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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

12 team non PPR

Gave Charles Johnson

Received likely top 6 2016 1st round pick

Other guy claims that the 2016 draft class is garbage. I honestly have no idea, but it seemed like pretty good value to me.

 
A couple of in draft trades last night:

Team A Gave:

Allen Robinson

2016 2nd (likely mid to late)

Team B Gave:

Jordan Matthews

Team C Gave:

Todd Gurley

Team D Gave:

Melvin Gordon

 
Traded Adrian Peterson for Jeremy Hill and 1.02 pick (Gurley)
How the hell did you manage that?
He didn't. Has to be fishing obviously
Totally legit. Guess the other owner is going all in for this year or something.
Maybe if he is leaving the league after this year, but otherwise that is crazy.
Still would be a bad move.

Pick 2 on its own would get a nice win now player

 
Pretty standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Allen Robinson

Got:
WR Kevin White

 
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12-team, start 1/2/3/1/flex. PPR + huge TE premium.

Team A received: Odell Beckham, 1.10

Team B received: Julio Jones, Jordan Reed, 1.06

 
Another one from a standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Dez Bryant

TE Vernon Davis

Got:

WR Sammy Watkins

TE Jordan Cameron

RB David Cobb

Bit of a gamble to give up Dez, but my team is trash in this league and has very little chance of contending. With that in mind, the 4+ year age gap between two guys who (IMO) seem to have pretty similar talent levels was appealing. I've had Dez in this league since before his rookie year, when I gave up Randy Moss and Dwayne Bowe to get him. Not expecting an imminent decline, but his value has peaked.

I like Cameron quite a bit if he can stay healthy and Cobb is an intriguing throw-in.

BTW I had earlier offered Dez + a 2nd round pick for Abdullah + a late 2016 1st + a late 2017 1st (team is stacked) and was denied.

 
FFPC 12-team TE Premium

Gave Mathews and 2 mid to late 1sts

Got Julio

My team is a top 2 or 3 with Julio. I love Mathews, but needed a true #1 IMHO.

As a side note, I acquired Mathews and Ingram for Cooper after the draft. So, this effectively means I traded Cooper and 2 1sts for Julio and Ingram.

 
Pretty standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Allen Robinson

Got:

WR Kevin White
Love the White side here.

Another one from a standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Dez Bryant

TE Vernon Davis

Got:

WR Sammy Watkins

TE Jordan Cameron

RB David Cobb

Bit of a gamble to give up Dez, but my team is trash in this league and has very little chance of contending. With that in mind, the 4+ year age gap between two guys who (IMO) seem to have pretty similar talent levels was appealing. I've had Dez in this league since before his rookie year, when I gave up Randy Moss and Dwayne Bowe to get him. Not expecting an imminent decline, but his value has peaked.

I like Cameron quite a bit if he can stay healthy and Cobb is an intriguing throw-in.

BTW I had earlier offered Dez + a 2nd round pick for Abdullah + a late 2016 1st + a late 2017 1st (team is stacked) and was denied.
Not a fan of giving up Dez for what is seemingly 3 pretty big question marks. I would want some type of security in at least 1 of those players.

 
12 team PPR Dynasty

Traded:

Eli Manning

Arian Foster

2016 2nd rounder

Received:

Ryan Tannehill

Bishop Sankey

Starting QB's after trade

Tannehill

Brady

P.Manning

So looking to the future (and I all in on Tannehill taking the next step and I own Jarvis Landry on this squad for the 10 point TD hook up) at both Qb and to a much lesser degree RB as I thought Sankey was worth a future 2nd rounder to give him a shot.

Foster getting hurt was big. I just don't want to deal with his injuries anymore. May prove to be a big mistake later in the year....but I want to watch Tanny on a team I own.

 
Pretty big trade happened last night in one of my dynasty leagues. I think I favor the side getting ODB/Lacy but Luck in a start 2 QB league is pretty valuable.

10 team ppr start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3wr, 1 te, 1 super flex, IDP

Team A traded:

Andrew Luck

Randall Cobb

Alfred Morris

Team B traded:

Russell Wilson

Eddie Lacy

Odell Beckham

 
A couple of in draft trades last night:

Team A Gave:

Allen Robinson

2016 2nd (likely mid to late)

Team B Gave:

Jordan Matthews

Team C Gave:

Todd Gurley

Team D Gave:

Melvin Gordon
Arob/2nd

Gurley

Pretty standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Allen Robinson

Got:

WR Kevin White
White.

12-team, start 1/2/3/1/flex. PPR + huge TE premium.

Team A received: Odell Beckham, 1.10

Team B received: Julio Jones, Jordan Reed, 1.06
Julio by Jordan Reed/1.06 and maybe a 2nd

Another one from a standard PPR league.

Gave:

WR Dez Bryant

TE Vernon Davis

Got:

WR Sammy Watkins

TE Jordan Cameron

RB David Cobb

Bit of a gamble to give up Dez, but my team is trash in this league and has very little chance of contending. With that in mind, the 4+ year age gap between two guys who (IMO) seem to have pretty similar talent levels was appealing. I've had Dez in this league since before his rookie year, when I gave up Randy Moss and Dwayne Bowe to get him. Not expecting an imminent decline, but his value has peaked.

I like Cameron quite a bit if he can stay healthy and Cobb is an intriguing throw-in.

BTW I had earlier offered Dez + a 2nd round pick for Abdullah + a late 2016 1st + a late 2017 1st (team is stacked) and was denied.
Dez. No way I deal him for that group. I like Watkins but way too much uncertainty other than that

FFPC 12-team TE Premium

Gave Mathews and 2 mid to late 1sts

Got Julio

My team is a top 2 or 3 with Julio. I love Mathews, but needed a true #1 IMHO.

As a side note, I acquired Mathews and Ingram for Cooper after the draft. So, this effectively means I traded Cooper and 2 1sts for Julio and Ingram.
Julio by quite a solid margin but I am lower on Matthews than most

A traded Chris Ivory

B traded Charles Sims as a 2nd round rookie in 2016 (likely early, as in #11-15 range).
The pick is the best piece imo so i will take that.

12 team PPR Dynasty

Traded:

Eli Manning

Arian Foster

2016 2nd rounder

Received:

Ryan Tannehill

Bishop Sankey

Starting QB's after trade

Tannehill

Brady

P.Manning

So looking to the future (and I all in on Tannehill taking the next step and I own Jarvis Landry on this squad for the 10 point TD hook up) at both Qb and to a much lesser degree RB as I thought Sankey was worth a future 2nd rounder to give him a shot.

Foster getting hurt was big. I just don't want to deal with his injuries anymore. May prove to be a big mistake later in the year....but I want to watch Tanny on a team I own.
I like Foster side but understand...

Pretty big trade happened last night in one of my dynasty leagues. I think I favor the side getting ODB/Lacy but Luck in a start 2 QB league is pretty valuable.

10 team ppr start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3wr, 1 te, 1 super flex, IDP

Team A traded:

Andrew Luck

Randall Cobb

Alfred Morris

Team B traded:

Russell Wilson

Eddie Lacy

Odell Beckham
I like Wilson side.

 
12-team, start 1/2/3/1/flex. PPR + huge TE premium.

Team A received: Odell Beckham, 1.10

Team B received: Julio Jones, Jordan Reed, 1.06
Ridiculous overpay for odb. I'd rather have Julio straight up, and by a good amount.
I'm the guy getting Beckham. Definitely an overpay by market value, but I'm pretty happy with it. I knew the guy I wanted at 1.06 would still be there at 1.10, (he was). I already had Gronk and Eifert at TE, plus I owned Jordan Reed in every league and didn't really mind divesting myself of a little bit of that risk. Really, the biggest cost to me was the opportunity cost of what I could have gotten in a different "move down" trade from 1.06, provided I could have even found another buyer.

So it really just comes down to Beckham vs. Julio. Originally this offseason, I preferred Julio, who I ranked as my #1 dynasty WR. But as I'm drilling more and more into the numbers, I changed my mind. Projections for Julio and Beckham are essentially exactly the same this year, fantasy-wise. Julio is nearly four years older than Beckham and not even projected to outscore him this year. That's a *TON* of upside on the Beckham side. Beckham's got a shorter track record, but Julio has his two foot surgeries. Beckham's the riskier of the two, but the potential payoff if he's really as good as he looks is 50% greater than Julio's. If you look at the top 30 fantasy receivers through age 26 of the last 30 years, (a group Julio is part of), then on average they had used up about 45% of their career fantasy value by that point. If you drop Jerry Rice out of the sample, then that jumps to about 55%. Julio's productive fantasy career might well already be half over, while Beckham's is just beginning. And, like I said, Beckham is expected to be just as productive as Julio on the short term, to boot.

So, again, coming from someone who opened the offseason with Julio as his #1 dynasty WR, I get that it's an overpay according to market value. I think it's a solid win for me in terms of actual expected value, though. And the fact that I already owned 3 Julio shares and 0 Beckham shares was just a nice bonus on top of that.

 
12-team, start 1/2/3/1/flex. PPR + huge TE premium.

Team A received: Odell Beckham, 1.10

Team B received: Julio Jones, Jordan Reed, 1.06
Ridiculous overpay for odb. I'd rather have Julio straight up, and by a good amount.
I'm the guy getting Beckham. Definitely an overpay by market value, but I'm pretty happy with it. I knew the guy I wanted at 1.06 would still be there at 1.10, (he was). I already had Gronk and Eifert at TE, plus I owned Jordan Reed in every league and didn't really mind divesting myself of a little bit of that risk. Really, the biggest cost to me was the opportunity cost of what I could have gotten in a different "move down" trade from 1.06, provided I could have even found another buyer.

So it really just comes down to Beckham vs. Julio. Originally this offseason, I preferred Julio, who I ranked as my #1 dynasty WR. But as I'm drilling more and more into the numbers, I changed my mind. Projections for Julio and Beckham are essentially exactly the same this year, fantasy-wise. Julio is nearly four years older than Beckham and not even projected to outscore him this year. That's a *TON* of upside on the Beckham side. Beckham's got a shorter track record, but Julio has his two foot surgeries. Beckham's the riskier of the two, but the potential payoff if he's really as good as he looks is 50% greater than Julio's. If you look at the top 30 fantasy receivers through age 26 of the last 30 years, (a group Julio is part of), then on average they had used up about 45% of their career fantasy value by that point. If you drop Jerry Rice out of the sample, then that jumps to about 55%. Julio's productive fantasy career might well already be half over, while Beckham's is just beginning. And, like I said, Beckham is expected to be just as productive as Julio on the short term, to boot.

So, again, coming from someone who opened the offseason with Julio as his #1 dynasty WR, I get that it's an overpay according to market value. I think it's a solid win for me in terms of actual expected value, though. And the fact that I already owned 3 Julio shares and 0 Beckham shares was just a nice bonus on top of that.
I can understand the reasoning.

However I am not sure I would expect to pay more than that for Beckam anytime over the next year(s)? Given that and the potential for the NYG offense to regress as a whole, I mean it is Eli after all, and drag Beckam down aside from any injury/individual regression. I think you might have been prudent to wait at least and ensure Beckam was going to start and stay elite before paying like he was.

 
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.

 
12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1

I gave: Oliver + Reed

I get: Ertz

Oliver was going to be cut from my roster next week. Looking to target a high upside backup for my team at TE.

 
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.
I think you did pretty well. Hopkins and Julio are the best players imo

 
A few Devy league trades from a rebuilding team:

Gave: Matt Forte

Received: 2016 1st and 2016 1st rd Devy pick

Gave: Andre Ellington

Received: 2016 1st and 2016 1st rd Devy pick

Gave: Julio Jones

Received: Devin Funchess, Laquon Treadwell (Ole Miss WR), and Tyler Boyd (Pitt WR)

 
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.
I think you did pretty well. Hopkins and Julio are the best players imo
I'm pretty sure it was Adam H who did the study and showed that there wasn't any player worth 4 random firsts.

I think I take Mathews/Wright and the picks here.

 
Pretty big trade happened last night in one of my dynasty leagues. I think I favor the side getting ODB/Lacy but Luck in a start 2 QB league is pretty valuable.

10 team ppr start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3wr, 1 te, 1 super flex, IDP

Team A traded:

Andrew Luck

Randall Cobb

Alfred Morris

Team B traded:

Russell Wilson

Eddie Lacy

Odell Beckham
  1. Luck side for me in start 2 QB
I like Luck a ton in this league, but you're getting a top 5 rb and top 5 wr in return. And Wilson is no slouch.

But relatively even considering the names and values involved I thought.

 
A few Devy league trades from a rebuilding team:

Gave: Matt Forte

Received: 2016 1st and 2016 1st rd Devy pick

Gave: Andre Ellington

Received: 2016 1st and 2016 1st rd Devy pick

Gave: Julio Jones

Received: Devin Funchess, Laquon Treadwell (Ole Miss WR), and Tyler Boyd (Pitt WR)
I like the first 2 deals for you

 
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.
I think you did pretty well. Hopkins and Julio are the best players imo
Who rebuilds by trading away hopkins??

 
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.
I think you did pretty well. Hopkins and Julio are the best players imo
I'm pretty sure it was Adam H who did the study and showed that there wasn't any player worth 4 random firsts.

I think I take Mathews/Wright and the picks here.
Did he mention anything about TWO players?

 
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/K/DT 1PPR

Swung all these during live draft yesterday

Gave: ARod,McCoy

Received Cam, Watkins and 1.1

Then gave same team: 1.1, Fitzgerald and Crowell

Received: Evans, Mccoy

Later gave: Mccoy and Foles

Received: Russ Wilson/Gore

Gave: Roddy White

Received: Spiller

Gutted out a lot of fodder, but ended w WR stable of: Jeffrey, Evans, Watkins, Jordy, Matthews, etc. Losing Rogers hurts

 
A couple of deals that went down around rookie draft time in two leagues with the same scoring/format (12 team QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/Flex/TE .5 PPR)

Team A gives a 2016 1st (should be late), Team B (rebuilding) gives Arian Foster, Peyton Manning and Percy Harvin

Team B gives Torrey Smith, Team C gives the 2.01 rookie pick (became Tevin Coleman)

Team D gives the 1.09 (became Perriman) for Team E's 2016 1st round pick (should be mid-round but big potential variance)

 
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Steel Curtainrod said:
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/K/DT 1PPR

Swung all these during live draft yesterday

Gave: ARod,McCoy

Received Cam, Watkins and 1.1

Then gave same team: 1.1, Fitzgerald and Crowell

Received: Evans, Mccoy

Later gave: Mccoy and Foles

Received: Russ Wilson/Gore

Gave: Roddy White

Received: Spiller

Gutted out a lot of fodder, but ended w WR stable of: Jeffrey, Evans, Watkins, Jordy, Matthews, etc. Losing Rogers hurts
I like what you ended up with

 
ghostguy123 said:
To follow up on my previous trade of getting Julio for Mathews and 2 1sts, Same owner,obviously trying to rebuild just did this deal with me.

He gave: Hopkins

I gave: Wright, Bowe, and 2 1sts (top 4 pick and bottom 4 pick)

So, effectively, I gave up J. Mathews, K. Wright, Bowe, and 4 1sts for Julio and Hopkins.
I think you did pretty well. Hopkins and Julio are the best players imo
Who rebuilds by trading away hopkins??
Bowe is just too damn tempting for a rebuilding team to pass up.

In all seriousness while I agree in concept getting two firsts (with one potentially being top 4) and Kendall Wright, who has some upside with Mariota isn't a terrible return.

 
12 team PPR.

Gave: David Johnson

Got: Alfred Morris

Don't feel great about it but desperately needed someone to plug into my lineup.

 
12 team PPR.

Gave: David Johnson

Got: Alfred Morris

Don't feel great about it but desperately needed someone to plug into my lineup.
Not involved.......

Charles Sims

2016 2nd Rounder

for

David Johnson
I like David Johnson in both deals.

I can understand not having a starter and sacrificing a player you like for a starter even if it is short term. Tough deals to make but gotta be done sometimes

 
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Matthews and Hopkins are a push.

You gave Kendall wright and four firsts for Julio.

I love Julio but that's too much imo
I wouldn't consider Matthews and Hopkins a push. In fact, Hopkins might be as close to Julio as Matthews is to Hopkins for me.

I'm pretty sure it was Adam H who did the study and showed that there wasn't any player worth 4 random firsts.

I think I take Mathews/Wright and the picks here.
I did, although as I said, I view Hopkins as a not-trivial get in his own right. If you break that down more as Matthews/1st for Hopkins and Wright/3 1sts for Julio, it looks a bit closer.

I think I'd still take the four random firsts, but I don't hate the Julio/Hopkins side.

 
10-team league, start 1/2/3/1, no flex, no-PPR, QB-heavy scoring

Team A received: Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, Drew Brees, 2016 1st (juggernaut team, so likely very late)

Team B received: Andrew Luck, DeAndre Hopkins

 

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