HellToupee
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"we are the ones we've been waiting for"
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I liked the "We are the ones we've been waiting for" line. Even a subpar Obama speech is better than anything else I have heard tonight.The "not up to par" speech bug is catching. Obama could have been much stronger.
That's more than I can say for you, guy.I think his speech is getting old now.
geez you're whistling past the graveyardI think his speech is getting old now.
I know! I'm awesome with fresh ideas! I brighten up every thread!!That's more than I can say for you, guy.I think his speech is getting old now.
You gonna shave the Brutis the Buckeye beard first?I'm going to whore myself out as the "white guy for the white guys" in the background of all future Obama speeches. That one guy was in prime real estate. But I could do better.
Even a subpar Obama speech is better than anything else I have heard tonight.

I enjoyed it. But I would say the schedule has been obvious in the general energy level of the candidates.The "not up to par" speech bug is catching. Obama could have been much stronger.
:fingerscrossed:I think I'm staying up all night for California. ETA: Apparently not.Obama takes the lead in Missouri!
CNN analyst..."Hillary carried everybody who makes less than 50K per yearObama carried everybody who makes more than 50K per year"Obama clearly carrying the intellectual vote...very frusterating.

Yeah, the African-Americans are real tornInteresting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
Talk about a house divided.Dems:Obama takes the lead in Missouri!
3,211 votes difference between Obama and ClintonRepubs:Obama 387,064 49% Clinton 383,853 49%Edwards 16,367 2%Uncommitted 3,023 0%
4% difference between 1st and 3rd place.McCain 188,763 33%Huckabee 181,646 32%Romney 166,515 29%
Obama won 81% of the black vote.Hillary 63% of the Hispanic vote.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
And Missouri.CA for McCain
I heard Begala's remark. I must admit I'm a bit confused how he says that considering the very exit polls CNN has been posting all night long. Obama >80% for African-Americans, Clinton carried the Latino vote, in most states Clinton carried the white vote.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
It's all about the delegate counts at this point. It would have been great for him to win the popular vote, but he can still do really well in the # of delegates.I'm psyched about the Mizzou turnaround.#### Cali....![]()
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How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
Translucent vs. merely pale?How much race is there to split on the Republican side?Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
It's all about the delegate counts at this point. It would have been great for him to win the popular vote, but he can still do really well in the # of delegates.I'm psyched about the Mizzou turnaround.#### Cali....![]()
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Translucent vs. merely pale?How much race is there to split on the Republican side?Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
to both posts.Good point.How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
On the Rep side is more about level of redneckness, look at Huckabee in the southern states.How much race is there to split on the Republican side?Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
It's both.It's all about the delegate counts at this point. It would have been great for him to win the popular vote, but he can still do really well in the # of delegates.I'm psyched about the Mizzou turnaround.#### Cali....![]()
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Which is it? Missouri will basically break even on delegates. Either it's a big win and California is a disappointment or the net delegate count won't be that bad for Obama.
yeah...wonder where he was coming from exactly...could it be that lopsided on the class front??I heard Begala's remark. I must admit I'm a bit confused how he says that considering the very exit polls CNN has been posting all night long. Obama >80% for African-Americans, Clinton carried the Latino vote, in most states Clinton carried the white vote.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
Yea. It's not like there are any Asians, Indians, Cubans, etc. who vote for Republicans.Good point.How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
I wondered that myself. All over the county by county maps Obama has drawn massive support from the large cities where I would suspect those that actually live are lower income. Maybe my assumption was wrong but that one confused me.yeah...wonder where he was coming from exactly...could it be that lopsided on the class front??I heard Begala's remark. I must admit I'm a bit confused how he says that considering the very exit polls CNN has been posting all night long. Obama >80% for African-Americans, Clinton carried the Latino vote, in most states Clinton carried the white vote.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
Hell Bush got 44% of the latino vote in 2004. I don't think they count though. Not brown enough.Yea. It's not like there are any Asians, Indians, Cubans, etc. who vote for Republicans.Good point.How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
the upperclass Dems are getting it, it's the lowerclasses that aren't.I hope every Democrat was paying attention when Ari Fleischer was on CNN telling everyone that the Republicans and "Praying every night" that they get to face Hillary in the General Election.
I hope you're right.California is going to tighten up and the delegates will split evenly. The number of states that Obama won tonight makes it clear which way the wind is blowing.
Because of the unique mechanics of this, it can be both. Obama is going to be trailing in delegates. He's going to need to tell a story. The story to tell is that he won 12 or however many primaries. At the same time, that story wouldn't have mattered if this had been a winner take all event and he had lost Mass, NY, NJ, and California. By the same token, if Barack had lost every primary by only 2 or 3 percentage points, then maybe he would be still competitive on delegates. But Clinton could tell a very compelling story about momentum. That she won 22 primaries.Despite what was being reported after Iowa, Obama has to win this thing in the fourth quarter if he's going to do it. It looks like he'll at least be in the game.It's all about the delegate counts at this point. It would have been great for him to win the popular vote, but he can still do really well in the # of delegates.I'm psyched about the Mizzou turnaround.#### Cali....![]()
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Which is it? Missouri will basically break even on delegates. Either it's a big win and California is a disappointment or the net delegate count won't be that bad for Obama when factoring in California and Missouri.
Yep...the Republican Party is like a Benetton ad.Yea. It's not like there are any Asians, Indians, Cubans, etc. who vote for Republicans.Good point.How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
This has to be schtick now, right?the upperclass Dems are getting it, it's the lowerclasses that aren't.I hope every Democrat was paying attention when Ari Fleischer was on CNN telling everyone that the Republicans and "Praying every night" that they get to face Hillary in the General Election.
lolRepublican Cubans and Indians, key constituencies in any GOP primary.Yep...the Republican Party is like a Benetton ad.Yea. It's not like there are any Asians, Indians, Cubans, etc. who vote for Republicans.Good point.How much race is there to split on the Republican side? I'm curious to see how hard conservative pundits hit this. Seems like it's a trap for them.Interesting that Dems are split among class more than race.(according to CNN)
NMWhat's left? Missouri and Alaska?
McCain's in the winner's circle already. That Romney couldn't capitalize on the dislike for McCain with conservatives in the South ended his chances. Huckabee is more a regional than a national candidate.McCain takes Cali and Missouri. That's got to pretty much wrap it up, no?