***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Szczesny is doing one hell of an impression of Tim Howard vs Belgium here

15 for Howard in that game, the record. Szczęsny already at 9.....lol

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Is Denmark now the highest ranked team going into the tournament to be eliminated in the group stage?

I wanted to reply with Italy if you had worded it a little differently

crazy they didn't qualify

If you want to know why FIFA is anxious to expand the field look no further than Europe. And to be fair, there's no chance Italy isn't one of the top 16 teams in the world, much less top 32. Euro qualifying is brutal if you get a bad draw and hit poor form.

While Euro qualification can be brutal, Italy only have themselves to blame. They lost to North Macedonia, while at home, to get eliminated. That may have been worse than the US losing away at wet and bumpy.

Even if they hadn't screwed that up though they still would have had to play Portugal to get in. So one of those two teams was going to be out.

It really is tough. Our equivalent this round would be if you took one of the top teams out of the ocho (Mexico or Canada) and left us with the rest of them. So USA, either Mex/Canada, and then the usual group of Honduras, Panama, Jamaica, etc.

To lock in a spot we'd have to finish first in that group, ahead of either Mex/Canada and all the rest. If we managed 2nd, we'd go into a single elimination playoff where we'd have to win 2-3 games, one of which could be a team as similar to us as Mex/Canada.

We likely would not have qualified for this WC with that setup.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Jesus how many times have we seen a team completely dominate a game only to lose it on one attack up the field?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Szczesny is doing one hell of an impression of Tim Howard vs Belgium here

15 for Howard in that game, the record. Szczęsny already at 9.....lol

and that Belgium game went 120 minutes too!

 

[AAABatteries]

Argentina has already had 7 shots on goal.

The corollary to us getting Netherlands and then Poland possibly is Argentina would get Australia then Netherlands/US - that's about as good a draw as any top team could ask for to get to the semis. They will go all out to win the group.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I am not watching the Mexico game but I just checked the stats and it looks like El Tri is dominating.

 

[AAABatteries]

I am not watching the Mexico game but I just checked the stats and it looks like El Tri is dominating.

Lots of possession and some good chances but SA has had a couple good chances too - they (SA) are doing similar to Poland and just conceding possession.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Szczesny leads Poland in scrabble points with 31. Bereszynski and Krychowiak not far off the pace with 29 each. Pity poor Glick at just 9 points.

 

[AAABatteries]

So, the only way Mexico advances is as group runner-up which means if they do advance, they will get France in the round of 16. Good luck with that.

 

[AAABatteries]

Also, and I need QG to do this but Mexico either needs Argentina to put a couple past Poland or the other way around - unless they score something like 3+. They are in a bad spot at the moment.

 

[NewlyRetired]

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[NewlyRetired]

Also, and I need QG to do this but Mexico either needs Argentina to put a couple past Poland or the other way around - unless they score something like 3+. They are in a bad spot at the moment.

this is correct. Mexico needs some goals to go in, in their favor in either or more likley both games.

The Argentina game has the feeling the flood gates would open once the first one goes through but we know how that can go in this sport...

 

[AAABatteries]

Also, and I need QG to do this but Mexico either needs Argentina to put a couple past Poland or the other way around - unless they score something like 3+. They are in a bad spot at the moment.

this is correct. Mexico needs some goals to go in, in their favor in either or more likley both games.

The Argentina game has the feeling the flood gates would open once the first one goes through but we know how that can go in this sport...

Not sure - Poland will be able to bunker until they give up a goal and even then, they won't have a lot of motivation to come out unless SA has scored.

 

[Mookie]

Any result that sends El Tri and the Saudis home is a good result in my eyes.

 

[NewlyRetired]

that was coming. This should give Mexico extra incentive now

 

[AAABatteries]

Well that changes things quickly - Poland can't sit for 45 minutes hoping for a draw in the other game.

 

[NewlyRetired]

not the best hit ball ever but perfectly placed

 

[The Big Donkey]

McAllister? sounds scottish

 

[AAABatteries]

that was coming. This should give Mexico extra incentive now

It's so fascinating - Argentina may take the gas off now. Mexico needs an early goal.*



*I hope they don't get it.

 

[AAABatteries]

McAllister? sounds scottish

He's the kid that plays for Brighton and Hove Albion.

 

[gianmarco]

Btw, has Owen Goal scored yet in the tourney? If not, that's kind of crazy and might be a record, no?

 

[gianmarco]

Mexico scores

 

[AAABatteries]

There's one!

 

[NewlyRetired]

McAllister? sounds scottish

that is his lineage (along with Ireland) but the family has been in Argentina for multiple generations

 

[QuizGuy66]

Okay...deep breaths....Group C scenarios....

Poland Advance With a win or draw OR....
a loss by 1 or 2 and Saudi Arabia/Mexico draw
or
a loss by 3 and Saudi Arabia/Mexico draw and Poland scores at least the same number of goals as Saudi Arabia
or
a loss and a Mexico win and the combined margin is 2 or 3
or
a loss and a Mexico win and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico doesn't outscore them by more than 1
or
a loss and a Mexico win and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico outscores them by 2 and Poland has a better fair play record (currently Poland -4, Mexico -6)
or
a loss and a Mexico win and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico outscores them by 2 and they are tied on fair play and Poland's lucky ping pong ball is drawn


Argentina advance with a win OR....
a draw and a Saudi Arabia/Mexico draw
or
a draw and Saudi Arabia loses by 1 or 2
or
a draw and Saudi Arabia loses by 3 and Mexico doesn't outscore Argentina by 4 or more

Argentina is eliminated with a loss


Saudi Arabia advances with a win OR....
a draw and an Argentina loss
or
a draw and a Poland loss by 4 or more
or
a draw and a Poland loss by 3 and Saudi Arabia outscores Poland

Saudi Arabia is eliminated with a loss


Mexico advances with a win AND....
an Argentina Loss
or
a Poland/Argentina draw and Mexico wins by 4 or more
or
a Poland/Argentina draw and Mexico wins by 3 and Mexico outscores Argentina by 4 or more
or
a Poland loss and the combined margin is 5+
or
a Poland loss and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico outscores Poland by 3 or more
or
a Poland loss and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico outscores Poland by 2 and Mexico has a better fair play record (currently Poland -4, Mexico -6)
or
a Poland loss and the combined margin is 4 and Mexico outscores them by 2 and they are tied on fair play and Poland's lucky ping pong ball is drawn

Mexico is eliminated with a draw or loss


So there ya go

-QG

Repost
-QG

 

[NewlyRetired]

two quick goals change the complexion so fast.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Basically Mexico is rooting for Poland
-QG

 

[AAABatteries]

Funny thing is - that's almost a good thing for Poland unless SA collapse. They were more of a threat to Poland than Mexico.

 

[AAABatteries]

Basically Mexico is rooting for Poland
-QG

Or Argentina to put a couple more in.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Mexico now wants Argentina to put 3 more past Poland
-QG

 

[BassNBrew]

pk to Argie!!

I must be behind you but that's never a penalty for me. I have to wonder how much that has to do with it being Messi.

Why isn't it a penalty? Can a field player eye gouge an opponent?

 

[AAABatteries]

F'n Mexico

 

[NewlyRetired]

wow, El Tri right back in the picture!!

 

[Jayrod]

Btw, has Owen Goal scored yet in the tourney? If not, that's kind of crazy and might be a record, no?

I mentioned this during the US match yesterday. I believe he is being shut out after winning the golden boot last WC.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Have there been any red cards yet? I guess there was maybe the 1?
-QG

 

[AAABatteries]

I could see SA totally collapse. Poland may need a goal.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

 

[Jayrod]

wow, El Tri right back in the picture!!

What a shot on that goal.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I guess it depends on how the differential gets tied. I’m thinking of Argentina scoring once more

If Mexico scores again, they would have it unless Poland acores

 

[gianmarco]

Really any score here in this Argentina/Poland match helps them. Next one either ties it up or makes it a 2 goal lead.

 

[Jayrod]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

I believe it goes to Goals scored next, right?

 

[NewlyRetired]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

Argentina and Poland are not competing on GD. They can't end up level on points no matter what the result is today.

 

[AAABatteries]

The Mexico-SA match has turned chaotic - love it.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

I believe it goes to Goals scored next, right?

Yes, which is still tied right now

 

[Jayrod]

Really any score here in this Argentina/Poland match helps them. Next one either ties it up or makes it a 2 goal lead.

I think Mexico is still out with a ARG/POL tie as they'd be behind both in goal differential.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

I believe it goes to Goals scored next, right?

correct, but Poland and Argentina can't be level on points so they are not going to need a tie breaker. The tie breaker will involve Argie and one other if it is to occur

 

[BassNBrew]

Would you guys consider Messi lazy or a master at conserving energy?

 

[TripleThreat]

Offsides takes the 3rd away from mex

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So if Argentina and Poland are tied in goal differential, are they going to have to go down to conduct as the tiebreaker?

Argentina and Poland are not competing on GD. They can't end up level on points no matter what the result is today.

Sorry, I’m an idiot. Meant Poland and Mexico

 

[RCon]

Have there been any red cards yet? I guess there was maybe the 1?
-QG

There was the goalie that tried to karate kick the opposing player a half-mile away from the goal...