If it's Coleman, Treadwell, and Doctson, then I'd definitely take those three. If it's one of those plus Shepherd/Thomas, then I'd still probably take those guys (assuming by "bottom half" you mean 1.07-1.12).
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***Official*** 2016 Dynasty Value Assessment Thread (1 Viewer)
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Pwingles
Footballguy
sorry no, i worded it poorly, bottom meaning 1-6, which most people call the top lol
basically I have the 3,4,6
zeke will be 1, no clue on no2, and i am confident the number 5 spot is taking someone i havent listed
i could likely trade the 4, and 6 for a couple picks this year and a random first to a couple specific guys who have bad teams, so my options are above, just not sure if i should stand pat and take 3 good wr, or take one good wr and try and get a possibly decent pick next year. My picks next year project to be late, so my best shot is accumulating as many as i can now. Waiting til my picks are OTC is prolly the best option, but no matter how i do it, the outcomes will likely be close to the original question
basically I have the 3,4,6
zeke will be 1, no clue on no2, and i am confident the number 5 spot is taking someone i havent listed
i could likely trade the 4, and 6 for a couple picks this year and a random first to a couple specific guys who have bad teams, so my options are above, just not sure if i should stand pat and take 3 good wr, or take one good wr and try and get a possibly decent pick next year. My picks next year project to be late, so my best shot is accumulating as many as i can now. Waiting til my picks are OTC is prolly the best option, but no matter how i do it, the outcomes will likely be close to the original question
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Curious Yeldon's value - I was thinking about offering McCoy for Yeldon and 1.7 - I might be able to get it done.
FBG's seems high on Yeldon even after the Ivory add.
FBG's seems high on Yeldon even after the Ivory add.
jeaton6
Footballguy
I think Yeldons value is no later than 1.5 this year. McCoys value is WAY down. That would be a lowball offer to me. If you can pull it off kudos. There are some who may be seeking the production this year and willing to part with Yeldon relatively cheap but would be surprised if you could get the higher values player along with a pick.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
To be fair, I don't own Edelman, but if I did I'd be a little concerned. My point was that I think he is not going to be producing at an elite level anymore. Not consistently anyway. As I said, I think that Bennett is going to change that offense a bit dramatically and that Edelman will suffer. That's not factoring in Brady missing 4 games, the age of Brady and Edelman, it's simply due to the offense changing. If I did own Edelman I would hold, like I said. I was just describing about where I would value him in response to the original poster's question.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Only because this is a weak rookie draft. His value was actually lower last year (taken after 1.5 in every league I've seen) and didn't really show all that well last season. The addition of Ivory at a fairly hefty price tag doesn't help either.
I do agree though that a Yeldon for McCoy straight up swap would stand more of a chance than trying to get Yeldon and the 1.07.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
RB - Lacy, Murray (either one), Mathews, Gio, Hill....
WR - Jordy probably, Edelman for sure, I'd try to package him with somebody for Dez..
jeaton6
Footballguy
Parker should be able to pull in any of those guys listed below plus another decent piece.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
Jameis Winston 1 QB league all tds 6 points...what's his value?
Borden
Footballguy
Truly depends on the league. If you're in a league that hordes QBs he's going to be worth a lot more. In my opinion Winston is the top young QB (I don't include Luck as a "young" QB) so I would be willing to pay almost any rookie pick after 1.1 because I think you'll be fine or better at QB for a long time. You'll pay the premium once then that's it. That's a theoretical value though.
I would think most people would take 1.05 or better in this draft for him, fairly easily. Or even as part of a trade up package.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Price check on AJ Green will be 28 years old this summer
PPR deep league QRRWWWTKF - Deep at every position, 6 per td.
I give: AJ Green, Jalen Strong, 1.6
I get: Davonte Parker, Gio Benard, 2.3 (15 overall) 2017 1st (projected anywhere from 4-9) and a 2017 third (throw in)
My current picks this year are 1,3,5,6,14
Next year I have two projected high firsts.
If he doesn't make the playoffs I'd have 3 picks next year of the 6 who don't make the playoffs competing to win 1.1 for me in the Toilet bowl.
PPR deep league QRRWWWTKF - Deep at every position, 6 per td.
I give: AJ Green, Jalen Strong, 1.6
I get: Davonte Parker, Gio Benard, 2.3 (15 overall) 2017 1st (projected anywhere from 4-9) and a 2017 third (throw in)
My current picks this year are 1,3,5,6,14
Next year I have two projected high firsts.
If he doesn't make the playoffs I'd have 3 picks next year of the 6 who don't make the playoffs competing to win 1.1 for me in the Toilet bowl.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I think youre giving up some short term value, but I like it long term for your side
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Current WR's -
Cooper, Jeffrey, Dez, Julio, Allen Robinson, Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, Austin, D. Adams, DGB,
So losing AJ won't hurt as bad, I'm just curious if it's proper value, it allows him to have Hopkins and AJ Green.
Pwingles
Footballguy
i think its fair valueand green or alshon would be the guys im looking to move based on your lineup so good job
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I'm going to counter Jeffrey instead of Green and see if that gets it done.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Green might be in line to have his best season this year, and Jeffery has had a history of not staying on the field. It's splitting hairs and I think the value is fine either way. That being said if I was the other guy I might not want to do the deal for Jeffery. Long term I think the value is in your favor in a big way, especially if Parker pans out.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
It's reasonable if you'd rather have RB. I would rather have him than Carroo which is about the best WR you can expect to get at 15. He doesn't have a lot of fans so hard to get a better pick. You should be able to get a 4th added if it really matters that much to you.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
You have all those WR's + AJ Green? Wow, you have like 8 of the top 10 WR's in dynasty FF on your team. How did you get all the best WR's?
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
still looking like a mid 2nd is his current value, nobody is going to believe he is ok until they see it on the field. That plus he is getting older. I don't think there are many buyers currently so he is a hold for me
wakelawyer
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
Wasn't impressed with him last season. Tried to sell him off and got no takers. I will probably still look to move him.
I would take the 15th in a heartbeat. Any top 20 pick would do.
Seems about right to me. Looking at the rookie TEs, I'd trade Graham straight up for Hunter Henry. Would probably prefer to hold Graham vs. Hooper or Higbee. Henry seems to be a mid-2nd right now.Aunt Jemima said:
joey
Footballguy
Larry Fitzgerald value?
Seems like he he has a couple more years of mid-WR2 in him. Late first sounds high any other year, but this year it seems like a crap shoot and maybe worth just keeping him at that value and ride him into the sunset. A random 2017 1st sounds like a slam dunk for him, eh?
Seems like he he has a couple more years of mid-WR2 in him. Late first sounds high any other year, but this year it seems like a crap shoot and maybe worth just keeping him at that value and ride him into the sunset. A random 2017 1st sounds like a slam dunk for him, eh?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I would take both of those but don't think most would give either.
Haven't seen him moved much this offseason but he's definitely in that zone where he seems to have little trade value. I would probably hold and enjoy a few more years of production.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
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squistion
Footballguy
I'd say:
Dixon, Booker, Prosise, The Assistant Coach Forum in that order.
Good luck with your draft!
Pwingles
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
Where are we at with hurns right now? I own him in one league and have had some offers for him, but nothing that im in love with yet. Where should i be valuing him?
I feel like a late 1st isnt out of line considering last years numbers, although I expect a bit of regression
I feel like a late 1st isnt out of line considering last years numbers, although I expect a bit of regression
Run It Up
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
i would snap call on an early first, especially post draft since i got some nice additions and am pretty strong already
Boone22
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
A late 1st this year? I'm not sure why you'd take thet for Hurns. Who is around at that point that's even close to him?Pwingles said:
In this year's draft I'd have him in the coleman/docston/Treadwell tier. Maybe at the end of it but we'll ahead of Shepard/Thomas.
Eta: I'd probably slot him ahead of docston, but behind coleman/Treadwell.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I would rather have Hurns than Thomas or Boyd but would take any pick up to 1.6 for him.
I offered Hurns + pick 11 + pick 21 for pick 3 and it was turned down without a counter. I think it is a hard sell to get that high a pick for him.
I would trade him for any 2017 1st, even a for sure contender, because it removes risk.
I offered Hurns + pick 11 + pick 21 for pick 3 and it was turned down without a counter. I think it is a hard sell to get that high a pick for him.
I would trade him for any 2017 1st, even a for sure contender, because it removes risk.
Pwingles
Footballguy
No not this year.
i never said in the quoted post but down a couple i mentioned we had drafted already, was referring to '17
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I dont like either much for 2016 production, but Bell seems to have the clearer path to a long-term starter role, while Nelson seems more likely to stay in a boom/bust role for much of his career.
I own both, and would cut Nelson ahead of Bell, if necessary.
