**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (2 Viewers)

[rjv]

If Rodgers plays, what is the realistical production? The WRs obviously take a huge jump up but who would Rodgers be ranked higher than?

I've been wondering the same thing. I have Rivers/Rodgers, so it could be a tough call.

What I hope is that he is back to his old self chucking it all day with the occasional hand offs to the RBs but it could go the total opposite to keep him safe so if they make the playoffs, he is 100%I'm really considering Cutler over him this week.

 

[sho nuff]

Wow if he doesn't play this week its ridiculous - risk of injury on almost every play in the NFL. Not career threatning if he re-breaks it. I am guessing he'd have to fall in a smiliar fashion for the injury to re-occur but hey that's why it happened anyways in the first place.

Bottom line get him out there.

It is good to see that people are beginning to see things my way. Erin needs to play.

I don't think its good that people are ignorant of what is keeping Rodgers off the field.

I don't understand that line of thinking. If Rodgers could be out there, he would be out there. It's the doctors keeping him from playing, not him or McCarthy.

Well...the poster I responded to likes to live up to his name.

 

[MattFancy]

If Rodgers plays, what is the realistical production? The WRs obviously take a huge jump up but who would Rodgers be ranked higher than?

I've been wondering the same thing. I have Rivers/Rodgers, so it could be a tough call.

What I hope is that he is back to his old self chucking it all day with the occasional hand offs to the RBs but it could go the total opposite to keep him safe so if they make the playoffs, he is 100%I'm really considering Cutler over him this week.

That's my fear is that they play it safe. It's not like Rivers has a bad matchup against Oakland. But I traded for Rodgers the week he got hurt and really haven't had a chance to use him. Being able to play him in the championship would be huge.

 

[drummer]

At halftime of the Monday night game, Adam Schefter said that Rodgers will be examined on Wednesday by Dr. Pat McKenzie. "This is not a football decision. This is a medical decision. It belongs to Dr. McKenzie". No way to possibly tell where this will end up or when we will get definitive word on Rodgers' status. My guess is Wednesday afternoon, but that's just a guess. The good news is there's no Thursday night game this week.Pure speculation on my part, but here is what I think:- Rodgers' last scan was a couple weeks ago. There is some controversy as to whether he had a scan done last Thursday afternoon. My guess is that he did not have a scan.- I am guessing that Rodgers has a scan on Wednesday.- My guess is that when Rodgers initially sustained the injury, Dr. McKenzie had a timetable in mind of 6-10 weeks. If the low end diagnosis was longer (in other words, 8-10 weeks) then the earliest Rodgers could have come back would be week 16, and I'd think they would have just IR'd him at that point and opened up a much needed roster spot. So, in short, I think we are in the window where they thought Rodgers could come back. Sunday will be 7 weeks since the injury.- My guess is that Rodgers does indeed get medical clearance and plays this week.

What's your point? I provided some substantive, late breaking news, and then provided my own bit of speculation as someone who has been following this closely. You trying to drum up trouble with me? Might want to rethink that.

My guess is that you think too much of yourself.

Well isn't that special. A completely unprovoked insult lobbed at someone for making a completely benign, helpful post in the Shark Pool in direct response to a request from another member for opinions on whether Rodgers would start or not.

Let me break it down for you drummer boy. I eat punks like you for breakfast. So take your useless trolling ### and go #### yourself.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Wow if he doesn't play this week its ridiculous - risk of injury on almost every play in the NFL. Not career threatning if he re-breaks it. I am guessing he'd have to fall in a smiliar fashion for the injury to re-occur but hey that's why it happened anyways in the first place.

Bottom line get him out there.

It is good to see that people are beginning to see things my way. Erin needs to play.

I don't think its good that people are ignorant of what is keeping Rodgers off the field.

I don't understand that line of thinking. If Rodgers could be out there, he would be out there. It's the doctors keeping him from playing, not him or McCarthy.

People like meatwad don't understand this.

 

[LawFitz]

IF he plays, he projects well in the event that Big Ben is rolling and Pit D is stopping the run. Pit is 19th in rush yds per game and tied for 17th in YPC, so statistically middle of the road for the season, though I'm not sure how they've been trending lately.

 

[General Tso]

If Rodgers plays, what is the realistical production? The WRs obviously take a huge jump up but who would Rodgers be ranked higher than?

I've been wondering the same thing. I have Rivers/Rodgers, so it could be a tough call.

What I hope is that he is back to his old self chucking it all day with the occasional hand offs to the RBs but it could go the total opposite to keep him safe so if they make the playoffs, he is 100%I'm really considering Cutler over him this week.

That would be his old old self. Green Bay really has morphed into a very balanced attack. If anything they are heavier on the run than most other teams. Their passing play percentage is 57% which ranks 21st out of 32 teams.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Appearing on his Tuesday radio show, Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) was vague on his Week 16 status, but said "there has to be some level of risk-reward conversation."

That could be interpreted one of two ways, but we take it to mean Rodgers believes the Packers have to throw caution to the wind at some point. Rodgers said he felt "more like myself" last week, and hinted at cautious optimism for Week 16. "My hope is that I practice (Wednesday) ... experience no setbacks, mentally or physically, and we’ll go from there." He cryptically added "nobody is 100 percent at this point of the season." Rodgers is closer than ever to returning, but it still appears the decision could go either way. The Packers simply aren't letting outside concerns rush their franchise player's return. We'll learn a lot about Rodgers' Week 16 status on Wednesday.

Related: Matt Flynn

Source: Rob Demovsky on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Aaron Rodgers plans to practice for Green Bay Packers

 

[Interseptopus]

Aaron Rodgers plans to practice for Green Bay Packers

So same news, another day?

 

[sho nuff]

Aaron Rodgers plans to practice for Green Bay Packers

"Sadness and frustration. But not anger," Rodgers said. "I have a ton of respect for (Dr.) Pat (McKenzie). He does an incredible job."

"Sometimes those guys need to save you from yourself."

Seems opposite of how some in here wanted to portray these things.

Also in there when he talks about projecting days since the last scan and so on seems to indicate that there was actually a scan last week...also contrary to what some in here want to believe.

 

[Interseptopus]

At halftime of the Monday night game, Adam Schefter said that Rodgers will be examined on Wednesday by Dr. Pat McKenzie. "This is not a football decision. This is a medical decision. It belongs to Dr. McKenzie". No way to possibly tell where this will end up or when we will get definitive word on Rodgers' status. My guess is Wednesday afternoon, but that's just a guess. The good news is there's no Thursday night game this week.Pure speculation on my part, but here is what I think:- Rodgers' last scan was a couple weeks ago. There is some controversy as to whether he had a scan done last Thursday afternoon. My guess is that he did not have a scan.- I am guessing that Rodgers has a scan on Wednesday.- My guess is that when Rodgers initially sustained the injury, Dr. McKenzie had a timetable in mind of 6-10 weeks. If the low end diagnosis was longer (in other words, 8-10 weeks) then the earliest Rodgers could have come back would be week 16, and I'd think they would have just IR'd him at that point and opened up a much needed roster spot. So, in short, I think we are in the window where they thought Rodgers could come back. Sunday will be 7 weeks since the injury.- My guess is that Rodgers does indeed get medical clearance and plays this week.

What's your point? I provided some substantive, late breaking news, and then provided my own bit of speculation as someone who has been following this closely. You trying to drum up trouble with me? Might want to rethink that.

My guess is that you think too much of yourself.

Well isn't that special. A completely unprovoked insult lobbed at someone for making a completely benign, helpful post in the Shark Pool in direct response to a request from another member for opinions on whether Rodgers would start or not.Let me break it down for you drummer boy. I eat punks like you for breakfast. So take your useless trolling ### and go #### yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I6qHBE_7aM&sns=em

 

[John 14:6]

I think I'm going to stick with rivers regardless.like his match up a lot more...

They won't need to throw. :( This game has 30 carries for Mathews written all over it.

Unless the chargers follow the chiefs model and throw it to Matthews all day long!!!

 

[General Tso]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

 

[Interseptopus]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

Rodgers has a scan every week

 

[General Tso]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

Rodgers has a scan every week

From the article (and it's an ESPN article written by Rob Demovsky):

"Rodgers and McKenzie will have another meeting Wednesday to determine the quarterback's course of action this week and whether he can return for Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Rodgers said he does not expect to have another scan because he has "an idea what it's going to look like based on the previous one, the amount of days we have between scans [and can] project that forward to a similar amount of days."

 

[The Kerminator]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

But you insisted last week that the consensus in this thread was that Rodgers did not have a scan. You beat it to death. So this can't possibly be true. The writer must have his facts wrong.

I think just about every Packer fan acknowledges that the Packers are very conservative when it comes to injuries. It's been mentioned several times in this thread.

 

[sho nuff]

Nobody has said the Packers are not conservative with injuries.

What many disagreed with was the claim that they have been criticized for this (by people other than those whining about it here)

 

[ghostguy123]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

and you wonder why people think you are braindead on here.

did you really think they didnt scan him out last week??? Well, yes you did cause you kept saying they didn't. But of course now you say he did.

Do you really think that just because you read somewhere that no scan is scheduled, that he isnt going to get one? This is the exact same argument you made last week for believing that he didn;t get a scan last week.

I will anticipate pretty much an exact copy of this email next week when you realize he did in fact get a scan this week.

Remarkable, just remarkable.

 

[ghostguy123]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

But you insisted last week that the consensus in this thread was that Rodgers did not have a scan. You beat it to death. So this can't possibly be true. The writer must have his facts wrong.

I think just about every Packer fan acknowledges that the Packers are very conservative when it comes to injuries. It's been mentioned several times in this thread.

Damn I shoulda read this before my last post, you beat me to it.

This injury issue and how it is being handled has nothing to do with the Packers being conservative.

Any other team in the league would be doing this same thing with their QB with this injury, and if they played him anyway, that would be more along the lines of wreckless as opposed to being less conservative

 

[General Tso]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

and you wonder why people think you are braindead on here.

did you really think they didnt scan him out last week??? Well, yes you did cause you kept saying they didn't. But of course now you say he did.

Do you really think that just because you read somewhere that no scan is scheduled, that he isnt going to get one? This is the exact same argument you made last week for believing that he didn;t get a scan last week.

I will anticipate pretty much an exact copy of this email next week when you realize he did in fact get a scan this week.

Remarkable, just remarkable.

What's remarkable is that some people inhere posing as being in the medical field think that he's getting a ct scan every week. Now that is remarkably idiotic. Guessing that you probably work as an orderly.

 

[General Tso]

And for the record, nobody but Aaron Rodgers and Dr. McKenzie reall know if and when a scan was done last week. Neither the Packers or Rodgers have issued any statement on the record, which has led to speculation upon speculation and reading of tea leaves in here. You and Dr. Brew seem to think that ct scans are given every week. Neither of you has any idea what you are talking about. As a matter of fact my ### hole made more sense when I farted 5 minutes ago. Why do you think Rodgers and the Packers are so tight lipped about the scans? You think long and hard about that.

Soooo, reading the tea leaves, parsing statements made by Rodgers, and piecing together various news reports - is a very fluid situation and changes almost daily. If you can't understand the complexities of that I can't help you.

I stand by my most recent speculation - that Rodgers has gotten scans 2 weeks in a row, and that due to radiation concerns is not going to get another one this week.

 

[sho nuff]

Seems you are the one who does not understand much of the situation.

 

[The Kerminator]

And for the record, nobody but Aaron Rodgers and Dr. McKenzie reall know if and when a scan was done last week. Neither the Packers or Rodgers have issued any statement on the record, which has led to speculation upon speculation and reading of tea leaves in here. You and Dr. Brew seem to think that ct scans are given every week. Neither of you has any idea what you are talking about. As a matter of fact my ### hole made more sense when I farted 5 minutes ago. Why do you think Rodgers and the Packers are so tight lipped about the scans? You think long and hard about that.

Soooo, reading the tea leaves, parsing statements made by Rodgers, and piecing together various news reports - is a very fluid situation and changes almost daily. If you can't understand the complexities of that I can't help you.

I stand by my most recent speculation - that Rodgers has gotten scans 2 weeks in a row, and that due to radiation concerns is not going to get another one this week.

Can you at least be consistent in your arguments? Here's what I said about whether Rodgers had a scan last week:

3) Consensus that he wasn't given a scan based on what? A couple of articles speculating. And maybe they had him practice to see how he would respond physically. And he didn't take all the first team reps, very few. Flynn still got all the reps he needed.

And your reply:

3. Articles speculating that a scan hadn't been done? Speculating? First of all, congrats on the multi-syllablism. Secondly, there's this great new thing called Google. You ought to try it sometime. Here's an article from the AP addressing the issue of a scan - using Rodger's own words:

Asked after Thursday's practice if he is holding out hope of playing Sunday, Rodgers paused before replying, "Yes."

He says he'll need to get most of the work in Friday's practice after sharing snaps with backup Matt Flynn for the past two days, and the team will likely want team physician Patrick McKenzie to examine him. Rodgers' last CT scan was done on Dec. 3 and did not show sufficient healing in the bone to get him cleared to play.

As of Thursday afternoon, Rodgers said he had not been scanned. He also would not say whether a scan has been scheduled. Asked if he would be scanned before the week is out, Rodgers replied, "I'm not sure about that."

Are we really going to go down this road again this week about whether Rodgers is having a scan? You were wrong last week and now you are back for more?

 

[General Tso]

Wait a minute. Wasn't it you who said these famous words?

Where do you get the 'if he doesn't get a scan' from? All reports say he has gotten weekly scans, if not more than one a week.

All reports? Weekly scans? More than one a week? You do realize that ct scans pose a radiation risk to the patient, correct? http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/cancer/art2816.html

Heck, Rodgers even mentioned this concern in his radio show today. In my opinion they are NOT giving him weekly ct scans, and the reason they are being so tight lipped about when and if scans are done are not to protect the privacy of Rodgers (he clearly seems to want to talk about it and has dabbled around the issue a few times) but to protect Dr. McKenzie. This is a highly respect physician and ct scans are a bit controversial right now. He has probably told Rodgers not to talk about the frequency with which he is getting them done.

So I repeat - nobody knows if and when he is getting scans. My response to you last week on "speculation" was to point out that in one particular online article there was a clear cut quote from Rodgers saying that a scan had not been done by Thursday afternoon, and that this was not speculation. That was fact. What we found out LATER - after piecing together all the cryptic quotes, was that he probably had the scan Thursday afternoon after practice. But I repeat - we still don't know even that, do we?

So here's the deal. I continue to post relevant, timely information in this thread along with my own speculation. And when I do speculate I go out of my way to make it clear that this is my own opinion and not fact (so much so that it apparently annoyed idiot troll drummerboy). You, on the other hand, you continue to incessantly ##### and moan in useless postings that my speculations have evolved and changed as the story has developed. It's classic passive aggressive behavior and is really pretty pathetic. It's cowardly in a way. Sorry bro, but I can't see into the future no more than anyone else. What I can do is gather as much information as possible, analyze it as best I can, and provide that info to the people in here who might find it useful to have during championship week.

So bring something useful to the discussion or take a hike.

 

[PatsWillWin]

This is the weirdest topic to get all douchey and argumentative about. This thread is amazing.

 

[drummer]

This is the weirdest topic to get all douchey and argumentative about. This thread is amazing.

Gener-LHUCKS eats this #### for breakfast.

 

[valhallan]

Well, I figured there might be some news here but it seems to be the usual personal squabbling that's invaded this forum. WTF is going on these days?

 

[drummer]

Well, I figured there might be some news here but it seems to be the usual personal squabbling that's invaded this forum. WTF is going on these days?

Democracy

 

[Interseptopus]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/5129/rodgers-injury-shows-doc-player-kinship

Good article on the Rodgers injury. Highlights:

- article says he did have a scan last Thursday. No source cited for this and still no official word on it from Rodgers or the team. With this new info I'm inclined to believe he did in fact have a scan last Thursday afternoon.

- no scan scheduled for this week. Not good.

- article reiterates what some don't want to acknowledge around here - "It's commonly known around the league the Packers take a more conservative approach with players returning from injury".

Doesn't sound to me like he's getting cleared this week.

and you wonder why people think you are braindead on here.

did you really think they didnt scan him out last week??? Well, yes you did cause you kept saying they didn't. But of course now you say he did.

Do you really think that just because you read somewhere that no scan is scheduled, that he isnt going to get one? This is the exact same argument you made last week for believing that he didn;t get a scan last week.

I will anticipate pretty much an exact copy of this email next week when you realize he did in fact get a scan this week.

Remarkable, just remarkable.

What's remarkable is that some people inhere posing as being in the medical field think that he's getting a ct scan every week. Now that is remarkably idiotic. Guessing that you probably work as an orderly.

Read back a few pages. I was the first one to point out the fact that he likely was getting ct scans not x rays only. And I also highlighted the risks of ct scans. Read before you criticize:

However, I would not classify Rodgers as a slow, average, or fast healer by his length in recovering from this.

Yeah, I think we will have our answer to this question once he is actually healed.

If he were to be fully healed right now, I would consider him a very fast healer. What are we at right now, pretty much exactly 5 weeks? I could see the simplest of simple breaks being fully healed at that point. But as mentioned 1000 times, I didn't see his xray.

Even after this I wouldn't use it to generalize Rodgers as a fast or slow. I wouldn't use someone's recovery from a broken bone to make that opinion. A strained hamstring or a sprained ankle, sure, but not a bone. Bones have so many other factors - which is why I felt compelled to enter this thread in the first place. Some people were making false claims in relation to his heart and that he should play and "it's just a collar bone." They didn't realize that this isn't a sprained ankle, it isn't a separated shoulder or a torn labrum, something he could play with; it's something that needs to heal, period. I think, for the most part, people get it now. If he took 6 weeks to come back from a strained hamstring then yes he would be a slow healer.

If he was back this week or last week, I wouldn't classify him as a fast healer. I'd be curious about the medical staffs decision, but that's hard to criticize if you don't have first hand access to his scans. Maybe it was a very tiny break and he was good to go, I couldn't say. If he came back I'd think that would say more about the severity of the break rather than his healing abilities, for me at least.

I am guessing he is having CT scans... Given the rumors of it being a very small fracture, and they are looking at specific healing, I am guessing they are doing CT scans since this is the only thing that can see this much detail. X-rays are good but they don't see this much detail and hairline fractures are hard to really assess with a standard X-ray. Which is also why they only do 1 a week... That's a lot of radiation (one CT scan is equal to ~200 X-rays! And the average person can safely have 300 X-rays a year before worrying about their long term health) Maybe that explains why earlier this week I was very skeptical that they would do another one prior to today's game.

 

[MCguidance]

If Rodgers plays, what is the realistical production? The WRs obviously take a huge jump up but who would Rodgers be ranked higher than?

I've been wondering the same thing. I have Rivers/Rodgers, so it could be a tough call.

What I hope is that he is back to his old self chucking it all day with the occasional hand offs to the RBs but it could go the total opposite to keep him safe so if they make the playoffs, he is 100%I'm really considering Cutler over him this week.

There were more than occasional handoffs to the RBs with Rodgers under center. They were very balanced this year.

 

[Interseptopus]

If Rodgers plays, what is the realistical production? The WRs obviously take a huge jump up but who would Rodgers be ranked higher than?

I've been wondering the same thing. I have Rivers/Rodgers, so it could be a tough call.

What I hope is that he is back to his old self chucking it all day with the occasional hand offs to the RBs but it could go the total opposite to keep him safe so if they make the playoffs, he is 100%I'm really considering Cutler over him this week.

There were more than occasional handoffs to the RBs with Rodgers under center. They were very balanced this year.

There was an article in the local paper talking about how GB has stressed the run this year, and done well at it... Even with Rodgers.

I really don't see him as startable in a championship game. It's high risk/reward but for me I have a decent replacement in rivers so I imagine the difference would only be about 2-3 points between the two.

If you're desperate, go for it, throw him in if he plays. I think he does play this week. There's actually almost no doubt in my mind that he plays. How well he plays is anybody's guess. I just figure it can't be that much better than rivers this week

 

[Insein]

I think I'm sticking with Alex Smith even if he does play. Smith is hot and Rodgers will be rusty. Just can't risk it.

 

[flapgreen]

This thread sucks

 

[towney]

This is what concerns me

Aaron Rodgers plans to practice Wednesday, but the Green Bay quarterback doesn't sound optimistic his next scan will reveal significant changes to the status of his injured collarbone. NFL.com

Doesn't sound to me he'll be starting wk 16

 

[ghostguy123]

What's remarkable is that some people inhere posing as being in the medical field think that he's getting a ct scan every week. Now that is remarkably idiotic. Guessing that you probably work as an orderly.

As of a couple weeks ago as he was approaching the expected minimum recovery time, he has absolutely been getting whatever scans needs to be done to clear him to play every week since then, and will until he either plays or the season is over.

 

[ghostguy123]

And for the record, nobody but Aaron Rodgers and Dr. McKenzie reall know if and when a scan was done last week. Neither the Packers or Rodgers have issued any statement on the record, which has led to speculation upon speculation and reading of tea leaves in here. You and Dr. Brew seem to think that ct scans are given every week. Neither of you has any idea what you are talking about. As a matter of fact my ### hole made more sense when I farted 5 minutes ago. Why do you think Rodgers and the Packers are so tight lipped about the scans? You think long and hard about that.

Soooo, reading the tea leaves, parsing statements made by Rodgers, and piecing together various news reports - is a very fluid situation and changes almost daily. If you can't understand the complexities of that I can't help you.

I stand by my most recent speculation - that Rodgers has gotten scans 2 weeks in a row, and that due to radiation concerns is not going to get another one this week.

lol.

So let me get this straight. The ONLY way he can get cleared is through the proper scans, but they aren't doing them anymore.

You do realize this makes it impossible to clear him then, right? Well, if what you said is true anyway, which it isn't.

 

[ghostguy123]

I would say if he plays he is definitely startable. He wouldnt be top 2-3 on my ranking like he usually is each and every week.

Just depends on my other options, but he is top 10 this week if he plays.

 

[hwjchim]

Even if Rodgers is starting this week...

I am sticking with Cutler vs. Philly....

 

[General Tso]

And for the record, nobody but Aaron Rodgers and Dr. McKenzie reall know if and when a scan was done last week. Neither the Packers or Rodgers have issued any statement on the record, which has led to speculation upon speculation and reading of tea leaves in here. You and Dr. Brew seem to think that ct scans are given every week. Neither of you has any idea what you are talking about. As a matter of fact my ### hole made more sense when I farted 5 minutes ago. Why do you think Rodgers and the Packers are so tight lipped about the scans? You think long and hard about that.

Soooo, reading the tea leaves, parsing statements made by Rodgers, and piecing together various news reports - is a very fluid situation and changes almost daily. If you can't understand the complexities of that I can't help you.

I stand by my most recent speculation - that Rodgers has gotten scans 2 weeks in a row, and that due to radiation concerns is not going to get another one this week.

lol.

So let me get this straight. The ONLY way he can get cleared is through the proper scans, but they aren't doing them anymore.

You do realize this makes it impossible to clear him then, right? Well, if what you said is true anyway, which it isn't.

Dude, don't put words in my mouth. I never said "they aren't doing (scans) anymore". I said, right in the last sentence of the post you quoted, that "due to radiation concerns is not going to get another one THIS WEEK". That comment is based on the ESPN article I cited where Rob Demovsky, a very respected Packers best writer, wrote:

"Rodgers and McKenzie will have another meeting Wednesday to determine the quarterback's course of action this week and whether he can return for Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Rodgers said he does not expect to have another scan..."

You got a beef with that then take it up with Demovsky.

 

[Koya]

Will practice today. Throw some passes, catch some balls "with the left hand"

Will partake in tackling drills, both being tackled, and practicing the interception tackles.

After that, will have a lefthanded arm wrestling match followed by a left hand only one on one tug of war tournament.

Won't be cleared to play.

 

[Sarnoff]

Well, I figured there might be some news here but it seems to be the usual personal squabbling that's invaded this forum. WTF is going on these days?

Packers brown-nosers must always have the last word.

 

[rjv]

Even if Rodgers is starting this week...

I am sticking with Cutler vs. Philly....

As am I the more I think about it

 

[Koya]

Even if Rodgers is starting this week...

I am sticking with Cutler vs. Philly....

As am I the more I think about it

Matchups like that would be a near no brainer.

The discussion is Rodgers or a middling QB or QB with a bad matchup - not one of the better qbs with huge weapons against a very good fantasy matchup.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

LOL I'd roll with Rodgers over Cutler. Cutler looked terrible against Cleveland and GB is coming to play at home and for the playoffs - I could see Rodgers steam rolling a very average Steelers defence who when faced Elite Qb's this year have given it up (Stafford and Brady).

 

[John 14:6]

This thread sucks

I just added four people from this thread to my ignore list. It's much better now.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Wait a minute. Wasn't it you who said these famous words?

Where do you get the 'if he doesn't get a scan' from? All reports say he has gotten weekly scans, if not more than one a week.

All reports? Weekly scans? More than one a week? You do realize that ct scans pose a radiation risk to the patient, correct? http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/cancer/art2816.html

Heck, Rodgers even mentioned this concern in his radio show today. In my opinion they are NOT giving him weekly ct scans, and the reason they are being so tight lipped about when and if scans are done are not to protect the privacy of Rodgers (he clearly seems to want to talk about it and has dabbled around the issue a few times) but to protect Dr. McKenzie. This is a highly respect physician and ct scans are a bit controversial right now. He has probably told Rodgers not to talk about the frequency with which he is getting them done.

So I repeat - nobody knows if and when he is getting scans. My response to you last week on "speculation" was to point out that in one particular online article there was a clear cut quote from Rodgers saying that a scan had not been done by Thursday afternoon, and that this was not speculation. That was fact. What we found out LATER - after piecing together all the cryptic quotes, was that he probably had the scan Thursday afternoon after practice. But I repeat - we still don't know even that, do we?

So here's the deal. I continue to post relevant, timely information in this thread along with my own speculation. And when I do speculate I go out of my way to make it clear that this is my own opinion and not fact (so much so that it apparently annoyed idiot troll drummerboy). You, on the other hand, you continue to incessantly ##### and moan in useless postings that my speculations have evolved and changed as the story has developed. It's classic passive aggressive behavior and is really pretty pathetic. It's cowardly in a way. Sorry bro, but I can't see into the future no more than anyone else. What I can do is gather as much information as possible, analyze it as best I can, and provide that info to the people in here who might find it useful to have during championship week.

So bring something useful to the discussion or take a hike.

The next time you do that, will be the first.

 

[General Tso]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/18/reading-tea-leaves-aaron-rodgers-works-with-backup-center/

Rodgers not taking first team snaps today. This, combined with his radio show comments yesterday (ie - "You can probably guess"), make it very unlikely he's playing this week (my opinion).

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Ewwww this is disgraceful - I really can't believe he is not going to play again.

 

[Koya]

Ewwww this is disgraceful - I really can't believe he is not going to play again.

Just what is "disgraceful" about it?

This is a medical issue. He's not cleared.

Why such a straight forward, simple explanation seems to be obtuse to so many here is beyond me.

And I would like him back as much as anyone for my Championship game, but it's easy to understand why it won't happen.