Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (2 Viewers)

[Apple Jack]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

Not really possible.

 

[timschochet]

Yankee's post made me think of the one President in our history who gave cabinet posts to all of the people in his party who ran against him for President- an incredibly audacious move that also turned out to be incredibly successful.

 

[SkyRattlers]

Read quite a few "Who won the debate" articles this morning and they have mostly been the standard post debate bluster.

But this one struck me as an interesting take http://theweek.com/articles/570270/trump-show-how-donald-trump-won-gop-debate-stole-presidential-election

 

[Rove!]

In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.

Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/

Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.

Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.

What is it with politicians constantly lying about relatively inconsequential stuff like this

 

[jamny]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

 

[tom22406]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

I'll go with Gary Johnson given that selection of fine ####.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

There's no way not to be insulting. Look at your post previous to this one where you identify not being stopped by political correctness as being an important quality. There's been a thousand posts in this thread highlighting why the office of POTUS is a complex one that can't be handled with rash Joe-the-plumber platitudes. We have a lot of morons in this country who thinks it's that simple, however.

This is a solid post but you should have called him a fat pig.

 

[satch]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

At this point he's the most recognizable. He says outrageous stuff that gets a ton of play in the media. There are a ton of people who don't really care that he's an empty suit with exactly nothing specific on anything whatsoever. It's pretty sad that this is what we've come to in this country, actually. Evidently some people are OK with the guy running the country hurling random insults from the Oval Office and doing nothing else. You said it yourself upthread -- "I don't know what he'll do, or even what I want done, but he's not PC and that's enough for me." Seriously?

Seriously? Is it ok to make up quotes now? I never said what you quoted. You edited and spliced that together to fit your agenda. I said sonething similar to that in response to a specific question about terrorism, not about Trump in general. Pretty lame of you.

 

[satch]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

There's no way not to be insulting. Look at your post previous to this one where you identify not being stopped by political correctness as being an important quality. There's been a thousand posts in this thread highlighting why the office of POTUS is a complex one that can't be handled with rash Joe-the-plumber platitudes. We have a lot of morons in this country who thinks it's that simple, however.

This is a solid post but you should have called him a fat pig.

Yeah, real solid to be incapable of answering a question without being insulting. If that's a solid quality you guys should love Trump.

 

[Ilov80s]

In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.

Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/

Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.

Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.

What is it with politicians constantly lying about relatively inconsequential stuff like this

It was especially bad because he is trying to do the whole Rudy tap into 9/11 thing. It's been 14 years. Come on. Even worse, he is lying to make that connection. Gross.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

At this point he's the most recognizable. He says outrageous stuff that gets a ton of play in the media. There are a ton of people who don't really care that he's an empty suit with exactly nothing specific on anything whatsoever. It's pretty sad that this is what we've come to in this country, actually. Evidently some people are OK with the guy running the country hurling random insults from the Oval Office and doing nothing else. You said it yourself upthread -- "I don't know what he'll do, or even what I want done, but he's not PC and that's enough for me." Seriously?

Seriously? Is it ok to make up quotes now? I never said what you quoted. You edited and spliced that together to fit your agenda. I said sonething similar to that in response to a specific question about terrorism, not about Trump in general. Pretty lame of you.

Give me one specific policy position that Trump has outlined that you agree with, then. I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

 

[satch]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

Not really possible.

Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.

 

[Amused to Death]

In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.

Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/

Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.

Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.

What is it with politicians constantly lying about relatively inconsequential stuff like this

It was especially bad because he is trying to do the whole Rudy tap into 9/11 thing. It's been 14 years. Come on. Even worse, he is lying to make that connection. Gross.

All while trying to justify why the 4th amendment doesn't matter. He'll fight for the 2nd though - although that's a bit of flip-flop for him too.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.

Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/

Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.

Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.

Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Christie is now Bud-Lite compared to Trump's Bud. People who are attracted to outspoken, confrontational candidates who "tell it like it is" want the candidate who's willing to take it the furthest. Christie has been Trumped at his own game.

 

[timschochet]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

No offense, but for me personally, if you really mean this, then you lack any political credibility. I can't take this seriously.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

Not really possible.

Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.

Not all Americans. Just the ones that think Trump would actually be a good President. That's a pretty small slice overall.He's leading the GOP polls, but his total is like 25% or so. That probably translates to less than 10% of Americans.

 

[jamny]

Since the opening question on not running as a third party candidate was clearly aimed at Trump, Fox should have asked a follow up question: If Donald Trump becomes the Republican nominee, who here will openly support his election.

 

[Apple Jack]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

Not really possible.

Says a lot about you, and your opinion of Americans in general.

Trump supporters are not "Americans in general." Hope that helps.

 

[jamny]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

No offense, but for me personally, if you really mean this, then you lack any political credibility. I can't take this seriously.

 

[RBM]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

No offense, but for me personally, if you really mean this, then you lack any political credibility. I can't take this seriously.

Lol who cares if you take him seriously? His vote counts just as much as yours.

 

[Don Quixote]

PFT Commenter's debate recap is up: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/7/9114747/joe-flacco-elite-gop-debate-cleveland

 

[timschochet]

I've always been a fan of Trump and am glad he's in this race. He adds a much needed energy and has the ability to draw other candidates out of their shells and maybe make them more real. I do hope he comes down to earth, doesn't win the nomination and doesn't run as a third party.

But Hillary vs. Trump?

I'm going with The Donald.

No offense, but for me personally, if you really mean this, then you lack any political credibility. I can't take this seriously.

Lol who cares if you take him seriously? His vote counts just as much as yours.

Depending on where he lives, his vote could count far more than mine.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Question for the Anti-Trump crowd-

Without being insulting, why do you think Trump is leading the polls?

At this point he's the most recognizable. He says outrageous stuff that gets a ton of play in the media. There are a ton of people who don't really care that he's an empty suit with exactly nothing specific on anything whatsoever. It's pretty sad that this is what we've come to in this country, actually. Evidently some people are OK with the guy running the country hurling random insults from the Oval Office and doing nothing else. You said it yourself upthread -- "I don't know what he'll do, or even what I want done, but he's not PC and that's enough for me." Seriously?

Seriously? Is it ok to make up quotes now? I never said what you quoted. You edited and spliced that together to fit your agenda. I said sonething similar to that in response to a specific question about terrorism, not about Trump in general. Pretty lame of you.

Give me one specific policy position that Trump has outlined that you agree with, then. I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

:crickets:

The people supporting Donald Trump are exactly what is broken about the Amercan political system. It would be funny if it weren't so freaking sad and distiurbing. As much as I hate the prospect of a business-as-usual Clinton v Bush general, it's infinitely more appealing than Donald effing Trump in the White House, likely using his time in office to personally enrich himself and starting a few wars just to show how big his #### is.

 

[hagmania]

"I don't have time for political correctness" gets them all good and moist. Not being an ####### being a very time-consuming pursuit.

His focus is on getting things done. If feelings get hurt in the process so be it. He doesn't have time to waste worrying about that. I love that attitude from a Presidential candidate. The upside far outweighs the downside. If he can get this country back on track I have no problem sacrificing a few hurt feelings. You may think he's an #######, but does that necessarily mean he couldn't be the best choice to fix some of the major problems our country is facing?

Dude, the country isn't off track. The country is changing. The country is always changing. People who don't like change think the country is off track. It's not; change is the natural order of things.

Half the country think it's ####ed, the other half thinks it's fine. That's how it's always going to be going forward. But Dems will win major elections because of dumb young voters who are only concerned with social issues and minorities who are willing to put their social stances aside for the entitlements Dems will throw at them. It's as simple as that.

Honestly, I'd rather us spend more time tanking on Democratic economic policies while our country escapes social Neanderthalism.

 

[Ilov80s]

In retrospect I will also give Rand Paul more credit - he stood up to Trump twice, once on the 3rd party run issue and again on the Hillary-corruption issue - and he also stood up to Christie. I do think Christie landed points with the 'real life vs ivory tower' argument but I happen to agree with Paul on the NSA issue and at any rate he actually won on that point, the courts agreed. - But aside from that it was like watching a bully beat up a kid at recess and everyone standing around doing nothing, except Paul, which I respect.

Decent article here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/rand-paul-and-chris-christie-clash-on-nsa-spying/400718/

Great article and it demonstrates once again how Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Also, didn't CC make the point twice that he was sworn in as US Attorney on 9/10/01? According to this he held the office from 2002 to 2008.

Wow. He totally said that. And according to wiki, he was nominated on 12/7/01 and confirmed on 12/20/01.

Wow.

Christie tells it like it is like he wishes it was.

Christie is now Bud-Lite compared to Trump's Bud. People who are attracted to outspoken, confrontational candidates who "tell it like it is" want the candidate who's willing to take it the furthest. Christie has been Trumped at his own game.

I still can not believe a year ago people thought this was a front runner. It's like when people thought Matt Barkley was a potential #1 over all pick in NFL draft or people that William Green was going to be the next bing fantasy RB.

 

[RBM]

I still can't get over that freakin focus group. Cruz and Huckabee. Damn.

 

[Amused to Death]

I still can't get over that freakin focus group. Cruz and Huckabee. Damn.

Do you think they were random people pulled off the street? C'mon, they were chosen by Fox.

 

[rockaction]

Both were great. It's theater.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

 

[Bucky86]

I still can't get over that freakin focus group. Cruz and Huckabee. Damn.

My spidey senses go off whenever I see those two. They've got some skeletons....

 

[Amused to Death]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I think that was Fox's job last night. Including the "focus" group.

 

[rockaction]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I would love if a Goldwater stepped up and defined the party going forward.

 

[rockaction]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I think that was Fox's job last night. Including the "focus" group.

Yeah, that's pretty evident.

Not knocking your comment; but that was on from the get-go, including a veiled conspiracy theory sentiment about Clinton and Trump.

 

[Bucky86]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I think that was Fox's job last night. Including the "focus" group.

Yeah, that's pretty evident.

Not knocking your comment; but that was on from the get-go, including a veiled conspiracy theory sentiment about Clinton and Trump.

man I love FNC. Fair and Balanced

 

[TobiasFunke]

PFT Commenter's debate recap is up: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/7/9114747/joe-flacco-elite-gop-debate-cleveland

Everyone else playing for second place.

 

[rockaction]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I think that was Fox's job last night. Including the "focus" group.

Yeah, that's pretty evident.

Not knocking your comment; but that was on from the get-go, including a veiled conspiracy theory sentiment about Clinton and Trump.

man I love FNC. Fair and Balanced

Whatever it was, that was the best political debate I can remember since Cheney-Lieberman had theirs.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I thought it was comical that Trump let everyone know that if the RNC doesn't nominate him, he will take his bag of money/rhetoric and run as an independent. And, of course you have those people who are loony as well that will vote for him, thus taking away valuable votes from the RNC nominee. Here we are in the 21st century and our "drunk Uncle Donald" thinks he is going to win this election come hell or high water!

At what point does the RNC try to distant themselves from Trump, and try to get one of the electable candidates in the forefront? I don't think that the guys who actually have a chance of winning the Presidency want to roll around in the mud with Trump. Or, make a statement our of anger trying to keep up with Trump's ramblings.

I think that the RNC has to get someone out front ASAP to make a serious run at Hillary if the RNC has a chance to win. Or, does the RNC already know they are going to lose the Presidential election, and just doesn't care at this point? Maybe something bigger at play is happening.

I think that was Fox's job last night. Including the "focus" group.

Yeah, that's pretty evident.

Not knocking your comment; but that was on from the get-go, including a veiled conspiracy theory sentiment about Clinton and Trump.

man I love FNC. Fair and Balanced

Whatever it was, that was the best political debate I can remember since Cheney-Lieberman had theirs.

Apparently the ratings set a record, through the roof.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

"I don't have time for political correctness" gets them all good and moist. Not being an ####### being a very time-consuming pursuit.

His focus is on getting things done. If feelings get hurt in the process so be it. He doesn't have time to waste worrying about that. I love that attitude from a Presidential candidate. The upside far outweighs the downside. If he can get this country back on track I have no problem sacrificing a few hurt feelings. You may think he's an #######, but does that necessarily mean he couldn't be the best choice to fix some of the major problems our country is facing?

His focus is on dodging questions like any other political candidate, but doing so while calling people names.

It's amazing to me what people can latch on to in the face of evidence. The presidential candidate that has LEAST shown he has any plans or initiative to actually get anything done is the guy who will "just get things done" because....he speaks with less of a filter? "What are you going to do about healthcare". "Replace it with something terrific". "What are you going to do when Hillary Clinton's campaign accuses you of being a mysogynist"? "Stop being mean to me Megyn, I have been nice to you but I should be meaner".

Has this guy actually said what he plans to do about anything? Well, other than totally fix immigration by magically forcing the Mexican government to pay to build a wall that targets a minority immigrating country. And can we talk about that for a second. When another candidate brought up that Mexican immigrants make up a minority of illegal immigrants do we think Trump was actually aware of that, or was it news to him? I mean, when his irrefutable evidence about the immigration stuff is "I talked to a guy at the border patrol" being clueless about it would not surprise me.

When he went on that rant about "our government is stupid and Mexico's government is smart" he didn't sound like a guy with a plan that was just unwilling to filter himself. He sounded like a backwater redneck going on some stupid rant. My wife's dad was a rural farmer and, while he's been urbanized by my mother in law, when we get together with his extended rural family that's a lot of what it sounds like. "That o-bamajammer is an Al Qaeda plant trying to destroy 'Merica from the inside. And them Mexicans, they be smart too, sendin' us all ther criminals and rapists and the like cuz they know we'll just take 'em in and then they can keep all the good peoples".

Can we stop letting this guy off the hook for claiming he had evidence that the Mexican government was sending us their rapists and criminals on purpose and then revealing that his evidence was "I talked to some tinfoil hat whack-a-doo at the border patrol". It's both absurd and scary.

Regardless, the bottom line is that Trump gets credit for not being a politician but the reality is that he's the biggest politician of any of them. His abrasiveness and abruptness polls well so he embraces it, all the while dodging every issue and question (save the immigration one, which he appears to have little clue about, hence why he's probably dodged the rest) better than any of the other politicians have.

His plan for health care is to come up with something terrific. His plan for balancing the budget is hey, I've made money before. His plan for foreign policy is to get everything we want and give up nothing that anyone else wants. How is he going to do any of this? "Hey, remember that one time I called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig? That was funny and unfiltered, amirite!?"

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?

 

[Bucky86]

You gotta think the Koch brothers step in at some point and stop Trump. They have a lot more money than he does...

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

You gotta think the Koch brothers step in at some point and stop Trump. They have a lot more money than he does...

They should offer him a coal plant, or a county, or an island, maybe 77 Russian whores every month for life, whatever it takes.

 

[timschochet]

"I don't have time for political correctness" gets them all good and moist. Not being an ####### being a very time-consuming pursuit.

His focus is on getting things done. If feelings get hurt in the process so be it. He doesn't have time to waste worrying about that. I love that attitude from a Presidential candidate. The upside far outweighs the downside. If he can get this country back on track I have no problem sacrificing a few hurt feelings. You may think he's an #######, but does that necessarily mean he couldn't be the best choice to fix some of the major problems our country is facing?

His focus is on dodging questions like any other political candidate, but doing so while calling people names.

It's amazing to me what people can latch on to in the face of evidence. The presidential candidate that has LEAST shown he has any plans or initiative to actually get anything done is the guy who will "just get things done" because....he speaks with less of a filter? "What are you going to do about healthcare". "Replace it with something terrific". "What are you going to do when Hillary Clinton's campaign accuses you of being a mysogynist"? "Stop being mean to me Megyn, I have been nice to you but I should be meaner".

Has this guy actually said what he plans to do about anything? Well, other than totally fix immigration by magically forcing the Mexican government to pay to build a wall that targets a minority immigrating country. And can we talk about that for a second. When another candidate brought up that Mexican immigrants make up a minority of illegal immigrants do we think Trump was actually aware of that, or was it news to him? I mean, when his irrefutable evidence about the immigration stuff is "I talked to a guy at the border patrol" being clueless about it would not surprise me.

When he went on that rant about "our government is stupid and Mexico's government is smart" he didn't sound like a guy with a plan that was just unwilling to filter himself. He sounded like a backwater redneck going on some stupid rant. My wife's dad was a rural farmer and, while he's been urbanized by my mother in law, when we get together with his extended rural family that's a lot of what it sounds like. "That o-bamajammer is an Al Qaeda plant trying to destroy 'Merica from the inside. And them Mexicans, they be smart too, sendin' us all ther criminals and rapists and the like cuz they know we'll just take 'em in and then they can keep all the good peoples".

Can we stop letting this guy off the hook for claiming he had evidence that the Mexican government was sending us their rapists and criminals on purpose and then revealing that his evidence was "I talked to some tinfoil hat whack-a-doo at the border patrol". It's both absurd and scary.

Regardless, the bottom line is that Trump gets credit for not being a politician but the reality is that he's the biggest politician of any of them. His abrasiveness and abruptness polls well so he embraces it, all the while dodging every issue and question (save the immigration one, which he appears to have little clue about, hence why he's probably dodged the rest) better than any of the other politicians have.

His plan for health care is to come up with something terrific. His plan for balancing the budget is hey, I've made money before. His plan for foreign policy is to get everything we want and give up nothing that anyone else wants. How is he going to do any of this? "Hey, remember that one time I called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig? That was funny and unfiltered, amirite!?"

No love for Trump, but to be fair, his answer on health care was the one time he actually did get into specifics. He stated that there should be no difference between states, which is something a lot of people agree with.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

"I don't have time for political correctness" gets them all good and moist. Not being an ####### being a very time-consuming pursuit.

His focus is on getting things done. If feelings get hurt in the process so be it. He doesn't have time to waste worrying about that. I love that attitude from a Presidential candidate. The upside far outweighs the downside. If he can get this country back on track I have no problem sacrificing a few hurt feelings. You may think he's an #######, but does that necessarily mean he couldn't be the best choice to fix some of the major problems our country is facing?

His focus is on dodging questions like any other political candidate, but doing so while calling people names.

It's amazing to me what people can latch on to in the face of evidence. The presidential candidate that has LEAST shown he has any plans or initiative to actually get anything done is the guy who will "just get things done" because....he speaks with less of a filter? "What are you going to do about healthcare". "Replace it with something terrific". "What are you going to do when Hillary Clinton's campaign accuses you of being a mysogynist"? "Stop being mean to me Megyn, I have been nice to you but I should be meaner".

Has this guy actually said what he plans to do about anything? Well, other than totally fix immigration by magically forcing the Mexican government to pay to build a wall that targets a minority immigrating country. And can we talk about that for a second. When another candidate brought up that Mexican immigrants make up a minority of illegal immigrants do we think Trump was actually aware of that, or was it news to him? I mean, when his irrefutable evidence about the immigration stuff is "I talked to a guy at the border patrol" being clueless about it would not surprise me.

When he went on that rant about "our government is stupid and Mexico's government is smart" he didn't sound like a guy with a plan that was just unwilling to filter himself. He sounded like a backwater redneck going on some stupid rant. My wife's dad was a rural farmer and, while he's been urbanized by my mother in law, when we get together with his extended rural family that's a lot of what it sounds like. "That o-bamajammer is an Al Qaeda plant trying to destroy 'Merica from the inside. And them Mexicans, they be smart too, sendin' us all ther criminals and rapists and the like cuz they know we'll just take 'em in and then they can keep all the good peoples".

Can we stop letting this guy off the hook for claiming he had evidence that the Mexican government was sending us their rapists and criminals on purpose and then revealing that his evidence was "I talked to some tinfoil hat whack-a-doo at the border patrol". It's both absurd and scary.

Regardless, the bottom line is that Trump gets credit for not being a politician but the reality is that he's the biggest politician of any of them. His abrasiveness and abruptness polls well so he embraces it, all the while dodging every issue and question (save the immigration one, which he appears to have little clue about, hence why he's probably dodged the rest) better than any of the other politicians have.

His plan for health care is to come up with something terrific. His plan for balancing the budget is hey, I've made money before. His plan for foreign policy is to get everything we want and give up nothing that anyone else wants. How is he going to do any of this? "Hey, remember that one time I called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig? That was funny and unfiltered, amirite!?"

No love for Trump, but to be fair, his answer on health care was the one time he actually did get into specifics. He stated that there should be no difference between states, which is something a lot of people agree with.

Ha, yeah except Obama. Trump is also for universal health care, which really moots that whole insurance argument. Yeah, he's for insurance crossing state lines.... annnndd he's also for getting rid of the whole insurance industry.

Trumptastic.

 

[timschochet]

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?

I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!

 

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(save the immigration one, which he appears to have little clue about, hence why he's probably dodged the rest) better than any of the other politicians have.

I love the "you're so stupid, you don't understand argument."

It's really weird, and in some cases, true. This might be one of them.

But what do we do with aliens and the pressure that immigration puts on our political philosophy? Sometimes the reductive is true; it might be in this case.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?

I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!

Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?

 

[timschochet]

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?

I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!

Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?

lol I misread your question. I thought you were asking who was in last place among the Republicans. I think that's pretty clear.

 

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My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If we got 17 deep into the Democratic field, who would we be looking at at no. 17?

I'll give a hint:

So what movie should we go see tonight, dear?

I don't really know. What I DO know, however, is that we NEED TO HAVE GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!

Oh, Hillary? - Hillary's already in at No. 1. Just 16 more to go. Who are we looking at, the mayor of Newark maybe?

lol I misread your question. I thought you were asking who was in last place among the Republicans. I think that's pretty clear.

No the point is about the depth of the field. If you went 17 deep with the Democrats who would you be looking at as the 17th candidate?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

My theory is that Trump doesn't want to be POTUS. He will make money off all this free publicity he's getting with a new TV show or something. He will also do whatever it takes to make sure the GOP loses the general (third party run if he has to). Then when Hillary wins he will be able to get any favor he wants from her.

Yeah definitely ballpark possibility. He used the word "leverage", I don't think he's skrewing around.

Oh and gosh the Clintons just will have happened to have been involved in the only two major 3rd party campaigns in modern history. Bill won with like 40% in 1992. Hillary could win with 35%.