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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?
I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!
Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?
lol I misread your question. I thought you were asking who was in last place among the Republicans. I think that's pretty clear.
No the point is about the depth of the field. If you went 17 deep with the Democrats who would you be looking at as the 17th candidate?
Using the Republicans as a basis for comparison?

Maxine Waters.

 
If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?
I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!
Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?
lol I misread your question. I thought you were asking who was in last place among the Republicans. I think that's pretty clear.
No the point is about the depth of the field. If you went 17 deep with the Democrats who would you be looking at as the 17th candidate?
I thought the depth was point. I think you communicated well.

 
My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.
A 4th wedding at the White House?

 
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If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?
I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!
Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?
lol I misread your question. I thought you were asking who was in last place among the Republicans. I think that's pretty clear.
No the point is about the depth of the field. If you went 17 deep with the Democrats who would you be looking at as the 17th candidate?
Using the Republicans as a basis for comparison?

Maxine Waters.
Sure, thereyago. But I think she's more in the 10-ish range, I think you need to keep going to get to 17.

 
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My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.
A 4th wedding at the White House?
Legalized polygamy and prostitution. Bill will be on board as well.

 
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My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.
Yeah definitely ballpark possibility. He used the word "leverage", I don't think he's skrewing around.

Oh and gosh the Clintons just will have happened to have been involved in the only two major 3rd party campaigns in modern history. Bill won with like 40% in 1992. Hillary could win with 35%.
:lmao:

 
My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.
A 4th wedding at the White House?
Yeah I think the thing he said about the wedding was something he brought up in the debate to have something to say there. Surely there's more stuff going on than that he's getting for his money.

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- Who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field. - We're already up to 5 non-elected officials right now btw.

 
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If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?
spitpballing here....Trump style for the top 10..

1 empty pantsuit Clinton

2 foot in mouth Biden

3 toomanydeoorants Sanders

4 baltimoremarylandsuccessstories OMalley

5 confederate Webb

6 lightweight Chaffee

7 CaffeinePusher Shultz

8 Fauxchohontas Warren

9 worstgovernor Cuomo

10 worstmayorever DeBlasio

11 Sebelius

12 Rendell (PA)

13 Nixon (Mo)

14 Gore

15 Kerry

16 Mike Beebe (Ak)

17 Beshear (Ky)

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field.
Louis is last. He's not really a Democrat.

12. Ed Schultz

13. Nancy Pelosi

14. Alec Baldwin

15. Michael Moore

16. Rosie O Donnell

17. Louis Farrakhan

 
If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?
spitpballing here....Trump style for the top 10..

1 empty pantsuit Clinton

2 foot in mouth Biden

3 toomanydeoorants Sanders

4 baltimoremarylandsuccessstories OMalley

5 confederate Webb

6 lightweight Chaffee

7 CaffeinePusher Shultz

8 Fauxchohontas Warren

9 worstgovernor Cuomo

10 worstmayorever DeBlasio

11 Sebelius

12 Rendell (PA)

13 Nixon (Mo)

14 Gore

15 Kerry

16 Mike Beebe (Ak)

17 Beshear (Ky)
And thank you.

Now that would be an entertaining debate

 
I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.
You don't think that the RNC had a hand in the questions to Trump last night? It wouldn't surprise me that the RNC and Fox Executives got together and pushed for that treatment he got last night. Some sites had Trump winning or doing well - and yet talking heads and focus groups beat the crap out of him afterwards.

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field.
Louis is last. He's not really a Democrat.

12. Ed Schultz

13. Nancy Pelosi

14. Alec Baldwin

15. Michael Moore

16. Rosie O Donnell

17. Louis Farrakhan
Rosie and Farrakhan next to each other on a dais. My lord. Charge me cable subscription prices for that one.

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
 
My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.
You mean calling people fat pigs, bimbos, and Mexicans rapists, blowing off every question requesting detail, and just generally acting like a buffoon isn't a sound strategy for getting to the White House?

 
Yankee's post made me think of the one President in our history who gave cabinet posts to all of the people in his party who ran against him for President- an incredibly audacious move that also turned out to be incredibly successful.
Where you think I got the idea?

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
A few of us are still waiting on you to cite specifics for achieving any of the things he's said he will do. Just one will suffice for now. Until then, you're not helping your cause here.

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
A Donald Trump supporter bemoaning the lack of maturity in a political discussion. That's rich, guy, really rich.

 
If you're making a serious list of 17 dems you are missing Julian Castro who may run next time.
Agree. I thought of Castro, and maybe Villagaroso as well, but again we're into mayors at that point.
to be fair, I did put DeBlasio, but only because I've seen his name mentioned

Castro is likely get a VP nomination...

there are a lot of names you can throw in, but a lot of it comes down to who is willing and ready to run....

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field.
Louis is last. He's not really a Democrat.

12. Ed Schultz

13. Nancy Pelosi

14. Alec Baldwin

15. Michael Moore

16. Rosie O Donnell

17. Louis Farrakhan
17. Jennifer Granholm. I mean, if Ted Cruz can run...

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
:lmao:

Anybody who actually thinks Trump would be a good president is too stupid to be helped. Full stop.

 
Christie was a private attorney on 9/11.

Very disingenuous there - made it sound like he was governing in 2001.

Finally heard the exact sound byte and yeah - he basically is trying to imply that he was in charge there or something when he wasn't governor until 2010.

Fox News asked rough questions but clearly had their thumb (and a few fingers) on the scale. Heck they said "let's hear from two candidates from 5pm" and one of those was basically Perry saying how great and qualified Fiorina is. I think they were really counting on nobody watching the 5pm debate and the media even being too lazy to watch it and just rolling with whatever Fox says about it (which is pretty much what happened - every news article I saw about 5pm just cited the Fox talking heads).

Good article on how basically all of the would-be presidents failed to stand up to Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-pushes-his-stupid-rivals-around-donald-126092692181.html

If they can't handle a clown like Trump how can they handle Putin?

-QG

 
Christie was a private attorney on 9/11.

Very disingenuous there - made it sound like he was governing in 2001.

Finally heard the exact sound byte and yeah - he basically is trying to imply that he was in charge there or something when he wasn't governor until 2010.

Fox News asked rough questions but clearly had their thumb (and a few fingers) on the scale. Heck they said "let's hear from two candidates from 5pm" and one of those was basically Perry saying how great and qualified Fiorina is. I think they were really counting on nobody watching the 5pm debate and the media even being too lazy to watch it and just rolling with whatever Fox says about it (which is pretty much what happened - every news article I saw about 5pm just cited the Fox talking heads).

Good article on how basically all of the would-be presidents failed to stand up to Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-pushes-his-stupid-rivals-around-donald-126092692181.html

If they can't handle a clown like Trump how can they handle Putin?

-QG
I made this point further up but Rand Paul did stand up against him.

 
Christie was a private attorney on 9/11.

Very disingenuous there - made it sound like he was governing in 2001.

Finally heard the exact sound byte and yeah - he basically is trying to imply that he was in charge there or something when he wasn't governor until 2010.
He clearly says (twice, I think) that he was "appointed by George Bush on September 10th, 2001" when his own wiki page says he was appointed in Dec. 2001.

 
If you're making a serious list of 17 dems you are missing Julian Castro who may run next time.
Agree. I thought of Castro, and maybe Villagaroso as well, but again we're into mayors at that point.
to be fair, I did put DeBlasio, but only because I've seen his name mentioned

Castro is likely get a VP nomination...

there are a lot of names you can throw in, but a lot of it comes down to who is willing and ready to run....
his list had like a half dozen actors and Louis Farrakhan on it

 
If you're making a serious list of 17 dems you are missing Julian Castro who may run next time.
Agree. I thought of Castro, and maybe Villagaroso as well, but again we're into mayors at that point.
to be fair, I did put DeBlasio, but only because I've seen his name mentioned

Castro is likely get a VP nomination...

there are a lot of names you can throw in, but a lot of it comes down to who is willing and ready to run....
his list had like a half dozen actors and Louis Farrakhan on it
I was egging Tim, those were his names. I think someone maybe Rove had a more serious list. I'm just saying going 17 deep on the Demo side gets really thin at some point.

- eta - and look at the list now - Sanders has been awesome.... but Chafee (R/I/D) is a top 5 candidate? I love Webb but he's wandering around Iowa looking for where he left his shoes? O'Malley is begging for someone to notice him, he's the most pathetic one.

 
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If you're making a serious list of 17 dems you are missing Julian Castro who may run next time.
Agree. I thought of Castro, and maybe Villagaroso as well, but again we're into mayors at that point.
to be fair, I did put DeBlasio, but only because I've seen his name mentioned

Castro is likely get a VP nomination...

there are a lot of names you can throw in, but a lot of it comes down to who is willing and ready to run....
his list had like a half dozen actors and Louis Farrakhan on it
I was egging Tim, those were his names. I think someone maybe Rove had a more serious list. I'm just saying going 17 deep on the Demo side gets really thin at some point.

- eta - and look at the list now - Sanders has been awesome.... but Chafee (R/I/D) is a top 5 candidate? I love Webb but he's wandering around Iowa looking for where he left his shoes? O'Malley is begging for someone to notice him, he's the most pathetic one.
If the GOP had a Hillary Clinton type they only would have had 5 candidates too. The bottom 2/3 candidates from either party are not all that impressive when you look at 17 of them.

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field.
Louis is last. He's not really a Democrat.

12. Ed Schultz

13. Nancy Pelosi

14. Alec Baldwin

15. Michael Moore

16. Rosie O Donnell

17. Louis Farrakhan
17. Jennifer Granholm. I mean, if Ted Cruz can run...
18. If that's the list, might as well add Obama.

 
Allen Grayson?

Maybe that "ED" show guy.

Louis Farrakhan?
17 Democratic Presidential candidates:

1. Hillary

Chafee [snicker]

Webb

Sanders

Biden

Booker

Patrick

Klobucher

Warren

10. Waters

11. Grayson

12. Farrakhan

13. Ed Schultz

- who else? Keep going, let's fill out the field.
Louis is last. He's not really a Democrat.

12. Ed Schultz

13. Nancy Pelosi

14. Alec Baldwin

15. Michael Moore

16. Rosie O Donnell

17. Louis Farrakhan
17. Jennifer Granholm. I mean, if Ted Cruz can run...
18. If that's the list, might as well add Obama.
Not legal, but of course might as well throw in Michelle.

 
In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.
Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/
Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.
Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.
Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.
Wait a second. Chris Christie? Lying?

No way.

-QG

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
At this point he's the most recognizable. He says outrageous stuff that gets a ton of play in the media. There are a ton of people who don't really care that he's an empty suit with exactly nothing specific on anything whatsoever. It's pretty sad that this is what we've come to in this country, actually. Evidently some people are OK with the guy running the country hurling random insults from the Oval Office and doing nothing else. You said it yourself upthread -- "I don't know what he'll do, or even what I want done, but he's not PC and that's enough for me." Seriously?
Seriously? Is it ok to make up quotes now? I never said what you quoted. You edited and spliced that together to fit your agenda. I said sonething similar to that in response to a specific question about terrorism, not about Trump in general. Pretty lame of you.
Give me one specific policy position that Trump has outlined that you agree with, then. I'll hang up and wait for your answer.
:crickets:The people supporting Donald Trump are exactly what is broken about the Amercan political system. It would be funny if it weren't so freaking sad and distiurbing. As much as I hate the prospect of a business-as-usual Clinton v Bush general, it's infinitely more appealing than Donald effing Trump in the White House, likely using his time in office to personally enrich himself and starting a few wars just to show how big his #### is.
Crickets? You expect me to hurry up and respond to you after you intentionally misquoted me, editing and splicing my words to fit your agenda? The fact that I chose not to waste my time responding to your post doesn't make your point any more valid.
 
Trump coming up next on Hannity.
I hope this guy runs for president every election. Just awesome.
Keep him in it as long as possible. He's good for the party, if for no other reason than people are tuning in. Can't wait to see the ratings from tonight. Bet it was off the charts.
The ratings were off the charts. It was not only the most watched primary debate in history, it was twice as big as the previous record holder.16.0!!!!

FoxNews usually gets a 1.0 or 2.0 at that time.

The highest rated Republican primary debates in 2011 and 2012 brought in a 5.0.

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
:lmao:

Anybody who actually thinks Trump would be a good president is too stupid to be helped. Full stop.
You've just lit the TPW batsignal.

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
At this point he's the most recognizable. He says outrageous stuff that gets a ton of play in the media. There are a ton of people who don't really care that he's an empty suit with exactly nothing specific on anything whatsoever. It's pretty sad that this is what we've come to in this country, actually. Evidently some people are OK with the guy running the country hurling random insults from the Oval Office and doing nothing else. You said it yourself upthread -- "I don't know what he'll do, or even what I want done, but he's not PC and that's enough for me." Seriously?
Seriously? Is it ok to make up quotes now? I never said what you quoted. You edited and spliced that together to fit your agenda. I said sonething similar to that in response to a specific question about terrorism, not about Trump in general. Pretty lame of you.
Give me one specific policy position that Trump has outlined that you agree with, then. I'll hang up and wait for your answer.
:crickets:The people supporting Donald Trump are exactly what is broken about the Amercan political system. It would be funny if it weren't so freaking sad and distiurbing. As much as I hate the prospect of a business-as-usual Clinton v Bush general, it's infinitely more appealing than Donald effing Trump in the White House, likely using his time in office to personally enrich himself and starting a few wars just to show how big his #### is.
Crickets? You expect me to hurry up and respond to you after you intentionally misquoted me, editing and splicing my words to fit your agenda? The fact that I chose not to waste my time responding to your post doesn't make your point any more valid.
Yeah, given the fact that you actually believe that Donald Trump deserves serious consideration for President of the United States, I probably just should have gone the route that others took and just called you too stupid to be helped as opposed to a semi-serious question on actual policy positions. My bad. Although I would like to hear more about "my agenda."

 
Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?
Not really possible.
Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.
Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.
No, that doesn't help at all. Not being able to discuss the leading candidate's supporters without insulting them shows an onvious lack of maturity on your part, and a lack of respect for the the democratic election process in general, which includes all Americans.
:lmao:

Anybody who actually thinks Trump would be a good president is too stupid to be helped. Full stop.
You've just lit the TPW batsignal.
I don't know what you are referring to.

 
I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.
No offense, but for me personally, if you really mean this, then you lack any political credibility. I can't take this seriously.
:lmao:
:lmao: :lmao:

 
Trump coming up next on Hannity.
I hope this guy runs for president every election. Just awesome.
Keep him in it as long as possible. He's good for the party, if for no other reason than people are tuning in. Can't wait to see the ratings from tonight. Bet it was off the charts.
The ratings were off the charts. It was not only the most watched primary debate in history, it was twice as big as the previous record holder.16.0!!!!

FoxNews usually gets a 1.0 or 2.0 at that time.

The highest rated Republican primary debates in 2011 and 2012 brought in a 5.0.
Without Trump what would you guess the ratings would have been?

Pretty interesting conundrum for the Republicans.

 
If you're making a serious list of 17 dems you are missing Julian Castro who may run next time.
He's not making a list of serious Democrats.

Examples:

Gov. Deval Patrick.

Sen. Patty Murray

Gov. Tom Wolfe

Sen. Bill Nelson

Sen. **** Durbin

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Sen. Al Franken

Sen. Jon Tester

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand

Gov Jon Hickenlooper

Gov. Steve Beshear

Gov. Terry McAuliffe

There's 12 additional candidates all with as much (or really more) resume than most of the Republican field.

And I left off a couple obvious ones (like Cuomo) and didn't include congress critters or recent former electeds.

I realize this bursts someone's bubble. HTH.

-QG

 

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