***Official 2025 Tour de France*** - Come Dope with Us! This Year Prizes!!! (7 Viewers)

[Sammy3469]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

 

[BobbyLayne]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

 

[Jaysus]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

Jens in yellow that stage!

 

[Sammy3469]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

I listened today. Bruyneel so just wants to really roast the tactics of UAE and Jumbo. He also doesn't really seem to buy Jumbo have much of an advantage since all it takes is Tadej to be aggressive to isolate him and Jonas and that Tadej should be able to do that on Stage 12 and then there is the MTT on Stage 13. They didn't really outright say it, but I took it that they think Jonas has to take time on either 12 or 13 and if he loses time on both, this is over.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Stage wins per year for United States in Tour de France.

• 1985 1 LeMond
• 1986 2 Lemond x2
• 1987 2 Phinney, Pierce
• 1988 0
• 1989 3 Lemond x3
• 1990 0
• 1991 0
• 1992 1 Hampsten
• 1993 1 LA
• 1994 0
• 1995 1 LA
• 1996 0
• 1997 0
• 1998 0
• 1999 4 LA
• 2000 1 LA
• 2001 4 LA
• 2002 4 LA
• 2003 2 LA, Hamilton
• 2004 5 LA
• 2005 3 Zabriskie, Hincapie, LA
• 2006 1 Landis
• 2007 1 Leipheimer
• 2008 0
• 2009 0
• 2010 0
• 2011 1 Farrar
• 2012 0
• 2013 0
• 2014 0
• 2015 0
• 2016 0
• 2017 0
• 2018 0
• 2019 0
• 2020 0
• 2021 1 Kuss
• 2022 0
• 2023 0
• 2024 0
• 2025 0

So dumb those are crossed out.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

I listened today. Bruyneel so just wants to really roast the tactics of UAE and Jumbo. He also doesn't really seem to buy Jumbo have much of an advantage since all it takes is Tadej to be aggressive to isolate him and Jonas and that Tadej should be able to do that on Stage 12 and then there is the MTT on Stage 13. They didn't really outright say it, but I took it that they think Jonas has to take time on either 12 or 13 and if he loses time on both, this is over.

Visma is a ridiculous team individually. Tactically, against tadej, they seem lost. I’d love to see EF run visma and see what would happen.

 

[Sammy3469]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

I listened today. Bruyneel so just wants to really roast the tactics of UAE and Jumbo. He also doesn't really seem to buy Jumbo have much of an advantage since all it takes is Tadej to be aggressive to isolate him and Jonas and that Tadej should be able to do that on Stage 12 and then there is the MTT on Stage 13. They didn't really outright say it, but I took it that they think Jonas has to take time on either 12 or 13 and if he loses time on both, this is over.

Visma is a ridiculous team individually. Tactically, against tadej, they seem lost. I’d love to see EF run visma and see what would happen.

I think EF has it much easier tactically though. Granted they've done everything right, but its much easier when you seemingly have the best breakaway guy who is really only concerned with stage wins and as the Laterne Rouge guys keep pointing out, they're the only team (team, not Simmons or Storer) that really keeps trying.

Visma has the second (and 3rd or 4th) best riders, but in order to exploit that "advantage", you have to be willing to have to at least act like you are willing to have Jorgensen win by being willing to send him up the road with help and like the rest of the world, they don't seem to think he's good enough to pull off a "Kuss" against Tadej. Otherwise it doesn't matter how good or bad UAE is since Tadej can just stay in their wheels. Sending Yates up the road doesn't really do anything to Tadej. Of course, maybe they'll just saving it and be so much stronger than everyone else by the time Stage 14 or 18 rolls around that they'll be able to just blow that stage apart from the start and leave Tadej isolated (I know that's what I'd try).

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

I listened today. Bruyneel so just wants to really roast the tactics of UAE and Jumbo. He also doesn't really seem to buy Jumbo have much of an advantage since all it takes is Tadej to be aggressive to isolate him and Jonas and that Tadej should be able to do that on Stage 12 and then there is the MTT on Stage 13. They didn't really outright say it, but I took it that they think Jonas has to take time on either 12 or 13 and if he loses time on both, this is over.

Visma is a ridiculous team individually. Tactically, against tadej, they seem lost. I’d love to see EF run visma and see what would happen.

I think EF has it much easier tactically though. Granted they've done everything right, but its much easier when you seemingly have the best breakaway guy who is really only concerned with stage wins and as the Laterne Rouge guys keep pointing out, they're the only team (team, not Simmons or Storer) that really keeps trying.

Visma has the second (and 3rd or 4th) best riders, but in order to exploit that "advantage", you have to be willing to have to at least act like you are willing to have Jorgensen win by being willing to send him up the road with help and like the rest of the world, they don't seem to think he's good enough to pull off a "Kuss" against Tadej. Otherwise it doesn't matter how good or bad UAE is since Tadej can just stay in their wheels. Sending Yates up the road doesn't really do anything to Tadej. Of course, maybe they'll just saving it and be so much stronger than everyone else by the time Stage 14 or 18 rolls around that they'll be able to just blow that stage apart from the start and leave Tadej isolated (I know that's what I'd try).

EF has always been aggressive. But they do have it easier tactically, agreed.

I would just like to see another team be aggressive and not be so afraid of tadej. If he’s going to win anyway, why not go for broke and try something different.

 

[cheeseypoof]

Interesting stage. If UAE didn't want yellow, I'm not sure why they didn't just let the break balloon to 10+minutes; plus then Healy wouldn't have had to bury himself and lead out Yates. Besides for the relatively disastrous last Giro stage, EF is having a hell of a tactical year. Wednesday is really another Healy/MvdP/Pogi classics stage, so it'll be interesting to see if EF lets or gets into the break (my guess is a bunch of the stronger sprinters try to get up the road with MdvP).

Yeah exactly what I was thinking watching today. Honestly they could have let it go to 20 minutes.

Look at this stage from 2001.

Armstrong/USPS let the break go to 35 minutes on the peloton. Who cares when it's all classics riders or GC guys who are too far off the pace? You're getting it all back with interest during the mountain stages. They made it up within the next week and won by 6:44; the guy they let go 30 + minutes up ( rider) got to wear yellow for several stages before finishing 17 minutes back.

Lance said on The Move today that French rider still sends him Christmas cards every year.

I listened today. Bruyneel so just wants to really roast the tactics of UAE and Jumbo. He also doesn't really seem to buy Jumbo have much of an advantage since all it takes is Tadej to be aggressive to isolate him and Jonas and that Tadej should be able to do that on Stage 12 and then there is the MTT on Stage 13. They didn't really outright say it, but I took it that they think Jonas has to take time on either 12 or 13 and if he loses time on both, this is over.

Visma is a ridiculous team individually. Tactically, against tadej, they seem lost. I’d love to see EF run visma and see what would happen.

I think EF has it much easier tactically though. Granted they've done everything right, but its much easier when you seemingly have the best breakaway guy who is really only concerned with stage wins and as the Laterne Rouge guys keep pointing out, they're the only team (team, not Simmons or Storer) that really keeps trying.

Visma has the second (and 3rd or 4th) best riders, but in order to exploit that "advantage", you have to be willing to have to at least act like you are willing to have Jorgensen win by being willing to send him up the road with help and like the rest of the world, they don't seem to think he's good enough to pull off a "Kuss" against Tadej. Otherwise it doesn't matter how good or bad UAE is since Tadej can just stay in their wheels. Sending Yates up the road doesn't really do anything to Tadej. Of course, maybe they'll just saving it and be so much stronger than everyone else by the time Stage 14 or 18 rolls around that they'll be able to just blow that stage apart from the start and leave Tadej isolated (I know that's what I'd try).

EF has always been aggressive. But they do have it easier tactically, agreed.

I would just like to see another team be aggressive and not be so afraid of tadej. If he’s going to win anyway, why not go for broke and try something different.

Agreed. It seems like bad strategy for the lesser teams to try and beat UAE and TVLaB at their game. But, then again, what do I know.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Pick a mountain and TTT up that thing. Damn the consequences.

 

[Tick]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Rider Team Class Credits % Selected Points

1. Tadej Pogačar UAE Team Emirates - XRG All Rounder 32 74.1% 1363
2. Jonas Vingegaard Team Visma | Lease a Bike All Rounder 24 26.9% 943
3. Mathieu Van Der Poel Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 10 44.2% 814
4. Jonathan Milan Lidl - Trek Sprinter 12 24.6% 785
5. Remco Evenepoel Soudal Quick-Step All Rounder 18 33.3% 695
6. Matteo Jorgenson Team Visma | Lease a Bike All Rounder 12 9.3% 670
7. Kévin Vauquelin Arkéa - B&B Hotels All Rounder 6 12.6% 589
8. Oscar Onley Team Picnic PostNL Climber 8 19.1% 578
9. Biniam Girmay Intermarché - Wanty Sprinter 8 17.6% 557
10. Ben Healy EF Education - EasyPost Climber 6 27.2% 530
    
    
11. Tim Merlier Soudal Quick-Step Sprinter 10 26.9% 508
12. Simon Yates Team Visma | Lease a Bike Climber 12 13.6% 454
13. Kaden Groves Alpecin - Deceuninck Sprinter 8 2.1% 397
14. João Almeida UAE Team Emirates - XRG All Rounder 16 15.8% 348
15. Michael Storer Tudor Pro Cycling Team Climber 6 7.5% 332
16. Jasper Philipsen Alpecin - Deceuninck Sprinter 12 23.6% 329
17. Romain Grégoire Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 8 9.3% 329
18. Søren Wærenskjold Uno-X Mobility Sprinter 6 0.8% 327
19. Wout Van Aert Team Visma | Lease a Bike Unclassed 12 31.7% 308
20. Phil Bauhaus Bahrain - Victorious Sprinter 6 3.2% 295
    
    
21. Florian Lipowitz Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe All Rounder 12 25.5% 292
22. Anthony Turgis Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 6 0.7% 287
23. Paul Penhoët Groupama - FDJ Sprinter 6 0.2% 285
24. Arnaud De Lie Lotto Sprinter 8 2.6% 282
25. Pascal Ackermann Israel - Premier Tech Sprinter 6 2.3% 270
26. Pavel Bittner Team Picnic PostNL Sprinter 6 0.4% 262
27. Quinn Simmons Lidl - Trek Unclassed 6 4.3% 251
28. Edoardo Affini Team Visma | Lease a Bike Unclassed 6 3.0% 242
29. Felix Gall Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Climber 10 15.9% 220
30. Mattias Skjelmose Lidl - Trek Climber 12 12.6% 217
    
    
31. Jhonatan Narváez UAE Team Emirates - XRG Unclassed 6 3.7% 207
32. Thymen Arensman INEOS Grenadiers All Rounder 8 1.9% 204
33. Tobias Halland Johannessen Uno-X Mobility All Rounder 10 4.3% 199
34. Ben O'Connor Team Jayco AlUla Climber 8 13.5% 194
35. Aurélien Paret-Peintre Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Climber 6 2.1% 191
36. Bruno Armirail Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 6 4.6% 186
37. Primož Roglič Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe All Rounder 14 13.5% 180
38. Tim Wellens UAE Team Emirates - XRG Unclassed 6 3.0% 175
39. Alberto Dainese Tudor Pro Cycling Team Sprinter 6 0.2% 170
40. Enric Mas Movistar Team Climber 10 7.2% 169
    
    
41. Joseph Blackmore Israel - Premier Tech Unclassed 6 1.9% 167
42. Eddie Dunbar Team Jayco AlUla All Rounder 6 2.2% 165
43. Tobias Lund Andresen Team Picnic PostNL Sprinter 6 0.9% 165
44. Clément Russo Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 4 1.2% 161
45. Matteo Trentin Tudor Pro Cycling Team Sprinter 6 0.4% 158
46. Lenny Martinez Bahrain - Victorious Climber 10 15.4% 154
47. Anders Halland Johannessen Uno-X Mobility Unclassed 6 0.8% 139
48. Stian Fredheim Uno-X Mobility Sprinter 6 0.1% 134
49. Julian Alaphilippe Tudor Pro Cycling Team Climber 6 22.3% 133
50. Will Barta Movistar Team Unclassed 6 0.6% 130
    
    
51. Bryan Coquard Cofidis Sprinter 6 0.7% 120
52. Harold Tejada XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 1.4% 115
53. Alex Baudin EF Education - EasyPost Unclassed 6 1.5% 106
54. Nils Politt UAE Team Emirates - XRG Unclassed 6 2.0% 106
55. Jonas Rickaert Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 4 2.0% 104
56. Iván Romeo Movistar Team Unclassed 6 7.0% 103
57. Tiesj Benoot Team Visma | Lease a Bike Unclassed 6 2.7% 102
58. Victor Campenaerts Team Visma | Lease a Bike Unclassed 6 3.8% 102
59. Samuel Watson INEOS Grenadiers Unclassed 6 1.7% 100
60. Marius Mayrhofer Tudor Pro Cycling Team Sprinter 6 0.1% 92
    
    
61. Luke Plapp Team Jayco AlUla Unclassed 6 3.0% 91
62. Bastien Tronchon Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 6 1.9% 89
63. Iván García Cortina Movistar Team Unclassed 6 0.4% 89
64. Vincenzo Albanese EF Education - EasyPost Sprinter 6 0.7% 88
65. Harry Sweeny EF Education - EasyPost Unclassed 4 9.1% 87
66. Adam Yates UAE Team Emirates - XRG All Rounder 10 7.1% 86
67. Jordan Jegat Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 6 0.3% 86
68. Pavel Sivakov UAE Team Emirates - XRG Climber 6 3.0% 86
69. Marc Soler UAE Team Emirates - XRG Climber 6 4.2% 86
70. Jordi Meeus Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Sprinter 8 3.5% 85
    
    
71. Sepp Kuss Team Visma | Lease a Bike Climber 8 11.3% 82
72. Santiago Buitrago Bahrain - Victorious Climber 8 11.1% 80
73. Dylan Groenewegen Team Jayco AlUla Sprinter 8 2.6% 80
74. Xandro Meurisse Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 6 0.1% 80
75. Pablo Castrillo Movistar Team Climber 6 3.0% 80
76. Carlos Rodríguez INEOS Grenadiers Climber 10 11.1% 77
77. Amaury Capiot Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 6 0.1% 76
78. Guillaume Martin Groupama - FDJ Climber 6 4.4% 76
79. Axel Laurance INEOS Grenadiers Unclassed 6 2.7% 74
80. Simone Velasco XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 0.3% 70
    
    
81. Jenno Berckmoes Lotto Sprinter 6 0.2% 69
82. Gianni Vermeersch Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 6 0.1% 68
83. Emiel Verstrynge Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 6 0.1% 68
84. Silvan Dillier Alpecin - Deceuninck Unclassed 4 3.3% 68
85. Lewis Askey Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 6 1.7% 67
86. Kasper Asgreen EF Education - EasyPost Unclassed 6 7.9% 62
87. Yevgeniy Fedorov XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 0.2% 60
88. Mike Teunissen XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 0.1% 60
89. Danny Van Poppel Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Sprinter 6 1.2% 58
90. Niklas Märkl Team Picnic PostNL Unclassed 4 0.5% 57
    
    
91. Quentin Pacher Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 6 0.2% 52
92. Valentin Paret-Peintre Soudal Quick-Step Climber 6 1.3% 52
93. Alexandre Delettre Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 6 0.1% 52
94. Marc Hirschi Tudor Pro Cycling Team Unclassed 6 3.6% 51
95. Alexis Renard Cofidis Sprinter 6 0.3% 50
96. Benjamin Thomas Cofidis Unclassed 6 0.2% 48
97. Neilson Powless EF Education - EasyPost Unclassed 6 9.5% 46
98. Marco Haller Tudor Pro Cycling Team Unclassed 4 3.2% 46
99. Arnaud Démare Arkéa - B&B Hotels Sprinter 6 0.7% 45
100. Damien Touzé Cofidis Unclassed 4 0.8% 45

 

[BobbyLayne]

101-184

Rider Team Class Credits % Selected Points

1. Jonas Abrahamsen Uno-X Mobility Unclassed 6 10.7% 44
2. Raúl García Pierna Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 6 0.2% 42
3. Andreas Leknessund Uno-X Mobility Unclassed 6 1.0% 42
4. Ewen Costiou Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 6 0.1% 38
5. Tobias Foss INEOS Grenadiers Unclassed 6 1.0% 34
6. Brent Van Moer Lotto Unclassed 6 0.1% 34
7. Simone Consonni Lidl - Trek Sprinter 6 0.3% 33
8. Geraint Thomas INEOS Grenadiers All Rounder 8 3.1% 32
9. Valentin Madouas Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 6 1.1% 32
10. Michael Woods Israel - Premier Tech Climber 6 3.8% 32
    
    
11. Maximilian Schachmann Soudal Quick-Step All Rounder 6 0.6% 32
12. Ilan Van Wilder Soudal Quick-Step All Rounder 6 0.4% 32
13. Cyril Barthe Groupama - FDJ Unclassed 4 2.7% 32
14. Pascal Eenkhoorn Soudal Quick-Step Unclassed 4 3.3% 32
15. Bert Van Lerberghe Soudal Quick-Step Unclassed 4 3.0% 32
16. Krists Neilands Israel - Premier Tech Unclassed 6 0.1% 31
17. Jake Stewart Israel - Premier Tech Sprinter 6 1.4% 30
18. Mauro Schmid Team Jayco AlUla Unclassed 6 2.9% 29
19. Thomas Gachignard Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 4 1.6% 28
20. Nelson Oliveira Movistar Team Unclassed 6 0.4% 25
    
    
21. Emanuel Buchmann Cofidis Unclassed 6 3.1% 24
22. Cristián Rodríguez Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 6 0.7% 22
23. Thibau Nys Lidl - Trek Unclassed 8 11.8% 20
24. Toms Skujiņš Lidl - Trek Unclassed 6 0.5% 20
25. Jasper Stuyven Lidl - Trek Unclassed 6 0.9% 20
26. Mattéo Vercher Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 6 0.1% 20
27. Edward Theuns Lidl - Trek Unclassed 4 6.6% 20
28. Laurenz Rex Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 0.1% 19
29. Michael Valgren EF Education - EasyPost Unclassed 6 0.2% 18
30. Cees Bol XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 1.0% 16
    
    
31. Mattia Cattaneo Soudal Quick-Step Unclassed 6 0.5% 15
32. Hugo Page Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 0.2% 14
33. Georg Zimmermann Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 2.8% 11
34. Roel Van Sintmaartensdijk Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 4 1.6% 10
35. Fabian Lienhard Tudor Pro Cycling Team Unclassed 4 0.5% 10
36. Marijn Van Den Berg EF Education - EasyPost Sprinter 6 0.4% 8
37. Louis Barré Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 6.0% 8
38. Vito Braet Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 0.1% 8
39. Jonas Rutsch Intermarché - Wanty Unclassed 6 0.1% 8
40. Alexey Lutsenko Israel - Premier Tech Unclassed 6 0.6% 8
    
    
41. Sergio Higuita XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 1.1% 8
42. Clément Venturini Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 6 0.1% 6
43. Mathis Le Berre Arkéa - B&B Hotels Unclassed 4 2.3% 6
44. Jack Haig Bahrain - Victorious Unclassed 6 1.0% 4
45. Magnus Cort Uno-X Mobility Unclassed 6 9.1% 4
46. Markus Hoelgaard Uno-X Mobility Unclassed 6 0.1% 4
47. Connor Swift INEOS Grenadiers Unclassed 4 7.4% 4
48. Jarrad Drizners Lotto Unclassed 4 0.5% 3
49. Matej Mohorič Bahrain - Victorious Unclassed 6 3.5% 2
50. Fred Wright Bahrain - Victorious Unclassed 6 5.3% 2
    
    
51. Clément Berthet Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 6 0.4% 2
52. Lennert Van Eetvelt Lotto All Rounder 6 2.2% 2
53. Warren Barguil Team Picnic PostNL Unclassed 6 2.7% 2
54. Sean Flynn Team Picnic PostNL Unclassed 6 0.3% 2
55. Frank Van Den Broek Team Picnic PostNL Unclassed 6 0.5% 2
56. Steff Cras Team TotalEnergies Climber 6 0.6% 2
57. Kamil Gradek Bahrain - Victorious Unclassed 4 0.7% 2
58. Robert Stannard Bahrain - Victorious Unclassed 4 1.1% 2
59. Oliver Naesen Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 4 3.4% 2
60. Callum Scotson Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 4 0.9% 2
    
    
61. Sébastien Grignard Lotto Unclassed 4 0.7% 2
62. Eduardo Sepúlveda Lotto Unclassed 4 1.8% 2
63. Tim Naberman Team Picnic PostNL Unclassed 4 0.3% 2

Filippo Ganna INEOS Grenadiers Unclassed 8 18.5% 0
Aleksandr Vlasov Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe All Rounder 8 1.0% 0
Alex Aranburu Cofidis Sprinter 6 0.8% 0
Ion Izagirre Cofidis Unclassed 6 0.8% 0
Dylan Teuns Cofidis Unclassed 6 0.3% 0
Stefan Bissegger Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team Unclassed 6 1.1% 0
Gregor Mühlberger Movistar Team Unclassed 6 0.1% 0
Einer Rubio Movistar Team Climber 6 1.9% 0
Laurence Pithie Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Unclassed 6 0.7% 0
Luka Mezgec Team Jayco AlUla Unclassed 6 0.1% 0

Mathieu Burgaudeau Team TotalEnergies Unclassed 6 0.3% 0
Emilien Jeannière Team TotalEnergies Sprinter 6 1.1% 0
Davide Ballerini XDS Astana Team Unclassed 6 1.2% 0
Clément Champoussin XDS Astana Team Climber 6 3.8% 0
Guillaume Boivin Israel - Premier Tech Unclassed 4 1.7% 0
Matis Louvel Israel - Premier Tech Unclassed 4 1.0% 0
Jasper De Buyst Lotto Unclassed 4 2.2% 0
Gianni Moscon Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Unclassed 4 5.1% 0
Mick Van Dijke Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Unclassed 4 3.2% 0
Luke Durbridge Team Jayco AlUla Unclassed 4 4.3% 0

Elmar Reinders Team Jayco AlUla Unclassed 4 0.7% 0

 

[BassNBrew]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

they need to all fall on the sword. campy, ben, affini, wout, kuss, yates, matty just TTT up the huatacam or ventoux, with jonas not pulling till the end. tadej probably grinds them to dust. but you've gotta do something.

 

[Sammy3469]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

I don't think they "really" tried anything yesterday. For any of this to pop Tadej, the Capenarts and Benoot need to ride hard on a long climb early and drop as much of UAE as possible. Until that happens the race will effectively be a UAE processional.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

I don't think they "really" tried anything yesterday. For any of this to pop Tadej, the Capenarts and Benoot need to ride hard on a long climb early and drop as much of UAE as possible. Until that happens the race will effectively be a UAE processional.

Honestly not much they can accomplish in the Central Mastiff, but I think part of the plan (there is a plan, right?) is keep layering in hard days. The Pyrenees will are a few stages away followed by the Alps. That’s where I think they’re hoping for a repeat of 2022 & 2023 - high mountains used to be the kryptonite but not sure that’s still the secret sauce for Tour success.

Visma wants to isolate. Pogačar be like “I’m not in here with you. You’re in here with me.”

---

Sidebar, wow there are some long transfers this year! Today’s was 352 km. From the finish of stage 20 to the start of 21 it’s 352 km, coming right after 19 to 20 which is 237 km. Unlike today, the latter two don’t occur on a rest day.

 

[Tick]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

I don't think they "really" tried anything yesterday. For any of this to pop Tadej, the Capenarts and Benoot need to ride hard on a long climb early and drop as much of UAE as possible. Until that happens the race will effectively be a UAE processional.

Honestly not much they can accomplish in the Central Mastiff, but I think part of the plan (there is a plan, right?) is keep layering in hard days. The Pyrenees will are a few stages away followed by the Alps. That’s where I think they’re hoping for a repeat of 2022 & 2023 - high mountains used to be the kryptonite but not sure that’s still the secret sauce for Tour success.

Visma wants to isolate. Pogačar be like “I’m not in here with you. You’re in here with me.”

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Sidebar, wow there are some long transfers this year! Today’s was 352 km. From the finish of stage 20 to the start of 21 it’s 352 km, coming right after 19 to 20 which is 237 km. Unlike today, the latter two don’t occur on a rest day.

That makes the argument the organizers made about why they put two boring races on the weekend pretty silly - they said it was the best they could do given France's geography. If they can teleport 350 km, they could have made it work.

 

[Sammy3469]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

I don't think they "really" tried anything yesterday. For any of this to pop Tadej, the Capenarts and Benoot need to ride hard on a long climb early and drop as much of UAE as possible. Until that happens the race will effectively be a UAE processional.

Honestly not much they can accomplish in the Central Mastiff, but I think part of the plan (there is a plan, right?) is keep layering in hard days. The Pyrenees will are a few stages away followed by the Alps. That’s where I think they’re hoping for a repeat of 2022 & 2023 - high mountains used to be the kryptonite but not sure that’s still the secret sauce for Tour success.

Visma wants to isolate. Pogačar be like “I’m not in here with you. You’re in here with me.”

---

Sidebar, wow there are some long transfers this year! Today’s was 352 km. From the finish of stage 20 to the start of 21 it’s 352 km, coming right after 19 to 20 which is 237 km. Unlike today, the latter two don’t occur on a rest day.

That makes the argument the organizers made about why they put two boring races on the weekend pretty silly - they said it was the best they could do given France's geography. If they can teleport 350 km, they could have made it work.

They stayed north 2 days too long and can then only go so far as the busses can comfortably make in a day.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Pogacar won't let Jonas go, so like Sammy said, I wonder about Visma just selling out for Jorgenson on a stage - leave Jonas behind to hang out with Pogacar, send something like Yates/Jorgenson to see if they can win a stage by 5 minutes and somehow have Jorgenson hold off Pogacar for the rest of the stages.

This stage was a ton of fun - that breakaway making Healy do all the work made sense but was so mean. Good for him for taking yellow.

They tried that yesterday. Pogo just chased Jorgensen down.

I don't think they "really" tried anything yesterday. For any of this to pop Tadej, the Capenarts and Benoot need to ride hard on a long climb early and drop as much of UAE as possible. Until that happens the race will effectively be a UAE processional.

Honestly not much they can accomplish in the Central Mastiff, but I think part of the plan (there is a plan, right?) is keep layering in hard days. The Pyrenees will are a few stages away followed by the Alps. That’s where I think they’re hoping for a repeat of 2022 & 2023 - high mountains used to be the kryptonite but not sure that’s still the secret sauce for Tour success.

Visma wants to isolate. Pogačar be like “I’m not in here with you. You’re in here with me.”

---

Sidebar, wow there are some long transfers this year! Today’s was 352 km. From the finish of stage 20 to the start of 21 it’s 352 km, coming right after 19 to 20 which is 237 km. Unlike today, the latter two don’t occur on a rest day.

That makes the argument the organizers made about why they put two boring races on the weekend pretty silly - they said it was the best they could do given France's geography. If they can teleport 350 km, they could have made it work.

They stayed north 2 days too long and can then only go so far as the busses can comfortably make in a day.

Flights are rare but presumably they’ll make an exception July 26.

ASO is always doing something bewildering, annually. Structurally it seems archaic. They run 5 events: Tour de France, Dakar Road Rally, Paris Marathon, Ladies French Open (golf), and sailing.

Wut. Shouldn’t that be 5 different independent organizing bodies? What do any of them have in common?

They formed ASO in 1992, so it’s not one of those “that’s how we’ve always done it” things.

 

[Tick]

The cautionary tale of a Tour de France sponsor

Santini pays millions to supply jerseys to the Tour de France. Does it matter if the best riders sometimes go out of their way to avoid them?

club.sportico.com

Explains Wellens taking the polka dot right before the time trial.

 

[Sammy3469]

I guess EF puts these out pretty regularly: https://youtu.be/ixw8kuU7TFI?si=diScPArrYpDKbEbE

 

[Sammy3469]

The cautionary tale of a Tour de France sponsor

Santini pays millions to supply jerseys to the Tour de France. Does it matter if the best riders sometimes go out of their way to avoid them?

club.sportico.com

Explains Wellens taking the polka dot right before the time trial.

It’s not just that…apparently socks are one of the best aero investments. Every crease in a jersey is a watt (and they all wear the ribbed shoulder thing now). It’s also why none of them wear gloves anymore (though I guess MdVP and Tadej don’t care about the aero drag of a 300k watch).

You can also tell how seriously Tadej is taking the stage by his bike. Yesterday he road the new pretty bad Colnago vs the older model which is more aero and lighter.

Aero Socks & Overshoes | Rule 28 Inc.

The fastest aero socks and overshoes on the planet. Available in both UCI and Non UCI Legal lengths

na.rule28.com

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I guess EF puts these out pretty regularly: https://youtu.be/ixw8kuU7TFI?si=diScPArrYpDKbEbE

Awesome video. Always liked vaughters and EF

My team hads donned the EF jersey in support

 

[cheeseypoof]

After Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van der Poel, and Jorgensen my team is terrible. I made some bad choices. Lol

 

[BobbyLayne]

I guess EF puts these out pretty regularly: https://youtu.be/ixw8kuU7TFI?si=diScPArrYpDKbEbE

Yes have been for a few years during the Tour

easy team to root for

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these 5 riders each picked up 20 breakaway points today; Schmid (@DA RAIDERS + @BassNBrew - Bain & Co) & Abrahamsen (@Sammy3469 + @Chemical X) the only ones in our league (I think??)

Situation​

• 1
  EARLY BREAK
  +0:00
  • 1
    58
    WRIGHT Fred
    +1:19:55
  • 2
    128
    SCHMID Mauro
    
    +1:05:43
  • 3
    172
    BALLERINI Davide
    +1:57:03
  • 4
    182
    BURGAUDEAU Mathieu
    +42:51
  • 5
    222
    ABRAHAMSEN Jonas

 

[Jaysus]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

 

[Sammy3469]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

See when you pick a random hardman Norwegian (I actually thought I was picking a different guy), you watch the sprint

 

[Sammy3469]

I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

See when you pick a random hardman Norwegian (I actually thought I was picking a different guy), you watch the sprint

fractured collarbone 6/18 - 17 days before the Grand Depart

Top 20 get points for the Stage:

Rnk Rider Team UCI Pnt Time

1. Abrahamsen Jonas Uno-X Mobility 210 100 10″ 3:15:56
2. Schmid Mauro Team Jayco AlUla 150 70 6″ ,,
3. van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 110 50 4″ 0:07
4. De Lie Arnaud Lotto 90 40 0:53
5. van Aert Wout Team Visma | Lease a Bike 70 32 ,,
6. Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 55 26 ,,
7. Wright Fred Bahrain - Victorious 45 22 ,,
8. Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40 18 ,,
9. Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 35 14 ,,
10. Ballerini Davide XDS Astana Team 30 10 1:11
11. Groves Kaden Alpecin - Deceuninck 25 8 3:28
12. Dainese Alberto Tudor Pro Cycling Team 20 6 ,,
13. Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 15 4 ,,
14. Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 10 2 ,,
15. Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 5 1 ,,
16. Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ ,,
17. Barré Louis Intermarché - Wanty ,,
18. Champoussin Clément XDS Astana Team ,,
19. Aranburu Alex Cofidis ,,
20. Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG ,,

 

[BobbyLayne]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

Shimano Neutral Service guy on the podium to receive today's combativity award

 

[Jaysus]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

Shimano Neutral Service guy on the podium to receive today's combativity award

That guy was quick like wind

 

[BobbyLayne]

I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

Everyone in front of him veered to the right, Pogacar was uncharacteristically inattentive.

Not that it wasn't a clumsy move by Johannessen, but if Pogacar was fully alert he wouldn't have crashed.

 

[BobbyLayne]

End-of-Tour points scoring:

Top 30 GC
Top 10 Mountain
Top 10 Points
Top 5 Team

Top 54 GC after Stage 11 (no change to Top 14):

Rnk Prev ▼▲ Rider Team UCI Time

1. 1 - Healy Ben EF Education - EasyPost 25 14″ 41:01:13
2. 2 - Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates - XRG 26″ 0:29
3. 3 - Evenepoel Remco Soudal Quick-Step 1:29
4. 4 - Vingegaard Jonas Team Visma | Lease a Bike 14″ 1:46
5. 5 - Jorgenson Matteo Team Visma | Lease a Bike 2:06
6. 6 - Vauquelin Kévin Arkéa - B&B Hotels 2:26
7. 7 - Onley Oscar Team Picnic PostNL 4″ 3:24
8. 8 - Lipowitz Florian Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:34
9. 9 - Roglič Primož Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:41
10. 10 - Johannessen Tobias Halland Uno-X Mobility 5:03
11. 11 - Gall Felix Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5:38
12. 12 - Rodríguez Carlos INEOS Grenadiers 5:44
13. 13 - Mas Enric Movistar Team 5:56
14. 14 - Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 6:32
15. 16 ▲1 Martin Guillaume Groupama - FDJ 10:44
16. 17 ▲1 Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG 11:29
17. 18 ▲1 O'Connor Ben Team Jayco AlUla 11:50
18. 15 ▼3 Skjelmose Mattias Lidl - Trek 12:45
19. 19 - Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 15:15
20. 20 - Buchmann Emanuel Cofidis 15:41
21. 22 ▲1 Kuss Sepp Team Visma | Lease a Bike 19:49
22. 23 ▲1 Yates Simon Team Visma | Lease a Bike 10″ 20:26
23. 24 ▲1 Meurisse Xandro Alpecin - Deceuninck 21:28
24. 25 ▲1 Arensman Thymen INEOS Grenadiers 6″ 22:06
25. 27 ▲2 Rodríguez Cristián Arkéa - B&B Hotels 23:14
26. 28 ▲2 Madouas Valentin Groupama - FDJ 23:28
27. 26 ▼1 Berthet Clément Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 23:50
28. 21 ▼7 Benoot Tiesj Team Visma | Lease a Bike 23:57
29. 30 ▲1 van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 20″ 25:11
30. 29 ▼1 Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ 27:08
    
    
31. 31 - Blackmore Joseph Israel - Premier Tech 29:19
32. 32 - Scotson Callum Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 30:18
33. 34 ▲1 Baudin Alex EF Education - EasyPost 30:20
34. 36 ▲2 Higuita Sergio XDS Astana Team 31:34
35. 40 ▲5 Venturini Clément Arkéa - B&B Hotels 33:43
36. 47 ▲11 Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 6″ 35:20
37. 33 ▼4 Barguil Warren Team Picnic PostNL 35:39
38. 44 ▲6 Yates Adam UAE Team Emirates - XRG 36:24
39. 35 ▼4 Eenkhoorn Pascal Soudal Quick-Step 36:49
40. 37 ▼3 Delettre Alexandre Team TotalEnergies 37:21
41. 41 - Hoelgaard Markus Uno-X Mobility 37:23
42. 46 ▲4 Van Wilder Ilan Soudal Quick-Step 37:42
43. 42 ▼1 Cras Steff Team TotalEnergies 37:45
44. 43 ▼1 Campenaerts Victor Team Visma | Lease a Bike 38:25
45. 38 ▼7 Vlasov Aleksandr Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 38:38
46. 52 ▲6 Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 38:39
47. 39 ▼8 Berckmoes Jenno Lotto 38:59
48. 53 ▲5 Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40:16
49. 50 ▲1 Paret-Peintre Aurélien Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 41:01
50. 48 ▼2 Powless Neilson EF Education - EasyPost 41:56
51. 51 - Mühlberger Gregor Movistar Team 42:39
52. 45 ▼7 Sweeny Harry EF Education - EasyPost 43:16
53. 55 ▲2 Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 44:19
54. 49 ▼5 Thomas Geraint INEOS Grenadiers 44:39

Some of the guys 15-30 won't be able to hold up in the mountains, and a bunch of climbers and GC guys who will be moving up starting tomorrow: Barguil (? injured?), A Yates, Van Wilder, Cras, Vlasov, APP, G (??)....anyone else stand out?

 

[Sammy3469]

I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

Everyone in front of him veered to the right, Pogacar was uncharacteristically inattentive.

Not that it wasn't a clumsy move by Johannessen, but if Pogacar was fully alert he wouldn't have crashed.

You're never going to convince me he didn't chop Tadej's wheel

 

[DA RAIDERS]

There’s the schmid I picked.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Let’s see if chumpy can come to life in the mountains.

ARMSTRONG’s needle should have a decent time in the mountains. Let’s goooo!

 

[BobbyLayne]

2025 Tour de France - Stage 11 Results

• 1 599 sammy3469
• 2 459 Sand`s Saddle Sores Bain & Company
• 3 350 The French Mistake Sand
• 4 344 Mr. Spoke Chemical Xtalian
• 5 327 Armstrong’s Needle Da Raiders
• 6 277 Squeaky Wheels Cheeseypoof
• 7 274 Spokes ‘N Tokes Nick Vermeil
• 8 256 RB Brownwings WGUAFC Jaysus
• 9 255 Forcats de la Route ForzaShels
• 10 239 AI Overlords Control the Peloton ChatGPT Trained by BassNBrew
• 11 104 Ultimate A$$-whooping Ensemble BassNBrew2
• 12 100 FBG Corporation Michael Cooley
• 13 90 Late to the party Brettdj
• 14 72 Boerum Hill Big Ringing BobbyLayne

Overall Race Standings

• 1 599 sammy3469
• 2 459 Sand`s Saddle Sores Bain & Company
• 3 350 The French Mistake Sand
• 4 344 Mr. Spoke Chemical Xtalian
• 5 327 Armstrong’s Needle Da Raiders
• 6 277 Squeaky Wheels Cheeseypoof
• 7 274 Spokes ‘N Tokes Nick Vermeil
• 8 256 RB Brownwings WGUAFC Jaysus
• 9 255 Forcats de la Route ForzaShels
• 10 239 AI Overlords Control the Peloton ChatGPT Trained by BassNBrew
• 11 104 Ultimate A$$-whooping Ensemble BassNBrew2
• 12 100 FBG Corporation Michael Cooley
• 13 90 Late to the party Brettdj
• 14 72 Boerum Hill Big Ringing BobbyLayne

Stage Winners

1. Brettdj
2. Sand
3. Jaysus
4. Sammy3469
5. BobbyLayne
6. Sand (2)
7. Michael Cooley
8. ForzaShels
9. Jaysus (2)
10. BobbyLayne (2)
11. Sammy3469 (2)

@Sand Overall Rank: 203 of 29945 and 4th out of 316 in r/Peloton

@Sammy3469 Stage Rank: 386 of 29945
@Sammy3469 Overall Rank: 411 of 29945

Chapeau, gents!

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I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

Everyone in front of him veered to the right, Pogacar was uncharacteristically inattentive.

Not that it wasn't a clumsy move by Johannessen, but if Pogacar was fully alert he wouldn't have crashed.

You're never going to convince me he didn't chop Tadej's wheel

I agree with LRCP's divergent takes, seems like a racining incident but I can also see the other side of the argument.

From the back - Pogi was on the radio and had one hand on the bike....hence he could react as quickly/strongly as he normally would. IOW, Tadej was not in full control of his bike.

From the overhead helicopter shot, it looks like a very sharp divergence, he doesn't just clip his wheel, he crashes into his handlebars....could def make an argument it was Abrahamsen's fault.

No worries, reasonable people can disagree.

 

[Jaysus]

Meh... this one is on Tadej IMO

 

[Tick]

End-of-Tour points scoring:

Top 30 GC
Top 10 Mountain
Top 10 Points
Top 5 Team

Top 54 GC after Stage 11 (no change to Top 14):

Rnk Prev ▼▲ Rider Team UCI Time

1. 1 - Healy Ben EF Education - EasyPost 25 14″ 41:01:13
2. 2 - Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates - XRG 26″ 0:29
3. 3 - Evenepoel Remco Soudal Quick-Step 1:29
4. 4 - Vingegaard Jonas Team Visma | Lease a Bike 14″ 1:46
5. 5 - Jorgenson Matteo Team Visma | Lease a Bike 2:06
6. 6 - Vauquelin Kévin Arkéa - B&B Hotels 2:26
7. 7 - Onley Oscar Team Picnic PostNL 4″ 3:24
8. 8 - Lipowitz Florian Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:34
9. 9 - Roglič Primož Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:41
10. 10 - Johannessen Tobias Halland Uno-X Mobility 5:03
11. 11 - Gall Felix Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5:38
12. 12 - Rodríguez Carlos INEOS Grenadiers 5:44
13. 13 - Mas Enric Movistar Team 5:56
14. 14 - Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 6:32
15. 16 ▲1 Martin Guillaume Groupama - FDJ 10:44
16. 17 ▲1 Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG 11:29
17. 18 ▲1 O'Connor Ben Team Jayco AlUla 11:50
18. 15 ▼3 Skjelmose Mattias Lidl - Trek 12:45
19. 19 - Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 15:15
20. 20 - Buchmann Emanuel Cofidis 15:41
21. 22 ▲1 Kuss Sepp Team Visma | Lease a Bike 19:49
22. 23 ▲1 Yates Simon Team Visma | Lease a Bike 10″ 20:26
23. 24 ▲1 Meurisse Xandro Alpecin - Deceuninck 21:28
24. 25 ▲1 Arensman Thymen INEOS Grenadiers 6″ 22:06
25. 27 ▲2 Rodríguez Cristián Arkéa - B&B Hotels 23:14
26. 28 ▲2 Madouas Valentin Groupama - FDJ 23:28
27. 26 ▼1 Berthet Clément Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 23:50
28. 21 ▼7 Benoot Tiesj Team Visma | Lease a Bike 23:57
29. 30 ▲1 van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 20″ 25:11
30. 29 ▼1 Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ 27:08
    
    
31. 31 - Blackmore Joseph Israel - Premier Tech 29:19
32. 32 - Scotson Callum Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 30:18
33. 34 ▲1 Baudin Alex EF Education - EasyPost 30:20
34. 36 ▲2 Higuita Sergio XDS Astana Team 31:34
35. 40 ▲5 Venturini Clément Arkéa - B&B Hotels 33:43
36. 47 ▲11 Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 6″ 35:20
37. 33 ▼4 Barguil Warren Team Picnic PostNL 35:39
38. 44 ▲6 Yates Adam UAE Team Emirates - XRG 36:24
39. 35 ▼4 Eenkhoorn Pascal Soudal Quick-Step 36:49
40. 37 ▼3 Delettre Alexandre Team TotalEnergies 37:21
41. 41 - Hoelgaard Markus Uno-X Mobility 37:23
42. 46 ▲4 Van Wilder Ilan Soudal Quick-Step 37:42
43. 42 ▼1 Cras Steff Team TotalEnergies 37:45
44. 43 ▼1 Campenaerts Victor Team Visma | Lease a Bike 38:25
45. 38 ▼7 Vlasov Aleksandr Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 38:38
46. 52 ▲6 Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 38:39
47. 39 ▼8 Berckmoes Jenno Lotto 38:59
48. 53 ▲5 Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40:16
49. 50 ▲1 Paret-Peintre Aurélien Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 41:01
50. 48 ▼2 Powless Neilson EF Education - EasyPost 41:56
51. 51 - Mühlberger Gregor Movistar Team 42:39
52. 45 ▼7 Sweeny Harry EF Education - EasyPost 43:16
53. 55 ▲2 Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 44:19
54. 49 ▼5 Thomas Geraint INEOS Grenadiers 44:39

Some of the guys 15-30 won't be able to hold up in the mountains, and a bunch of climbers and GC guys who will be moving up starting tomorrow: Barguil (? injured?), A Yates, Van Wilder, Cras, Vlasov, APP, G (??)....anyone else stand out?

What does the 14" next to Healy mean?

 

[Tick]

I was in a work call at the finish... ESPN article says the peloton waited for Pogacar when he fell. That's kind of cool and also really weird.

 

[Jaysus]

Everybody watched the protester getting tackled not the sprint for the win, right?

israel out of the tour

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I was in a work call at the finish... ESPN article says the peloton waited for Pogacar when he fell. That's kind of cool and also really weird.

It’s an old custom. You sit up if a main rival has a mechanical or a silly fall. It usually applies to anyone one in yellow as well. I don’t agree with it in this case

 

[Sammy3469]

2025 Tour de France - Stage 11 Results

• 1 599 sammy3469
• 2 459 Sand`s Saddle Sores Bain & Company
• 3 350 The French Mistake Sand
• 4 344 Mr. Spoke Chemical Xtalian
• 5 327 Armstrong’s Needle Da Raiders
• 6 277 Squeaky Wheels Cheeseypoof
• 7 274 Spokes ‘N Tokes Nick Vermeil
• 8 256 RB Brownwings WGUAFC Jaysus
• 9 255 Forcats de la Route ForzaShels
• 10 239 AI Overlords Control the Peloton ChatGPT Trained by BassNBrew
• 11 104 Ultimate A$$-whooping Ensemble BassNBrew2
• 12 100 FBG Corporation Michael Cooley
• 13 90 Late to the party Brettdj
• 14 72 Boerum Hill Big Ringing BobbyLayne

Overall Race Standings

• 1 599 sammy3469
• 2 459 Sand`s Saddle Sores Bain & Company
• 3 350 The French Mistake Sand
• 4 344 Mr. Spoke Chemical Xtalian
• 5 327 Armstrong’s Needle Da Raiders
• 6 277 Squeaky Wheels Cheeseypoof
• 7 274 Spokes ‘N Tokes Nick Vermeil
• 8 256 RB Brownwings WGUAFC Jaysus
• 9 255 Forcats de la Route ForzaShels
• 10 239 AI Overlords Control the Peloton ChatGPT Trained by BassNBrew
• 11 104 Ultimate A$$-whooping Ensemble BassNBrew2
• 12 100 FBG Corporation Michael Cooley
• 13 90 Late to the party Brettdj
• 14 72 Boerum Hill Big Ringing BobbyLayne

Stage Winners

1. Brettdj
2. Sand
3. Jaysus
4. Sammy3469
5. BobbyLayne
6. Sand (2)
7. Michael Cooley
8. ForzaShels
9. Jaysus (2)
10. BobbyLayne (2)
11. Sammy3469 (2)

@Sand Overall Rank: 203 of 29945 and 4th out of 316 in r/Peloton

@Sammy3469 Stage Rank: 386 of 29945
@Sammy3469 Overall Rank: 411 of 29945

Chapeau, gents!

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I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

Everyone in front of him veered to the right, Pogacar was uncharacteristically inattentive.

Not that it wasn't a clumsy move by Johannessen, but if Pogacar was fully alert he wouldn't have crashed.

You're never going to convince me he didn't chop Tadej's wheel

I agree with LRCP's divergent takes, seems like a racining incident but I can also see the other side of the argument.

From the back - Pogi was on the radio and had one hand on the bike....hence he could react as quickly/strongly as he normally would. IOW, Tadej was not in full control of his bike.

From the overhead helicopter shot, it looks like a very sharp divergence, he doesn't just clip his wheel, he crashes into his handlebars....could def make an argument it was Abrahamsen's fault.

No worries, reasonable people can disagree.

It can be both a racing incident (I certainly don't think he did it on purpose) and a chop. If someone comes across you're front like that, you are going down a lot of the time. Shoulder to shoulder or hip to hip is expected, but once you solely make contact with either the handlebars or across the front wheel, the guy is going down a large percentage of the time. It certainly didn't help that Tadej's hand was off the bars and he wasn't protecting his front end, but the only way he's not going down there is if he's moving to the right before he gets clipped.

It also doesn't help that he basically comes from behind him on the left. Short of breaking and or moving to the right in anticipation (and it's not on Tadej to chase that move), he's going down. It was a very dangerous move by Johannesson. A sprinter comes off his line like that in a sprint and he's relegated.

 

[Sammy3469]

End-of-Tour points scoring:

Top 30 GC
Top 10 Mountain
Top 10 Points
Top 5 Team

Top 54 GC after Stage 11 (no change to Top 14):

Rnk Prev ▼▲ Rider Team UCI Time

1. 1 - Healy Ben EF Education - EasyPost 25 14″ 41:01:13
2. 2 - Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates - XRG 26″ 0:29
3. 3 - Evenepoel Remco Soudal Quick-Step 1:29
4. 4 - Vingegaard Jonas Team Visma | Lease a Bike 14″ 1:46
5. 5 - Jorgenson Matteo Team Visma | Lease a Bike 2:06
6. 6 - Vauquelin Kévin Arkéa - B&B Hotels 2:26
7. 7 - Onley Oscar Team Picnic PostNL 4″ 3:24
8. 8 - Lipowitz Florian Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:34
9. 9 - Roglič Primož Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:41
10. 10 - Johannessen Tobias Halland Uno-X Mobility 5:03
11. 11 - Gall Felix Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5:38
12. 12 - Rodríguez Carlos INEOS Grenadiers 5:44
13. 13 - Mas Enric Movistar Team 5:56
14. 14 - Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 6:32
15. 16 ▲1 Martin Guillaume Groupama - FDJ 10:44
16. 17 ▲1 Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG 11:29
17. 18 ▲1 O'Connor Ben Team Jayco AlUla 11:50
18. 15 ▼3 Skjelmose Mattias Lidl - Trek 12:45
19. 19 - Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 15:15
20. 20 - Buchmann Emanuel Cofidis 15:41
21. 22 ▲1 Kuss Sepp Team Visma | Lease a Bike 19:49
22. 23 ▲1 Yates Simon Team Visma | Lease a Bike 10″ 20:26
23. 24 ▲1 Meurisse Xandro Alpecin - Deceuninck 21:28
24. 25 ▲1 Arensman Thymen INEOS Grenadiers 6″ 22:06
25. 27 ▲2 Rodríguez Cristián Arkéa - B&B Hotels 23:14
26. 28 ▲2 Madouas Valentin Groupama - FDJ 23:28
27. 26 ▼1 Berthet Clément Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 23:50
28. 21 ▼7 Benoot Tiesj Team Visma | Lease a Bike 23:57
29. 30 ▲1 van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 20″ 25:11
30. 29 ▼1 Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ 27:08
    
    
31. 31 - Blackmore Joseph Israel - Premier Tech 29:19
32. 32 - Scotson Callum Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 30:18
33. 34 ▲1 Baudin Alex EF Education - EasyPost 30:20
34. 36 ▲2 Higuita Sergio XDS Astana Team 31:34
35. 40 ▲5 Venturini Clément Arkéa - B&B Hotels 33:43
36. 47 ▲11 Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 6″ 35:20
37. 33 ▼4 Barguil Warren Team Picnic PostNL 35:39
38. 44 ▲6 Yates Adam UAE Team Emirates - XRG 36:24
39. 35 ▼4 Eenkhoorn Pascal Soudal Quick-Step 36:49
40. 37 ▼3 Delettre Alexandre Team TotalEnergies 37:21
41. 41 - Hoelgaard Markus Uno-X Mobility 37:23
42. 46 ▲4 Van Wilder Ilan Soudal Quick-Step 37:42
43. 42 ▼1 Cras Steff Team TotalEnergies 37:45
44. 43 ▼1 Campenaerts Victor Team Visma | Lease a Bike 38:25
45. 38 ▼7 Vlasov Aleksandr Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 38:38
46. 52 ▲6 Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 38:39
47. 39 ▼8 Berckmoes Jenno Lotto 38:59
48. 53 ▲5 Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40:16
49. 50 ▲1 Paret-Peintre Aurélien Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 41:01
50. 48 ▼2 Powless Neilson EF Education - EasyPost 41:56
51. 51 - Mühlberger Gregor Movistar Team 42:39
52. 45 ▼7 Sweeny Harry EF Education - EasyPost 43:16
53. 55 ▲2 Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 44:19
54. 49 ▼5 Thomas Geraint INEOS Grenadiers 44:39

Some of the guys 15-30 won't be able to hold up in the mountains, and a bunch of climbers and GC guys who will be moving up starting tomorrow: Barguil (? injured?), A Yates, Van Wilder, Cras, Vlasov, APP, G (??)....anyone else stand out?

What does the 14" next to Healy mean?

Number of bonus seconds he's earned

 

[BobbyLayne]

End-of-Tour points scoring:

Top 30 GC
Top 10 Mountain
Top 10 Points
Top 5 Team

Top 54 GC after Stage 11 (no change to Top 14):

Rnk Prev ▼▲ Rider Team UCI Time

1. 1 - Healy Ben EF Education - EasyPost 25 14″ 41:01:13
2. 2 - Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates - XRG 26″ 0:29
3. 3 - Evenepoel Remco Soudal Quick-Step 1:29
4. 4 - Vingegaard Jonas Team Visma | Lease a Bike 14″ 1:46
5. 5 - Jorgenson Matteo Team Visma | Lease a Bike 2:06
6. 6 - Vauquelin Kévin Arkéa - B&B Hotels 2:26
7. 7 - Onley Oscar Team Picnic PostNL 4″ 3:24
8. 8 - Lipowitz Florian Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:34
9. 9 - Roglič Primož Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:41
10. 10 - Johannessen Tobias Halland Uno-X Mobility 5:03
11. 11 - Gall Felix Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5:38
12. 12 - Rodríguez Carlos INEOS Grenadiers 5:44
13. 13 - Mas Enric Movistar Team 5:56
14. 14 - Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 6:32
15. 16 ▲1 Martin Guillaume Groupama - FDJ 10:44
16. 17 ▲1 Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG 11:29
17. 18 ▲1 O'Connor Ben Team Jayco AlUla 11:50
18. 15 ▼3 Skjelmose Mattias Lidl - Trek 12:45
19. 19 - Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 15:15
20. 20 - Buchmann Emanuel Cofidis 15:41
21. 22 ▲1 Kuss Sepp Team Visma | Lease a Bike 19:49
22. 23 ▲1 Yates Simon Team Visma | Lease a Bike 10″ 20:26
23. 24 ▲1 Meurisse Xandro Alpecin - Deceuninck 21:28
24. 25 ▲1 Arensman Thymen INEOS Grenadiers 6″ 22:06
25. 27 ▲2 Rodríguez Cristián Arkéa - B&B Hotels 23:14
26. 28 ▲2 Madouas Valentin Groupama - FDJ 23:28
27. 26 ▼1 Berthet Clément Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 23:50
28. 21 ▼7 Benoot Tiesj Team Visma | Lease a Bike 23:57
29. 30 ▲1 van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 20″ 25:11
30. 29 ▼1 Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ 27:08
    
    
31. 31 - Blackmore Joseph Israel - Premier Tech 29:19
32. 32 - Scotson Callum Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 30:18
33. 34 ▲1 Baudin Alex EF Education - EasyPost 30:20
34. 36 ▲2 Higuita Sergio XDS Astana Team 31:34
35. 40 ▲5 Venturini Clément Arkéa - B&B Hotels 33:43
36. 47 ▲11 Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 6″ 35:20
37. 33 ▼4 Barguil Warren Team Picnic PostNL 35:39
38. 44 ▲6 Yates Adam UAE Team Emirates - XRG 36:24
39. 35 ▼4 Eenkhoorn Pascal Soudal Quick-Step 36:49
40. 37 ▼3 Delettre Alexandre Team TotalEnergies 37:21
41. 41 - Hoelgaard Markus Uno-X Mobility 37:23
42. 46 ▲4 Van Wilder Ilan Soudal Quick-Step 37:42
43. 42 ▼1 Cras Steff Team TotalEnergies 37:45
44. 43 ▼1 Campenaerts Victor Team Visma | Lease a Bike 38:25
45. 38 ▼7 Vlasov Aleksandr Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 38:38
46. 52 ▲6 Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 38:39
47. 39 ▼8 Berckmoes Jenno Lotto 38:59
48. 53 ▲5 Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40:16
49. 50 ▲1 Paret-Peintre Aurélien Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 41:01
50. 48 ▼2 Powless Neilson EF Education - EasyPost 41:56
51. 51 - Mühlberger Gregor Movistar Team 42:39
52. 45 ▼7 Sweeny Harry EF Education - EasyPost 43:16
53. 55 ▲2 Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 44:19
54. 49 ▼5 Thomas Geraint INEOS Grenadiers 44:39

Some of the guys 15-30 won't be able to hold up in the mountains, and a bunch of climbers and GC guys who will be moving up starting tomorrow: Barguil (? injured?), A Yates, Van Wilder, Cras, Vlasov, APP, G (??)....anyone else stand out?

What does the 14" next to Healy mean?

cumulative bonus seconds

rider's get bonus time is for being Top 3 for a Category 1 or HC climb, and at the stage finish (I don't think they offer bonus seconds for intermediate sprints but there may be exceptions)

displaying the rider's total bonus seconds for the race tells us how close the race would be without bonus seconds

for one crazy example, if you look at the cumulative times for Pogačar and Vingegaard over the last four Tour de France races - when each has finished 1st 2x and 2nd 2x - and then subtract the bonies, they are separated by two (2) seconds over those 84 stages

 

[Tick]

End-of-Tour points scoring:

Top 30 GC
Top 10 Mountain
Top 10 Points
Top 5 Team

Top 54 GC after Stage 11 (no change to Top 14):

Rnk Prev ▼▲ Rider Team UCI Time

1. 1 - Healy Ben EF Education - EasyPost 25 14″ 41:01:13
2. 2 - Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates - XRG 26″ 0:29
3. 3 - Evenepoel Remco Soudal Quick-Step 1:29
4. 4 - Vingegaard Jonas Team Visma | Lease a Bike 14″ 1:46
5. 5 - Jorgenson Matteo Team Visma | Lease a Bike 2:06
6. 6 - Vauquelin Kévin Arkéa - B&B Hotels 2:26
7. 7 - Onley Oscar Team Picnic PostNL 4″ 3:24
8. 8 - Lipowitz Florian Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:34
9. 9 - Roglič Primož Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 3:41
10. 10 - Johannessen Tobias Halland Uno-X Mobility 5:03
11. 11 - Gall Felix Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5:38
12. 12 - Rodríguez Carlos INEOS Grenadiers 5:44
13. 13 - Mas Enric Movistar Team 5:56
14. 14 - Jegat Jordan Team TotalEnergies 6:32
15. 16 ▲1 Martin Guillaume Groupama - FDJ 10:44
16. 17 ▲1 Narváez Jhonatan UAE Team Emirates - XRG 11:29
17. 18 ▲1 O'Connor Ben Team Jayco AlUla 11:50
18. 15 ▼3 Skjelmose Mattias Lidl - Trek 12:45
19. 19 - Grégoire Romain Groupama - FDJ 15:15
20. 20 - Buchmann Emanuel Cofidis 15:41
21. 22 ▲1 Kuss Sepp Team Visma | Lease a Bike 19:49
22. 23 ▲1 Yates Simon Team Visma | Lease a Bike 10″ 20:26
23. 24 ▲1 Meurisse Xandro Alpecin - Deceuninck 21:28
24. 25 ▲1 Arensman Thymen INEOS Grenadiers 6″ 22:06
25. 27 ▲2 Rodríguez Cristián Arkéa - B&B Hotels 23:14
26. 28 ▲2 Madouas Valentin Groupama - FDJ 23:28
27. 26 ▼1 Berthet Clément Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 23:50
28. 21 ▼7 Benoot Tiesj Team Visma | Lease a Bike 23:57
29. 30 ▲1 van der Poel Mathieu Alpecin - Deceuninck 20″ 25:11
30. 29 ▼1 Pacher Quentin Groupama - FDJ 27:08
    
    
31. 31 - Blackmore Joseph Israel - Premier Tech 29:19
32. 32 - Scotson Callum Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 30:18
33. 34 ▲1 Baudin Alex EF Education - EasyPost 30:20
34. 36 ▲2 Higuita Sergio XDS Astana Team 31:34
35. 40 ▲5 Venturini Clément Arkéa - B&B Hotels 33:43
36. 47 ▲11 Simmons Quinn Lidl - Trek 6″ 35:20
37. 33 ▼4 Barguil Warren Team Picnic PostNL 35:39
38. 44 ▲6 Yates Adam UAE Team Emirates - XRG 36:24
39. 35 ▼4 Eenkhoorn Pascal Soudal Quick-Step 36:49
40. 37 ▼3 Delettre Alexandre Team TotalEnergies 37:21
41. 41 - Hoelgaard Markus Uno-X Mobility 37:23
42. 46 ▲4 Van Wilder Ilan Soudal Quick-Step 37:42
43. 42 ▼1 Cras Steff Team TotalEnergies 37:45
44. 43 ▼1 Campenaerts Victor Team Visma | Lease a Bike 38:25
45. 38 ▼7 Vlasov Aleksandr Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe 38:38
46. 52 ▲6 Laurance Axel INEOS Grenadiers 38:39
47. 39 ▼8 Berckmoes Jenno Lotto 38:59
48. 53 ▲5 Burgaudeau Mathieu Team TotalEnergies 40:16
49. 50 ▲1 Paret-Peintre Aurélien Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 41:01
50. 48 ▼2 Powless Neilson EF Education - EasyPost 41:56
51. 51 - Mühlberger Gregor Movistar Team 42:39
52. 45 ▼7 Sweeny Harry EF Education - EasyPost 43:16
53. 55 ▲2 Velasco Simone XDS Astana Team 44:19
54. 49 ▼5 Thomas Geraint INEOS Grenadiers 44:39

Some of the guys 15-30 won't be able to hold up in the mountains, and a bunch of climbers and GC guys who will be moving up starting tomorrow: Barguil (? injured?), A Yates, Van Wilder, Cras, Vlasov, APP, G (??)....anyone else stand out?

What does the 14" next to Healy mean?

Number of bonus seconds he's earned

So those overall GC times already include the bonus seconds, they’re just telling us how much the time shown was affected by bonuses, right?

ETA: already answered.

 

[BassNBrew]

I also can't believe Johannesson took out Tadej's front wheel like that. That was just amateurish.

Everyone in front of him veered to the right, Pogacar was uncharacteristically inattentive.

Not that it wasn't a clumsy move by Johannessen, but if Pogacar was fully alert he wouldn't have crashed.

You're never going to convince me he didn't chop Tadej's wheel

Agreed. If someone had done that to me on a local ride I would there would have been a major A$$ Whooping going down.

 

[BassNBrew]

Quinn Simmons has turned into an absolute beast. Gonna be a heck of a classics rider. On the days he's not in the break, he's pulling the pelton.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Quinn Simmons has turned into an absolute beast. Gonna be a heck of a classics rider. On the days he's not in the break, he's pulling the pelton.

He and Onley have been the revelations of the tour to me.