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***Official Aaron Rodgers 2 Pass Attempts on One Play Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
I missed the play. Was it a double-lateral? Or was the pass batted back into Rodgers' face?
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
It should be an illegal forward pass, but I imagine that Chicago declined the penalty. So I guess they nullify the original pass and only count the 2nd one? Or do they count the first one and then call the 2nd one a fumble?Right now NFL.com is calling it a -7 yard rush and a fumble for Rodgers.
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strykerpks
Footballguy
No pass attempt.
Fumble, recovered by Rodgers, another fumble recovered by the Bears.
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Fumble, recovered by Rodgers, another fumble recovered by the Bears.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The first one would be a completed pass to himself (why in the world would the first one be ruled a fumble?). The second is a fumble (same thing as a forward lateral).
strykerpks
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
His arm was most definitely going forward, at least in the 1st case. It was a pass that was deflected back to him. The 2nd one, if IIRC, was also a throw although not as clear.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Watch it again.His arm was most definitely going forward, at least in the 1st case. It was a pass that was deflected back to him. The 2nd one, if IIRC, was also a throw although not as clear.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
It was pretty obvious that both were fumbles. Empty hand in both cases.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Ah, thanks. I didn't actually see the play, I just assumed from the description further up in the thread that it was a forward pass batted back to him, like we've seen in years past.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
It doesn't matter if his arm was going forward if the refs ruled it a fumble. I suppose they could have reviewed the play for scoring purposes, but the net result would have been the same.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
My question is why did he get negative rushing yards on the play? It says he got -7 yards rushing before the first fumble. Shouldn't that just have been a sack/fumble, and hence no negative rushing yards?
This will be the difference in a playoff game this week in our league.
This will be the difference in a playoff game this week in our league.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
The Play-By-Play is saying that he rushed first (minus 7 yards), THEN fumbled, then recovered the fumble (minus 2 yards), then fumbled again.1 rush for -7 yards
1 fumble
1 fumble recovered
1 fumble return for -2 yards
1 fumble
1 fumble lost
It's possible that the Elias Sports Bureau changes the play, but we won't find out until Wednesday.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Video of the play
ETA--Sorry, but that 1st one looks like a pass to me. I'd call it a pass, reception, fumble.
ETA--Sorry, but that 1st one looks like a pass to me. I'd call it a pass, reception, fumble.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Stand your ground, man! This is vital.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Watching the replay, it was clearly a passing play, he was clearly trying to throw the ball on the first part where he lost 7 yards. If a quarterback drops back to pass and gets sacked and fumbles, does he get negative rushing yards normally? If not, I can't see how they wouldn't change it to take that 7 yards lost away.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
No, one forward pass per play. If you throw a screen pass that the RB catches behind the LoS, that RB can't then throw a forward pass. Your scenario would be the same as that.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
It's only allowed if the 1st pass travels backward, i.e., a lateral.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Open hand dude. It doesn't matter if his arm is moving forward, the ball is no longer there.
It doesn't matter what you would call it. If the NFL rules it a fumble (or two fumbles), then that is how it will be scored, for FF purposes.
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smackdaddies
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Aaron Rodgers gets more done before noon than most people do all day.
Young 8
Footballguy
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Young 8
Footballguy
Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears
* Aaron Rodgers: from 4 Rushes for -6 Yards to 3 Rushes for 6 Yards.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 2 Sacks Against for 11 Yards to 3 Sacks Against for 23 Yards.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 2 to 1 Fumbles.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 1 to 0 Own Fumble Recoveries.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 4 Rushes for -6 Yards to 3 Rushes for 6 Yards.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 2 Sacks Against for 11 Yards to 3 Sacks Against for 23 Yards.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 2 to 1 Fumbles.
* Aaron Rodgers: from 1 to 0 Own Fumble Recoveries.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
it's one fumble.
look at it this way: if he was a running back...
i'm sure some running backs have done that in the past without even trying to pass. for example, a running back gets the ball, bobbles it, the ball goes backwards, he grabs it before it hits the ground, then loses the ball for good a couple minutes later.
why is this so complicated?
look at it this way: if he was a running back...
i'm sure some running backs have done that in the past without even trying to pass. for example, a running back gets the ball, bobbles it, the ball goes backwards, he grabs it before it hits the ground, then loses the ball for good a couple minutes later.
why is this so complicated?
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
This actually lost me a game by one point. Luckily meaningless as it's in the losers bracket.* Bears Defense: from 2 Sacks for 11 Yards to 3 Sacks for 23 Yards.
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