*** Official 2018 San Francisco 49ers thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Wingnut]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/119143-rapoport-jimmy-garoppolo-going-fine-time-season-begins/

Rapoport on Jimmy Garoppolo: ‘He’s going to be fine by the time next season begins’

With Jimmy Garoppolo's season almost certainly done, the focus will soon shift to the quarterback's recovery. NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport jumped on KNBR Monday morning and explained what San Francisco 49ers fans can likely expect as far as a timeline for a return.

During the explanation, Rapoport discussed the recovery of Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, who returned to the football field on Sunday 9 1/2 months after tearing his ACL.

"The Wentz situation is extreme because it was ACL and LCL," Rapoport said. "That's essentially worse-case scenario, and it happened Week 13 or 14."

The injury put Wentz in a cast for about four weeks longer than someone who just suffered a torn ACL would wear one.

"Obviously, no one wants to lose a quarterback for the season," Rapoport said as he started to discuss Garoppolo. "It's all bad. Everything is bad. However, he's going to be fine by the time — absent something crazy happening — he's going to be fine by the time next season begins. Probably even by the time next training camp begins.

"So it's bad, but long term, it's probably something that's going to end up okay."

Rapoport already shared on Good Morning Football that the team is likely to stick with C.J. Beathard as its starter and it would be a shock if it made a significant trade for a quarterback.

"Part of the problem is Beathard is probably a better option than a lot of people," Rapoport said. "First of all, he's got starting experience. He's not bad. I mean, if the team had to move forward with C.J. Beathard, I think it would have been okay. Not as good as Garoppolo, but I think they would have been okay. He knows the system, seems to be a smart, tough guy. So as far as backup plans, it's not a terrible one."

 

[Wingnut]

NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport provided an update Monday morning on injured San Francisco 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman. The good news is that his injury is not long-term. The bad news is that the 49ers, who are likely to receive news on Monday that they will be without starting quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo for the remainder of the season, will be without their veteran cornerback for a few weeks.

Sherman suffered a mild calf strain, according to Rapoport.

Relatively good news for #49ers CB Richard Sherman: He has a mild calf strain, I'm told. Out for a few weeks.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 24, 2018

Also providing an update was Jordan Schultz of ESPN.

Richard Sherman will be out 2-3 weeks with a calf strain, after his MRI, per source. @RSherman_25 #49ers

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) September 24, 2018

Sherman needed assistance to get off of the football field at halftime during Sunday's loss to the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. Head coach Kyle Shanahan told reporters after the game that it was a calf injury but did not have any information beyond that.

Sherman has been targeted by opposing quarterbacks six times in his first season with the 49ers and given up just one reception for 18 yards, according to Pro Football Focus. Quarterbacks have a passer rating of 39.6 while targeting Sherman.

While no injury is good news, fans have to be relieved that the injury is unrelated to Sherman's Achilles injury suffered last November. Sherman will be back on the field for the 49ers this season.

 

[badmojo1006]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/119143-rapoport-jimmy-garoppolo-going-fine-time-season-begins/

Rapoport on Jimmy Garoppolo: ‘He’s going to be fine by the time next season begins’

With Jimmy Garoppolo's season almost certainly done, the focus will soon shift to the quarterback's recovery. NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport jumped on KNBR Monday morning and explained what San Francisco 49ers fans can likely expect as far as a timeline for a return.

During the explanation, Rapoport discussed the recovery of Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, who returned to the football field on Sunday 9 1/2 months after tearing his ACL.

"The Wentz situation is extreme because it was ACL and LCL," Rapoport said. "That's essentially worse-case scenario, and it happened Week 13 or 14."

The injury put Wentz in a cast for about four weeks longer than someone who just suffered a torn ACL would wear one.

"Obviously, no one wants to lose a quarterback for the season," Rapoport said as he started to discuss Garoppolo. "It's all bad. Everything is bad. However, he's going to be fine by the time — absent something crazy happening — he's going to be fine by the time next season begins. Probably even by the time next training camp begins.

"So it's bad, but long term, it's probably something that's going to end up okay."

Rapoport already shared on Good Morning Football that the team is likely to stick with C.J. Beathard as its starter and it would be a shock if it made a significant trade for a quarterback.

"Part of the problem is Beathard is probably a better option than a lot of people," Rapoport said. "First of all, he's got starting experience. He's not bad. I mean, if the team had to move forward with C.J. Beathard, I think it would have been okay. Not as good as Garoppolo, but I think they would have been okay. He knows the system, seems to be a smart, tough guy. So as far as backup plans, it's not a terrible one."

 

[efactor]

Just ####....................

The entertainment value just dropped off the charts.  I can handle the losing, but not when I'm bored too.

Get well Jimmy.  See you next year.  Study hard.  Have the porn stars quiz you on the playbook during your recovery time....................

 

[drummer]

Just ####....................

The entertainment value just dropped off the charts.  I can handle the losing, but not when I'm bored too.

Get well Jimmy.  See you next year.  Study hard.  Have the porn stars quiz you on the playbook during your recovery time....................

Not a good idea. Not where he drafts them 

 

[efactor]

Not a good idea. Not where he drafts them 

Probably true.  I didn't really give that comment much thought.  Was trying to think of a silver lining for Jimmy...................

 

[drummer]

Probably true.  I didn't really give that comment much thought.  Was trying to think of a silver lining for Jimmy...................

If anything, hope that Jimmy puts a jimmy on his little jimmy during “film study” so he doesn’t get a case of the herp with his 7th round draft pick

 

[drummer]

Season over 

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1044301915604086785

“MRI showed what 49ers feared: Jimmy Garoppolo tore his ACL and his season is over, per source.”

 

[GoBirds]

Had no idea Kyle was a fake baker like his pops.......strong bronze game.

 

[drummer]

Had no idea Kyle was a fake baker like his pops.......strong bronze game.

His son’s QB pulled a move that injured him like RG3 too. 

Like father, like son

 

[drummer]

From the “Tell me more, Captain Obvious” file:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/24/49ers-dont-have-many-options-at-quarterback/

“The 49ers for now will elevate C.J. Beathard to the starting lineup, and also potentially promote Nick Mullens from the practice squad to the 53-man roster. The fact that they’re reportedly working out Tom Savage suggests that they’re at least willing to look elsewhere.

So where else could they look? They can sign a free agent, pluck a player from a practice squad, or attempt to pull off a trade. The free-agent options aren’t plentiful, as evidenced by the fact that the name at the top of the call list was Tom Savage.

Other free agents presently on the market include Landry Jones, Paxton Lynch, EJ Manuel, and Colin Kaepernick (that’s technically true), Garrett Grayson, Josh Woodrum, Kyle Allen, Garrett Gilbert, Nic Shimonek, Luis Perez, Bryce Petty, Peter Pujals, J.T. Barrett, Joe Callahan, Jack Heneghan, Nick Mullens, Austin Allen, Connor Jessop, Matt Barkley, and Austin Davis.

Fifteen quarterbacks currently are on practice squads: Davis Webb (Jets), Danny Etling (Patriots), Christian Hackenberg (Bengals), Phillip Walker(Colts), Tanner Lee (Jaguars), Logan Woodside(Titans), Chase Litton (Chiefs), Cardale Jones(Chargers), Tyler Bray (Bears), Jake Rudock(Lions), Kurt Benkert (Falcons), Connor Cook(Panthers), Brandon Allen (Rams), Alex McGough(Seahawks), and Chad Kanoff (Cardinals).”

 

[drummer]

The NFL needs more quarterbacks named Josh. 

And there's always Brogan Roback. He'd at least keep the QB trailer well stocked with junk food.

And less named Eli or Colt

 

[drummer]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/25/report-49ers-will-not-sign-a-quarterback-this-week/

“The 49ers hosted seven quarterbacks Tuesday, but they won’t sign any of them this week, Jim Trotter of NFL Media reports. The team needs the roster spot.

The 49ers will promote Nick Mullens from the practice squad to back up C.J. Beathard after placing Jimmy Garoppolo on injured reserve.

San Francisco, though, could sign a free agent quarterback “in the near future,” according to Trotter. Mullens has never taken a regular-season snap.

Kellen Clemens, T.J. Yates, Tom Savage, E.J. Manuel, Landry Jones, Matt Simms and Kyle Allen were in Santa Clara for tryouts Tuesday.”

Give em a few home games with Jed looking at a stadium full of empty seats again. It forced them to pull a trade for Garopollo, after watching Hoyer and Beatenhard flail around back there. 

 

[drummer]

IN JED YOU TRUST FAITHFUL

Your season ticket value is another story

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/25/jimmy-garoppolo-injury-sends-49ers-to-bottom-of-usa-today-power-rankings/

It’s not a surprise that the 49ers saw a significant fall in the USA TODAY power rankings following Jimmy Garoppolo’s season-ending knee injury. San Francisco was already wavering on the edge of respectability at No. 25, but a loss to the Chiefs and the Garoppolo injury plunged them to No. 31 after Week 3.

The analysis provided by USA TODAY hits the nail on the head.

Gold rushers now on pace to extract zero silver linings from this season in wake of Jimmy Garoppolo’s devastating knee injury.

 

[scothawk]

From the “Tell me more, Captain Obvious” file:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/24/49ers-dont-have-many-options-at-quarterback/

“The 49ers for now will elevate C.J. Beathard to the starting lineup, and also potentially promote Nick Mullens from the practice squad to the 53-man roster. The fact that they’re reportedly working out Tom Savage suggests that they’re at least willing to look elsewhere.

So where else could they look? They can sign a free agent, pluck a player from a practice squad, or attempt to pull off a trade. The free-agent options aren’t plentiful, as evidenced by the fact that the name at the top of the call list was Tom Savage.

Other free agents presently on the market include Landry Jones, Paxton Lynch, EJ Manuel, and Colin Kaepernick (that’s technically true), Garrett Grayson, Josh Woodrum, Kyle Allen, Garrett Gilbert, Nic Shimonek, Luis Perez, Bryce Petty, Peter Pujals, J.T. Barrett, Joe Callahan, Jack Heneghan, Nick Mullens, Austin Allen, Connor Jessop, Matt Barkley, and Austin Davis.

Fifteen quarterbacks currently are on practice squads: Davis Webb (Jets), Danny Etling (Patriots), Christian Hackenberg (Bengals), Phillip Walker(Colts), Tanner Lee (Jaguars), Logan Woodside(Titans), Chase Litton (Chiefs), Cardale Jones(Chargers), Tyler Bray (Bears), Jake Rudock(Lions), Kurt Benkert (Falcons), Connor Cook(Panthers), Brandon Allen (Rams), Alex McGough(Seahawks), and Chad Kanoff (Cardinals).”

Wow. Are those PS QB there to help CB work on their interception return skills in practice ?

 

[drummer]

Beatenhard is gonna need Breida and Goodwin this week if he is gonna keep up with Rivers. This game could get ugly, but I still think a winnable game if things set up right for them. The Bolts I think are favored at 10.5 for all youse degenerates: 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/26/matt-breida-limited-in-practice/

49ers coach Kyle Shanahan didn’t sound optimistic about running back Matt Breida practicing Wednesday. But Breida had a limited practice, offering optimism about his availability for Sunday’s game.

“Doing all right,” Breida said before practice, via Cam Inman of the Bay Area News Group.

Breida, who is tied with Dallas’ Ezekiel Elliott for the league rushing lead, hyperextended his right knee in the first half against Kansas City. He returned after halftime to finish with 90 yards.

Breida has only 32 carries this season. Nine have gone for 10 yards or more, with six of those over 20 yards. 

With Jimmy Garoppolo on injured reserve, the 49ers likely lean on Breida more.

The 49ers also listed Marquise Goodwin(quadriceps) as limited in practice.

 

[drummer]

For your daily Beatenhard news!: 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/27/c-j-beathard-time-in-offense-has-me-better-prepared-to-start-this-year/

The 49ers turned to C.J. Beathard as their starting quarterback last year after they traded for Jimmy Garoppolo and they are turning to him again this year with Garoppolo out for the year with a torn ACL.

The results last year were not all that good. Beathard completed under 55 percent of his passes, turned the ball over eight times and posted a passer rating of 69.2 while leading the 49ers to one win in five starts.

None of those results are all that surprising for a third-round pick thrust into the lineup for a team that lost its first nine games. On Wednesday, Beathard said he felt the team around him is better this time

“It’s Year Two for me in this offense,” Beathard said, via the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. “With any extra time doing something, the better you get at it. I definitely understand more of the whys, why certain things happen, why this guy we think will be open, why we attack certain things versus certain coverages. There’s nothing you can do to simulate those reps in practice. The only way you can do it is by going out there and actually getting those game-time reps.”

Beathard will be getting plenty of those in the near future. If they don’t go better than the ones he had last season, it’s going to be a very long season for the 49ers.

Beatenhard brings excitement to Levi's Stadium! 

 

[Wingnut]

Eric Reid has found a home, the Panthers signed him to a 1 year deal.

Good for him. I hope he has some success there.

 

[Wingnut]

Hey, you asked why I wasn’t in here now that the 49ers are good to a couple of months ago.

Just how good are they, even with a healthy Garopollo? 

Not very, and now without him, I would figure these 49er season threads will wind up just like Levi’s. 

Empty

Just to clarify, I believe what I said was the team is moving in the right direction. And they still are, regardless of the nasty injuries they have this season. Shanny and Lynch still have 4 more years after this one, so the sky is not falling in Ninerland just yet.

And your response was something about not following the 49ers or the NFL much anymore. Lucky for us, you decided to jump back in right when things go south. Yay.

For your daily Beatenhard news!: 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/27/c-j-beathard-time-in-offense-has-me-better-prepared-to-start-this-year/

Beatenhard brings excitement to Levi's Stadium! 

Sorry man, I just cant take you serious when you cant type players names without putting your terrible spin on them. Its like you let 5th grade Seahawk fans have final edit of your posts before you hit send. Its one of the many reasons I generally scroll past your posts. But you do you, man. Its what weve all come to expect.

 

[drummer]

Just to clarify, I believe what I said was the team is moving in the right direction. And they still are, regardless of the nasty injuries they have this season. Shanny and Lynch still have 4 more years after this one, so the sky is not falling in Ninerland just yet.

And your response was something about not following the 49ers or the NFL much anymore. Lucky for us, you decided to jump back in right when things go south. Yay.

Sorry man, I just cant take you serious when you cant type players names without putting your terrible spin on them. Its like you let 5th grade Seahawk fans have final edit of your posts before you hit send. Its one of the many reasons I generally scroll past your posts. But you do you, man. Its what weve all come to expect.

How many recent 49er head coaches have left before their contracts were up? 

Erickson

Nolan

Singletary

Harbaugh (maybe)

Tomsula

Kelley

Pretty much every head coach hired by the Yorks. 

GMs? Well GM's have pretty much been a disaster during the York era: 

Walsh - who capped the team out

Donahue - who gutted the team that had a Pro-Bowl offense to having Tim Rattay as starter because of Salary Cap Hell

The few years where they didn't hire a GM because of Donahue

Scot McBoozin - who quit because of boozin

Trent Baalke - well we all seen how that turned out 

To now Lynch

So as you can see throughout the York ownership, no one's job is safe. This much turmoil since the turn of the millennium still hasn't corrected itself yet into something other than power trips and incompetence, and being that the 49ers could be on pace for their 4th double digit loss season in a row, without a marquee player to put butts in the seats means Jed might have to blame someone for it. He talks like's it's all on him, but his actions have said otherwise. 

No one's job is safe there bubba. They gave all that $$$ to Garoppolo because he was gonna put butts in the seats this season, and the current fanbase ain't like the old fanbase of the Candlestick days. Silicon Valley isn't exactly full of die hard 49er fans. 

Oh and spare the whole Webzone like "real fan" shtick. You bail out on this thread when the losses pile up, don't add anything substantive, or even readable. I am bumping your thread with news and commentary. 

If you want to discuss 49er football, be my guest. Or am I your guest? Either way, bring something to the table other than complaints about me typing the word Beatenhard. 

Sheesh

ETA: the only guy whose job is safe is Parag "Head coach killa" Marathe. Who if I were Lynch would keep tabs on that guy because Marathe is gunning for his job. It's not like 49er GMs lived out their contracts with the Yorks either

 

[Wingnut]

@drummer its painful to try to talk football with you because all you do is bring up ancient history and trash the team, its players, its coaches, and you have zero optimism because youre convinced that Jed will never do anything good for the team. Im not going down that road. Just glancing at the last post you made its full of crap that has ZERO to do with the current situation. Yeah yeah, we all know Jeds history. We all know that hes had coaches on short leashes, but none of those coaches you listed (other than Harbaugh, who has the biggest ego of any 49er coach in history and was not going to be Baalkes b-itch boy) were coveted by any other teams or considered to be a potential great hire. Shanahan OTOH was and still is considered one of the brightest young(ish) minds in football, at least when it comes to offense, and theres not too may people outside of yourself that doubts that he will at least get this team back on the right track and make them competitive. So spare me the "Yorks past will mirror his future" crap. None of us know whats gonna happen, but Ill put my money where my mouth is and bet that Shanahan and Lynch arent going anywhere for at least a couple more years. They may not ride out their contracts, but Im pretty confident Jed wont bail on these guys like he has the placeholders hes hired in the past, and if either or both DO leave, this team will be in much better shape than when they got here.

As for your pessimism toward Jimmy, yeah he hasnt looked amazing, but maybe thats because the program they worked on all offseason had to be scrapped at the last minute because of the injury to KcKinnon, which threw a monkey wrench into the whole thing to the point they went out and signed Alfred Morris off the couch and are giving him significant playing time. The team weve seen over the first 3 weeks isnt the team we were supposed to see, and Ill bet dollars to doughnuts the play calling and game plans to this point are nothing like they would have had Jet not got hurt. Im gonna assume that Shanahan knows more than you, and if he saw McKinnon as a perfect fit for his system, Im gonna go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt and trust that what he had in mind would be working better than what theyve shown this season. So while I wont sit here and say Jimmy would be ten times better with McKinnon, I also wont say that hes looked bad considering the circumstances. You dont work on plays and schemes all offseason and expect things to go great when one of the centerpieces of the system is lost a week before the season starts. I for one think Jimmy and company will be fine once all the pieces are actually on the field at the same time. Will he be the next Tom Brady? Probably not, but I also dont think he will be the next Scott Mitchell. I easily see him as a top 10 QB going forward, but thats just my $.02.

 

[drummer]

@drummer its painful to try to talk football with you because all you do is bring up ancient history and trash the team, its players, its coaches, and you have zero optimism because youre convinced that Jed will never do anything good for the team. Im not going down that road. Just glancing at the last post you made its full of crap that has ZERO to do with the current situation. Yeah yeah, we all know Jeds history. We all know that hes had coaches on short leashes, but none of those coaches you listed (other than Harbaugh, who has the biggest ego of any 49er coach in history and was not going to be Baalkes b-itch boy) were coveted by any other teams or considered to be a potential great hire. Shanahan OTOH was and still is considered one of the brightest young minds in football, at least when it comes to offense, and theres not too may people outside of yourself that doubts that he will at least get this team back on the right track and make them competitive. So spare me the "Yorks past will mirror his future" crap. None of us know whats gonna happen, but Ill put my money where my mouth is and bet that Shanahan and Lynch arent going anywhere for at least a couple more years. They may not ride out their contracts, but Im pretty confident Jed wont bail on these guys like he has the placeholders hes hired in the past, and if either or both DO leave, this team is in much better shape than when they got here.

As for your pessimism toward Jimmy, yeah he hasnt looked amazing, but maybe thats because the program they worked on all offseason had to be scrapped at the last minute because of the injury to KcKinnon, which threw a monkey wrench into the whole thing to the point they went out and signed Alfred Morris off the couch and are giving him significant playing time. The team weve seen over the first 3 weeks isnt the team we were supposed to see, and Ill bet dollars to doughnuts the play calling and game plans to this point are nothing like they would have had Jet not got hurt. Im gonna assume that Shanahan knows more than you, and if he saw McKinnon as a perfect fit for his system, Im gonna go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt and trust that what he had in mind would be working better than what theyve shown this season. So while I wont sit here and say Jimmy would be ten times better with McKinnon, I also wont say that hes looked bad considering the circumstances. You dont work on plays and schemes all offseason and expect things to go great when one of the centerpieces of the system is lost a week before the season starts. I for one think Jimmy and company will be fine once all the pieces are actually on the field at the same time. Will he be the next Tom Brady? Probably not, but I also dont think he will be the next Scott Mitchell. I easily see him as a top 10 QB going forward, but thats just my $.02.

Going back 16 years isn't ancient history. Going back to the Dynasty era? Well, that was before the Salary Cap era. NFL football has changed since. But if you're going to talk anything current 49er football, you have to look at the ownership, because when you are on the 4th head coach in five seasons, you kind of have to consider the ownership in all that, don't you? 

You could had said Trent Ballke knew more than I did too. I posted many times about how he was a poor talent evaluator and GM, to which fans like you disagreed, or just didn't pay attention, until it proved true. A lot of things I posted here proved to be true. It's called "keen observation". I just call it as I see it, they prove my observations, because it is the Yorks, and they have shown a pattern of incompetence since they have owned the franchise. Sure they have increased the value of the franchise as far as dollars, but again, empty seats at a brand new stadium nobody likes while going through head coaches and GM's every 2-3 years (again they are on their 4th head coach in five seasons, and on their third GM in six) is not ancient history. Just look at the past eight years. Three GM's, five head coaches, with they firing the only head coach the Yorks hired that was successful in those six years. 

Eight years, since 2010.

Mike Shanahan is a greater football mind than his son Kyle. Pair him with Dan Snyder, and what happened there? 

Kyle Shanahan hadn't won a game until he started Garoppolo, yet is wasn't like the 49ers played the hardest part of the sched when Garoppolo started, they played against Bortles and Trubisky, and Goff - who is the second best quarterback in the NFCW next to Wilson - sat out the final game of the season. Sure Garoppolo might be missing weapons he had last season, but he is currently the third best quarterback in the NFCW, and that's because AZ had Bradford and now Rosen. Garropollo may be a top ten quarterback in the future, or he could be a bottom ten quarterback in the future. He didn't last three games this season, and that's due to his poor decision making. If I have that much $$ invested in my quarterback to help show that I can be a head coach in the league - because if you look at it, Garoppolo pretty much saved Kyle from a possible 0-16 first season as head coach, well if I were Kyle I'd make damn sure I had Garoppolo dress in bubble wrap and tell him to take a sack like Harbaugh did with Alex Smith. If my season depended on Garoppolo, well now that season is over. Kyle could be staring down the barrel of a 1-15 season, until Lynch has to pull another trade. 

So just how good is Kyle Shanahan? No none knows, just like no one knows how good Garoppolo is. What I'm saying, is that if Jed York can fire head coaches that have taken them to the Super Bowl, to then fire head coaches every season since except for the last, well you have to have a lot of faith in Jed having the patience to hold the line. Problem is, Jed has no true, dyed in the wool, hardcore fanbase behind him. An empty brand new stadium with Beatenhard flailing around back there looks worse on a television broadcast. It's just another failed season since they fired Harbaugh. Meanwhile, Bay Area fans - whose entertainment dollars come at a premium due to the expense of living in the Bay Area - can spend their dollars on the baseball Giants, the NBA champion Warriors, the upstart Oakland A's, and the swan song season of the Oakland Raiders. 

It's not about being pessimistic. It's about being realistic. The 49ers ownership makes bad decisions, and makes them often. It's to the point where fans have to go season by season, and the past five seasons have been lost, all due to the ownership because they cannot manage the product on the field. They have done a great job bringing up the franchise dollar value, but Levi's Stadium has a lot to do with that. But an empty Levi's shows they don't have a real fanbase, and without any star players or wins behind them, that value diminishes to the point where Jed is behind the podium once again at the end of the season, and back to the drawing board. 

 

[Wingnut]

The 49ers won their first game with CJ at QB in week 10 last year against the Giants.  HTH

 

[drummer]

The 49ers won their first game with CJ at QB in week 10 last year against the Giants.  HTH

OH WOW THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!

 

[drummer]

What else you got 'Nut? Do some FloridaMan stuff for me, like tossing a guy off a bridge of something. You listen to a lot of Tampa sports radio. That makes you an expert somehow. 

 

[Wingnut]

Like I said, its painful to try and talk football with you because youre a broken record that says the same thing over and over and over. We get it, you hate the Yorks and you believe they will never make a good football decision and the past will repeat itself and all 49er fans who have faith that good will come are dumb sheep. Can we move on form that now?

 

[drummer]

Like I said, its painful to try and talk football with you because youre a broken record that says the same thing over and over and over. We get it, you hate the Yorks and you believe they will never make a good football decision and the past will repeat itself and all 49er fans who have faith that good will come are dumb sheep. Can we move on form that now?

Hold on, I gave you a few paragraphs to chew on. You gave me one Beatenhard win. You owe me at least four more Beatenhard wins to my five paragraphs. Can you at least try here in your own thread that you call me out on?

 

[drummer]

BTW, if you actually read the thread you started 'Nut, you would see that I posted how I thought there are games over the next several the 49ers can win. But you haven't addressed that yet, have you?

 

[Wingnut]

Hold on, I gave you a few paragraphs to chew on. You gave me one Beatenhard win. You owe me at least four more Beatenhard wins to my five paragraphs. Can you at least try here in your own thread that you call me out on?

I told you, I dont read your long winded self righteous posts because youre a know-it-all that cant have a conversation witout resorting to beating your chest abut your self proclaimed knowledge of the franchise and how anyone who has a different opinion is a moron. Youve written (according to you) "a million words" about the 49ers over the years, and I bet youve said about 50 things with those words, youre like an MP3 player with a playlist of the Yorks moves over the past decade stuck on repeat.

And I love how this is "my" thread because I started it. If it were truly mine, you would have never got through the door.

Me and the GF are closing on our new house Monday, and were about to head out for dinner and some drinks to celebrate, so youll have to amuse yourself. oooh, I know...how about posting articles that agree with your opinion, thats always fun.

 

[drummer]

I told you, I dont read your long winded self righteous posts because youre a know-it-all that cant have a conversation witout resorting to beating your chest abut your self proclaimed knowledge of the franchise and how anyone who has a different opinion is a moron. Youve written a million words about the 49ers over the years, and I bet youve said about 50 things with those words, youre like an MP3 player with a playlist of the Yorks moves over the past decade stuck on repeat.

And I love how this is "my" thread because I started it. If it were truly mine, you would have never got through the door.

Me and the GF are closing on our new house Monday, and were about to head out for dinner and some drinks to celebrate, so youll have to amuse yourself. oooh, I know...how about posting articles that agree with your opinion, thats always fun.

Well I don't know how your GF has anything to do with this, but to bring her into it....

Is not fair to your GF. 

 

[FBG Moderator]

We will look forward to you starting the "***Official 2019 San Francisco 49ers Thread** Screw this season, onto the next one and screw you drummer me and my GF are laughing at you!" thread in week ten of this season. 

Both of you stop ruining this thread. Keep it 100% on football here or find a new board.

 

[drummer]

Both of you stop ruining this thread. Keep it 100% on football here or find a new board.

You didn't have to quote me with this

 

[FBG Moderator]

You didn't have to quote me with this

I was talking to you. Stop ruining this thread. Keep it 100% on football here or find a new board.

 

[drummer]

I was talking to you.

I respectfully answered someone who called me out. They made it personal, not me. 

 

[FBG Moderator]

I respectfully answered someone who called me out. They made it personal, not me. 

You shouldn't have any problem then dropping it and getting 100% back to Football. Do that. 

 

[efactor]

I respectfully answered someone who called me out. They made it personal, not me. 

Just wow. I sincerely hope the rest of your life isn’t built upon such a lack of self awareness or just pure denial. ?

 

[drummer]

You shouldn't have any problem then dropping it and getting 100% back to Football. Do that. 

Of course I will like I had been. Most of my posts here are 49er football related. I take your point with all due respect. I'm just defending myself. 

 

[drummer]

Just wow. I sincerely hope the rest of your life isn’t built upon such a lack of self awareness or just pure denial. ?

I am very well aware of what I post here. Not many people like it, but it's rooted in the history of the franchise and I usually back them up with facts. I don't approach this as a fan. I used to write for fans and I found I had to be disingenuous because fans want to read things they agree with. I'm not about confirmation bias. These are just words. The 49ers don't reflect my daily life. I am nothing but an observer of a team that I have followed since the late 70's. 

 

[efactor]

I am very well aware of what I post here. Not many people like it, but it's rooted in the history of the franchise and I usually back them up with facts. I don't approach this as a fan. I used to write for fans and I found I had to be disingenuous because fans want to read things they agree with. I'm not about confirmation bias. These are just words. The 49ers don't reflect my daily life. I am nothing but an observer of a team that I have followed since the late 70's. 

Uh, OK  

 

[drummer]

Uh, OK  

You are free to discuss 49er football with me anytime, and free to counter my football related posts. Am I being personal with you? No I am not. But if you desire 49er related posts, at least try to not make this about me, and try to make it about the 49ers. You question my self awareness. I am aware that your response has nothing to do with the 49ers. 

 

[efactor]

You are free to discuss 49er football with me anytime, and free to counter my football related posts. Am I being personal with you? No I am not. But if you desire 49er related posts, at least try to not make this about me, and try to make it about the 49ers. You question my self awareness. I am aware that your response has nothing to do with the 49ers. 

Maybe you can suggest I get banned for the injustice of questioning your self awareness.  

A well deserved fate 

 

[drummer]

and now, back to our regularly scheduled programming: 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/27/with-eric-reid-signed-is-colin-kaepernick-next/

The decision of the Panthers to sign safety Eric Reidconstitutes a stunner, because many had presumed that the NFL’s owners would never relent or retreat in the face of the collusion grievances filed by Reid and former 49ers teammate Colin Kaepernick. So now that Reid has been signed, is Kaepernick next?

It’s a fair question, since it’s possible that Carolina’s decision to proceed — and the public reaction to it — could give a team that needs help at the quarterback position confidence that, if Kaepernick is signed, the fans won’t rush for the exits, the sponsors won’t abandon the team en masse, and the TV ratings won’t plummet.

If anything, adding Kaepernick could help a team. Especially if that team currently is facing, for example, the balance of a season without a franchise question like Jimmy Garoppolo. The 49ers have four prime-time games from Week Six to Week 10, and the ratings for those games instantly would be dramatically higher if Kaepernick were back playing quarterback for the team that drafted him in 2011.

While the league should want that increased interest, the league may not want it on those terms.

For the 49ers, who like every team are in an entertainment business, the increased interest could be welcome. And justified. Sure, it would be a challenge to get Kaepernick up to speed quickly, but just as the Broncos dramatically retooled their offense in 2011 for Tim Tebow, the 49ers could do the same for Kaepernick.

Whether it’s the 49ers or someone else, it’s beyond argument that he’s talented enough to have one of the top two spots on plenty of depth charts. It will be interesting to see whether the willingness of the Panthers to sign Reid will make a team that needs an upgrade at quarterback to sign Kaepernick.

Like I said earlier about the whole "butts in the seats" thing (which maybe Florio is making the same point here), without Garoppolo, the 49ers need something to bring the fans in, in case Beatenhard doesn't take them anywhere. Is Kaepernick an answer? Well, which other team would sign him? Jed York has stood behind him, but is Jed willing to bring him back into the fold? Of course there are 49er fans who don't like Kaepernick and wouldn't want him back, but there are 49er fans who said they would never accept Richard Sherman on the team either. 

If the 49ers with Beatenhard can't win winnable games - because there are winnable games on the schedule - then they need to sign a proven veteran like Kaepernick to at least not lose more games than last season. Fans already have given up this season because of one player. Well, why not bring in Kaepernick? The Panthers signed Reid. 

 

[drummer]

Maybe you can suggest I get banned for the injustice of questioning your self awareness.  

A well deserved fate 

I leave it to the mods to monitor this forum. No one is that important to me to want them banned. I say that with all due respect. 

 

[Wingnut]

I'm now turnip free. I suggest everyone try it.

Breida back to full practice.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/27/49ers-injury-report-matt-breida-upgraded-to-full-participant-in-practice/?utm_source=49ersWebZone&utm_medium=dt&utm_campaign=affref

 

[Wingnut]

Jimmy is so marketable the NFL wanted the world to meet him this year. Unfortunately they won't get that chance. But hey, Jimmy sucks if you ask certain "fans" around here, so it's probably a good thing they won't have to watch him stink up the field.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/09/25/niners-primetime-tv-ratings-garoppolo-injury/?utm_source=49ersWebZone&utm_medium=dt&utm_campaign=affref

The NFL has a Jimmy Garoppolo problem

The Niners were everyone’s offseason darling team. They finished last year on a winning streak. Jimmy Garoppolo would have more time with Kyle Shanahan. The young defense would start to take a turn. The Niners were back, baby! Now, the Niners are not so back. Jimmy Garoppolo’s season is over because he tried to pick up an extra yard on a scramble in a game where San Francisco was probably going to lose. Now the Niners Jimmy Garoppolo problem is the entire NFL’s problem. Here’s why:

See, the NFL knew that Garoppolo was marketable. The Niners are a historic franchise smack in the middle of Fortune 500 businesses. Niners fans have disposable income and the Bay Area is a great media market. The Niners would be fun on television. So, the NFL did what any other league in the world would do: they put a ton of Niners’ games in primetime viewing windows. From October 15 until December 2, the Niners are scheduled for five primetime games. That’s five games in eight weeks. That’s downright Giants, Cowboys, Patriots, and Steelers-like.

It made sense when Garoppolo was playing for the Niners. Now, not so much. San Francisco will not be as good with C.J. Beathard manning the quarterback position. They won’t be as fun. They won’t be as explosive. Beathard isn’t a dreamboat franchise quarterback like Garoppolo. In fact, we saw what the Niners looked like with Beathard last year. We don’t need to see it again. Here are the Niner’s primetime games

10/15: Monday Night Football, Niners at Packers

10/21: Sunday Night Football, Rams at Niners

11/1: Thursday Night Football, Raiders at Niners

11/12: Monday Night Football, Giants at Niners

12/2: Sunday Night Football, Niners at Seahawks

The main problem with the schedule is that only the Niners at Seahawks game can be flexed. Everything else is set in stone. This means a bad team with a backup quarterback is playing in a major game for the NFL for five out of eight weeks. This would normally mean bad television ratings. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but ratings are a big deal to the NFL. There’s no way the league will have year over year increases with Garoppolo out. This is ratings black plague. C.J. Beathard isn’t going to make ratings pop. Garoppolo would have.

That’s the risk of the NFL. They want to push certain players, stars, and teams. They do so thinking it will help them in ratings. The problem is that players get injured . . . a lot. This isn’t a new phenomenon. Jimmy Garoppolo just made some NFL higher-ups and television executives very sad

 

[drummer]

Interesting: 

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimTrotter_NFL/status/1045359110344986624

Another team that made a sincere run at Eric Reid this week was the #49ers, who had interest in signing him to a multi-year deal.

Makes me agree with Florio’s take on Kaepernick, if Beatenhard can’t get it done, and those prime time games are something Jed covets. 

 

[drummer]

Jimmy is so marketable the NFL wanted the world to meet him this year. Unfortunately they won't get that chance. But hey, Jimmy sucks if you ask certain "fans" around here, so it's probably a good thing they won't have to watch him stink up the field.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/09/25/niners-primetime-tv-ratings-garoppolo-injury/?utm_source=49ersWebZone&utm_medium=dt&utm_campaign=affref

The NFL has a Jimmy Garoppolo problem

The Niners were everyone’s offseason darling team. They finished last year on a winning streak. Jimmy Garoppolo would have more time with Kyle Shanahan. The young defense would start to take a turn. The Niners were back, baby! Now, the Niners are not so back. Jimmy Garoppolo’s season is over because he tried to pick up an extra yard on a scramble in a game where San Francisco was probably going to lose. Now the Niners Jimmy Garoppolo problem is the entire NFL’s problem. Here’s why:

See, the NFL knew that Garoppolo was marketable. The Niners are a historic franchise smack in the middle of Fortune 500 businesses. Niners fans have disposable income and the Bay Area is a great media market. The Niners would be fun on television. So, the NFL did what any other league in the world would do: they put a ton of Niners’ games in primetime viewing windows. From October 15 until December 2, the Niners are scheduled for five primetime games. That’s five games in eight weeks. That’s downright Giants, Cowboys, Patriots, and Steelers-like.

It made sense when Garoppolo was playing for the Niners. Now, not so much. San Francisco will not be as good with C.J. Beathard manning the quarterback position. They won’t be as fun. They won’t be as explosive. Beathard isn’t a dreamboat franchise quarterback like Garoppolo. In fact, we saw what the Niners looked like with Beathard last year. We don’t need to see it again. Here are the Niner’s primetime games

10/15: Monday Night Football, Niners at Packers

10/21: Sunday Night Football, Rams at Niners

11/1: Thursday Night Football, Raiders at Niners

11/12: Monday Night Football, Giants at Niners

12/2: Sunday Night Football, Niners at Seahawks

The main problem with the schedule is that only the Niners at Seahawks game can be flexed. Everything else is set in stone. This means a bad team with a backup quarterback is playing in a major game for the NFL for five out of eight weeks. This would normally mean bad television ratings. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but ratings are a big deal to the NFL. There’s no way the league will have year over year increases with Garoppolo out. This is ratings black plague. C.J. Beathard isn’t going to make ratings pop. Garoppolo would have.

That’s the risk of the NFL. They want to push certain players, stars, and teams. They do so thinking it will help them in ratings. The problem is that players get injured . . . a lot. This isn’t a new phenomenon. Jimmy Garoppolo just made some NFL higher-ups and television executives very sad

Butts.In.Seats. 

 

[drummer]

Maybe, maybe not: 

http://www.knbr.com/2018/09/27/adam-schefter-explains-why-49ers-are-unlikely-to-sign-colin-kaepernick/

Since Jimmy Garoppolo’s season came to an abrupt and painful end last Sunday, the 49ers have been constantly re-evaluating the quarterback position. C.J. Beathard will take over the starting job, but the 49ers have reportedly worked out at least seven other quarterbacks as potential backup options. Currently, the only other quarterback on the roster is Nick Mullens, who was promoted from the practice squad after Garoppolo was placed on the injured reserve with a torn left ACL.

One high-profile quarterback who was not a part of those tryouts was Colin Kaepernick. Adam Schefter joined Murph and Mac this morning to discuss the 49ers’ season outlook in the wake of Garoppolo’s injury and explained why the 49ers are unlikely to sign Kaepernick.

Schefter referenced Kyle Shanahan’s comments about the several quarterbacks the team tried out on Tuesday to explain why Kaepernick wasn’t involved. Among those tryouts were Kyle Allen, Kellen Clemens, Matt Simms, Tom Savage, T.J. Yates, Landry Jones and E.J. Manuel.

“They’d have to change the offense to accommodate him and it doesn’t sound like right now, based on Kyle’s comments, that they’re willing to do that,” Schefter said. “I know that frustrates and annoys a lot of people and other people are OK with that. I’m going by what he said the other day that there would be just have to be too many things that they would have to change, which is why it didn’t sound like they would make that move.”

Shanahan said on Monday that trying to incorporate Kaepernick would mean a huge change for the offense.

“When you get into your third and fourth guy, whoever that is, we like to bring in guys we felt you don’t have to change much of your offense for,” Shanahan said.

While some fans may be disappointed to hear that the 49ers won’t bring in Kaepernick, Schefter said Beathard is likely to surprise some people with his ability.

“I think that C.J. Beathard will be better than people are expecting,” Schefter said. “I think that he will be improved over what he was last year when he was a rookie quarterback and he was asked to play five games and went 1-4. He’s going be better because he’s been in the system for over a year now and he’s had a chance to learn the offense and basically be better at the offense.”

Schefter was clear that Beathard is still a downgrade from Garoppolo, saying, “He’s not going to be Jimmy G, that’s an issue.” However, he maintained positivity about Beathard.

“I think the Niners have a pretty good backup quarterback in C.J. Beathard,” Schefter said. I think a lot of people don’t realize that, but I think he’s going to be better than people think. Maybe I could be wrong here, but I think he’s going to be better than people think.”

Earlier in the day, former 49ers safety Eric Reid was signed to a one-year deal by the Carolina Panthers. The 49ers reportedly made an offer to Reid, but he may have had to backup Jaquiski Tartt once he returned.

Both he and Kaepernick are part of a lawsuit against the NFL alleging collusion to keep both out of the league after both kneeled during the national anthem. It’s unclear how his signing will affect the lawsuit.

Whether it would have been Kaepernick or one of the quarterbacks the team worked out on Tuesday, Schefter said the 49ers aren’t too desperate to add another quarterback.

“I don’t think in the grand scheme of things, it’s not a disrespect to these quarterbacks, that it makes a huge deal,” Schefter said. “I don’t know which one they’d like. They’re not trading for one and they don’t appear to be in a rush to sign one.”

I still think Kaepernick may get a shot if the 49ers go on an extended losing streak. 

 

[drummer]

Watching MNF: 

Goff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garoppollo

 

[Wingnut]

Got my Tix in the mail today for the 49ers Bucs game week 12 in Tampa.

Being at the game Monday night and watching the Steelers hand them their first loss, it's gonna be even sweeter when CJ and the Niners come to town and beat Jameis in his own house.