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That ref begins the net can eat a big one.  Rinnes mask loose and alerts the ref multiple times and no stop.  Jets score the go ahead right after.  And Rinne needs to be smart and shake the mask off in that situation.

All that said...up 3-0 you shouldn’t lose.  For all the talk the Nashville D...they have been bad this series.

 
Have seen that Wilson hit several times now and still don't see the dirty hit.No idea what Pierre was yapping about on that one.It was close sure but Wilson is also a much bigger man who,as I saw it,got the shoulder first.

Ovie with his biggest goal of his career tonight and that was some sweet touch to bat it back in after posting it.

Pens clearly have them right where they want them.

 
I was watching with 20+ Caps fans tonight, everyone of us was surprised by the result.  Pens almost certainly win this series but what if they don't?  Some good comedy there also IMO. 

 
Isn’t it interesting how NHL teams have been so closely guarded in recent years with the whole upper/lower body injury nonsense, yet Sullivan comes out in the postgame and point-blank says that Aston-Reese has a broken jaw and concussion. Surely trying to plant that seed for Parros and DOPS.

 
Imma just leave this here

@JoshYohe_PGH: Barry Trotz on Tom Wilson: "He just keeps developing as a young man. He's a leader. He's a guy that can lead in the dressing room. He's grown up. He's was a young man who came into the National Hockey League very young and I think he just keeps maturing and growing his game."

 
Isn’t it interesting how NHL teams have been so closely guarded in recent years with the whole upper/lower body injury nonsense, yet Sullivan comes out in the postgame and point-blank says that Aston-Reese has a broken jaw and concussion. Surely trying to plant that seed for Parros and DOPS.
Surgery is required so it's not like he's coming back for the rest of this series. So why not?

 
Wilson should be gone remainder of this series minimum.  But the league won't do anything as usual. We'll have the numerous idiots saying well he head was slanted, shoulder turned at an awkward point, feet were glued to the ice. If I'm sullivan & Wilson isn't suspended, I tell someone to go out and take a 2 handed baseball swing at his wrist or ankle and make sure you break it. Trotz is just as bad, shrugging his shoulders Aston-Reese is helped off the ice, fat turd. Then the ridiculous statements about pens fans crying about Wilson's hit last game only to have Dumoulin playing last night. This is why he should have been gone, it was a matter of time before someone got hurt really bad.

 
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I was attending a party and missed that hit. That's three games if Doughty's was one. 

That's ridiculous. He spins in the air off of his feet. What a joke.  

 
I don't follow hockey as closely as the NFL so I'm not clear on the new rules designed to protect head shots and dirty play.  But how can the hit last night not result in a suspension?  Wilson came out of nowhere and delivered a rising blow with his shoulder to the head area... his feet were completely off the ice and he ended up in the Caps bench! I guess you can review it frame by frame and determine that contact first occurred at the should before he blew thought the guys jaw.  Is that shoulder contact the reason it is considered borderline? Because I thought that was the type of head hunting the league says it wants to stop.

 
Yes.

And his feet weren't completely off the ice until after the hit.
I think if the NHL is serious about player safety it shouldn't really matter whether it was the shoulder that made contact with the head or not.   Wilson was clearly targeting the head and launched his whole body with the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible.  If you don't want your players getting their heads scrambled then you need to come down hard on these types of hits.   

If not then continue to do nothing and encourage goon behavior.  It really depends on what kind of league the NHL wants to be.

 
I think if the NHL is serious about player safety it shouldn't really matter whether it was the shoulder that made contact with the head or not.   Wilson was clearly targeting the head and launched his whole body with the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible.  If you don't want your players getting their heads scrambled then you need to come down hard on these types of hits.   

If not then continue to do nothing and encourage goon behavior.  It really depends on what kind of league the NHL wants to be.
That's two or three games regardless. RUSF18 is a frequent contributor, but if Doughty gets a game, this guy needs two or three.  

 
I think if the NHL is serious about player safety it shouldn't really matter whether it was the shoulder that made contact with the head or not.   Wilson was clearly targeting the head and launched his whole body with the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible.  If you don't want your players getting their heads scrambled then you need to come down hard on these types of hits.   

If not then continue to do nothing and encourage goon behavior.  It really depends on what kind of league the NHL wants to be.
I don't think he was clearly targeting the head but I do agree that he had the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible. When that's the goal, it will result in head injuries from the change in momentum and the snapping back of the head even if there is absolutely no contact with the head, initially or eventually. So the same could happen if a player was clearly targeting the shoulder and actually hit the shoulder. 

So that is what you are claiming should be taken out of the league. Which is fine, and I don't necessarily disagree, but let's be clear about it. 

 
I don't follow hockey as closely as the NFL so I'm not clear on the new rules designed to protect head shots and dirty play.  But how can the hit last night not result in a suspension?  Wilson came out of nowhere and delivered a rising blow with his shoulder to the head area... his feet were completely off the ice and he ended up in the Caps bench! I guess you can review it frame by frame and determine that contact first occurred at the should before he blew thought the guys jaw.  Is that shoulder contact the reason it is considered borderline? Because I thought that was the type of head hunting the league says it wants to stop.
Came out of nowhere? A-R was looking right at him for 3 strides before the hit and tried to deliver one of his own. Wilson is just bigger and A-R shoulder lifted him up as they hit each other. Wilson ending up in the bench isn't a good indication that he delivered all the force. 

 
I don't think he was clearly targeting the head but I do agree that he had the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible. When that's the goal, it will result in head injuries from the change in momentum and the snapping back of the head even if there is absolutely no contact with the head, initially or eventually. So the same could happen if a player was clearly targeting the shoulder and actually hit the shoulder. 

So that is what you are claiming should be taken out of the league. Which is fine, and I don't necessarily disagree, but let's be clear about it. 
I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree on this point.

 
I think if the NHL is serious about player safety it shouldn't really matter whether it was the shoulder that made contact with the head or not.   Wilson was clearly targeting the head and launched his whole body with the intent of delivering the hardest hit possible.  If you don't want your players getting their heads scrambled then you need to come down hard on these types of hits.   

If not then continue to do nothing and encourage goon behavior.  It really depends on what kind of league the NHL wants to be.
Location:Pittsburgh, PA

Right.  As a neutral, hit was fine.  One guy is about 4-5" taller than the other.  Didn't see any targeting, just going in hard.  But I do love me some Pittsburgh whining.

 
That's two or three games regardless. RUSF18 is a frequent contributor, but if Doughty gets a game, this guy needs two or three.  
I wish I was a more frequent contributor, but my kid has been wearing me out and I've barely watched any playoff hockey this year so far. 

Anyway, I'm sure you guys already went through this plenty but that hit was called "main contact with the head" and an "avoidable" hit by DPS right? That's a big difference.

BTW I ####### hate Tom Wilson. Give him all the games you want. 

 
Came out of nowhere? A-R was looking right at him for 3 strides before the hit and tried to deliver one of his own. Wilson is just bigger and A-R shoulder lifted him up as they hit each other. Wilson ending up in the bench isn't a good indication that he delivered all the force. 
:lmao:   So the smaller man lifted the bigger man up with his shoulder.  You can argue whether or not he was targeting the shoulder or the head if you want but come on, Wilson launched into A-R and that's why he ended up in the bench.

 
I wish I was a more frequent contributor, but my kid has been wearing me out and I've barely watched any playoff hockey this year so far. 

Anyway, I'm sure you guys already went through this plenty but that hit was called "main contact with the head" and an "avoidable" hit by DPS right? That's a big difference.

BTW I ####### hate Tom Wilson. Give him all the games you want. 
Yeah, wasn't calling you out. Just think this warrants at least one or two.  (Or three, though those are tough to come by.)

 
:lmao:   So the smaller man lifted the bigger man up with his shoulder.  You can argue whether or not he was targeting the shoulder or the head if you want but come on, Wilson launched into A-R and that's why he ended up in the bench.
Wilson wasn't going into the bench before the hit. What made him change direction, a strong breeze?

 
Location:Pittsburgh, PA

Right.  As a neutral, hit was fine.  One guy is about 4-5" taller than the other.  Didn't see any targeting, just going in hard.  But I do love me some Pittsburgh whining.
Well there are a lot of people outside of Pittsburgh that think the hit was dirty.  It really comes down to whether or not you want to see hits like this taking players out of the game.  If you're cool with that then the hit was fine.

 
Fine by me. How about the rest of it? Guys brains can get scrambled on clean shoulder to shoulder hits too. Yay or nay?
Sure you aren't going to be able to eliminate all head injuries out of the game.  My point is that you should try to reduce the amount of hits to the head these guys are taking.  This is what the NFL is attempting to do.

 
Well there are a lot of people outside of Pittsburgh that think the hit was dirty.  It really comes down to whether or not you want to see hits like this taking players out of the game.  If you're cool with that then the hit was fine.
Really don't think Wilson is going to risk suspension by taking out a guy with what, 15 career games in the NHL?  Maybe if it was Crosby or Kessel lined up.  A case could be made for repeat offender status - but again, I don't think this hit was targeting by any means.  He's going in hard into the player, same as any power forward would do.  I mean, this is what the guy gets paid to do, no?  Skate around and hit everything that moves?  Get the other team to think twice about going after the puck when he is on the ice?  

 
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That's a pretty fine line between clean and dirty, and a line you would think the NHL would want to make less ambiguous.
Agreed on both. But it's something they have pointed to in the past as "justification".

But of course it looks like they're spinning the wheel...

eta: To be clear, justification for not suspending. Not justification for making the hit. 

 
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Came out of nowhere? A-R was looking right at him for 3 strides before the hit and tried to deliver one of his own. Wilson is just bigger and A-R shoulder lifted him up as they hit each other. Wilson ending up in the bench isn't a good indication that he delivered all the force. 
Wilson launching into A-R is a good indication he delivered all the force :lol:  

 
Really don't think Wilson is going to risk suspension by taking out a guy with what, 15 career games in the NHL?  Maybe if it was Crosby or Kessel lined up.  A case could be made for repeat offender status - but again, I don't think this hit was targeting by any means.  He's going in hard into the player, same as any power forward would do.  
I don't think Wilson cares who he hits cause he hasn't been getting penalized, let alone suspended.   As far as the targeting goes I guess we just see it differently which is fine.   The bottom line is the result and whether or not the NHL wants to protect it's players.

 
The officials conferred for a time and decided no penalty.  Both players saw each other coming, the bigger guy got the better of the smaller.  It's physics.  The replays I saw had Wilson hitting shoulder first with momentum carrying through to where he did strike the head.  

FTR I'm a Penguins fan and I don't see what the fuss is.  But I like the physical aspects of hockey.  Unfortunate that the injuries occurred, but that's hockey. 

This isn't the all-star skills competition.  

Of course when it was Orpik handing out "free candy", different story entirely...  

That said, I'll be shocked if Wilson doesn't get a game (or more) given the level of whining.  He might have been shot by firing squad if it had been Crosby that he collided with.  

 
The officials conferred for a time and decided no penalty.  Both players saw each other coming, the bigger guy got the better of the smaller.  It's physics.  The replays I saw had Wilson hitting shoulder first with momentum carrying through to where he did strike the head.  

FTR I'm a Penguins fan and I don't see what the fuss is.  But I like the physical aspects of hockey.  Unfortunate that the injuries occurred, but that's hockey. 
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I guess I'm in the crowd of that's hockey.   He clearly saw Wilson skating right at him, he bailed on the puck and braced himself to give it right back to Wilson, he just lost.   A good/whimpy player like Crosby avoids that hit all together.

 
I expect a suspension. The optics don't look good given that this is the second game in a row that his hit caused an injury. NHL will give him 1 for that reason alone and if they conclude ppc as the head he'll get 3.

 
Lol at all the Penguin tears and the new Doughty standard at measuring suspension length.  Makes the flight to Tulsa much more enjoyable. Go Thrashers. 

 
I enjoy when my team doesn’t play a playoff game that day. The day of a game is stressville. I guess in that regard, Montreal fans are truly blessed. 

 
I enjoy when my team doesn’t play a playoff game that day. The day of a game is stressville. I guess in that regard, Montreal fans are truly blessed. 
This is probably another reason I haven't watched as much this year. I used to love watching other games in between Rangers playoffs games for this exact reason. It's not as fun now. 

 
The officials conferred for a time and decided no penalty.  Both players saw each other coming, the bigger guy got the better of the smaller.  It's physics.  The replays I saw had Wilson hitting shoulder first with momentum carrying through to where he did strike the head.  

FTR I'm a Penguins fan and I don't see what the fuss is.  But I like the physical aspects of hockey.  Unfortunate that the injuries occurred, but that's hockey. 

This isn't the all-star skills competition.  

Of course when it was Orpik handing out "free candy", different story entirely...  

That said, I'll be shocked if Wilson doesn't get a game (or more) given the level of whining.  He might have been shot by firing squad if it had been Crosby that he collided with.  
suspend physics!

 
This is probably another reason I haven't watched as much this year. I used to love watching other games in between Rangers playoffs games for this exact reason. It's not as fun now. 
see...as an Islander fan, we are use to watching the playoffs with no stress. If i stopped watching hockey once the NYI's were eliminated, I wouldn't see anything. 

 
just got suspended for two games at the World Championships.  he's a bigger goon than Tom Wilson.
suspended for the 2019 U18 championships. :lmao: great shtick suspending a player for a tournament he has zero chance of playing in. that'll teach him.

 

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