*Official 2016 Philadelphia Eagles* - The year of Change (1 Viewer)

[Amused to Death]

Gekko also nailed it...let's say you're a free agent and you have similar offers from a few teams including the Eagles...you really going to sign with the team that might trade you 2 months later? Especially if these guys have kids and a family they probably don't like the idea of waking up one day and now your job is in another city across the country. This is a bad precedent to set.

My prediction...I think he will stay in Philly and actually do well. Would love to see what he could do in Denver with a good line and WR's though.

I didn't read Gekko's essay but there is no team in the league that will guarantee you won't be traded.  Like I said, situations change daily and teams will always do what they think is best for the team.  Always.  Players are commodities and have always been treated as such.  No NFL player has security outside of Tom Brady. They are all on 1 year deals.

And let's not lose sight of the fact Bradford signed his short term deal before the start of free agency and turned down better offers from the Eagles just last season.  He and his agent have mishandled his contract on many fronts.  Now they are trying to make up for bad decisions.  That's on them.

I asked you up thread for a link outside of Philly that blames the team for this mess. You said national perception was the team was at fault.

 

[Amused to Death]

Gekko also nailed it...let's say you're a free agent and you have similar offers from a few teams including the Eagles...you really going to sign with the team that might trade you 2 months later? Especially if these guys have kids and a family they probably don't like the idea of waking up one day and now your job is in another city across the country. This is a bad precedent to set.

My prediction...I think he will stay in Philly and actually do well. Would love to see what he could do in Denver with a good line and WR's though.

Question for you; let's say he's dealt to Denver and they re-do his contract.  Next season Denver is in position to get the #1 QB who they believe has more upside than Bradford.  If its financially feasible, do you think they say "Gee I wish we could draft this guy but alas, we may upset Sam".

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I'm not referring to all fans, just the fanboys that echo whatever they hear on sports radio. The ones who have accepted Bradford as a fall guy for last season. 

I said they "want to run him out of town", not that they actually are. When I say that they want to run him out of town, I mean they want him traded. Got it?

I assume that this is all trolling, but I am quite sure that I have literally never heard a single person say this.

 

[Amused to Death]

I don't have a link. I'm going off comments on articles reporting the deal. I'm just saying overall I think nationally a higher % of people understand where Bradford is coming from compared to Philly. It's not that important anyway.

Okay situations change daily and no one will guarantee you won't be traded. So you think free agents will view this situation in a vacuum and not even think about it when contemplating signing in Philly? I think it might cross their minds. Maybe influence some decisions.

You seem to be insinuating I'm wrong that this might turn some players away from Philly. 

Do you think some guys will turn down going to Cleveland if they have a similar offer from somewhere else? Why would they if Cleveland just does what they think is best,

Travis Benjamin said he was leaving Cleveland because he wanted to play for a winner. No one raked him over the coals. Maybe Sam wants to play for a winner and he thought that is the direction the Eagles were heading, and now with the trade it looks like they're more focused on rebuilding rather than winning now. So now he wants out. Situations change daily and players should do what is best for them right now.

You can't excuse the Eagles double speak by saying "situations change daily" and then say well Sam should have thought about this last year or 2 months ago. His situation changed and now he will do what he feels is best for him. 

First, I don't believe the typical fan reaction was "good for Travis, he deserves to play for a winner".  Second, he left as a free agent - imagine the reaction if he said "I know you just paid me $11mil, but I've decided I want to play for Pittsburgh".  

As for the free agent angle, yes I think its a non-issue.  Players know its a business and they are only chess pieces.  Every team operates this way.  You're naive if you think otherwise.

 

[Amused to Death]

You must be missing out on the unintentional comedy gold that is Philly sports radio. I've heard it numerous times.

Ah, I see the problem now......

 

[unckeyherb]

You must be missing out on the unintentional comedy gold that is Philly sports radio. I've heard it numerous times.

You've heard, numerous times, on Philly sports Radio that Bradford is the reason for the poor team performance last season?  Bull ####.  What show?  I jump between 97.5 and 94.1 all day and I have never heard any hosts or callers single Bradford out as the sole reason or fall guy for the bad season.  

 

[unckeyherb]

Thank you. I think that is different from just wanting to be unchallenged

huh?  he said, "If you’re on a two year contract and the second pick in the draft is behind you, then you better really play well because you’re going to hear it from the fans if you don’t. You better play well or your teammates are going to look at you sideways and wonder about when the next guy is going to step in... Sam would like to forego that."  

That's exactly what 'wanting to be unchallenged' looks like.  

Sam would like to forego that.  Give me a break.  I'd like a ####### from Kristi Turlington.

 

[Amused to Death]

Ok I get it now.

Questioning the Eagles front office is blasphemy. Every franchise operates exactly the same, as proof just check out the Eagles trophy case. They always do what is best. You're naive to think otherwise

Sam Bradford is a total #####. If the Eagles want to go QB crazy and the rest of the team sucks he should just shut up and pretend he likes it. That's what men do these days. 

Anything else I missed?

Besides the entire point?  Nope.

We question the front office all the time.  You really think teams consider the players' feelings and let that dictate how they draft??  They always do what THEY THINK is best.  QB is the most important player on the team.  When you have a chance to get the guy you THINK will be your starter for the next decade, you don't worry about how players like Sam Bradford will react.

Now that we've completely beaten this to death, we'll agree to disagree.

 

[unckeyherb]

 Cataldi, Innes, Anthony Gorgano (or whatever his name is) shows mostly. All I hear is about how we need a franchise QB and Sam isn't it. Rarely ever hear about addressing why the Eagles gave up 40+ points to some of the worst offense in the league. It's all QB driven mania.

FTR I can't stand Innes or Mikey Miss, sometimes I can't listen to either. I prefer sports radio a lot of the time and just pick the lesser of 2 evils. The only show I actually like is Mike & Ike. 

That's different than what you said earlier

 

[Insein]

I'm not referring to all fans, just the fanboys that echo whatever they hear on sports radio. The ones who have accepted Bradford as a fall guy for last season. 

I said they "want to run him out of town", not that they actually are. When I say that they want to run him out of town, I mean they want him traded. Got it?

Got it. So Bradford is a dupe since Bradford wants Bradford traded the most.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I'm going to give you my mock for the Eagles.  Feel free to agree or disagree.  I'm going to add a few players to particular spots as well. 

1st Round #2 Overall- Carson Wentz- I'm pumped that our QB position now has talent and some hope.  I'm even more excited that he comes to an ideal situation where he will not be thrust into a starting role until he earns it. 

3rd Round #79 Overall- CJ Prosise/ Jordan Howard- I really like what Ive watched from both of these guys and think theyre going to be very good pros if they get the right opportunity.  With Matthews injury history and Sproles aging and not being an everydown RB the need is there.  By season end either one of these guys would be our starting RB.  **I do expect this pick to be traded back for a later 3 and a 4 as well but I think we still land one of these 2 guys

5th Round #153 Overall-  Basically a WR Braxton MIller/ Charone Peake (could be gone but if we get a 4 could be there) then Demarcus Robonson/ Robby Anderson-- Ive been saying for a while now that we need playmakers and after addressing the needs we did in FA we're in a good position to pick a guy at all 3 spots.  This pick will probably be to late for Miler or Peak due to their talent but if we can get a 4 from flipping #79 back I'd like to see one of them added. 

5th round #164 Overall- OL- This late I don't have a name in mind and I usually don't watch a lot of OL unless we're going to pick one early.

6th Round #188 , 7th Round 233rd & 7th Round 251st Overall-- See the above...keep adding OL and one will stick IMO.  IF a Jaylon Smith or a Shawn Oakman are available pick them with one of these picks.  The reward would far outweigh the risk IMO

Come on. Draft day coming up, anyone else got one? 

 

[Amused to Death]

It is pointless because you just keep insinuating things I never said and twisting my words. 

I said the trade was dumb because there is too many other holes that need to be filled. You turned that into they shouldn't draft Wentz because it will hurt Sam's feelings. 

No, I started my conversation with you because you insinuated the fans were trying to run Bradford out of town.  You went on to say fans have made Bradford the fall guy for last year.  Then you said the national perception was that the team was in the wrong and have mistreated SB. You also said that future free agents might not want to sign in Philly because of their treatment of Bradford.

I've disputed all of it.

 

[JuniorNB]

That is now, I heard plenty of blame for last season put on Bradford by hosts and callers. Frankly I don't think Bradford had much to do with the teams failures at all. So any blame put on him is wrong. Are you telling me you heard no one blame him at all for last season? In a lot of people's minds, he was the fall guy, and they should have kept Foles and never got him. 

I heard a lot of people say that Bradford sucks and that we should have never traded for him. But I also heard that Murray sucks. Kiko sucks. Maxwell sucks. Chip's play calling sucks.....I didn't hear one person try to put the blame on Bradford. You've been wrong with every single point you've tried to make today. That's not easy to do.

 

[modogg]

I know in the long term it's not a competition but his best move was still to keep his (and his agent's) mouth shut in public play well in 2016 to make himself a viable option next offseason. 

Bradford's play last year was uneven, there were some encouraging games but he was also a turnover machine at times.  I think he had more help around him than you give credit for as well.  The Eagles have holes, but they're no worse than average talent wise, IMO.

On the competition point, he does seem to think there's teams out there willing to commit to him as a long term starter.  I just don't think there is at this point, and won't be until he can show consistently above average play for at least a full season.  He's never done that.

Could he?  Sure.  Rich Gannon comes to mind as a guy who did next to nothing until he was older than Bradford then had almost 10 years of really good play.  That's the kind of turnaround he'd need to pull off though.

all I want is Bradford to be traded so we can have his name out of this thread at least for 1 day. it is close to unbearable. but since I am adding to that, I will continue. We have discussed it here before, but his numbers when looked at closely really do not show anything special. it is easy to look at total numbers over the season, or even pick some games, but watching film tells another story. He had a lot of completions to backs who got him a lot of the yards he earned, he had some games with good numbers against some really bad secondaries (e.g. 1st Was game when they were down their #1, 2 and maybe 3 CBs), etc. Sure he had some moments that were good, but I don't believe he had 1 game that he played well in all 4 quarters (can say the same thing about the team as a whole so not all on Sam).

but for me, we can't get rid of this guy fast enough, if just for the simple reason that we have to have pages, and pages of the same conversation

 

[JuniorNB]

Come on. Draft day coming up, anyone else got one? 

I like your choices, although I'd like them to go offensive lineman in round 3.  I think we need to seriously address the line.

I think with Mathews and Sproles, we'd be ok getting a free agent back and go with the three of them, plus hope that Barner progresses.  Maybe kick the tires on Arian Foster?  Or even Joique Bell or Shawn Draughns. 

And if Braxton Miller is available in the 5th, I'd love to have him.

 

[JuniorNB]

Delete button doesn't work, but the backspace button does. You have to do one text box at a time. erase it all, then click into the next box.

 

[unckeyherb]

That is now, I heard plenty of blame for last season put on Bradford by hosts and callers. Frankly I don't think Bradford had much to do with the teams failures at all. So any blame put on him is wrong. Are you telling me you heard no one blame him at all for last season? In a lot of people's minds, he was the fall guy, and they should have kept Foles and never got him. 

Are you asking me if people have said that he was part of the problem?  If so, then yes and I agree.  You said that you've heard numerous shows and callers make him the fall guy.  I'm telling you I've never heard that, because its never happened.  

 

[Amused to Death]

Peter King nails it on MMQB:

What I would say to Bradford:

1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out.

2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it.

3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you.

4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.

In the same article, PK compares this situation to when the Cardinals had Kurt Warner and drafted Matt Leinert.  The better QB usually wins the job.  Just go be the competitor you claim to be and stop #####ing.

 

[Bri]

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[JuniorNB]

Peter King nails it on MMQB:

What I would say to Bradford:

1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out.

2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it.

3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you.

4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.

In the same article, PK compares this situation to when the Cardinals had Kurt Warner and drafted Matt Leinert.  The better QB usually wins the job.  Just go be the competitor you claim to be and stop #####ing.

Kurt Warner is a man and not a sniveling sissy. Great example.

 

[massraider]

Gekko also nailed it...let's say you're a free agent and you have similar offers from a few teams including the Eagles...you really going to sign with the team that might trade you 2 months later? Especially if these guys have kids and a family they probably don't like the idea of waking up one day and now your job is in another city across the country. This is a bad precedent to set.

Yes, that would totally suck.  Oh, wait:  SAM BRADFORD IS ASKING FOR A TRADE

So if the Eagles fulfil his request, and give him WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR, then other free agents will not want to sign with them.  

That's how Gekko nailed it??  

Eagles signed him to a contract, he asks to be traded, they traded him:  Hey!  Don't sign with these losers, they might trade you........if you ask them too.

Copy that.

 

[massraider]

Right and the Cardinals payed $50 million dollars to their back up QB and lost the Super Bowl with Warner. Maybe if they weren't spending so much money on the back up or take a useful player other than Leinart they win. And they didn't have to give up so many other picks to get Leinart. 

I guess we just view this differently. Even if Bradford does great and wins the job, the rest of the team is worse because of everything you did to get your #2 and #3 QB. 

What does this have to with anything?  Bradford doesn't approve of the front office, so he doesn't have to do his job?

 

[JuniorNB]

seriously I don't even care anymore 

Take care now. Come back soon.

 

[unckeyherb]

seriously I don't even care anymore 

smell ya later!

 

[massraider]

seriously I don't even care anymore 

Solid argument.  You win.

 

[Deamon]

LOl  I bet Howie's phone is ringing off the hook.

Says the guy who says he is worth at least a 2nd round pick. 

 

[Deamon]

Could you please show me a link where he demands to be the unchallenged starter?

His argument is loaded.  Suddenly a guy whose replacement has been hired, has been pretty much told/shown that this is a 1 year (if that) deal and then he's gone, a guy who has to risk his body and time learning a new offense just to 100% be cut the next year, is "demanding to be the unchallenged starter".   The teams future QB has been drafted, this is not a 'competition'.  But calling it a competition fits his agenda of being able to make a false generalization about a player he defended until his agent said one thing to the media and he decided he would suddenly hate his personality and his play. 

 

[Deamon]

He was already named starter. He didn't like that they were bringing in a rookie to compete. A total p**sy move. So wherever he goes, he wants to be named the starter and have no challengers for that position for the duration of his two year contract. Pretty cut and dried, son. Unless you have a different take.    Even those who say they don't blame Sam for being angry know he wants out because they're drafting someone who can replace him. That's called running away from a challenge.  That's why he'd need to go to Denver or the Jets. Or San Fran if they get rid of Kaepernick.  He doesn't have the confidence or mental toughness to be challenged for the job. He needs it given to him.

Again, you're the only person who has suggested that this is a 'competition' or a 'challenge'.  Wentz is our future... you're blind or trolling if you don't see that.  He's not fighting for a long term job in Philly and you know that.

 

[JuniorNB]

Says the guy who says he is worth at least a 2nd round pick. 

He just might be. To a very,  very limited amount of teams. Three to be exact. Although I highly doubt the Jets would trade for him.when they could just resign Fitz. Two teams. Although the Niners have Kaep. One team. Denver. Cross your fingers. 

 

[Deamon]

Exactly. Hell, ask any of the regulars in this Eagles thread. I was probably Bradford's biggest supporter. I supported him all of last season, wanted them to resign him, and hoped they'd be drafting a tackle to protect him. I also had hoped that he'd finally realize his potential and lead the Eagles to a great 2016 season. And I surely didn't care if both he and Wentz turned out to be studs and we ended up trading one of them. I just severely overestimated him as a man. Can't believe a former #1 overall pick is scared to compete with a current number #2 overall. Just goes to show you how far his confidence has fallen. It's pretty hard to get a team to believe in you when you don't even believe in yourself.

Why would you want a guy that you've been calling a major bust all week to be your starter next year?  You've said over and over this week how he's a bust, has never done anything, yet thought he would lead us to a great 2016 season?  The amount of people in here with their panties in a knot just because of not wanting to be a stepping stone is insane.  At least Insane hated him all along.... just don't go saying he's good and then bashing his on the field play.  His one statement doesn't change his on the field talent but you have allowed that to happen in your mind.

And again, you're completely alone here thinking that this is actually a competition he has a shot to win.  It doesn't matter where he was picked in 2010... Wentz is the future here I'm not sure how you still don't get that.

 

[Deamon]

He just might be. To a very,  very limited amount of teams. Three to be exact. Although I highly doubt the Jets would trade for him.when they could just resign Fitz. Two teams. Although the Niners have Kaep. One team. Denver. Cross your fingers. 

We're all hoping he's traded tomorrow.  THAT we can agree on.

If he stays I can't even imagine the anger at him all season for missing 2 days of workouts.  His ship has sailed in Philly...  maybe that's his fault... probably is.  But if it helps him get to a better situation and helps the team I love then I'm all for it. 

 

[modogg]

Aside from Chip Kelly, I can't think of anyone who got as much flak as Bradford. And at times of the season I think SB was getting more of the blame than Chip. So yeah he was the fall guy for some people. 

Demarco Murray and Maxwell got a ton worse then Bradford ever got. whole receiving corp was constantly getting dumped on too. Really wasn't many things that didn't get flak from the team last year, and when you lose a few games by 30+ points ( I believe that was the scores in the Det and TB games) it is hard to find positive.

funny thing still is if they had a legit/healthy kicker for the first 5 games I think they would have been 4-1 or something

 

[JuniorNB]

Why would you want a guy that you've been calling a major bust all week to be your starter next year?  You've said over and over this week how he's a bust, has never done anything, yet thought he would lead us to a great 2016 season?  The amount of people in here with their panties in a knot just because of not wanting to be a stepping stone is insane.  At least Insane hated him all along.... just don't go saying he's good and then bashing his on the field play.  His one statement doesn't change his on the field talent but you have allowed that to happen in your mind.

And again, you're completely alone here thinking that this is actually a competition he has a shot to win.  It doesn't matter where he was picked in 2010... Wentz is the future here I'm not sure how you still don't get that.

My opinion on Bradford, the player, hasn't changed. He's been horribly underachieving his entire career. Once in a while he flashes and you can see why scouts loved him. But it was always short-lived because of injuries. I thought he looked good the last 7 starts of last year. I was glad the Eagles resigned him. I liked the contract because it paid him well in hopes that his Improvement trend of last year continued to this coming season, plus it wasn't long-term in case another injury set him back again. Yes, he has been a bust so far. He was the number one overall pick of the draft and has never won more than seven games. I think everyone in the world would agree that is a bust for a first overall pick QB. That being said, unlike guys like JaMarcus Russell and Joey Harrington, his reasons for being a disappointment aren't all related to his talent. Knowing the percentage of quarterbacks that actually hit in the NFL, I do not assume that Bradford can't be a better player then Wentz if he can actually stay healthy. But Bradford does apparently.

 

[Insein]

I never said that. 

 

[Pickle Rody]

Ya know, if Bradford was worried about injuring himself and curbing his future earning potential, maybe he shouldn't play football. His choice. But hey, this is the profession he's chosen.

He turned down a mega contract last year so he could prove his worth (after 2 prior knee injuries.) He signed a contract this offseason without exploring his options in free agency. He was named (and still is, according to Roseman) the clear cut starter in 2016. Daniel was signed as a pricey backup just in case Bradford became brittle again.

There has been absolutely zero talk of a QB competition coming down the pike in training camp. Bradford really doesn't have to "compete" for the starting role....he has already been handed it. If he wanted a chance to play for a team that wants him around long term he should have tested the waters in free agency. He was a fool to think the contract he just signed was anything more than what it appeared to be....another prove it deal. Okay, go prove yourself. Make the Eagles a championship team that will seriously question getting rid of you, even though they're gonna draft a (your) future replacement. 

Another thing. If I'm one of the other 31 GM's right now, I want nothing to do with you. The second you think we're looking to solidify the position for the future you'll cry like a ##### and demand a trade. Eff that.

 

[Deamon]

My opinion on Bradford, the player, hasn't changed. He's been horribly underachieving his entire career. Once in a while he flashes and you can see why scouts loved him. But it was always short-lived because of injuries. I thought he looked good the last 7 starts of last year. I was glad the Eagles resigned him. I liked the contract because it paid him well in hopes that his Improvement trend of last year continued to this coming season, plus it wasn't long-term in case another injury set him back again. Yes, he has been a bust so far. He was the number one overall pick of the draft and has never won more than seven games. I think everyone in the world would agree that is a bust for a first overall pick QB. That being said, unlike guys like JaMarcus Russell and Joey Harrington, his reasons for being a disappointment aren't all related to his talent. Knowing the percentage of quarterbacks that actually hit in the NFL, I do not assume that Bradford can't be a better player then Wentz if he can actually stay healthy. But Bradford does apparently.

You're in the minority that think Wentz isn't a lock to be this teams future QB.  WHen you give that much up, he's your guy.  They've done everything but throw the guy a parade.... wait until after tomorrow night once it's official and you'll see the kind of love fest the team and city will have for Wentz.  That's a really $hitty situation to be in for a QB in front of that who is trying to settle in somewhere.  Ya ya ya, #1 pick.  Ya ya ya overpaid.  Ya ya ya he signed the deal.  He's going to risk injury, learn a whole new system, as he's slowly walking off a plank in Philly.  I'm excited as anyone is for Wentz, I think he can be special and I'm sure he's our guy going forward no matter how well Sam does this year. 

The only thing I can fault him for his maybe going public but I want to hear his reasons for that first... and really it's a freakin voluntary workout...  "Not Practice.  Not Practice.  We talkin' bout a WORKOUT.  A Workout, man"

 

[unckeyherb]

This never happened

 I don't get it. That article points to Bradford and the running backs and the wide receivers and Chip Kelly's system as being reasons for the bad season. And for what it's worth Byron Maxwell and his ole  moves in Lieu of tackling took way way way more heat than anything Bradford had to go thru.

 

[jasvic]

 I don't get it. That article points to Bradford and the running backs and the wide receivers and Chip Kelly's system as being reasons for the bad season. And for what it's worth Byron Maxwell and his ole  moves in Lieu of tackling took way way way more heat than anything Bradford had to go thru.

Plus that article was written in October.

 

[Ash]

Again, you're the only person who has suggested that this is a 'competition' or a 'challenge'.  Wentz is our future... you're blind or trolling if you don't see that.  He's not fighting for a long term job in Philly and you know that.

He's not fighting for a long term job in Philly, agree.  He is fighting for a long term job in the NFL though.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Come on. Draft day coming up, anyone else got one? 

I think the rb picks would be good.  Not sure about a project wr in the 5th.  I think we need someone who might be closer to playing given our lack of picks.  I saw one mock with us getting an lb from Oklahoma.  We could probably use a lb.

definitely agree with targeting an OL, but as I posted a couple days ago, that position seems awfully thin in the third and fourth rounds.

 

[Ash]

I think the rb picks would be good.  Not sure about a project wr in the 5th.  I think we need someone who might be closer to playing given our lack of picks.  I saw one mock with us getting an lb from Oklahoma.  We could probably use a lb.

definitely agree with targeting an OL, but as I posted a couple days ago, that position seems awfully thin in the third and fourth rounds.

Any of OL, DL (very thin, especially DT) and RB I think is a good idea if the value is there.  LB depth is needed too.  If there's a CB with starting potential in the 3rd, I wouldn't hate that either.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

What does this have to with anything?  Bradford doesn't approve of the front office, so he doesn't have to do his job?

Huh?  Obviously getting a different player with the leinart pick would have translated to 5 points in the super bowl.  Or prevented one of the greatest pressure throws and catch in the history of football.

besides, wasn't Warner kind of an afterthought at that point after flailing in ny?  And his Renaissance was pretty surprising?

 

[bostonfred]

Is the assumption that Pedersen is going to run an Andy Reid offense?  Curious if they make a move for Knile Davis while he's being shopped by the Chiefs. 

 

[Insein]

Is the assumption that Pedersen is going to run an Andy Reid offense?  Curious if they make a move for Knile Davis while he's being shopped by the Chiefs. 

They might just wait to see if Andy cuts him. Seems to be a crowded backfield. 

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Is the assumption that Pedersen is going to run an Andy Reid offense?  Curious if they make a move for Knile Davis while he's being shopped by the Chiefs. 

nobody really knows much, but yes that seems to be the conventional wisdom right now.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

tooling around drafthistory.com and ran across the name of Chris Gocong.  I'm pretty sure I had completely erased him from my memory.  #######it.

 

[Insein]

tooling around drafthistory.com and ran across the name of Chris Gocong.  I'm pretty sure I had completely erased him from my memory.  #######it.

Wasn't Bloom in that same draft?

 

[Domination]

I'm going to give you my mock for the Eagles.  Feel free to agree or disagree.  I'm going to add a few players to particular spots as well. 

1st Round #2 Overall- Carson Wentz- I'm pumped that our QB position now has talent and some hope.  I'm even more excited that he comes to an ideal situation where he will not be thrust into a starting role until he earns it. 

3rd Round #79 Overall- CJ Prosise/ Jordan Howard- I really like what Ive watched from both of these guys and think theyre going to be very good pros if they get the right opportunity.  With Matthews injury history and Sproles aging and not being an everydown RB the need is there.  By season end either one of these guys would be our starting RB.  **I do expect this pick to be traded back for a later 3 and a 4 as well but I think we still land one of these 2 guys

5th Round #153 Overall-  Basically a WR Braxton MIller/ Charone Peake (could be gone but if we get a 4 could be there) then Demarcus Robonson/ Robby Anderson-- Ive been saying for a while now that we need playmakers and after addressing the needs we did in FA we're in a good position to pick a guy at all 3 spots.  This pick will probably be to late for Miler or Peak due to their talent but if we can get a 4 from flipping #79 back I'd like to see one of them added. 

5th round #164 Overall- OL- This late I don't have a name in mind and I usually don't watch a lot of OL unless we're going to pick one early.

6th Round #188 , 7th Round 233rd & 7th Round 251st Overall-- See the above...keep adding OL and one will stick IMO.  IF a Jaylon Smith or a Shawn Oakman are available pick them with one of these picks.  The reward would far outweigh the risk IMO

https://nflspinzone.com/2016/04/26/philadelphia-eagles-7-round-mock-draft-post-trade/

If the draft went down like this I would be incredibly happy. As I think it adds depth and potential at multiple key positions.

fyi: news must be improving, as McShay is now reporting that Jaylon Smith will not make it out of the 3rd & could go as high as the 2nd.

 

[Deamon]

Is the assumption that Pedersen is going to run an Andy Reid offense?  Curious if they make a move for Knile Davis while he's being shopped by the Chiefs. 

I found it strange to see the article today about Knile being shopped.  Pretty sure they released that info about 2 months ago.  With Charles/West/Ware, Knile is going to be cut.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Well they could have taken Santonio Holmes instead of Leinart, you think that might have changed the game a little?

lol