*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (2 Viewers)

[Insein]

There's no way Chip is fired. But I guess we'll see what kind of character he has by whether he stays or not. It's all in his hands.

 

[JuniorNB]

Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.

I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.

Yes my track record shows me as anti Eagles.

You make post after post when they lose. Hardly a word when they win. Unless you're pointing out something they should have done better. I guess you're an eaglesfan. I'll take your word for it. But I think you're a lot happier and looking forward to posting this week than most of us.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Somewhere Santa is laughing. Chip Kelly to LSU.

Thanks for checking in.

 

[Insein]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

 

[Insein]

Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.

I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.

Yes my track record shows me as anti Eagles.

You make post after post when they lose. Hardly a word when they win. Unless you're pointing out something they should have done better. I guess you're an eaglesfan. I'll take your word for it. But I think you're a lot happier and looking forward to posting this week than most of us.

Yea then you don't know me at all. Try paying attention to this thread or even the game threads. Go back to 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010. Read my posts and tell me I'm happy when we lose.

That was a worse insult than telling me to kill myself. Saying I'm happy when we lose. Wtf!?

 

[Deamon]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

 

[JuniorNB]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I don't think there's any reason to think that Detroit, buffalo, wash, and nyg are not winnable. Though I'm certainly not confident about anything right now.

 

[GoBirds]

It makes no sense for Chip to be gone. I'm extremely unhappy with him but it would be completely foolish to make a change now.

But...where are we and where are we going? I can't ever remember feeling this bleak. With Andy's end coming we at at least had the dream of change. But what now?

Chip isn't going anywhere. He overachieved early and it's not realistic that he can't have a down year or 2 after taking over a 4 win team. While this is year 3 it's his 1st w control. It's impossible to get the personnel he needs in 1 off season and it could be overwhelming taking over as GM as well as coach. I think both coordinators need to go as a start. He brought them on in his 1st year in the NFL and now that he is acclimated he needs to find guys that compliment his skills better. Especially on defense Davis is a joke, was a Cleveland cast off before I believe? There are better options out there. Then I think you stick with Sam and take a chance on a 2nd QB in FA or draft in the 3rd/4th or both. Have to go OL in the 1st.

 

[Mighty Mice]

I don't think there's any reason to think that Detroit, buffalo, wash, and nyg are not winnable. Though I'm certainly not confident about anything right now.

On paper, sure. Those 4 are winnable and put the Eagles at 8-8. That's the best case scenario. Given the complete debacle that the last 7Qs of football have (for the most part) been, I don't think that this team is mentally ready to play on the road and win in 3 1/2 days. They looked dysfunctional and lost out there for most of today's game. Detroit's defense has been pretty good the last two weeks, and Calvin and Tate will shred this secondary if the scheme and effort in place resembles anything like today's scheme and effort.

 

[Insein]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

 

[modogg]

this thread might be worse than today's game (at times). i love how we still have discussions about Bradford, team has a few issues not just a QB. Comparing Sanchez to Bradford is like asking if i want to be kicked in the nuts or punched in the face.

 

[Deamon]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that Bradford could lead us to a win vs The Giants. Nor a stretch to say that despite all the bad you want to say about him, that he gives us a better chance to win then Sanchez. Even you've admitted that, and I think all Junior is saying is that he thinks we can beat the Giants with Bradford.... like we did a few weeks ago.

 

[Billy Bats]

What in the holy hell is Brady going to do in two weeks?

 

[JuniorNB]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

You don't think he's our best option at qb?

 

[Insein]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that Bradford could lead us to a win vs The Giants. Nor a stretch to say that despite all the bad you want to say about him, that he gives us a better chance to win then Sanchez. Even you've admitted that, and I think all Junior is saying is that he thinks we can beat the Giants with Bradford.... like we did a few weeks ago.

I'll admit he's better than Sanchez talent wise (no stretch there and I believed that before the season and now) but like I said in the game thread, the best the offense looked all year was on that first drive today (technically second thanks to the fumble). You can't deny that either. This offense is SLOW with Bradford. So a lot of good being better than Sanchez does him.

 

[Insein]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

You don't think he's our best option at qb?

I do. That's why I don't see us beating the Giants in NY.

Do you think that game will have meaning to us by then?

 

[JuniorNB]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

You don't think he's our best option at qb?

I do. That's why I don't see us beating the Giants in NY. Do you think that game will have meaning to us by then?

Probably not. Doubt we beat the Lions with Sanchez.

 

[need2know]

Nope. Season is over.

 

[Insein]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

You don't think he's our best option at qb?

I do. That's why I don't see us beating the Giants in NY. Do you think that game will have meaning to us by then?

Probably not. Doubt we beat the Lions with Sanchez.

I agree. I like that you keep saying Sanchez like I believe in him. I have LESS faith in him than Bradford.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Who wins first, the Eagles, Flyers or Sixers and do any of them win in November?

 

[JuniorNB]

Realistically, we only have 3 truly winnable games left. Det, Buff and Wash and I have no faith in any.

You don't think we can beat the Giants?

With bradford, yes

Really? Still hanging on to that gem?

You don't think he's our best option at qb?

I do. That's why I don't see us beating the Giants in NY. Do you think that game will have meaning to us by then?

Probably not. Doubt we beat the Lions with Sanchez.

I agree. I like that you keep saying Sanchez like I believe in him. I have LESS faith in him than Bradford.

I wasn't even talking to you. Someone else asked if we'd beat the Giants. I said if Bradford is QB. Then you jumped in and asked if I'm still supporting him. We have three quarterbacks. We can't pick Brady as starter. Out of the guys we can possibly start, bradford is the best. Which is all I'm saying. So you chose to argue then say you agree. You should stop drinking or whatever you're doing.

 

[Insein]

Who wins first, the Eagles, Flyers or Sixers and do any of them win in November?

Quite the challenge.Sixers have Twolves, Celtics, Rockets and Grizz.

Flyers have Canes, Islanders, Preds and Rangers.

Eagles have the Lions.

Flyers last win was against the Canes. Maybe them?

 

[Insein]

Wasn't talking to me but responds directly to what I posted. Hmm

 

[JuniorNB]

Wasn't talking to me but responds directly to what I posted. Hmm

You're having a rough day. Daemon asked a question. I answered it. Not sure where I suggested you were some big Sanchez supporter. I said that one time last week. Certainly not since. You're paranoid that people are talking about you.

 

[Insein]

Wasn't talking to me but responds directly to what I posted. Hmm

You're having a rough day. Daemon asked a question. I answered it. Not sure where I suggested you were some big Sanchez supporter. I said that one time last week. Certainly not since. You're paranoid that people are talking about you.

Next time you respond to Deamon, may want to click reply on his post. You got issues man.

 

[JuniorNB]

Wasn't talking to me but responds directly to what I posted. Hmm

You're having a rough day. Daemon asked a question. I answered it. Not sure where I suggested you were some big Sanchez supporter. I said that one time last week. Certainly not since. You're paranoid that people are talking about you.

Next time you respond to Deamon, may want to click reply on his post. You got issues man.

lol Dude. You're losing what's left of your limited mind. Scroll up. My response of " With Bradford, yes" was to Daemon asking if we could beat the Giants. He responded to you, not me. I answered his question. Admit it, you're wrong. It'll be less embarrassing that way.

 

[Insein]

Yes I was wrong and completely misunderstood that you posting two times in direct reply to my quotes was meant for Deamon.

Do you have a thread somewhere for Juniors board tips so we know how to follow you?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I'm only shocked we got shelled. I didn't think our D was that bad but we were severely out coached today. Billy Davis got his ### handed to him

Demeco Ryans is done. He just can't move.

We just can't consider any game left as winnable. Gets me thinking, I believe we have been favored in every loss this season. Has Vegas ever been this wrong?

The play calling is just so bad and seems so predictable.

It really doesn't matter what qb we have. Our WR's and TE's are just so bad. I know I've said it before but they really are bad. Riley Cooper gets his first catch in what, 5 games? Unreal that he is out there game after game.

Can we please never discuss Sanchez again? Please!

Brandon Graham, what is it that you do exactly?

It just feels like a really high draft pick is on the horizon. Give Bradford a team friendly 2-year deal and draft a guy.

 

[JuniorNB]

Yes I was wrong and completely misunderstood that you posting two times in direct reply to my quotes was meant for Deamon.

Do you have a thread somewhere for Juniors board tips so we know how to follow you?

lol. It's OK buddy. At least you finally realize you were wrong and my comment about Bradford was to Daemon. You should go to bed and try again tomorrow.

 

[JuniorNB]

I'm only shocked we got shelled. I didn't think our D was that bad but we were severely out coached today. Billy Davis got his ### handed to him

Demeco Ryans is done. He just can't move.

We just can't consider any game left as winnable. Gets me thinking, I believe we have been favored in every loss this season. Has Vegas ever been this wrong?

The play calling is just so bad and seems so predictable.

It really doesn't matter what qb we have. Our WR's and TE's are just so bad. I know I've said it before but they really are bad. Riley Cooper gets his first catch in what, 5 games? Unreal that he is out there game after game.

Can we please never discuss Sanchez again? Please!

Brandon Graham, what is it that you do exactly?

It just feels like a really high draft pick is on the horizon. Give Bradford a team friendly 2-year deal and draft a guy.

other than the Dallas game in week two, this was the first time there was absolutely no positive to take away. Im with you, it wouldn't shock me if we lost out.

 

[thayman]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

 

[GoBirds]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

It's not easy adjusting to the suffering you guys are used to but some of the girls in this thread sound like 8 year old cry babies.

There actually used to be good info in these threads, DH is greatly missed.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

See my post about Sports Induced Blue Balls (SIBB). Were losing our minds here. I don't think fans outside of here have any idea how badly we want the big one and as a collective, we had more optimism going into this season than since '04 and possibly even greater than '04. We are like a band of survivors stranded on a desert island and all losing our minds in different ways. Anger, shell shock, confusion, disorientation, false hope....you name it--we are feeling it...

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

It's not easy adjusting to the suffering you guys are used to but some of the girls in this thread sound like 8 year old cry babies.

There actually used to be good info in these threads, DH is greatly missed.

Yep.

 

[need2know]

We seem to have alot of players that should be FA. Austin and cooper for sure

 

[metoo]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

 

[JuniorNB]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Feel free to find one person who thought Bradford meant we'd win it all.

 

[thayman]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

See my post about Sports Induced Blue Balls (SPBB). Were losing our minds here. I don't think fans outside of here have any idea how badly we want the big one and as a collective, we had more optimism going into this season than since '04 and possibly even greater than '04. We are like a band of survivors stranded on a desert island and all losing our minds in different ways. Anger, shell shock, confusion, disorientation, false hope....you name it--we are feeling it...

Possibly, just odd to read, team threads don't normally go down this path of such vitriol and borderline hatred of each other.

 

[Mighty Mice]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Well, Jeff Lurie did watch him go 20-12 and after posting back-to-back 10 win seasons let him have player control. I think 'hasn't won anything' is valid, but I can understand Lurie's decision heading into year 3.

So far doesn't look good though.

Re: Bradford, who else was an option? Not many good QB's here, and the staff didn't think they could win with Vick/Foles/Barkley/Sanchez, at least to any significant level. Add Sam to that list, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

Glad someone's having a great time though, always neat looking at a train wreck unless you're one of the people in the passenger car. Eagles fans have had more good years than bad in my lifetime, but these are the times that try men's souls...

 

[metoo]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Feel free to find one person who thought Bradford meant we'd win it all.

In the preseason a lot of Philly fans were drinking the Bradford and Skip kool-aid.

 

[Mighty Mice]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

See my post about Sports Induced Blue Balls (SPBB). Were losing our minds here. I don't think fans outside of here have any idea how badly we want the big one and as a collective, we had more optimism going into this season than since '04 and possibly even greater than '04.We are like a band of survivors stranded on a desert island and all losing our minds in different ways. Anger, shell shock, confusion, disorientation, false hope....you name it--we are feeling it...

Possibly, just odd to read, team threads don't normally go down this path of such vitriol and borderline hatred of each other.

It's not an 'Eagles' thing IMO. It's honestly a select few opinionated fans who (and God knows why) have fought the Foles v. Bradford QB debate like a proxy war in a small South Asian country.

Bradford v Foles has been like fighting over preferring syphilis to gonorrhea. IMO, the only 'right' decision the Eagles had was not paying the 2nd rounder for a slightly less loathsome disease.

 

[JuniorNB]

Personally, I was way more optimistic going into 2014 than I was this year. Coming off the playoff birth in Chip's first year and the terrific season Foles had, I was thinking that was the year. Going into this year, I had no idea what to expect. The roster changed so much that I just couldn't get a read on it. I will admit that I was suckered in by the team's performance in the week 3 preseason game against Green Bay. So maybe for a few weeks, I was foolishly thinking we could be a Super Bowl contender, but after the 2013 season, I went the entire offseason thinking Lombardi trophy.

 

[fatness]

Eagles fans are weird. No other team thread rambles for pages upon pages with posters having **** measuring contests on who's actually an "Official" fan.

It's not easy adjusting to the suffering you guys are used to but some of the girls in this thread sound like 8 year old cry babies.

There actually used to be good info in these threads, DH is greatly missed.

I agree. I used to like checking in to Eagles threads because there was so much football information there. I'm pretty sure the information's still there this year but it's sprinkled through pages of stupid fighting. Eagles fans have always known their stuff, more than fans of a lot of teams here.

It's tough when you go in to a season expecting your team to be good like the year before and they start crashing. Redskins fans went through it in 2013.

 

[Shutout]

I know we tend to overstate a thing or two around here but I am truly shocked that you Eagles fan are, by and large, packing it in and Calling it. You guys are, imo, some of the hardiest group of fans around and you guys never get down and out.

Good luck guys. The division and the conference are wide open. Anything can happen

 

[metoo]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Well, Jeff Lurie did watch him go 20-12 and after posting back-to-back 10 win seasons let him have player control. I think 'hasn't won anything' is valid, but I can understand Lurie's decision heading into year 3.

So far doesn't look good though.

Re: Bradford, who else was an option? Not many good QB's here, and the staff didn't think they could win with Vick/Foles/Barkley/Sanchez, at least to any significant level. Add Sam to that list, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

Glad someone's having a great time though, always neat looking at a train wreck unless you're one of the people in the passenger car. Eagles fans have had more good years than bad in my lifetime, but these are the times that try men's souls...

Why trade for a guy who doesn't fit your system? Same thing he did with Murray. Bradford hadn't shown anything with the Rams that would make you trade for him.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I know we tend to overstate a thing or two around here but I am truly shocked that you Eagles fan are, by and large, packing it in and Calling it. You guys are, imo, some of the hardiest group of fans around and you guys never get down and out.

Good luck guys. The division and the conference are wide open. Anything can happen

It may look that way but us taking the conference has probably less than a 1% chance. The team is just to flawed on offense.

 

[GoBirds]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Well, Jeff Lurie did watch him go 20-12 and after posting back-to-back 10 win seasons let him have player control. I think 'hasn't won anything' is valid, but I can understand Lurie's decision heading into year 3.So far doesn't look good though.

Re: Bradford, who else was an option? Not many good QB's here, and the staff didn't think they could win with Vick/Foles/Barkley/Sanchez, at least to any significant level. Add Sam to that list, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

Glad someone's having a great time though, always neat looking at a train wreck unless you're one of the people in the passenger car. Eagles fans have had more good years than bad in my lifetime, but these are the times that try men's souls...

Why trade for a guy who doesn't fit your system? Same thing he did with Murray. Bradford hadn't shown anything with the Rams that would make you trade for him.

In hindsight it's a bad trade based on losing the 2nd round pick. I think what he was going for is a Carson Palmer like situation after the Raiders. Get a guy cheap that has the pedigree and build around them. Could still work out similar to how Carson has but it will take more than half a year. At this rate Foles could be cut so getting him back could also be an option but he looks horrible.I don't mind the Murray deal as it buried the Cowboys, no way they went 0 and 6 with Murray.

 

[Insein]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Well, Jeff Lurie did watch him go 20-12 and after posting back-to-back 10 win seasons let him have player control. I think 'hasn't won anything' is valid, but I can understand Lurie's decision heading into year 3.So far doesn't look good though.

Re: Bradford, who else was an option? Not many good QB's here, and the staff didn't think they could win with Vick/Foles/Barkley/Sanchez, at least to any significant level. Add Sam to that list, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

Glad someone's having a great time though, always neat looking at a train wreck unless you're one of the people in the passenger car. Eagles fans have had more good years than bad in my lifetime, but these are the times that try men's souls...

Why trade for a guy who doesn't fit your system? Same thing he did with Murray. Bradford hadn't shown anything with the Rams that would make you trade for him.

What really sucks is that preseason false hope. We saw the offense clicking. Agholar looked studly. Then in season, we have to slow the offense way down for Bradford to even run it. Wasted trade. Wasn't worth the price or the risk.

 

[Mighty Mice]

I'm enjoying this thread. This is what happens when you give a guy who hasn't won anything in the NFL keys to the franchise. Philly fans thought they were going to win with Bradford. I'm loving it.

Well, Jeff Lurie did watch him go 20-12 and after posting back-to-back 10 win seasons let him have player control. I think 'hasn't won anything' is valid, but I can understand Lurie's decision heading into year 3.So far doesn't look good though.

Re: Bradford, who else was an option? Not many good QB's here, and the staff didn't think they could win with Vick/Foles/Barkley/Sanchez, at least to any significant level. Add Sam to that list, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

Glad someone's having a great time though, always neat looking at a train wreck unless you're one of the people in the passenger car. Eagles fans have had more good years than bad in my lifetime, but these are the times that try men's souls...

Why trade for a guy who doesn't fit your system? Same thing he did with Murray. Bradford hadn't shown anything with the Rams that would make you trade for him.

Yeah, I would love to hear Chips thought process behind the Bradford trade and the Murray signing. Not likely to happen.

For the latter, I think partially it had to do with Gore agreeing and then not signing, needing another RB, wanting to stick it to Dallas, the Bradford/Murray Oklahoma history and friendship (they were allegedly talking behind the scenes), and thinking he's smart enough to make it work.

For the former I agree. All we heard was "repetitive accuracy" but hasn't been the case for Sam in STL or PHI.