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Going out to same course again today. Bringing my BIL and planning to walk. But also now I have a strategy on ~4 holes that's different from yesterday having seen what line to take now vs what it looked like just from the map. Will be interesting.
 
20 rounds with the new clubs and I finally broke 90 with an 89. Still getting used to these things but I see the progress.
Similar experience today and about the same number of rounds in. Something clicked on the back 9 and I finally started controlling my yardage. Frustrating front 9 as I missed deep (crisp contact) three times and played too much fade four times, but I found the right balance with an 8i from 145 out on 12 then didn't miss a green on an approach again, finishing with a 7 footer for bird on 18.
Yeah I'm finding the good shots annoy me more than the bad ones because I know I can do it. It's just remembering the new swing and club lengths.
 
Starting four days of golf today. Playing Monday because I qualified for my club's team as the low gross player. Will probably get my *** kicked but will enjoy the heck out of playing in that spot for my club.
Update: Don't have to play as a scratch! I'm our first handicapped player so I'll likely be giving some strokes but a better player qualified as our scratch guy thankfully so I don't have to be the sacrificial lamb.
Update: My club killed it. We beat them 30.5 - 5.5 in total points. I won my match 2.5 - .5 (won the front easily up three and halved the back). I had to give two strokes to my opponent and I knew I was in good shape when I could see the concern on my opponent's face after I outdrove him and his driver with my hybrid on the first shot. Generally, I know whether I am playing a "good" match play opponent if he appears unimpressed by my practice swing and recognizes that handicaps exist for a reason and he just has to trust his game and ignore mine.

I missed three two-footers on the back to prevent me from taking the clean sweep including a four-putt on a par five I reached in two. Oddly, I made like three fifteen footers and hit some really nice lag putts so stats probably evened out, but it's just a bummer to miss out on the clean sweep due to some bad short putts. I have a new LAB putter and I just haven't trained my brain yet to be okay just bricking the putt at the hole.

Super fun nonetheless and feels good to win as a team with everybody on our team crushing it.
 
Played again today...same course, 13 over on the back 9, which we played first, vs 12 over for the course yesterday.

Finished 21 over.

Definitely had better strategy on a few holes now that I know them. Just a couple factors:

1. Luck went about as badly as it can go. Had one awesome good bounce but a bunch of bad ones and bad lies.

2. I walked today, and it was more humid, so I was tired somewhat on a few shots after long climbs up hills. Very hilly course.

3. A few penalties today. Mostly from bad lies but one from a tee shot that if I had kept it a yard more to the right would have been on the green of a par 4. Also landed in 2 fairway bunkers and a green side one.

Still feeling really good about my game. Excited to go again tomorrow.
 
Second hole: triple
Eighteenth hole: double

All other holes: 7 pars, 9 bogeys

14 over

Actually the best I've played the 18th yet. Hole is very hard with a very fast and slopey green.

Left a LOT of putts out there today. I think as nice as everything is at this course, the greens are inconsistent. I feel like I hit the same putt five times and 1 was good 2 were long and 2 were short and it wasn't because of up or down hill.

Had a great moment. This old foursome I catch on 10 and 11 waits on the 12th tee when they see my approach on 11 (where I think all four of them took 4 shots to get on, it's a long lar 4) lands pin high just in the rough. I grabbed putter and wedge, put it to ten feet, put the putt like 8 inches away, tapped in for bogey. I get to the next tee box and they're like come on through, not much ahead of us, you look pretty professional only taking two clubs to the green there!

I reply that I'm not very good but do play quickly so thank you and one guy goes well let's see another one right by the flag here. Proceed to thin the crap out of a 9 iron but it rolls pin high on this par 3. I said sorry that's not the show you expected, I'll try to get up and down for you.

Best chip of the day. Nestled it like 18 inches from the hole. Par. Felt so good.


The big downhill par 4...drive it almost 300 but then made a stupid choice. I just needed to get it on the green and have a 10+ ft birdie putt but a locked in par. Instead I went right at the pin, landed it perfectly, but didn't realize it sloped down so the ball rolled to the fringe. Ended with a damn bogey.
 
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Starting four days of golf today. Playing Monday because I qualified for my club's team as the low gross player. Will probably get my *** kicked but will enjoy the heck out of playing in that spot for my club.
Update: Don't have to play as a scratch! I'm our first handicapped player so I'll likely be giving some strokes but a better player qualified as our scratch guy thankfully so I don't have to be the sacrificial lamb.
Update: My club killed it. We beat them 30.5 - 5.5 in total points. I won my match 2.5 - .5 (won the front easily up three and halved the back). I had to give two strokes to my opponent and I knew I was in good shape when I could see the concern on my opponent's face after I outdrove him and his driver with my hybrid on the first shot. Generally, I know whether I am playing a "good" match play opponent if he appears unimpressed by my practice swing and recognizes that handicaps exist for a reason and he just has to trust his game and ignore mine.

I missed three two-footers on the back to prevent me from taking the clean sweep including a four-putt on a par five I reached in two. Oddly, I made like three fifteen footers and hit some really nice lag putts so stats probably evened out, but it's just a bummer to miss out on the clean sweep due to some bad short putts. I have a new LAB putter and I just haven't trained my brain yet to be okay just bricking the putt at the hole.

Super fun nonetheless and feels good to win as a team with everybody on our team crushing it.

really miss the interclub matches, Ryder Cup type stuff. Sounds like you are playing pretty solid - hdcp around 4-5 now?
 
Starting four days of golf today. Playing Monday because I qualified for my club's team as the low gross player. Will probably get my *** kicked but will enjoy the heck out of playing in that spot for my club.
Update: Don't have to play as a scratch! I'm our first handicapped player so I'll likely be giving some strokes but a better player qualified as our scratch guy thankfully so I don't have to be the sacrificial lamb.
Update: My club killed it. We beat them 30.5 - 5.5 in total points. I won my match 2.5 - .5 (won the front easily up three and halved the back). I had to give two strokes to my opponent and I knew I was in good shape when I could see the concern on my opponent's face after I outdrove him and his driver with my hybrid on the first shot. Generally, I know whether I am playing a "good" match play opponent if he appears unimpressed by my practice swing and recognizes that handicaps exist for a reason and he just has to trust his game and ignore mine.

I missed three two-footers on the back to prevent me from taking the clean sweep including a four-putt on a par five I reached in two. Oddly, I made like three fifteen footers and hit some really nice lag putts so stats probably evened out, but it's just a bummer to miss out on the clean sweep due to some bad short putts. I have a new LAB putter and I just haven't trained my brain yet to be okay just bricking the putt at the hole.

Super fun nonetheless and feels good to win as a team with everybody on our team crushing it.

really miss the interclub matches, Ryder Cup type stuff. Sounds like you are playing pretty solid - hdcp around 4-5 now?
Yep. 5.1 I believe. And I think I'm playing consistently as one which is nice as opposed to the rollercoaster of variance.
 
Second hole: triple
Eighteenth hole: double

All other holes: 7 pars, 9 bogeys

14 over

Actually the best I've played 18 yet. Hope is very hard with a very fast and sloppy green.

Left a LOT of putts out there today. I think as nice as everything is at this course, the greens are inconsistent. I feel like I hit the same putt five times and 1 was good 2 were long and 2 were short and it wasn't because of up or down hill.

Had a great moment. This old foursome I catch on 10 and 11 waits on the 12th tee when they see my approach on 11 (where I think all four of them took 4 shots to get on, it's a long lar 4) lands pin high just in the rough. I grabbed putter and wedge, put it to ten feet, put the putt like 8 inches away, tapped in for bogey. I get to the next tee box and they're like come on through, not much ahead of us, you look pretty professional only taking two clubs to the green there!

I reply that I'm not very good but do play quickly so thank you and one guy goes well let's see another one right by the flag here. Proceed to thin the crap out of a 9 iron but it rolls pin high on this par 3. I said sorry that's not the show you expected, I'll try to get up and down for you.

Best chip of the day. Nestled it like 18 inches from the hole. Par. Felt so good.


The big downhill par 4...drive it almost 300 but then made a stupid choice. I just needed to get it on the green and have a 10+ ft birdie putt but a locked in par. Instead I went right at the pin, landed it perfectly, but didn't realize it slowed down so the ball rolled to the fringe. Ended with a damn bogey.
:lmao: Nothing worse than hitting a poor shot right in front of the group letting you through. Glad you justified their decision.

My wife got to experience this just this past weekend. We play a lot of Sundays as our "dates" now that we both play a lot and our playing partners dropped last minute so we got stuck behind four balls as a two ball. We aren't in a hurry but it gets annoyingly slow even though we are both playing about as slow as our comfort levels will permit. Group directly in front of us was ridiculously slow (1.5 holes behind - I almost pulled the "board member card" and tattled on them) so I made the decision to just skip ahead of them with them exclaiming "there are other groups in front!" as I give them the courtesy waive and point so they knew what we were doing. We catch up to the next foursome after the next hole and they are surprised but do the right thing and offer us to play through after they hit their drives. They joked that we better hit good ones which made my wife nervous.

Hole is a short par 5 with a bottleneck about 300 yards up the fairway to squeeze the longer hitters playing something other than the tips. I put a three wood dead center past their drives into the heart of the bottleneck. My wife then steps up to the women's tees and cranks one probably 240 down the middle and winds up sitting right next to my drive - well past the four guys' drives that I recognized as regular players. Dudes' jaws were dropped. My wife was very happy and I was very proud of her. I explained to her that there isn't anything much more nerve-wracking in golf than hitting your tee shot quickly but well in front of the group letting you go through.
 
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Second hole: triple
Eighteenth hole: double

All other holes: 7 pars, 9 bogeys

14 over

Actually the best I've played 18 yet. Hope is very hard with a very fast and sloppy green.

Left a LOT of putts out there today. I think as nice as everything is at this course, the greens are inconsistent. I feel like I hit the same putt five times and 1 was good 2 were long and 2 were short and it wasn't because of up or down hill.

Had a great moment. This old foursome I catch on 10 and 11 waits on the 12th tee when they see my approach on 11 (where I think all four of them took 4 shots to get on, it's a long lar 4) lands pin high just in the rough. I grabbed putter and wedge, put it to ten feet, put the putt like 8 inches away, tapped in for bogey. I get to the next tee box and they're like come on through, not much ahead of us, you look pretty professional only taking two clubs to the green there!

I reply that I'm not very good but do play quickly so thank you and one guy goes well let's see another one right by the flag here. Proceed to thin the crap out of a 9 iron but it rolls pin high on this par 3. I said sorry that's not the show you expected, I'll try to get up and down for you.

Best chip of the day. Nestled it like 18 inches from the hole. Par. Felt so good.


The big downhill par 4...drive it almost 300 but then made a stupid choice. I just needed to get it on the green and have a 10+ ft birdie putt but a locked in par. Instead I went right at the pin, landed it perfectly, but didn't realize it slowed down so the ball rolled to the fringe. Ended with a damn bogey.
:lmao: Nothing worse than hitting a poor shot right in front of the group letting you through. Glad you justified their decision.

My wife got to experience this just this past weekend. We play a lot of Sundays as our "dates" now that we both play a lot and our playing partners dropped last minute so we got stuck behind four balls as a two ball. We aren't in a hurry but it gets annoyingly slow even though we are both playing about as slow as our comfort levels will permit. Group directly in front of us was ridiculously slow (1.5 holes behind - I almost pulled the "board member card" and tattled on them) so I made the decision t- just skip ahead of them with them exclaiming "there are other groups in front!" as I give them the courtesy waive and point so they knew what we were doing. We catch up to the next foursome after the next hole and they are surprised but do the right thing and offer us to play through after they hit their drives. They joked that we better hit good ones which made my wife nervous.

Hole is a short par 5 with a bottleneck about 300 yards up the fairway to squeeze the longer hitters playing something other than the tips. I put a three wood dead center past their drives into the heart of the bottleneck. My wife then steps up to the women's tees and cranks one probably 240 down the middle and winds up sitting right next to my drive - well past the four guys' drives that I recognized as regular players. Dudes' jaws were dropped. My wife was very happy and I was very proud of her. I explained to her that there isn't anything much more nerve-wracking in golf than hitting your tee shot quickly but well in front of the group letting you go through.
That's awesome. Hope my wife gets there eventually haha
 
Gotta share this. As I outlined last year, I took up golf again after a 30 year hiatus and upon retirement. New clubs, new friends, having a great time, and steadily improving. Handicap had gone from 31 to 24.
Yesterday I got my first eagle! 450 yard par 5 from the seniors tees, hammered my drive dead straight 260, had 190 to a back pin, green heavily guarded by bunkers in front at 170.
190 is a 5i for me, but I didn't like my chances over those bunkers, so I took 6i and hoped to fly them and get decent roll.
That feeling when you envision a perfect shot, and then IT HAPPENS!? That was the feeling. My cartmate ooohed and aahed as it flew true, a baby draw, landed on the green, and ran. God - I'll play the game forever chasing that feeling.
Got up there and it was 15 feet behind the pin. Must have nearly gone in. Almost a dead flat putt and it rolled right in.
There was much rejoicing. Us 70-year-olds don't make eagle that often.
 
Final round up here at this club - 19 over. Tale of two rounds though. Front nine was 6 doubles, two bogeys, and a par. Just really bad. Couldn't get my tee shots where I wanted and blew every approach. Double chips galore.

Back nine was five over with two doubles, one birdie, and five more birdie putts between 6-12 feet. Everything was dialed. Killed myself on the par 4 15th that's extremely downhill though. It's wiiiiiide open so you can get after the drive and go for the green a little over ,300 out (again massively downhill though). Did the one thing I couldn't do and put it about a yard left into trees. Literally 1-30 yards right of where it went and it has a decent chance to roll on green. Put it pin high right rough on second tee shot and bogeyed the hole.
 
Tied for first both net and gross. Decided to go co-champs.

Crazy start to the round. My partner, a super solid 0 handicap, pumps ball ob on our starting hole. I hit a bad shot and nearly go ob and I wind up in play with bathroom hut in way. Problem is the nearest point of relief has tree issues so I have no choice but to chip one over the ****ter then after my partner makes a crazy bogey I drain a twenty footer downhill for par. Insane start. Felt like stealing.

We started on 18 and back is a best ball so that was our first hole. Roll to the front immediately which is alternate shot. After what felt like straight thievery I put one down the gut and in alternate shot we shoot eight pars in a row and birdie nine. That’s -1 alternates shot gross. Hit literally every green and I probably had a couple of ten footers I could made. Amazing defensive golf.

Back side we kinda let the moment get a little heavy and we only made two birdies. Lost the outright championship when we both bogeyed the easiest hole on the course - a short par 5 - we both should par in our sleep. Partner hit it in the water and I was greenside bunker in two but an awful lie caused me to skull one over the green. Net co-champs made an eagle there.

Nonetheless I went home with a trophy for club member member champion and my kids think I’m a hero that should be on tv.
 
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Played the guy from the team we tied with for an extra 18 to settle it. Best player in the club. Also happens to be my brother in law and literally the guy who taught me to play golf. He’s a 0. Im a five. Played from the tips.

71 him and 76 me. Tie it shall be.
 
Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
 
Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
No, not with my driver. I'd rather see my crappy swings.

The only thing I've done is deloft my 7 wood.
 
Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
I don't, but if it works for you why not go for it? They're adjustable for a reason. We should use whatever legal advantage we're given.

Even pros adjust their gear for weather conditions. I didn't think that's much different.
 
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Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
I don't, but if it works for you why not go for it? They're adjustable for a reason. We should use whatever legal advantage we're given.

Even pros adjust their gear for weather conditions. I didn't think that's much different.
Idk if it will work for me haha. I was trying to see if anyone doesn't and if it works before I try it and it doesn't and a round is destroyed haha
 
Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
I don't, but if it works for you why not go for it? They're adjustable for a reason. We should use whatever legal advantage we're given.

Even pros adjust their gear for weather conditions. I didn't think that's much different.
Idk if it will work for me haha. I was trying to see if anyone doesn't and if it works before I try it and it doesn't and a round is destroyed haha
Go to the range for something like this. I wouldn't do it for a round if you are unfamiliar with the change.
 
You can shoot par and are bad in bunkers? That’s unusual but great. Green side bunker shots are easy unless it’s a really bad lie. All technique.
You nailed it with the bolded. All technique. I get by because I played a lot as a youth. Never tracked, but at least one tournament per week during summer, with two rounds minimum around it. I chose running over it in high school then it fell by the wayside in college then early fatherhood. As free time has opened up again, I have progressed from a few scrambles per summer to 10-15 rounds. Once I did, muscle memory returned, and since I'm quite a bit stronger now than aged 15 the ball goes a lot further. That said, the 'shot making' swings are still a miss. Like Woz, I can hit the ball a mile in the air- the trajectory of my 7 iron looks more like a wedge. When I need an easy fade, I can pull that out of my bag of tricks at will. But stuff like the big draw? the low liner? and anything out of the sand? I'm still looking. I find the big draw by accident on occasion, but any attempts at intentionally doing it have been comically bad.

I know the first step to correction. Lessons. I'm just not in a place right now in which I'm going to think about them. In the meantime, I'm embracing my high variance golf game. Although maybe a few months from now I can add another 20 yards from distance.
When I took sand lessons it was shocking to see how inconsistent I was entering the spot I wanted in the sand. Pro drew a line and I just had to drill entering at that line every time. Assuming right bounce for you. I mostly use a 58 with less bounce because our sand is compact. But a fluffy sand like in Florida probably better suited to a 54 and more bounce to glide through

1) square stance. The way open stance method with swing following that foot line is old school. Much easier being square.
2) ball positioned at left toe
3) club face open, pointing up. Don’t want to dig unless sand is wet/compact or ball is buried. Less open or square in those cases will get the needed dig
4) 65% of weight on left side to promote descending blow
5) eyes on spot you want to enter the sand. Not on the ball. You must enter the spot. How far from the ball depends on the sand. With fluffy sand you can hit 1-2 inches behind the ball. Can’t do that with firm green side bunker sand. I aim about a 1/2 inch behind in those cases. Have to be much more precise
6) shallow is better than a steep dig
7) length of swing and speed depends on height and carry you need
8) accelerate and take out the sand underneath the ball, popping it up. Want to hear a good “thump”. Like the Dave Pelz drill where he has the ball sitting on a mound of sand on a wooden board. Gives you the visual/sensation.

If you have a descending blow and hit your spot you will get out almost every time and be putting. Disaster happens when you miss your spot. Ball first? Dead. Too far from the ball? Dead. Either you leave it in the bunker in soft sand or the bounce skids and you blade the ball, watching it line drive into the face of the bunker or scream across the green. Both are bad. Did I say how critical it is to hit your exact spot with a descending blow?

Now if I can hit the correct spot/low point on my full shots I’d be in business. Trying video lessons at GolfTec to ingrain that. Also bought the BlueBrick. Time to go to work!
I could tell the last couple rounds I was getting close. Tough to tell on one course because the sand was rock hard, but I had a good one once I put the ball on a slight elevation. The other time out I was getting the right contact, but my judgment of distance was off. Then yesterday I finally had an ah-ha moment.

It wasn't a good round. Not a carbon copy of Monday, but it was a very inconsistent first 15 holes. After losing my driver right again to start I drove the ball real well from 5-10, my irons were mostly on point from the start until 10 (one duff), and I smoked a fairway 3 wood to pin high on the par 5 8th. But my usual strength (inside 50 yards) was a trainwreck. Could not get my yardage down on the lob wedge and I struggled adjusting to greens that were playing lighting fast (my birdie putt on one almost rolled back in :lmao:) so I kept flying my chips 20 feet or so past. Then the roles reversed from 11-15. I suddenly couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but once I got within 50 yards I was great. Up-and-down one putts on 3 of the next 5 with a chip in mixed in and they were all for bogey or double. It seemed to all finally came together the final 3 holes with a bird on 16, a par on the 230 yard behometh par 3 17, then piped a drive on 18 out to 105 out dead center fairway, but then I let an easy wedge leak into the right green side bunker on 18. Is this really how I'm going to finish this round? First bunker all day, let's see what I've got left. It was deep, but I could barely see the bottom of the flag. Given the way these greens were playing, I just needed to clear the lip, land softly on the short stuff before the down slope, then let it feed to the hole. I took a big swing, knowing that when I've done this in the past I've hit the ball thin and may take out a window in the pro shop, and all I heard was a **poof** then saw the ball do exactly as I envisioned, rolling up to about 18" for a tap-in par to salvage an adventurous 89.

Ah-ha
 
Do any of y'all use the adjustable weights in driver? As I've been taking lessons to get a decent swing I've wanted to leave it totally neutral, but after a few months now of being pretty consistent, I'm wondering if in warm ups it just seems like a little fade-y or a little extra draw-y vs baseline that maybe for the day it's worth adjusting it for the round to counter that days little swing path differences?
I don't, but if it works for you why not go for it? They're adjustable for a reason. We should use whatever legal advantage we're given.

Even pros adjust their gear for weather conditions. I didn't think that's much different.
Idk if it will work for me haha. I was trying to see if anyone doesn't and if it works before I try it and it doesn't and a round is destroyed haha
Up .75. I use 1 heel bias. But that was when I was playing fades off the tee. Probably go back to neutral again
 
I need new grips. Point me in the direction of good grips at a decent price. Less than $100. I play Tommy Armour 845’s. Don’t need oversized. Just regular.
 

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