sho nuff said:
How much of this country do you think want the "real reform" that you want?
I guess then, by what you are saying is it does not matter who gets elected, real reform that you want likely won't make its way thru congress.
I think the majority of the country is much more lenient than I am. I think the majority of the GOP is more lenient than I am in general.
But here is the crux of the issue and I touched on this in the Trump thread a little bit ago.
Us hardliners haven't budged. But because our government has refused to act on this issue more and more people who would normally be more "compassionate" so to speak are drifting over to our side. Even if they think Trump is a little too harsh or what not...they see everybody else as "do nothing" and they have reached a tipping point where they would rather crack and whip and be too harsh than continue to do nothing.
Even the most lenient parent can snap and blow up on their kid if the little #### pushes hard and long enough, you know?
Here is what I would want:
1. Secure and closely monitored border (doesn't mean building a wall)
2. Crack down on employers
3. Deportation of illegal aliens here, especially criminals.
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After this has been done, and I won't accept the promise that my government will do border and employer enforcement simultaneously, I would be open to discussions about legalizing those still here. But I am never going to support pathway to citizenship and do not believe they deserve it, should be rewarded with it, or need it for that matter.
I think many Americans are open to the following:
1. Allowing those here to stay if the government seriously demonstrates they are serious about making this the last and final "amnesty" push. I think they will fall for the fried ice cream though and that is my biggest concern.
2. I think most Americans are cool with the idea of a "guest worker" program if it is a true guest worker program. What I mean by that is farmers or what not are allowed to bring in laborers...but not their families and the laborers must return each year to their country.
3. I also think most Americans are in support of making the immigration process more fair, efficient and less bureaucratic. I think most Americans don't mind the idea of even allowing more to come in now legally than already are.
Let me get back to Kasich. I have a particular affinity for him going back to his days in Congress following the 94 takeover and the Contract with America. I have been wanting him to run for president for a few cycles. I still think fondly of him and generally love everything about the guy from a policy standpoint.
There is nobody in this race that I trust more than him to take a hatchet to spending and to get our fiscal house in order. I was really crushed when he started parroting the open borders stuff. He gave off a lot of the "immigration speak" that raises red flags in our circles.
In the other thread about Trump, YankeeFan and I have a little back and forth going. Kasich is a guy who I think could theoretically clean up the GOP and get our house back in order so to speak. But...he needs to find religion when it comes to immigration.
Even if he tacked right but not as right as Trump...and really build his credibility on the subject I think he could have (maybe still do) some damage in this election.
