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*** Official 2024 Atlantic Hurricane Season Thread - Leslie, Milton *** and Helene (10 Viewers)

Dr_Zaius said:
A bunch of tornado warnings for the Raleigh-Durham area this morning, but I haven't heard any reports of actual tornados on the ground. Looks like the western part of the state is getting much worse in the way of rain and flash flooding.
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Looks really bad around Asheville
 
SWC said:
i hope that everyone is safe and doing as well as they can what is nuts to me is that i read about this hurricane and its path in an article earlier this week that said the storm had not formed yet so they knew this baby was going to form and where it was going to go before it happened that is some serious sciencing and that is probably saving lives take that to the bank brohans
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Yeah, this is an interesting situation. The typical Met would say models outside of 168 hours should not be viewed. However for the first time in awhile we had multiple models out to 240hrs that matched well, prompting someone like Andy Hazelton to put a video out saying (hey, there is probably something to this). Then they more or less came true.

I think 168 hrs is probably still the right model verification timeline that anyone should view.

Also just face palm at those that were like "but it was supposed to go over atlanta". Land interaction is very hard to model.
 
I’m pretty sure this will be the most harmful Natural Disaster in Tampa Bay history.

And it didn’t need to hit nearby. Heavy and late rainy season + high tide + storm surge…
 
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Dr_Zaius said:
A bunch of tornado warnings for the Raleigh-Durham area this morning, but I haven't heard any reports of actual tornados on the ground. Looks like the western part of the state is getting much worse in the way of rain and flash flooding.
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Looks really bad around Asheville
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Yeah it is. There is a lake south east of there called Lake Lure which is in the valley down near where my brother is. The lake breached the dam so it is in some danger of failure. They have had to release a crap ton of water which has meant massive issues down river with evacuations and really high water. It's bad.
 
ChiefD said:
sho nuff said:
Dr_Zaius said:
A bunch of tornado warnings for the Raleigh-Durham area this morning, but I haven't heard any reports of actual tornados on the ground. Looks like the western part of the state is getting much worse in the way of rain and flash flooding.
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Looks really bad around Asheville
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Yeah it is. There is a lake south east of there called Lake Lure which is in the valley down near where my brother is. The lake breached the dam so it is in some danger of failure. They have had to release a crap ton of water which has meant massive issues down river with evacuations and really high water. It's bad.
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Yeah obviously coastal flooding due to storm surge is what everybody thinks of when it comes to flooding from hurricanes, but mountainous areas can be really susceptible if hit with a big tropical storm. If you drive around rural Pennsylvania you'll occasionally see signs for where water levels hit in the aftermath of Hurricane Agnes in 1972 and it's mind-boggling. Hopefully no dam failures add to deluge.
 
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ChiefD said:
Brother getting nailed in western North Carolina. If you look at a weather map and see the the center of the storm - he's basically right under that. Lost power. There is a river flood warning and mandatory evacuations yesterday. Lucky for him he built his house up in the mountains so all good there. He's lost trees for sure and they are in the thick of it right now.
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Saw videos of Asheville near Biltmore Estates lastnight were cars were driving almost completely under water. Looks really bad there.
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That was from rain not associated with this storm that they were already dealing with. And its really bad there.
 
Pics and vids out of Newport Tennessee are crazy
NEWPORT, Tenn. — An emergency evacuation is underway in Newport, Tennessee, after a dam suffered a "catastrophic failure" amid the torrential rains brought forth by what was Hurricane Helene.

Tennessee Emergency managers are telling everyone in the downtown area of Newport to leave immediately due to the failure of the Walters Dam along the Pigeon River, and the National Weather Service has issued a Flash Flood Emergency.

The break was reported at 3:30 p.m. ET and NWS officials said a flood wave of water will rush down the Pigeon River over the next three to four hours, reaching downtown Newport about 6 p.m. ET.

The region has received between 5 and 7 inches of rain so far, with more rain falling, according to NOAA.
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This guy is on the ground streaming from Newport https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1159016062514972
 
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rustycolts said:
My favorite hideaway is done. I love Cedar Key but 3 of these things in 13 months. I think this may have been the knockout.

I've stayed at the Far Away many times. I guess not anymore judging by the video MOP posted.
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That sucks rusty. Thoughts out to you, the Far Away owners, and all those affected.
 
sho nuff said:
Dr_Zaius said:
A bunch of tornado warnings for the Raleigh-Durham area this morning, but I haven't heard any reports of actual tornados on the ground. Looks like the western part of the state is getting much worse in the way of rain and flash flooding.
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Looks really bad around Asheville
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Probably once in 10,000 year flooding.

Swannanoa - Normal 1ft, Major flood 16.5ft, record 20.7, currently 26.1

French Broad Fletcher - Normal 4ft, Major flood 20 ft, record 20.1ft, currently 29.5ft
 
Dr_Zaius said:
If you drive around rural Pennsylvania you'll occasionally see signs for where water levels hit in the aftermath of Hurricane Agnes in 1972 and it's mind-boggling. Hopefully no dam failures add to deluge.
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I’m here. Agnes was ready bad. 2 towns within 15 miles of me were hammered a month ago from Debby. Worst flooding they ever had including ‘72
 
Cam Ward with his 2nd TD in 5 minutes, on the sexiest playaction fake you will see all year

EDIT: Cam Ward is playing football in Florida, where Helene made landfall.
 
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The video and photos that are rolling out are devastating in Florida, western NC and eastern TN. It feels like this storm popped out of nowhere but the devastation from this is tremendous.

A daughter of friends of ours barely escaped with her life. She was part of a missions group at a camp in NC. One of the guys spotted a mudslide coming down the mountain and they took off running. The mudslide took out the large cabin they had gathered in and swept away the rest of the cabins as well. They had to use ropes to get across a raging river to get to safety. Thankfully the only injury was my friend’s daughter who broke her ankle while running from the mudslide. Crazy stuff.
 
Now that everything is settling, it appears there are thousands of families now without livable homes around Tampa Bay. Lots of pleas on social media for 6-month rentals. Kids needing to be near their schools. Parents near work. I’m not sure how this is going to get back to normal anytime soon.
 
Previous recorded surge high on Clearwater Beach was 4 feet. It reached 6.5 feet on Thursday.
 
How much longer before it’s impossible to get home insurance in Florida? They were just showing on the Weather Channel damage to condos that had just finished being rebuilt 2 months ago from the previous hurricane. Just horrible.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
gump said:
Previous recorded surge high on Clearwater Beach was 4 feet. It reached 6.5 feet on Thursday.
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The most amazing thing to me about this factoid is that Clearwater has never had a 7'+ storm surge. Imagine what 15-20' feet would do.
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My friend in that area thinks he pretty much got cleaned out. Two feet of water through his house. He stayed at a neighbors who has a second story.
 
There are maps floating around that show a non-trivial section of western NC and eastern TN are completely cut off by land -- there are NO roads in or out of the entire area. With no running water, cell service or electricity in parts of that same area. This is going to require an absolutely massive state + federal response.

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Rustoleum said:
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
gump said:
Previous recorded surge high on Clearwater Beach was 4 feet. It reached 6.5 feet on Thursday.
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The most amazing thing to me about this factoid is that Clearwater has never had a 7'+ storm surge. Imagine what 15-20' feet would do.
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My friend in that area thinks he pretty much got cleaned out. Two feet of water through his house. He stayed at a neighbors who has a second story.
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Why are we hearing so much from the Tampa area but not much north of there? Is the TSP area the only big population center on that side of the coast?
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Rustoleum said:
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
gump said:
Previous recorded surge high on Clearwater Beach was 4 feet. It reached 6.5 feet on Thursday.
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The most amazing thing to me about this factoid is that Clearwater has never had a 7'+ storm surge. Imagine what 15-20' feet would do.
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My friend in that area thinks he pretty much got cleaned out. Two feet of water through his house. He stayed at a neighbors who has a second story.
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Why are we hearing so much from the Tampa area but not much north of there? Is the TSP area the only big population center on that side of the coast?
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Pretty much
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Rustoleum said:
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
gump said:
Previous recorded surge high on Clearwater Beach was 4 feet. It reached 6.5 feet on Thursday.
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The most amazing thing to me about this factoid is that Clearwater has never had a 7'+ storm surge. Imagine what 15-20' feet would do.
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My friend in that area thinks he pretty much got cleaned out. Two feet of water through his house. He stayed at a neighbors who has a second story.
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Why are we hearing so much from the Tampa area but not much north of there? Is the TSP area the only big population center on that side of the coast?
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It’s mostly small coastal villages going north. But towns like Palm Harbor, Tarpon Springs, and Crystal River got the same thing…just will be much, much less costly
 
GroveDiesel said:
How much longer before it’s impossible to get home insurance in Florida? They were just showing on the Weather Channel damage to condos that had just finished being rebuilt 2 months ago from the previous hurricane. Just horrible.
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I mean I wonder what math you have to do to pencil any profit in that world. Is the math "if the cost is X then declare bankruptcy" otherwise I just don't get it.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
There are maps floating around that show a non-trivial section of western NC and eastern TN are completely cut off by land -- there are NO roads in or out of the entire area. With no running water, cell service or electricity in parts of that same area. This is going to require an absolutely massive state + federal response.

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Just heard 26 south of Asheville is open. Guy got out headed to Ga/Alabama game.
 
GroveDiesel said:
How much longer before it’s impossible to get home insurance in Florida? They were just showing on the Weather Channel damage to condos that had just finished being rebuilt 2 months ago from the previous hurricane. Just horrible.
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For millions there, thats already the case.
 
Cedar Key from right before the storm to watching some fo the small motels just washed away in the storm, just frightening and remember they didn't take a direct hit from the eye of the storm, they were very close and on the dirty side of the storm which in some ways they had it worse than the folks in the city of Perry if that's even possible

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It will make you sad watching that video so i apologize but it shows you the impact this had on some folks
I know things are also not good up in the Mountains, lot of folks in my different leagues have been texting
One guy has 2 young kids and was looking after 4 more kids total with his wife, another couple was on vacation
They had 6 kids under 7 yrs old and the power went out for 24+ hours, I can't think of a worse situation but I'm sure others would welcome the challenge
 
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