That's nothing to be embarrassed about at all. Wimbledon is awesome and the final was absolutely epic.
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*Official 2019 Philadelphia Eagles Thread* - Season's over; Go Away Now... (1 Viewer)
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need2know
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Dude, couldn't you find a rugby game or an Australian football game? At least watch a Soul game.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
agree....i watched baseball....my son lasted about 4 pitches.....this is boring......
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
you were privileged to watch a great match.
morning sports events are the best, too, imo.
GoBirds
Footballguy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/17/eagles-espn-power-ranking-carson-wentz/amp/
Pumped for this year and the years to come with this roster!
Pumped for this year and the years to come with this roster!
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Anytime I see or hear anyone talking about the eagles they’re saying how this is a super bowl quality roster
GoBirds
Footballguy
As we know well....anything can happen but I’m pretty psyched about this roster and where the franchise is right now.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Zach Berman is now with them from the INKY. If you get a chance read the article on how the Eagles offense came to be with Pederson from Andy Reid. It's a hell of a read and gives a lot of depth how Pederson and the staff knew a lot about Wentz already.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Sproles is back on a one year deal.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
jerseys finest
Footballguy
is it though? Despite his age, he could still be good in the return game as well as catching passes out of the backfield. Not to mention the wealth of knowledge he would be able to pass on to the younger backs(no other real vets outside of Howard and his 3 years of action).
He isn't going to make the team just because its Darren sproles, if he winds up on the game day roster, its because he earned it. Putting him on the 90 man offseason roster is an easy call to see what he has left in the tank and to bleed as much of his knowledge into the younger players at RB.
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Bigboy10182000
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He hasn’t been anything in the return game for quite some time now. He’s also only played 9 games the past two seasons and at 36 I can’t imagine he has much, if anything left.
I have the opposite take for if he makes the team too. If he makes it, it will be because he’s a veteran guy IMO. I’d much rather let some of the younger guys battle for that 3rd and possible 4th spot.
jerseys finest
Footballguy
fair enough. His injuries have been more freak than anything else the last couple years, but I wouldn't consider him "injury prone". But I understand what you're saying. I'd say they carry 4 and possibly 5 RB(1 as mainly a returner possibly). I still like the pickup to at least let those younger guys soak up as much knowledge as they can from him. If he is RB4 or 5 come 53 man roster, honestly, so be it, more time for the younger RBs to learn. (I still think he will need to earn it though)
DJackson10
Footballguy
What a waste of a roster spot. He's becoming the New Brett Favre. Just retire already
DJackson10
Footballguy
They got a couple of guys who can do it. Scott, DeSean, Thompkins, as well as Clement. There's others on the roster who have done it but that was just off the top of my head.
Insein
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
In many ways the Eagles would be better off if he can’t make the team because guys like Sanders, Howard, Clement and Scott are too good to cut.
Insein
Footballguy
Agreed. Sproles is there to push those guys and be a veteran fall back if one of them gets hurt or sucks. I think those 4 are the group though in the end.
jerseys finest
Footballguy
I agree, as long as he is outplayed to get there. I would also prefer for him not to make the team honestly, that means to me the younger ones who did showed they were superior to him. I stand by my point that he has to earn his way on, he won't just be given a spot. We can't discount the knowledge or leadership of Sproles either. Its a big deal for team chemistry. And lets not forget that sanders has been battling injury issues all offseason (our receiving back) and Scotts hype was early(and cooled since) and centered around his returner ability. I think if sproles beats out Scott, its for return duties and as a safety net if sanders isn't healthy or doesn't get up to speed fast enough because of his injury. Clement is what he is, a solid NFL backup. Scott can be put on the practice squad for a year if need be. Knowing this will be Sproles last year and a year to hone his game, maybe he doesn't jump to another offer.
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I like the signing. No downside. Really hope he can work a ton with Sanders in camp, especially on some pass catching stuff. I think he'd be an amazing mentor for that part of Sanders' game.
Everytime people count him out and say he's done, he still shows burst. Injuries obviously a gigantic concern but we're so deep at RB that having him as the 5th RB is fine with me.
Everytime people count him out and say he's done, he still shows burst. Injuries obviously a gigantic concern but we're so deep at RB that having him as the 5th RB is fine with me.
I think we keep 5. I think we did that once before a couple years ago, didn't we? With the special teams factor of Scott, it justifies 5.
Howard
Sanders
Scott
Sproles
Clement/Smallwood/Adams can battle it out for the final spot. We don't need multiple of these guys.
Howard
Sanders
Scott
Sproles
Clement/Smallwood/Adams can battle it out for the final spot. We don't need multiple of these guys.
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DJackson10
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I'm not saying he's as talented as Sporles but we kind of have his skillset in Scott already. I get some of the reasons for liking bring Sproles back but some of these like he can help the young guys and such well could they have not just said hey we would like you to come help out but theres no role on the actual team to play we can bring you back in an advisory/coach type role and see how that goes. At this point Sproles is the NFL's new Brett Favre without all the drama of will he or won't he retire.Deamon said:
The whole return thing we got guys who can do it including DeSean to return punts. Sproles hasn't had a PR TD in the last 4 yrs now. He was fairly underwhelming at it and you could tell he's lost a step or two as I saw guys making plays on him that prime SProles you'd have some serious concerns the defender may have broken both ankles on the play. Same thing with Vick I saw, I remember him doing his usual run around the pocket don't get killed Schtick and rolled to his left and started to run for the First down marker. This DE (I can't remember his name) tackles him barely by the legs and shoelaces. This DE was not known for his athleticism by any means so the play was kind of surprising. Prime Vick would've beaten the guy and the DE is left tackling AIR 5 seconds after committing to the play and Vick is 20 yards down field by now. Point is Sproles is no where near the guy he once was and that speed was a major factor If they wanted a Sproles replacement Austin Ekler was that guy to get.
jerseys finest
Footballguy
I think what it really boils down to is "does Sproles still have enough in the tank to beat out Scott and shows that he deserves to be on the roster", not just for his wealth of knowledge.
Currently on the 90 man roster, he is a teacher to the younger guys and insurance that can play in the return game and as a 3rd down back in case of any preseason injuries. Sanders isn't healthy yet. Scott has not done enough to secure his roster spot either. I really hope both of those things change through training camp though.
I think currently, Howard/Sanders/Clement are locks for the roster.
If they keep 5, Smallwood/Adams are the 2 on the outside looking in I'd think. if they keep 4 its smallwood/adams and either Scott or sproles looking in too.
I dont think Clement is a lock at all. I think we take 5 and 2 of Clement/Smallwood/Sproles make the team. Adams/Pump are out.
jasvic
Footballguy
I think you guys are underestimating Pederson's man-crush for Sproles. Unless he's absolutely awful, I think he's a lock to make the roster. I hope I'm wrong because I also think this is a waste, but I think that's the reality. Also how much veteran guidance can he really give? RB is one of the easiest positions, which is why rookies RBs can have an impact so quickly compared to other positions.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Plus it's not like our RB coach use to the play the position either and pretty dam good at it too
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Howie worked the RB depth beautifully but Doug needed his security blanket and Howie delivered. #bestfrontoffice
babydemon90
Footballguy
I mean who'd we really care if he beats out? Clements? Adams? Smallwood? Sorry they're JAG. Appreciate that Clement had 2 good plays in the Super Bowl, but you can't live off that forever.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
sproles will be on IR before Halloween.....
jasvic
Footballguy
I'm more concerned about taking touches away from Sanders, assuming he's as good as the team hopes. Also I'm a Smallwood fan, like the way he plays. Agreed about Clements and Adams.
jerseys finest
Footballguy
The only way he takes touches away from sanders is if he were hurt or didn't pick up the offense quick enough. Sproles fills more holes incase of those situations than anyone else can. Its a safe/smart move at RB4 or 5.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I think people are underrating Clement and Adams. Quite frankly I was more impressed with Corey Clement when he was at Wisconsin then I ever was with Miles Sanders one inconsistent year at PSU. Maybe I'm being biased on Adams as I use to watch the kid in HS but the dude is talented. My theory is maybe he's not the fit profile wise for the Eagles offense and would be better utilized on another team. Clement has become a better pass blocker and many underrated his pass catching skills as a back as he didn't do a ton of it in college. I'd rather they keep Clement over Sproles who in the last 2 yrs you wouldn't be able to say you can consistently rely on plus he's done very little to impress anyone over the last few yrs.
DJackson10
Footballguy
The fact that Sanders didn't practice much in rookie camp before getting hurt is concerning. At where they picked him and given his position he should've been on the field. Gut feeling for me says once Sidney Jones is off the team next year Sanders is gonna be my new punching bag of names to go after somehow or way.
jerseys finest
Footballguy
agreed completely. I'm not expecting a "redshirt year" for him or anything, but it may take him until mid season to truly claim the full #2 RB spot based solely off of this offseason so far.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I've been of the belief if you are drafted that high at a position you can make an impact early that easily then maybe you shouldn't have been drafted that high if you can't grasp it. RB is one of the easiest positions to learn in the NFL. The Eagles offense playbook from what I've been told isn't the Andy Reid West Coast terminology rocket science it was when the first few yrs and given the hybrid West Coast spread style Pederson has implemented the terminology is a lot easier these days for players to grasp. If you want a good read on the foundation of the offense the Athletic if you are a member had a great article last August I even linked the article on here gives some good insight.
The Noid
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I think the opposite, that most overrate them both. Specifically, Clement as a pass catcher and blocker that is healthy, and Adams as a roster-worthy RB.
Clement has averaged 1.2 catches/game in 27 regular season games, on 1.5 targets. He hasn't done a ton of it in the NFL, to prove anything, either. His 2017 playoffs could be a glimpse, or it could be an aberration. A 36 year-old, that's smaller and lighter than him, immediately vaulted past him as the best pass-protecting RB on the roster, and he's coming off a more severe injury than Sproles had last year (and still hasn't been on the practice field yet this year.)
Adams was historically bad last year on short yardage:
3rd/4th down, =<2 yards to go: 10 carries, 3 yards, 0 TD, 0 first downs (0.0 conversion percentage)
That's an average of 10.8 inches gained when given the chance to make a key conversion. A football is 11.5 inches, btw. Add that to the fact that he's a pass-blocking liability, isn't a good pass catcher, and has an injury history and I don't see why he gets any hype in today's NFL where skilled RBs aren't even getting drafted.
There's no "wasted roster spot" when the rosters are at 90. If Sproles makes the 53, it will probably be because he wasn't outperformed by guys like Clement, Adams, Smallwood, Scott or Pumphrey (or some of those guys got injured.) And if he is outperformed because one or more of those guys step-up, then I hope they do the right thing and move on from him.
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DJackson10
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I actually think a ton of people overrate Sproles these days. He's a great buy but he's the new Brett Favre. Just retire already. You've won a SB and the last 2 yrs have ended do to severe injuries. If he wants to come back as some sort of camp adviser or something or another team role they can give him then great. I want these young players getting all the chance they can and reps possible, Bringing in a 36-37 yrs old guy who if he makes the team is probably out for the year by week 5 is just stealing valuable reps for these guys. I think people are afraid to say anything bad about Sproles but honestly it's selfishness at this point. He hasn't done anything special in the last 3 yrs. The Pitt game with the over 150 yds receiving was his best game and that was 3 yrs ago. If they wanted a Veteran RB then why just not sign Frank Gore or bring Blount back?The Noid said:
Will be ready to quote this when the lil guy scores his first td this year.
But seriously, I dont get the frustration here. We're talking about a 4th or 5th rb. Do you really think Howie is dumb? That he would bring a guy back that was worse than a guy like Clement/Adams who may be the future of our team? I think if anything, we should have faith in Howie/Doug, and if Darren makes the team, it's for a reason. And their reason is probably smarter and more informed than yours. This is as no-lose of a signing as you could possibly make in the league.
jasvic
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Should I rent a house near the Sugar House? I see you guys call it fishtown? relatively safe area? anything else near there?
Or should I get a place just off of South Street? gonna be wanting bars and restaurants
Amused to Death
Footballguy
There's a Goose Island brew pub right across the street from Sugar House. And a comedy club.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
didn't really look at the schedule before now. i gotta be honest, it is super manageable.
The toughest stretch opponent-wise is CHI, NE, SEA, all of which are at home and have a bye in the middle.
They've got 4 of the 5 on the road before that, but they are not terrible (@GB, @MIN, @DAL, @BUF)
Playing the NFC North and AFC East are probably about as good as you can get. No west coast trips. Honestly, I would guess that the Eagles might have the fewest miles traveled in the league. (WAS and NYG might beat them, though. Amazingly, none of the NFC East's games against the NFC West are on the road.)
The toughest stretch opponent-wise is CHI, NE, SEA, all of which are at home and have a bye in the middle.
They've got 4 of the 5 on the road before that, but they are not terrible (@GB, @MIN, @DAL, @BUF)
Playing the NFC North and AFC East are probably about as good as you can get. No west coast trips. Honestly, I would guess that the Eagles might have the fewest miles traveled in the league. (WAS and NYG might beat them, though. Amazingly, none of the NFC East's games against the NFC West are on the road.)
Insein
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Blame Bryce Harper.Long Ball Larry said:
https://www.nj.com/eagles/2019/04/why-do-the-eagles-play-3-straight-road-games-it-has-to-do-with-phillies-bryce-harper.html
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