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Official 2016 Pittsburgh Steelers Thread (1 Viewer)
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Oh, look at Mr. Fancy Pants Merritt Island!Not very often. I moved into a fairly wealthy enclave away from the riff raff.
steelers1080
Footballguy
What if they never thought Jackson or Billings were any good and just tricked their arch rivals? That would be priceless.
I think based on who's left we should take a LB and WR at least with our last 3 picks.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
They absolutely need to get at least one LB. Their depth is non-existent there.
Based on how quickly the Steelers made their selections I think it's not only possible but likely. But when Bengals pick two players linked to Steelers in a lot of drafts and add a Pitt Panther I just can't help but think THEY think they got one over on the Steelers, like the Ravens thought they did last year with Max Williams.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I'll take Scooby all day, any day at this spot.
3C's
Footballguy
Gerry Dulac @gerrydulac 50m50 minutes ago
Steelers tried to trade into the fifth round to get a RB or even QB, but all the guys they liked were taken.
Steelers tried to trade into the fifth round to get a RB or even QB, but all the guys they liked were taken.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Holmes and DJ White gone. :(
steelers1080
Footballguy
They did put in all of their picks really quickly. I'm not sure if it's because we had those guys ranked way higher, or if it was just their board. They like to say that there's really no debate on draft day. When it's their turn it's already a forgone conclusion who they'll take since they just go by the board.menobrown said:
A lot of people are saying that the Steelers reached on players for need (I think it looks like they did too) but if you believe them, they just had these players ranked higher than most other people and it wasn't based "purely" on need.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Wonder if they wanted Paul Perkins or Alex Collins, and if they wanted Nate Sudfield.
Who is left who we want? Scooby (thought he'd be gone in round 3), Driskel, Jeremy Cash (HOW IS HE STILL HERE?!), Kenny Lawler, Charone Peake, Matakevich. Also, Keith Marshall? He got injured in college, but he's crazy fast and shows flashes of talent.
Anyone else not excited about playing Kenneth Dixon twice a year? Ugh.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I vote Scooby or Jeremy Cash.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Or Charon Peake if his knees check out. He's got loads of talent, but 2 knee injuries... and some drops.
3C's
Footballguy
Strange he's dropped so far. High(ish) grade and round 3 on nfl.com Nice size/speed combo though.
pghrob
Footballguy
Maybe a late pick trade for buried guy on some team'so depth chart? A guy like Tom Savage? Brian Hoyer? Maybe players like those guys will become free agents between now and training camp.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Two more projects. Feeney has phenomenal athleticism but is going to have to add 15 pounds of muscle to have a prayer. I thought maybe they were going to move him inside to cover him up, but Porter says no. OLB. I don't see it right now.
Ayers had great productivity but he's 5' 9", 180 and ran 4.7 at the combine. If he makes the roster, it will be as a kick returner.
Ayers had great productivity but he's 5' 9", 180 and ran 4.7 at the combine. If he makes the roster, it will be as a kick returner.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I give up on us trying to find a game breaking returner. We always miss. This is another miss. He has no chance. Wasted pick.
*reverse jinx!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I love the Matakevich pick. LOVE it. OK, he may be Rudy Ruettiger, but how can you not root for this guy? I think he's going to make the team.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Probably, but devil's advocate is that at least he's not just a 4.3 guy, he's a very accomplished returner with open field vision. I don't know if he's fast enough to break off a lot of TD returns, but he could be a guy that can catch the ball reliably, make one or two guys miss, and enhance field position. And get AB off of the punt return team for good. I don't know if that's enough for a roster spot, though. He'd have to be able to contribute on coverage teams and also play the slot in a pinch if he's going to get the WR5 spot. With Bryant suspended, that's a wide open position though, he'll be competing with the Shakim Phillips' of the world, so he has a puncher's chance at least.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Matakevich easily my favorite pick of this draft.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Woo! Matakevich!
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Really like BOTH LB picks. Fenney may never be more than a "big Nickel S/LB", but those are quite valuable in today's NFL. He can do some work in subs and be an asset on teams? That's totally valuable from a 6th rounder. Matakevich is just one of those guys that finds the ball. He's short, he's slow, and he's not that strong....but he does nothing other than make plays vs. run and pass. Hard to hate on that from a 7th rounder.
Ayers is pretty much a throw away in an attempt to get Tony Brown off returns from where I'm sitting. If it works, great. If it doesn't, it was a 7th so who cares? This is where you take shots on guys who can only do one thing and not in the third(Looking at you, Dri).
Ayers is pretty much a throw away in an attempt to get Tony Brown off returns from where I'm sitting. If it works, great. If it doesn't, it was a 7th so who cares? This is where you take shots on guys who can only do one thing and not in the third(Looking at you, Dri).
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3C's
Footballguy
ebsteelers
Footballguy
i like the overall draft... really like tyler, motor guy will be good on special teams... ayers,, i cant seem them just keeping him as a punt returner, hes gonna have to do something at wr to stick
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
He returned kickoffs earlier in his career, and effectively, before moving to PR. He was 1st team all-conference KR his freshman year.
3C's
Footballguy
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Brian Hoyer just signed with the Bears. 
3C's
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
IF he can stay healthy...3C's said:
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He has to flash more then he has. That ROLB spot is possibly our biggest non-QB position on the entire team.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yep. The Steelers can still negotiate with him if they want to and in the unlikely chance that he finally has a breakout season they can franchise him.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I'm really hoping that Jarvis Jones has a fantastic year. In 2014 he seemed off to a great start before he messed up his wrist. He's also very solid as a run stopper. If he can somehow turn into a viable pass rusher this offseason and generate 6-8 sacks this year I think we should resign him to a reasonable deal. Having him, Dupree, and a pass rushing specialist could be a good rotation as Dupree seems like the real deal against the Run and Pass.
Maybe Feeney can be that specialist for us?
Maybe Feeney can be that specialist for us?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
The OLB spot has absolutely no depth beyond '16. Moats is JAG and likely gone in a year, Silverback is done after this season, Jarvis likely is headed elsewhere. Not much of note on the practice squad. Beyond this year, it's Dupree and that's about it. FO is going to have to pull some rabbits out of a hat this off season.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Assuming they hope one of the rabbits is Feeney.
But, yeah. And it won't be just depth come '17 if Jones leaves. They'll need someone starter quality.
But, yeah. And it won't be just depth come '17 if Jones leaves. They'll need someone starter quality.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Probably re-sign Jones. Who is gonna pay for what he's done? (That just means he has a 10+ sack year.)
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I assume so too, but I just don't see it. When his name was called, I was thinking he might be a safety/ILB hybrid, not a 3-4 end. He's 225 pounds and doesn't have a huge variety of moves. Good in coverage but can't set the edge. I'm really not sold on his ability to hold down one of those spots.
3C's
Footballguy
Yeah, unless they have other options Jones will be back. They're just taking that he won't blow up and cause them to have to pony up big bucks. If he underperforms the $8M they would have owed they make out okay.
I stood next to Jarvis during camp last year. He's definitely not 225 now. 240 is more like it. He showed some progress but not enough to warrant $8m. Good against the run, not enough pass rush. I'm still hopeful but like Cortez Allen (who I was also hopeful for) this is it.
I stood next to Jarvis during camp last year. He's definitely not 225 now. 240 is more like it. He showed some progress but not enough to warrant $8m. Good against the run, not enough pass rush. I'm still hopeful but like Cortez Allen (who I was also hopeful for) this is it.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I hope he does, it would mean good things for the Steelers 2016 season.
If Jones has a mediocre season they'll likely be able to resign him (assuming they want to) for a reasonable amount. If Jones has a breakout season they can try to negotiate a new contract or franchise him. If he stinks or gets injured they can walk away.
Overall I think they're playing it the best way possible.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Yeah, that sucked. Thought we had a real bargain in the 2nd just like Tuitt.bananafish said:
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Agree. Small guys don't last at 3-4 OLB. I think about 250 is the minimum to be a solid EDGE guy. I'm thinking a backup nickel or dime LB, ST guy and hope he puts on 10-15 lbs to play inside. Let's be honest, he was a late 6th. Not like we're banking on those picks anyways. Hope for the best, and like a lot of this draft, he may turn into something good in a couple years.
