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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
As a college graduate, I wonder why is "college dropout" used as a pejorative?

I can make an argument that the morons are the ones leaving school after four years with six figures of debt for an overpriced, overvalued product. Just because you go to college it doesn't mean you are an intelligent person and vice versa.

 
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I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"
gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.
Trump is a clown but he definitely also appeals to the part of me that really, really despises political correctness. He's fun to watch if for no other reason that he goes after both the limp-wristed social justice crowd and Republican establishment alike and does not back down. If there were ever any groups of people which needed a big 'F-you' it's those two.
Pretty much where I am at.

 
Jonathan Karl ‏@jonkarl ·

JUST IN: ABC/WP Poll. The Front Runner - @realDonaldTrump

Trump 24

Walker 13

Bush 12

Huck 8

Rubio 7

Paul 6

Poll taken Thu-Sun (1/2)
I'm pretty sure that is the second one to show him leading nationally. Personally I think Democrats and Republicans who do so need to stop laughing about him.
how? If the polls don't mean anything yet, you've got to laugh at him. if they do, you've got to laugh at him and everyone supporting him.
Not sure I will support him, but it is tempting given my desire to see the GOP establishment destroyed. I may vote for him just so I can express my hatred toward the Boehner's and McConnells of the world.

And if he runs as a third party candidate and allows a Dem to win. So be it. Serves the GOP right for its failings.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
He left his senior year. How many overeducated but under-learned sociology, human resource, communications, or women's studies graduates with six-figure student loan debt can find Iran on a map these days?

Scott Walker is the governor of a state, has executive experience, and has survived multiple challenges to his office. How many pompous academics in their ivory towers can say the same?

 
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Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
He left his senior year. How many overeducated but under-learned sociology, human resource, communications, or women's studies graduates with six-figure student loan debt can find Iran on a map these days?

Scott Walker is the governor of a state, has executive experience, and has survived multiple challenges to his office. How many pompous academics in their ivory towers can say the same?
and also apparently wanting to use military force on Iran. How in the hell could that be considered a good idea?

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
As a college graduate, I wonder why is "college dropout" used as a pejorative?

I can make an argument that the morons are the ones leaving school after four years with six figures of debt for an overpriced, overvalued product. Just because you go to college it doesn't mean you are an intelligent person and vice versa.
well said.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
He left his senior year. How many overeducated but under-learned sociology, human resource, communications, or women's studies graduates with six-figure student loan debt can find Iran on a map these days?

Scott Walker is the governor of a state, has executive experience, and has survived multiple challenges to his office. How many pompous academics in their ivory towers can say the same?
and also apparently wanting to use military force on Iran. How in the hell could that be considered a good idea?
What part of "God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions" do you find unreasonable? If Iran engages in terrorist attacks that kill Americans using weapons of mass destruction do you propose we just sit back and take it?

His statement is hypothetical, not a battle plan. Evidently reading comprehension is not part of college curriculums these days either.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.
Why isn't "very possible"? We have no idea what Iran's going to do. If he removed "very" would you have issue with it? And if removing "very" from that comment makes it more palatable to you, what likelihood are you assigning to the term "very"?

 
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Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.
Iran has not stopped the rhetoric about death to America, Israel, and fun, so how is it not "very possible?"

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.
Why isn't "very possible"? We have no idea what Iran's going to do. If he removed "very" would you have issue with it?
I would, though the "very" makes it worse.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
So he says something similar to what Obama and Hillary said, and he's irresponsible and dangerous? I'd be willing to bet that it wouldn't be the first card he played on January 20th, but it's rather a contingency plan.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
You don't know this any better than those who are claiming we will be. Reality is, if you look at his comments, you'll see they are very similar to what your precious Hillary has said with respect to military force. They are all claiming to be willing to go to war with Iran. All this guy has said is that should it be warranted, he's on board going to war with Iran if that's what it takes. :shrug:

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
You don't know this any better than those who are claiming we will be. Reality is, if you look at his comments, you'll see they are very similar to what your precious Hillary has said with respect to military force. They are all claiming to be willing to go to war with Iran. All this guy has said is that should it be warranted, he's on board going to war with Iran if that's what it takes. :shrug:
The phrase "day 1" gives the impression you're chomping at the bit don't you think? When other candidates talk day one they are showing their priorities.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
You don't know this any better than those who are claiming we will be. Reality is, if you look at his comments, you'll see they are very similar to what your precious Hillary has said with respect to military force. They are all claiming to be willing to go to war with Iran. All this guy has said is that should it be warranted, he's on board going to war with Iran if that's what it takes. :shrug:
The phrase "day 1" gives the impression you're chomping at the bit don't you think? When other candidates talk day one they are showing their priorities.
Oh please, like Hillary won't be ready Day 1 in case something goes down, as if Pres. Obama isn't "ready" right now? What you should be offended about is Walker suggesting that Obama and Hillary are not "ready" to defend America, of course they are.

 
Look guys, I'm a fan of Obama's deal with Iran. But even if I weren't, it's simply not realistic to go to war with Iran. That would be a catastrophe that would make our excursion into Iraq look like a picnic. And to me, it's highly disturbing that Walker would even insinuate that this could happen on day 1 of his presidency, much less that it's "very possible".

I've done nothing but praise Walker in this thread. Though I disagree with him politically on many items, I wrote that he was well-qualified and one of the strongest candidates the Republicans have. Now I'm beginning to doubt that. These comments are very dangerous IMO and suggest that he's not ready for prime time.
How is his policy different from Hillary's or Obama's?

Obama repeated throughout 2008, 2012, and since, that military options were on the table. Hillary after the Iran deal has said that the deal must be vigorously monitored and in her speech advocating war with Iraq she explicitly brought Iraq's failure to allow inspections during Bill Clinton's terms as part of the basis for going to war with them.
Like any responsible President,Obama and Hillary would use military force as a last resort. We're not close to that, and we won't be in January of 2017.To suggest that such a thing is very likely is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
You don't know this any better than those who are claiming we will be. Reality is, if you look at his comments, you'll see they are very similar to what your precious Hillary has said with respect to military force. They are all claiming to be willing to go to war with Iran. All this guy has said is that should it be warranted, he's on board going to war with Iran if that's what it takes. :shrug:
The phrase "day 1" gives the impression you're chomping at the bit don't you think? When other candidates talk day one they are showing their priorities.
I didn't come away with that impression but I don't really have an axe to grind either so no real need to read anything into the comment other than he'd be ready to make the tough decisions on day one :shrug:

I can see the interpretation being presented by Tim and yourself, but I'm not sure that interpretation says as much about Walker as it does about you guys. I can only imagine what the responses to "it depends on the circumstances" would be from the peanut gallery, even though I think that's a much better response.

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.
Iran has not stopped the rhetoric about death to America, Israel, and fun, so how is it not "very possible?"
And McCain joked about bombing Iran (bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...(sung to Barbara Ann))

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
“Zionism has played a role in our post-9/11 march toward empire, and its influence has encouraged extreme interference in the Middle East,” Paul writes in a chapter entitled “Making America Safe for Empire,” under the sub-chapter, “Tyranny takes hold.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ron-paul-zionism-has-played-a-role-in-our-post-911-march-tow#.bbz1B6nP0

Hillary

Bush

Trump

Paul

Ok, moving on.
To be fair, this is Ron Paul, not Rand.

And, though it pains me to write this, there's a growing number of people who agree with this. And some of them are quite decent (though IMO, misguided.)

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Zionism has played a role in our post-9/11 march toward empire, and its influence has encouraged extreme interference in the Middle East, Paul writes in a chapter entitled Making America Safe for Empire, under the sub-chapter, Tyranny takes hold.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ron-paul-zionism-has-played-a-role-in-our-post-911-march-tow#.bbz1B6nP0Hillary

Bush

Trump

Paul

Ok, moving on.
To be fair, this is Ron Paul, not Rand.And, though it pains me to write this, there's a growing number of people who agree with this. And some of them are quite decent (though IMO, misguided.)
There has has always been something a bit off with Ron Paul and his racist newsletter. There's a reason why people like Stormfront's Don Black supported him....http://ronpaulsupporters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ron-paul-white-power.jpg

I don't hold this against Rand....

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
“Zionism has played a role in our post-9/11 march toward empire, and its influence has encouraged extreme interference in the Middle East,” Paul writes in a chapter entitled “Making America Safe for Empire,” under the sub-chapter, “Tyranny takes hold.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ron-paul-zionism-has-played-a-role-in-our-post-911-march-tow#.bbz1B6nP0

Hillary

Bush

Trump

Paul

Ok, moving on.
To be fair, this is Ron Paul, not Rand.

...
Ack, I apologize. I always give people (you esp) a hard time about not checking links, my bad.

Separate issue now that I've read it properly - wth is Ron Paul doing writing books and running commercials when his son is running for president? 'Thanks pops.'

 
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New polling shows Bush/Walker/Rubio ahead of Clinton in VA, Iowa and Colorado. Assuming no red states turn from 2012, brings the numbers to 304-234, meaning the Rs still need to pick up 36 electoral votes somewhere.

Florida alone wouldn't be enough, but Florida+Wisconsin would be.

Can Rubio carry Florida at the bottom of the ticket? Would Walker take being VP to carry Wisconsin?

 
New polling shows Bush/Walker/Rubio ahead of Clinton in VA, Iowa and Colorado. Assuming no red states turn from 2012, brings the numbers to 304-234, meaning the Rs still need to pick up 36 electoral votes somewhere.

Florida alone wouldn't be enough, but Florida+Wisconsin would be.

Can Rubio carry Florida at the bottom of the ticket? Would Walker take being VP to carry Wisconsin?
Another possibility is Bush or Rubio getting FL and Kasich as VP helping take Ohio.

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.

ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Seriously though, there are 16 R candidates and I can say unequivocally that I would not vote for 12 of them. The only three who strike me as not-totally-crazy are Pataki, Bush, and Christie. I don't know enough about Kasich to have an opinion. Pataki has no chance and I don't think I could vote for a Bush at this point. I suppose I'd consider Christie. It's pretty sad that this is the best the R's can do.

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.

ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
I find it odd that people would be happy about Gary Johnson and not Rand Paul.

Johnson is a utilitarian libertarian and Paul is a fusionist. Both have a lot in common, even if they came from totally different philosophical positions. I, of course, personally like most of Paul's stances better, but can also get behind a Johnson run just on policy recommendations alone.

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.

ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Seriously though, there are 16 R candidates and I can say unequivocally that I would not vote for 12 of them. The only three who strike me as not-totally-crazy are Pataki, Bush, and Christie. I don't know enough about Kasich to have an opinion. Pataki has no chance and I don't think I could vote for a Bush at this point. I suppose I'd consider Christie. It's pretty sad that this is the best the R's can do.
I would highly encourage you to look more deeply at kasich. Not that I think he has a chance of winning.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: Its very possible God forbid, but its very possible that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I dont want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, Im going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
What's your problem with this? That he claims he'd be prepared to make tough decisions day one in the WH? I don't get it :oldunsure:
My problem with it? Well let's start with the notion that it is "very possible" that on the first day in office, our next President will have to take military action against Iran. That's not "very possible", and I'm disturbed that he thinks it is.
Iran has not stopped the rhetoric about death to America, Israel, and fun, so how is it not "very possible?"
And McCain joked about bombing Iran (bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...(sung to Barbara Ann))
I didn't like the original song before, and that was the turd-flavored icing on the stupid cake.
 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Johnson has said he's running again. The Libertarians don't pick their candidate for a while though.
sweet. I hadn't seen that :pickle:
I went libertarian last time in the election, and I may have to again. I'm not sure yet.

 
Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

:shock:
Can this college dropout locate Tehran on a map? He's stating the ultra hawk line, but I think his lack of experience in foreign affairs will be exploited by his GOP opponents,
He left his senior year. How many overeducated but under-learned sociology, human resource, communications, or women's studies graduates with six-figure student loan debt can find Iran on a map these days?

Scott Walker is the governor of a state, has executive experience, and has survived multiple challenges to his office. How many pompous academics in their ivory towers can say the same?
and also apparently wanting to use military force on Iran. How in the hell could that be considered a good idea?
Walker is "doing nothing but "Obama promising to close Gitmo"ing. He's laying red meat rhetoric that his base likes to hear.

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.

ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Seriously though, there are 16 R candidates and I can say unequivocally that I would not vote for 12 of them. The only three who strike me as not-totally-crazy are Pataki, Bush, and Christie. I don't know enough about Kasich to have an opinion. Pataki has no chance and I don't think I could vote for a Bush at this point. I suppose I'd consider Christie. It's pretty sad that this is the best the R's can do.
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This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Johnson has said he's running again. The Libertarians don't pick their candidate for a while though.
sweet. I hadn't seen that :pickle:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/465426-official-gary-johnson-fbg-campaign-headquarters/?p=17932698

 
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
Yep. Rinse repeat.ETA - unless Gary Johnson runs again :excited:
Johnson has said he's running again. The Libertarians don't pick their candidate for a while though.
sweet. I hadn't seen that :pickle:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/465426-official-gary-johnson-fbg-campaign-headquarters/?p=17932698
didnt think that that was an official announcement. is he campaigning? is there a website?
 
joffer said:
Fennis said:
joffer said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Johnson has said he's running again. The Libertarians don't pick their candidate for a while though.
sweet. I hadn't seen that :pickle:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/465426-official-gary-johnson-fbg-campaign-headquarters/?p=17932698
didnt think that that was an official announcement. is he campaigning? is there a website?
He has not officially announced yet.

Heres an 18 minute interview he just did with Reason.com

http://reason.com/reasontv/2015/07/16/gary-johnson-trump-pot-election

 
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Slapdash said:
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
It doesn't surprise me that you would write this, but it saddens me that many seem to agree with you.

Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker , Marco Rubio, John Kasich, and Chris Christie are all candidates with the necessary experience and gravitas to be President of the United States. Although I disagree with several of these (and Walker and Rubio scare me a little with their foreign policy pronouncements) I think that overall any of them would be a good President. I support Hillary because I believe she will be better than good; she will be excellent.

Anyone running who is not on the list I just mentioned does not, IMO, have the necessary experience and/or gravitas to be President.

 
Slapdash said:
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
It doesn't surprise me that you would write this, but it saddens me that many seem to agree with you.

Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker , Marco Rubio, John Kasich, and Chris Christie are all candidates with the necessary experience and gravitas to be President of the United States. Although I disagree with several of these (and Walker and Rubio scare me a little with their foreign policy pronouncements) I think that overall any of them would be a good President. I support Hillary because I believe she will be better than good; she will be excellent.

Anyone running who is not on the list I just mentioned does not, IMO, have the necessary experience and/or gravitas to be President.
What do you see in Christie that you like? I've asked a few on here why they like him but I haven't gotten an answer. One thing's for sure, you won't find many people in NJ who like him for president. And I voted for him in his first election.

 
Slapdash said:
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
It doesn't surprise me that you would write this, but it saddens me that many seem to agree with you.

Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker , Marco Rubio, John Kasich, and Chris Christie are all candidates with the necessary experience and gravitas to be President of the United States. Although I disagree with several of these (and Walker and Rubio scare me a little with their foreign policy pronouncements) I think that overall any of them would be a good President. I support Hillary because I believe she will be better than good; she will be excellent.

Anyone running who is not on the list I just mentioned does not, IMO, have the necessary experience and/or gravitas to be President.
What do you see in Christie that you like? I've asked a few on here why they like him but I haven't gotten an answer. One thing's for sure, you won't find many people in NJ who like him for president. And I voted for him in his first election.
From an outside perspective, I think he's done a pretty good job with New Jersey. I really liked how he handled Hurricane Sandy (in contrast to the Louisiana governor in 2005.) I also thought it was wise of him to try and tackle the pension issue- though that might hurt the state's economy in the short term, it should help it in the long term.

I'm not in love with Christie and I probably won't vote for him. But I do think he's qualified to be President.

 
Slapdash said:
This looks like a year to just write someone in. What a truly awful field of candidates, none of them are fit to lead the nation.
It doesn't surprise me that you would write this, but it saddens me that many seem to agree with you.

Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker , Marco Rubio, John Kasich, and Chris Christie are all candidates with the necessary experience and gravitas to be President of the United States. Although I disagree with several of these (and Walker and Rubio scare me a little with their foreign policy pronouncements) I think that overall any of them would be a good President. I support Hillary because I believe she will be better than good; she will be excellent.

Anyone running who is not on the list I just mentioned does not, IMO, have the necessary experience and/or gravitas to be President.
What do you see in Christie that you like? I've asked a few on here why they like him but I haven't gotten an answer. One thing's for sure, you won't find many people in NJ who like him for president. And I voted for him in his first election.
From an outside perspective, I think he's done a pretty good job with New Jersey. I really liked how he handled Hurricane Sandy (in contrast to the Louisiana governor in 2005.) I also thought it was wise of him to try and tackle the pension issue- though that might hurt the state's economy in the short term, it should help it in the long term.

I'm not in love with Christie and I probably won't vote for him. But I do think he's qualified to be President.
He handled the initial crisis well, but many people still have not received their money. He's completely botched the pension issue. First he passed a new law back in '11(?) and touted his ability to work towards fixing it - even used it as an example of how he can work with Dems. That deal included pubic workers increase their contribution, and they have. Now he says the State can't make its negotiated contributions and has reneged claiming his '11 law violates the State constitution. How convenient. Gets the workers to contribute more but can't pay his own share.

State's economy? NJ ranks 45th. One of the lowest states for job growth trailing both PA & NY. Our bond rating has been lowered a record 9 times under Christie - mostly due to his mishandling of the pensions.

NJ won an $8B judgement against Exxon Mobile, but he settled for $254 Mil. Remember the State's broke, but let the oil company off the hook.

Our transportation trust fund is broke but he won't do anything to address it (we have one of the lowest state gas tax in the country). Meanwhile we have bridges falling apart to the point they are being closed. There's an existing bridge in north Jersey that's been in design for replacement for years. I'll say 8 or more years in design. Keeps getting shut down due to lack of funding, then restarted for a bit, shut down again, etc. Last fall it was inspected again and immediately shut down because they were afraid it could no longer sustain the weight of a heavy snow plus the plow without collapsing onto the railroad below. The infrastructure in NJ is in bad shape and out of money. But candidate Christie needs to show he won't raise taxes, so nothing is done.

Christie made his reputation by hugging Obama and telling a teacher to sit down and shut up. Other than that, he's been useless.

 

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