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Official 2019 Atlantic Hurricane Season Thread - Sebestian (1 Viewer)

Forecast is obviously an average, but landfall by Orlando and Daytona on Labor Day weekend is a scary look right now. 
Yea that would suck for a few of us here.  I'm about 40 miles east of Daytona.  I have lived here for over 60 years and I don't remember a landfall ever on Central Floridas east coast.  Daytona, Titusville, New Symrna areas I think it is pretty rare for them.

 
My understanding is that the technical definition of a "compact" storm indicates that tropical storm force winds can be felt no farther than 45 miles from the center.
It might be.  I've never heard of an actual technical term but again, I'm not a tropical system expert.  But usually when I think of a compact storm, it's something that is not very wide across.  Like Andrew was nice and compact while Ike was a huge beast.  Ike was so big, it didn't allow for water to escape around the edges of it, causing the incredible storm surges we saw in Houston a day before landfall.

 
It might be.  I've never heard of an actual technical term but again, I'm not a tropical system expert.  But usually when I think of a compact storm, it's something that is not very wide across.  Like Andrew was nice and compact while Ike was a huge beast.  Ike was so big, it didn't allow for water to escape around the edges of it, causing the incredible storm surges we saw in Houston a day before landfall.
Yeah, I'm sure it's used both ways - both definitionally and relative to other storms. 

 
Saying it could be a cat 3 at landfall now.  Big difference from 2 days ago when they were saying wind shear would get it.

 
This is an odd forecast for sure.  I think Rusty referenced it earlier, these mid-coast and up storms almost always curl north as they approach land, and I can’t remember one strengthening (projected) like this.  Hoping it’s a “get worked up for nothing” situation in the end 

 
Saying it could be a cat 3 at landfall now.  Big difference from 2 days ago when they were saying wind shear would get it.
The move north is what's helping this.  The old path had it going over land.  New path does not.  And the shear was always going to drop off as it moved closer to the coast.  The Bahamas is a perfect area for development right now.

Just got bumped to a Cat 1.

 
Saying it could be a cat 3 at landfall now.  Big difference from 2 days ago when they were saying wind shear would get it.
This latest update has caused some panic in South Florida. Expect water and other non-perishable items to fly off the shelf. A lot of plywood will be sold. There's good money to be made putting up and taking down metal panel storm shutters, especially in 2 story houses. I helped a lady friend put up panels in her 2 story townhouse before Irma 2 years ago. No charge, and it was a challenge because some bolts didn't fit into predrilled holes due to corrosion and paint, and installing panels on the second floor above a screened patio was dangerous, luckily I'm not too heavy. Some guys were charging $100 or more for putting up panels to cover about 7 windows in those same 2-story townhouses and the same to remove them. 

 
As a kid, I spent my summers just north of Daytona and I only remember maybe once where a hurricane came on land anywhere near there.

 
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Yea that would suck for a few of us here.  I'm about 40 miles east of Daytona.  I have lived here for over 60 years and I don't remember a landfall ever on Central Floridas east coast.  Daytona, Titusville, New Symrna areas I think it is pretty rare for them.
2004 Hurricane Frances and Jeanne hit the east coast about two weeks apart. 

 
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2004 Hurricane Frances and Jeanne hit the east coast about two weeks apart. 
Yea I remember that was a bad year but both storms made landfall around Ft.Pierce if I remember correctly.  Don't remember one making landfall around the Daytona area.  What do I know though I bought property 40 miles E. of Daytona so I'm not too bright.

 
Yea I remember that was a bad year but both storms made landfall around Ft.Pierce if I remember correctly.  Don't remember one making landfall around the Daytona area.  What do I know though I bought property 40 miles E. of Daytona so I'm not too bright.
Yep. Treasure Coast got pummeled. Frances and Jeanne in 2004, then Wilma in 2005.

 
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Gonna be interesting to see when and where they announce evacuation zones for Dorian. With such a dramatic turn in the forecast they could be off by 100 to 150 miles. 

Latest forecast slows the timeline down to late Monday. Do you announce evacs on Saturday of holiday weekend? 

 
Gonna be interesting to see when and where they announce evacuation zones for Dorian. With such a dramatic turn in the forecast they could be off by 100 to 150 miles. 

Latest forecast slows the timeline down to late Monday. Do you announce evacs on Saturday of holiday weekend? 
If it is coming in at a 3 you really have no choice.

 
The timeline has been a bit whacky...what are the chances that it speeds up during the projected intensification process and the big turn?

 
The timeline has been a bit whacky...what are the chances that it speeds up during the projected intensification process and the big turn?
It weakened a little overnight, from 986 to 991, but the models have converged on it slowing down during the 24 hours before it hits Florida. Arrival is projected to be Monday as a cat 3. On Tuesday, there was only one outlier model projecting a cat 3.

 
It weakened a little overnight, from 986 to 991, but the models have converged on it slowing down during the 24 hours before it hits Florida. Arrival is projected to be Monday as a cat 3. On Tuesday, there was only one outlier model projecting a cat 3.
The only "positive" I see is at least it is moving rather quickly.  15mph should make it a in and out type storm.  Whereas Florence was like 5mph and that was the mitigating factor in regards to the damage caused.

 
It weakened a little overnight, from 986 to 991, but the models have converged on it slowing down during the 24 hours before it hits Florida. Arrival is projected to be Monday as a cat 3. On Tuesday, there was only one outlier model projecting a cat 3.
I didn’t phrase well, I meant how fast it’s moving, not the wind-speed

 
pantherclub said:
If it is coming in at a 3 you really have no choice.
Let me rephrase the question - do you announce evacs Friday when you're 70 pct sure but the holiday weekend tourists are just starting to show up or wait until Saturday when you have more info but have to evac both tourists and locals?

 
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Let me rephrase the question - do you announce evacs Friday when you're 70 put sure but the holiday weekend tourists are just starting to show up or wait until Saturday when you have more info but have to evac both tourists and locals?
IMO the holiday has nothing to do with it as far as the decision making goes.  I doubt tourists are even showing up at this point.  If its predicted as a 3 they will start telling people on fri to get out.  A 3 is a mess of a storm.

I doubt anyone with plans to visit fla for labor day are still planning to come, but you still announce on friday just to alert the morons that may not understand what a cat 3 storm is

 
Yea that would suck for a few of us here.  I'm about 40 miles east of Daytona.  I have lived here for over 60 years and I don't remember a landfall ever on Central Floridas east coast.  Daytona, Titusville, New Symrna areas I think it is pretty rare for them.
Hurricane Matthew hit there in 2016, right? But yea I don't remember one before that in a long while. We've vacationed in Daytona the last 5 or so years during the summer.

 
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Me too. I had actually looked at a piece of property that you could only get to by boat out Ozello way but my wife threatened to divorce me if I got it.
Ozello? Crystal River? That's where I kayak fish. I live 100 miles due west of Daytona (Hernando). Good luck on the storm. I do remember going through hurricane David  that hit Jax Beach around '79.

 
Ozello? Crystal River? That's where I kayak fish. I live 100 miles due west of Daytona (Hernando). Good luck on the storm. I do remember going through hurricane David  that hit Jax Beach around '79.
Yep I love it there.  I go fishing there all the time lots of Reds and Sea trout.

 

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