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*Official 2016 Philadelphia Eagles* - The year of Change (1 Viewer)

If DGB turns it on (still a big 'if' IMO) that gives the Birds a decent RZ threat, a B+ slot guy, possibly the most overpaid TE in the NFC, and a pile of hot garbage otherwise. That's still a bottom-10 NFL receiving corps, and that's the best case scenario. Right now they're more like bottom-5.

Having said that, I'm actually glad Howie didn't panic on the Huff news and overpay for a guy like Smith because, let's face it, this team ain't making a SB run this year with or without him. Better to see what falls to them in FA and the draft and keep some cap space freed up for '17 and beyond, when it might matter a bit more.
By turning it on I would mean playing like the top 10 talent he could be, being the wr1 and dominating the RZ and being a deep play threat. Now the odds of that happening are debateable but that's the only wr they have that looks to have much upside. The rest are what they are.

 
Huff is some serious serious trouble. New Jersey has strict gun laws. He's looking at 5 years for the gun and 2 for the bullies. Mandatory minimum. 

Is is anyone shocked that Doug is letting him play? Some coaches would have cut him outright. This team is getting a little like Cinicinatti.

 
Huff is some serious serious trouble. New Jersey has strict gun laws. He's looking at 5 years for the gun and 2 for the bullies. Mandatory minimum. 

Is is anyone shocked that Doug is letting him play? Some coaches would have cut him outright. This team is getting a little like Cinicinatti.
Not shocked at all. No sentence pending. NFL has said nothing. Guys gonna play. That's standard for all 32 teams. It's only when you get into the domestic abuse area that it gets a bit shady for teams now. They don't want the public appearance that they don't care.

 
And FYI, unless its a guy beating his spouse (or anyone) I really don't care anyway.  Smoke weed, with a gun, while speeding is fine with me.  Just catch some damn TD's

 
And FYI, unless its a guy beating his spouse (or anyone) I really don't care anyway.  Smoke weed, with a gun, while speeding is fine with me.  Just catch some damn TD's
Just seems crazy that a guy might be heading to jail for 5 years and he's just suiting up and playing a football game like its no big deal.  How does that not get in his head??

Might be his last game as an Eagle.

 
Just seems crazy that a guy might be heading to jail for 5 years and he's just suiting up and playing a football game like its no big deal.  How does that not get in his head??

Might be his last game as an Eagle.
No one said it wouldn't bother him. The game might be a welcome distraction I would think.

 
So they have to go back to using ryan Mathews a bit more don't they?  they will kill sproles at that rate and I don't think smallwood is ready

 
need2know said:
He won't see one day in prison
That didn't work out for Plaxico Burress. NY and NJ do not mess around with gun laws. Maybe you're right but I'm not sure how he beats this, these gun laws are super strict. 

 
Yea there's pretty much no wiggle room if a judge wants to apply the letter of the law.
I don't think anyone is mentioning that Huff also got a DUI. He was stoned and had two ounces of pot with him. That's not exactly a small amount. So he's already going to go into the league program for that alone. I'm kinda surprised Doug is letting him play. Andy likely would have cut him and someone like Belichick definitely cuts him. These are catastrophically poor decisions  this guy has made. He's been here three years and most of the players live in jersey. I guess it's a giant assumption but doesn't he know the laws? Guess not. The other idiot Bradham walks into an airport with gun. What the hell is wrong with these guys? I get they often come from terrible bacjgorunds and many have learning deficits but doesn't anyone council these guys on the laws? I guess they do but falls on deaf ears...

 
Few key things from the ESPN Article:

Huff confirmed that the gun is licensed in Texas, and acknowledged that he wasn't as familiar with the New Jersey laws as he should have been. He said that he felt his life has been threatened in the past, which is why he chooses to carry a gun.

"I'm a professional athlete. What professional athlete don't have a gun?" Huff said.  Asked if he believes if everybody in the Eagles locker room and around the league carries a gun, he said, "I do. Yes, I do."

Coach Doug Pederson said that there would not be any immediate discipline as a result of the arrest, and that the plan as of now is for Huff to play Sunday at the New York Giants.

 
Few key things from the ESPN Article:

Huff confirmed that the gun is licensed in Texas, and acknowledged that he wasn't as familiar with the New Jersey laws as he should have been. He said that he felt his life has been threatened in the past, which is why he chooses to carry a gun.

"I'm a professional athlete. What professional athlete don't have a gun?" Huff said.  Asked if he believes if everybody in the Eagles locker room and around the league carries a gun, he said, "I do. Yes, I do."

Coach Doug Pederson said that there would not be any immediate discipline as a result of the arrest, and that the plan as of now is for Huff to play Sunday at the New York Giants.
Wrong thread to be sure, but there's something to be said for Huff's argument here. Regardless of what side of the gun debate you're on, it's insane that we have vastly different gun laws from one locale to another. States rights meant a heck of a lot more in 1800 when it took a couple of days to travel from New York to Baltimore, and the overwhelming number of people never lived in a state other than the one they were born in (or migrated to from Europe) instead of today where you can travel 2000 miles in just a few hours or instantly communicate with anyone virtually anywhere in the world.

 
Wrong thread to be sure, but there's something to be said for Huff's argument here. Regardless of what side of the gun debate you're on, it's insane that we have vastly different gun laws from one locale to another. States rights meant a heck of a lot more in 1800 when it took a couple of days to travel from New York to Baltimore, and the overwhelming number of people never lived in a state other than the one they were born in (or migrated to from Europe) instead of today where you can travel 2000 miles in just a few hours or instantly communicate with anyone virtually anywhere in the world.
Agree 100% and had the exact same thing occur to me when I read the details of Huff's arrest.

But at the same time, it's not like he just got traded here from Texas last week. Dude's been in Philly 3 years, and before that spent a 4-year college career in Oregon, which itself isn't exactly a Second Amendment hotbed. There's a difference between "didn't know" and "didn't give enough of a #### to bother learning", and Huff sounds like he was definitely on the wrong side of that chasm.

 
Really sux they couldn't get a deal done before the deadline. Howie presser at 12:20.

Promote Turner to active roster?

 
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Maybe Huff's mentor Chip Kelly is looking for some high character, culture guys and will give him a job. And Toad Kelly is welcome to Nelso "I can't catch a football but I can grab an ### at a stripclub" Agholar.

 
Maybe Huff's mentor Chip Kelly is looking for some high character, culture guys and will give him a job. And Toad Kelly is welcome to Nelso "I can't catch a football but I can grab an ### at a stripclub" Agholar.
Unless Agholor is released he isn't going anywhere.

 
It means we'll be paying big $$$ to Alshon Jeffrey this offseason....  Not much else out there...  DeSean or Garcon from Washington maybe, they aren't bringing both of them back. 

 
It means we'll be paying big $$$ to Alshon Jeffrey this offseason....  Not much else out there...  DeSean or Garcon from Washington maybe, they aren't bringing both of them back. 
I don't even want Desean back.  I'm just over him.  Jeff would be the dream for sure though, we definitely need some help and hopefully not through the draft.  Don't want another young guy that's gonna take a year or two to develop.  Feel like we can win next season.

 
There's also Terance Williams, although I expect Dallas will resign him.  Michael Floyd from AZ - they picked up his 5th year option, are they going to keep him for that though?  Seems to be getting phased out of their offense.  He would not be a #1, but there aren't a ton of options out there.  Pryor is a FA as well, but I'd expect Cleveland to keep him.

 
how many chip guys do we have left?
Among the guys he drafted (or at least drafted during his tenure), here's the complete list of those who've played for the Birds this year ...


Games


Rk


Player


Year


Age


Draft


Tm


Lg


G


GS


1


Nelson Agholor


2016


23


1-20


PHI


NFL


7


6


2


Jordan Matthews


2016


24


2-42


PHI


NFL


7


6


3


Zach Ertz


2016


26


2-35


PHI


NFL


5


5


4


Bennie Logan


2016


27


3-67


PHI


NFL


5


5


5


Lane Johnson


2016


26


1-4


PHI


NFL


4


4


6


Beau Allen


2016


25


7-224


PHI


NFL


7


2


7


Josh Huff


2016


25


3-86


PHI


NFL


7


2


8


Jaylen Watkins


2016


24


4-101


PHI


NFL


7


1


9


Marcus Smith


2016


24


1-26


PHI


NFL


7


0

... minus Hollowpoint Huff now, of course.

Sproles, I think, is the only one left that Chip acquired via trade. And incoming FAs from the Chip Buys the Groceries Era? Hoo boy. There's Mathews, Carroll, and ... ummmm ... probably one or two more that I'm forgetting, but yeah. Overall not a great look for the ol' Chipper.

 
Among the guys he drafted (or at least drafted during his tenure), here's the complete list of those who've played for the Birds this year ...


Games


Rk


Player


Year


Age


Draft


Tm


Lg


G


GS


1


Nelson Agholor


2016


23


1-20


PHI


NFL


7


6


2


Jordan Matthews


2016


24


2-42


PHI


NFL


7


6


3


Zach Ertz


2016


26


2-35


PHI


NFL


5


5


4


Bennie Logan


2016


27


3-67


PHI


NFL


5


5


5


Lane Johnson


2016


26


1-4


PHI


NFL


4


4


6


Beau Allen


2016


25


7-224


PHI


NFL


7


2


7


Josh Huff


2016


25


3-86


PHI


NFL


7


2


8


Jaylen Watkins


2016


24


4-101


PHI


NFL


7


1


9


Marcus Smith


2016


24


1-26


PHI


NFL


7


0

... minus Hollowpoint Huff now, of course.

Sproles, I think, is the only one left that Chip acquired via trade. And incoming FAs from the Chip Buys the Groceries Era? Hoo boy. There's Mathews, Carroll, and ... ummmm ... probably one or two more that I'm forgetting, but yeah. Overall not a great look for the ol' Chipper.
Jordan Hicks 

 
That is if he isn't tagged by the Bears again which is very likely.
I'm not an insider by any means but everything I've read suggests the Bears are expecting to be without Alshon next year. There's even a conspiracy going around that that's the reason he wasn't getting a ton of targets like usual, that they wanted to bring Kevin White up as he's their future #1.

Even though he is constantly banged up, I'd love to add him to the worst WR corps in all of football.

 
Once again we were the better team and we beat ourselves with horrendous play calling, drops, and poor time management. Deja vu anyone?

 
Terrible coaching/play calling.  Bad QB play. 

Blocked FG actually ends up costing us the game too.  Horrible day, season is over.

Atlanta will beat us by 30.

 
Once again we were the better team and we beat ourselves with horrendous play calling, drops, and poor time management. Deja vu anyone?
At some point when this keeps happening you have to accept you're not the better team.  The rookie QB and coach are both acting like rookies.  They both have to show they can learn and grow and improve.  The receivers are still a hot mess, though today was an improvement for them.  The defense is only at good as the line, and today they disappeared for too much of the game.  There's potential there, and I thought they could take advantage of this garbage division this year, but for now with their inconsistencies, they're part of the garbage.  So yeah, I've given up on this season with playoffs but not for watching them grow and build.

 
I've never seen a franchise so reactionary. One day the owner has his arm around an arrested player, the next--he's canned. The week before the team goes completely conservative and the next they act like they are playing Tecmo Bowl. 

Hard to to figure out...

 
Terrible coaching/play calling.  Bad QB play. 

Blocked FG actually ends up costing us the game too.  Horrible day, season is over.

Atlanta will beat us by 30.
Lighten up Francis. 

They'll bounce back and beat Atlanta because it's at home. But this team looks a lot more like who we thought they were. 7-9, 8-8 with a rookie QB getting his first taste of the league.

My concern is with Doug making all these mental mistakes the last few weeks.

 
GAMES DECIDED BY LESS THAN ONE SCORE:  0-4
(losses by 1, 7, 6, 5)

GAMES DECIDED BY MORE THAN ONE SCORE:  4-0
(wins by 19, 15, 31, 11)

 

 
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You guys are giving the receivers a pass. I agree that they didn't have a lot of egregious drops. But there were plenty of plays to be made where they just didn't come through. Play calling was awful, definitely the major problem. Defense dd the best they could. Tight ends did great. WR didn't make tough plays. Yes Carson was inaccurate but you have to bail him out when his throw isn't money. DGB blows. No catches on how many targets? Most of them key concersions we needed. Cut him!

 
Missed the game.  wtf happened?  I can see we made a run late.  I'm more interested how we got that down.  and Eli threw 4 tds?  cmon

 
Back to back road games against divisional rivals coming off byes, both with winning records....two close losses.

All is not lost. It ain't pretty, but it's not lost

 
Missed the game.  wtf happened?  I can see we made a run late.  I'm more interested how we got that down.  and Eli threw 4 tds?  cmon
Carson threw high and tossed 2 picks right off the bat.  Put us in a big hole.

We clawed back slowly but Doug went for it on 4th and short in FG range TWICE, and failed both times.  Hit either of those FGs and we win the game (we were in FG range at end of game and would have only been down 2)

Also got a FG blocked. 

Brutal.

 
Back to back road games against divisional rivals coming off byes, both with winning records....two close losses.

All is not lost. It ain't pretty, but it's not lost
we are just the least-clutch team ever.  So frustrating when all our wins are convincing wins, and anytime we are in a close game we NEVER get the win.  0-4 in 1 possession games is brutal especially when we're 4-0 in 2+ possession games.  Absolutely no finish.

 

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