**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

[maxhyde]

The Gordon/Blackmon side is the easy winner.

joking?

I was not joking at all. I think the 1.3 is the safe play and popular on this MB. But setting aside the issue of the compositions of the rosters of the respective traders, in a league with large rosters and taxi squads and therefore a diluted FA pool, the importance of picking up multiple good players cannot be understated. Yes, the 1.3 is more valuable than the combined worth of the 10th and 24th picks, but if either Blackmon (I think this is unlikely) or Gordon (a little more likely, but no sure thing) "hit", the team which acquired the multiple assets wins going away. And hey, if those guys both end up in a cell somewhere together and never play again, the team which traded the 1.3 purchased a pretty cheap lottery ticket with the grand prize a monster dyno team. I guess it's a matter of risk tolerance. I would roll the dice in a calculated gamble.

I can totally see this angle.

I mean even if only one of those guys ever plays a single game or two again you may get a pretty solid asset in return

 

[pizzatyme]

Another deal in FFPC 12-team

Gave Vereen, 2.9, (2) 2016 1st rounders

Received 1.5

In this league, I expect the 1.5 to be WR2 to come off the board. Again, an overpay, but one I

was willing to make.

mostly an overpay because White/Cooper will not be there at 5, and neither with Gordon/Gurley

Are you a soothsayer?

Are you assuming your leaguemates will screw up?

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

 

[LBH]

Another deal in FFPC 12-team

Gave Vereen, 2.9, (2) 2016 1st rounders

Received 1.5

In this league, I expect the 1.5 to be WR2 to come off the board. Again, an overpay, but one I

was willing to make.

mostly an overpay because White/Cooper will not be there at 5, and neither with Gordon/Gurley

Are you a soothsayer?

Are you assuming your leaguemates will screw up?

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

 

[ghostguy123]

Another deal in FFPC 12-team

Gave Vereen, 2.9, (2) 2016 1st rounders

Received 1.5

In this league, I expect the 1.5 to be WR2 to come off the board. Again, an overpay, but one I

was willing to make.

mostly an overpay because White/Cooper will not be there at 5, and neither with Gordon/Gurley

Are you a soothsayer?

Are you assuming your leaguemates will screw up?

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

No, I am assuming they take the top 2 (by far) RBs and and top 2 WRs before taking a 3rd RB

 

[ghostguy123]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR FFPC

Lamar Miller

for

CJ Spiller

CHarles Johnson

pick 25 of rookie/free agent draft (if a rookie is picked here it is usually about the 15-20th rookie off the board)

 

[LBH]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

I wasn't saying I'd make that deal I'm disputing your claim that there is no way 1 of those 4 players you listed wouldn't be there at 5. Straw man much?

 

[jeaton6]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

Let's be honest it's not just a "chance". It's more likely than not one of those 4 will be there. Take a look at pre-draft rookie ADP from the past couple years and compare it to post draft on DLF and DFW. The top 5 players do not repeat ever and usually 2-3 players move in and out of the top 5. Landing spot matters.

 

[donnie baseball]

12 team PPR dynasty

Odell Beckham Jr

for

Carlos Hyde and 1.01

Working on a rebuild and really killed me at RB, but couldn't resist OBJ

 

[pizzatyme]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

I dealt the 2 1sts because I want an extra year of performance from a player I want to get at 1.5. Is it so hard for you to imagine that not everyone thinks like you or prints out DLF or whatever ADP you want to use and follow it religiously?

Like I said, I'm happy taking WR3 there for the cost of 2 FUTURE 1sts. If you disagree, that's okay.

You come off like you should start your own website and sell your advice.

 

[pizzatyme]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

Let's be honest it's not just a "chance". It's more likely than not one of those 4 will be there. Take a look at pre-draft rookie ADP from the past couple years and compare it to post draft on DLF and DFW. The top 5 players do not repeat ever and usually 2-3 players move in and out of the top 5. Landing spot matters.

No, if the top 4 on ADP don't go in the top 4 of every draft, then someone screwed up according to Ghost.

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR FFPC

Lamar Miller

for

CJ Spiller

CHarles Johnson

pick 25 of rookie/free agent draft (if a rookie is picked here it is usually about the 15-20th rookie off the board)

Spiller side

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR dynasty

Odell Beckham Jr

for

Carlos Hyde and 1.01

Working on a rebuild and really killed me at RB, but couldn't resist OBJ

OBJ

 

[ghostguy123]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

I wasn't saying I'd make that deal I'm disputing your claim that there is no way 1 of those 4 players you listed wouldn't be there at 5. Straw man much?

Ok, I would agree it isn't a "zero chance" scenario

It's unlikely. Way too unlikely to be dealing multiple 1sts and other pieces for that chance

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR dynasty

Odell Beckham Jr

for

Carlos Hyde and 1.01

Working on a rebuild and really killed me at RB, but couldn't resist OBJ

Good move

 

[ghostguy123]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

Let's be honest it's not just a "chance". It's more likely than not one of those 4 will be there. Take a look at pre-draft rookie ADP from the past couple years and compare it to post draft on DLF and DFW. The top 5 players do not repeat ever and usually 2-3 players move in and out of the top 5. Landing spot matters.

No, if the top 4 on ADP don't go in the top 4 of every draft, then someone screwed up according to Ghost.

I said both Gurley and Gordon will go in the top 4

Meaning you will not get the #2 WR off the board at 5

This is simple

 

[cstu]

pizzatyme, on 16 Apr 2015 - 08:04 AM, said:

Another deal in FFPC 12-team

Gave Vereen, 2.9, (2) 2016 1st rounders

Received 1.5

In this league, I expect the 1.5 to be WR2 to come off the board. Again, an overpay, but one I

was willing to make.

I like the trade if the 2016 1sts are late, but you're not getting Cooper or White at 1.5.

 

[ghostguy123]

I dealt the 2 1sts because I want an extra year of performance

Stopping you there, because you can trade a future 1st for a player that helps NOW near your trade deadline, and then have another 1st to work with, or to use in a trade for two 2017 1sts

Rinse repeat

 

[cstu]

I dealt the 2 1sts because I want an extra year of performance

Stopping you there, because you can trade a future 1st for a player that helps NOW near your trade deadline, and then have another 1st to work with, or to use in a trade for two 2017 1sts

Rinse repeat

The trade is fine, I don't like the reasoning.

 

[pizzatyme]

I dealt the 2 1sts because I want an extra year of performance

Stopping you there, because you can trade a future 1st for a player that helps NOW near your trade deadline, and then have another 1st to work with, or to use in a trade for two 2017 1sts

Rinse repeat

Not all leagues are created equal. This league is in its 2nd year and everyone still thinks they have the winning team. And trading a guy at the trade deadline this year is NOT NOW. It would be at the trade deadline.

 

[ghostguy123]

I dealt the 2 1sts because I want an extra year of performance

Stopping you there, because you can trade a future 1st for a player that helps NOW near your trade deadline, and then have another 1st to work with, or to use in a trade for two 2017 1sts

Rinse repeat

Not all leagues are created equal. This league is in its 2nd year and everyone still thinks they have the winning team. And trading a guy at the trade deadline this year is NOT NOW. It would be at the trade deadline.

now means "this year".

If you arent a contender at the deadline, then YOUR 2016 1st that you traded is going to be a very high pick.

If you are, then you make a deal.

 

[jeaton6]

Are you assuming they will all follow groupthink like sheep?

its definitely possible 1 of those 4 could be there at 5. What if the Cowboys take a RB that is not Gordon or Gurley in round 2? Somebody could easily bite on that in the top 4

So we are dealing multiple future 1sts at a CHANCE of this?

Let's be honest it's not just a "chance". It's more likely than not one of those 4 will be there. Take a look at pre-draft rookie ADP from the past couple years and compare it to post draft on DLF and DFW. The top 5 players do not repeat ever and usually 2-3 players move in and out of the top 5. Landing spot matters.

No, if the top 4 on ADP don't go in the top 4 of every draft, then someone screwed up according to Ghost.

I said both Gurley and Gordon will go in the top 4

Meaning you will not get the #2 WR off the board at 5

This is simple

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

 

[ghostguy123]

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

My first comment was about him getting the #2 WR off the board because his leaguemates need RBs.

He wont

 

[Hankmoody]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

 

[pizzatyme]

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

My first comment was about him getting the #2 WR off the board because his leaguemates need RBs.

He wont

In your mind, is it out of the realm of possibility that any 1 of the top 4 (let alone 4-4) land in less than ideal situations and guys like Parker, Ajayi, Yeldon, Coleman or Perriman do land in an ideal spot and go in the top 4?

 

[amicsta]

12 team PPR FFPC

Lamar Miller

for

CJ Spiller

CHarles Johnson

pick 25 of rookie/free agent draft (if a rookie is picked here it is usually about the 15-20th rookie off the board)

Ill take the Miller side here. Quietest RB1 out there right now.

 

[Run It Up]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Did he let him #### his wife?

 

[jeaton6]

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

My first comment was about him getting the #2 WR off the board because his leaguemates need RBs.

He wont

I don't think so:

mostly an overpay because White/Cooper will not be there at 5, and neither with Gordon/Gurley

 

[The_Head_Ape]

10 team QQRRWWWW

Team A got OBJ

Team B got 1.3, 1.5, 1.6

(Winston and Gurley likely 1-2)

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

this is why trade reversals need to be allowed.

league killer

 

[pizzatyme]

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

My first comment was about him getting the #2 WR off the board because his leaguemates need RBs.

He wont

I don't think so:

mostly an overpay because White/Cooper will not be there at 5, and neither with Gordon/Gurley

I guess we will see. I'll report back with the results.

 

[ghostguy123]

Your first statement was that Cooper/White won't be there.

My first comment was about him getting the #2 WR off the board because his leaguemates need RBs.

He wont

In your mind, is it out of the realm of possibility that any 1 of the top 4 (let alone 4-4) land in less than ideal situations and guys like Parker, Ajayi, Yeldon, Coleman or Perriman do land in an ideal spot and go in the top 4?

Is it possible you simply do not understand how huge of an impact having two 2016 1sts can be?

Let's put it this way, in my idiotic mind, it is more likely those are the top 4 picks than it is that they aren't the top 4 picks.

In my idiotic mind, it is also more likely your team would benefit my correctly using two 2016 1sts than pick 5 will both this year and in the future (and most certainly will more than pick 7 like the earlier deal)

 

[One More Rep]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Ouch

 

[jeaton6]

12 Team PPR

1.10, Knile Davis, Christine Michael

For

1.8, 2.9

 

[ghostguy123]

12 Team PPR

1.10, Knile Davis, Christine Michael

For

1.8, 2.9

10, Davis, and Michael for me rather easily

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Ouch

Ouch????

There needs to be a word that exhibits the sound you would hear if someone got their man parts slammed in a vice

 

[jeaton6]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Ouch

Ouch????

There needs to be a word that exhibits the sound you would hear if someone got their man parts slammed in a vice

Can we get a link to the league? I want to see the forthcoming upheaval in the chat.

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Ouch

Ouch????

There needs to be a word that exhibits the sound you would hear if someone got their man parts slammed in a vice

Can we get a link to the league? I want to see the forthcoming upheaval in the chat.

http://thumbnails.cbc.ca/maven_legacy/thumbnails/233/711/bc-riot-puri-130614.jpg

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ad127652659riot-police-shie.jpg

 

[jeaton6]

Some other recent ones in 12 team PPR

1.8 for Morris, Lafell, 3.2

Julius Thomas, 1.12 for Sanders, Knile Davis, 3.5

Forte, Carey, Fred Jackson for Michael, 1.9, 3.2, 3.4, 3.8

 

[Zyphros]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

That's a sig updater Ghost, easily.

 

[blardorg]

12 team PPR dynasty

Odell Beckham Jr

for

Carlos Hyde and 1.01

Working on a rebuild and really killed me at RB, but couldn't resist OBJ

OBJ easily.

12 Team PPR

1.10, Knile Davis, Christine Michael

For

1.8, 2.9

1.10, Knile, Christine easily.

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

That's a sig updater Ghost, easily.

might be, yup

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR (1.5 for TE) FFPC

Jimmy Gramam

2016 1st (team went 13-0 last year)

for

Greg Olsen

1.06

 

[blardorg]

12 team PPR (1.5 for TE) FFPC

Jimmy Gramam

2016 1st (team went 13-0 last year)

for

Greg Olsen

1.06

Graham

 

[Madden Curse]

12 Team PPR

1.10, Knile Davis, Christine Michael

For

1.8, 2.9

1.10, Knile, Christine easily.

Agreed, there has got to be some very important missing context. I don't know why you'd unload two of the most valuable handcuffs in fantasy football to move up from 1.10 to 1.8. (And I don't see pick 2.9 having serious relevance.) Even with a short bench those are guys you'd want to keep. Salary cap concerns seem unlikely. What in the world happened?

 

[Danish Bengal]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Collusion. 100%

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Collusion. 100%

might make sense if those were start up picks

 

[FUBAR]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Collusion. 100%

the rare trade where they both should be kicked out from the league even if you couldn't prove collusion.

Unless MAYBE this is salary cap and somehow Evans/Bell have contracts even higher than they're worth.

 

[ghostguy123]

I didn't think these trades actually happened, but now I've seen it with my own two eyes

Desean, 1.10, 2.05, 2.06, 3.01

for

Mike Evans, Le'veon Bell

Collusion. 100%

the rare trade where they both should be kicked out from the league even if you couldn't prove collusion.

Unless MAYBE this is salary cap and somehow Evans/Bell have contracts even higher than they're worth.

That would be some weird salary cap where a 2nd and 3rd year player skyrocket themselves out of being worth having.

Some day, some league will hold an actual live meeting for something like this, and post the video for all to see.

It's a rarity these days that all league members can schedule to all be in the same place at the same time, or even live close enough to each other to make it happen, but this would be pay per view worthy.

 

[Footdude]

At this point I'd take OBJ.

12 team PPR dynasty

Odell Beckham Jr

for

Carlos Hyde and 1.01

Working on a rebuild and really killed me at RB, but couldn't resist OBJ