***Official 2019 High End Starters Getting Lit the Hell Up Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Northern Voice]

Carrasco tonight. 

Chris Sale x 2

Zack Greinke week 1

Aaron Nola 

Juiced ball is fun... Who you got?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

deGrom by the Twins this week. 

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Jake Arrieta dominated the fish tonight.

 

[Eephus]

Can't drop 'em.  Can't get decent return on a trade.  I hate to even sit 'em.

Just have to sit tight and hope regression to the mean works in either direction.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Not that JA Happ is by any means a high end starter but he went from a very serviceable starter the last few years to a flaming pile of dog ####.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Not that JA Happ is by any means a high end starter but he went from a very serviceable starter the last few years to a flaming pile of dog ####.

Happ is usually on the WW by May - i never draft him but always pick him up. Ervin Santana was the same way when he was good.

As to the issue, it's all proof that load mgmt is more load than mgmt. All coddling leads to is further coddling. Can't train pitchers up to a season, just to a start, but nobody wants to just hope for the best and only hope they last when they're paying them what they do.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Happ is usually on the WW by May - i never draft him but always pick him up. Ervin Santana was the same way when he was good.

As to the issue, it's all proof that load mgmt is more load than mgmt. All coddling leads to is further coddling. Can't train pitchers up to a season, just to a start, but nobody wants to just hope for the best and only hope they last when they're paying them what they do.

I would love it if I could get Happ on the waiver wire in May.  Since 2015, he's a mid 3.5 era getting around 8-9 K/9.  While not elite, how is a guy like that on the waiver wire?  He should be a solid # 3 fantasy starter for most teams (this year excluded of course).

 

[Northern Voice]

As to the issue, it's all proof that load mgmt is more load than mgmt. All coddling leads to is further coddling. Can't train pitchers up to a season, just to a start, but nobody wants to just hope for the best and only hope they last when they're paying them what they do.

There's pretty strong evidence the ball is juiced again as well.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/48260/moonshot-the-baseball-is-juiced-again/

 

[Redwes25]

I would love it if I could get Happ on the waiver wire in May.  Since 2015, he's a mid 3.5 era getting around 8-9 K/9.  While not elite, how is a guy like that on the waiver wire?  He should be a solid # 3 fantasy starter for most teams (this year excluded of course).

Have you seen what he is done this year?  He is sitting on my bench until further notice. Not going to drop him yet but won’t let him destroy my ratios anymore. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

Have you seen what he is done this year?  He is sitting on my bench until further notice. Not going to drop him yet but won’t let him destroy my ratios anymore. 

Did you not read the end of my post (“this year excluded”)?  Obviously my response was to the poster’s ludicrous claim that a player like Happ was on the waiver wire in previous years.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Is Kluber still considered High End?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Thor and Nola keeping this thread going for another day. 

 

[Eephus]

Yu Darvish's toe emerges from the grave

 

[Northern Voice]

Chris Sale gave up 4 runs in 5 innings to lower his ERA on the season to 8.50.

Carrasco and his 12.60 ERA faces the Mariners who have a home run in every game this season, anyone daring to start him?

Buehler and his 8.25 ERA faces Cincy. 

Not quite high end but Eovaldi (8.40) vs. Happ (8.76) is another interesting one. 

On the flip side, the elite matchup based on early season performance may somehow be Samardzija (1.62) vs. Hellickson (2.25)

In other words, there's a ton of regression coming, hopefully it starts today. 

 

[MAC_32]

Yu Darvish's toe emerges from the grave

I kinda hope the wind is blowing out at Wrigley Sunday, so I can talk myself out of starting him.  Sure, he was playable the last two, but you didn't get out of the 6th inning and yielded 3 HR + 4 BB to Miami and Pittsburgh.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not an ace but a guy people thought could be a #3 SP, Nick Pivetta, sent to AAA. Oof

 

[Eephus]

Not an ace but a guy people thought could be a #3 SP, Nick Pivetta, sent to AAA. Oof

It spares owners the aggravation of deciding whether or not to start him

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Not an ace but a guy people thought could be a #3 SP, Nick Pivetta, sent to AAA. Oof

I was in on this guy. I haven't been this wrong since I thought Jorge Fabregas was the next Ivan Rodriguez. 

 

[Northern Voice]

Carrasco and his 12.60 ERA faces the Mariners who have a home run in every game this season, anyone daring to start him?

GUESS WHO I DIDN'T START TONIGHT GUYS???

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Thor not good 

 

[General Malaise]

Should have left deGross on the DL.  Yuck.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Thor just threw a complete game shutout and he still has a 5 ERA.  

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Is Kluber still considered High End?

:deadbanana:

 

[Eephus]

Is Kluber still considered High End?

:deadbanana:

It's Lit the hell up, not Hit the hell up.