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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Good analysis. Few things though. I never said it wasn't a fair trade. I said that I thought the guy was overrating spiller in the context of it being an overpay for Watkins. I think it's pretty a close trade but I just happen to prefer the Watkins side. Watkins was banged up the entire year. He toughed through broken ribs, a groin and a hip injury that eventually led to surgery. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that these injuries limited him and he just missed 70/1000. His stats were very much comparable to Evans (outside of the TDs). He goes from being the only threat to one of several which should open things up for him. You see McCoy and Harvin as a negative but I see them as a positive. Woods is a non-factor IMO. The QB situation is unsettling but he should see increased targets (if healthy) and catch rate. The thing most concerning to me above all was his consistency on the injury report.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Nothing beats this though. Back in january team A traded his 2016 1st for Justin Blackmon.
A few days ago team A traded Blackmon for a 6th rounder.
At least the guy who traded Cooks away allowed something to actually happen before doing something silly, but this one takes the cake.
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LBH
Footballguy
Evans easily
LBH
Footballguy
1.01
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Mike Evans for the 1.01 which will be Gurley. Non ppr league.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
12 tm, 0.5 ppr, short benches, yardage and big play bonuses, one of the WR is a WR/TE so you can start 2 TE
Julius for Gio
Julius for Gio
Soulfly3
Footballguy
woof
evans is nearly untouchable to me. would take the farm for me to even think about it.
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Picks and not close for me.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Non PPR league changes the dynamics of this one though. It makes the RBs more valuable, however this also might increase Evans in the WR ranking just a tad because he is a better bet for yards and TDs than high volume catches.
That said, still Evans
ghostguy123
Footballguy
This
Crabtree is negative value to me taking up a roster spot, and Vereen just isn't a guy I would target at all.
LBH
Footballguy
Picks
LBH
Footballguy
Evans
LBH
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Top 5 not crazy at all because once you get past the first couple there is a lot of question marks and age.
#1 like some are discussing? That's crazy.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I think the flash of potential last year, combined with the potential to be a bellcow is enticing to fantasy owners. Helu shouldnt eat into his carries really.
But the constant 'interest' in big time FA backs is worrisome to me as a murray owner.
I feel if he wins the opportunity to be the guy in camp, he will prove his worth.
Pwingles
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
Thats like, your opinion, man
I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this year
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
Team A gets Golden Tate, Martellus Benenett
Team B gets Martavius Bryant, Richard Rodgers and pick 1.10
Team B gets Martavius Bryant, Richard Rodgers and pick 1.10
Pwingles
Footballguy
Thats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?
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fruity pebbles
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I see the argument for Gurley, and yes, I agree that Gordon as a top-5 dynasty RB is a stretch. My personal top-5 would be Bell, Lacy, McCoy, Charles, and Murray in some order.
Re: Anderson, his value is purely situational. Putting him in the top-5 is really, really bad. As you said, though, that's just an opinion. Maybe Anderson is the next great RB talent and Denver coaches are the real idiots for not playing him until everyone else was hurt.
I guess if Gurley is just a random RB prospect in a relatively unknown situation that is accurate. If that is the conclusion you have come to watching him I wouldn't argue with you about it. Definitely a legit stance in today's NFL/fantasy considering the overall devaluation of the position and difficulty finding reliable 3 down RB's
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Benjamin
rg3
for
moncrief
tannehill
No, I didn't mean to post this in the worst trade you've been offered thread
rg3
for
moncrief
tannehill
No, I didn't mean to post this in the worst trade you've been offered thread
Hoot McGoot
Footballguy
Some trades I did over the weekend in one league.
Watkins, 2.05 for Evans, 3.10
LMurray for Sankey, 2.10
Kelvin, RG3 for Moncrief, Tannehill
AKA
Watkins, KB, LMurray, RG3, 2.05 for Evans, Moncrief, Sankey, Tannehill, 2.10, 3.10
Watkins, 2.05 for Evans, 3.10
LMurray for Sankey, 2.10
Kelvin, RG3 for Moncrief, Tannehill
AKA
Watkins, KB, LMurray, RG3, 2.05 for Evans, Moncrief, Sankey, Tannehill, 2.10, 3.10
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Footballguy
Light for Benjamin but I am not super high on him. I would have asked for more if I had Benjamin but I am okay with the return
Pwingles
Footballguy
Well, its possible theyre idiots. Or its possible something just clicked with him as he got reps and started to 'get it'. Its also possible he was a product of a very scary offensive unit. At any rate, what he accomplished in the timeframe he accomplished it in is pretty solid.
He is 24, has 186 career carries and will likely be given every opportunity to win the lions share of the touches in camp/pre season.
The way i am looking at it is this, low miles, top end offense around him. If peytons decline is as severe as people think, it may get tougher, but he will likely get more reps out of the deal, so either way i like his situation and i think he couldve been added to the discussion is all.
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