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C'mon now. You know darn well he won 18 games because of run support. 240+ hits is Silva-like. If he thought Cellular Field was tough to pitch in, just wait. A 4.51 era for a #2 starter on a potential playoff team isn't too good.The White Sox did great here if Hirsh is included.
Aside from 29 additional base runners and 20 more earned runs (a weird ratio there), his 2006 numbers are almost identical to his 2005 numbers. His K, BB, HR, IP/G, etc were all very similar.
Wrong, he did last year.
In 2005, Garland was lucky. That's it. He gave up a ton of hits, but not a ton of runs. He got lucky. It doesn't mean he's horrible because there's value in a guy who can consistently thrown 200+ innings. But he is not the Cy Young candidate guy of 2005.
I agree - the ERA was high, but that was due to a horrible first 2 months of the season, and it later came out that he was going suffering from an injured shoulder.All in all, he was the White Sox #1 starter, and pretty good from June on.
No question they did well in this trade if Hirsh is there. I just don't think Garland performed nearly as bad as people think, especially if you look at what a terrible start he got off to compared to how well he pitched down the stretch.
670AM the Score out of Chicago just reported this deal is NOT going to happen.Also, with the apparant signing of Meche by KC, the Cubs will now go after Marquis.
When Contreras fell off, Garland carried the load.
Tell me about Hirsh - is he ready to pitch in the majors .
Yeah, they jumped on the ESPN Radio 1000 report that said the deal was cooling off because of Tavaraz.It's pretty obvious though that Williams is shopping more Sox starters.
Really? Marquis in Wrigley? Seriously?Are they selling seats outside the park behind center field these days?
The Astros best prospect and one of the better and more 'ready' pitching prospects in baseball. Here are his numbers last season in AAA:2006 24 AAA ROU 13w 2.10era 1.049whip 118k
As a Cardinals fan, I would LOVE to see this move. With the addition by subtraction of him being gone, and, then going to the Cubs, this would be great for the Cards. They would get to beat up on him 4-5 times a year. Could be the difference in 1st or 2nd place in the Central.
This is correct.
Maybe if we label it a bowl game?
or as an interview with an 80's icon actor. Or "So I met this girl online...."
will probably be the only list in the world to include Clemente and Uggla.
Not unless Bonds hits the 22 HRs in the offseason
And just like that the Royals do the impossible and make Padilla a 'bargain'.
That's been up for quite a while (at least 6 hours), so it's possible he's already passed his physical and completely official. Not saying it no longer applies, just that things could have completely changed since the story was written.curta269 said:
This is why teams like the Royals stay in the cellar forever. That's essentially the same contract that AJ Burnett is playing under IIRC ($11mil per). AJ > Gil. Is it THAT hard to get guys to come play in KC? Does Gil Meche @ 11 mil per really excite the KC faithful?
One thing I will say, Meche instantly becomes KC's best pitcher.
Baseball Prospectus came up with the analogy that it's like a welfare family buying a plasma TV that doesn't work.
Glad I can take your hard hitting opinion to the bankthe fact is that NO ONE will say ANYTHING good about KC until they make the postseason. the east coast media doesn't care what happens here. KC could go and get Zito and people would say it was a bad signing.
Spending just to spend is hardly a defendable position. Sorry but Meche sucks. Take that money and throw it back into scouting. Send it to your season ticket holders as a rebate. Throw it into the streets of Kansas City. But giving it to Gil Meche is just insane. Credibility is also a factor in trying to get people to take your organization seriously. Moves like this aren't helping.
4 out of 5 chance he sucks. Sounds about right.
I just think their money could have been better spent. I'm a Cubs fan, so I'm constantly rooting for the underdog anyway. It just saddens me when the Royals or the Pirates make a boneheaded move like this, because it takes forever for them to recover. Just ask the Brewers fans if that fat contract to Jeffrey Hammonds (or Teddy Higuera before him) a few years ago didn't sting.But hey, I'm happy if you're happy.
It's a lot like the Jays last season who had to overpay (at the time) for Burnett and Ryan because over the past years, there had been more people leaving Toronto than coming (for various reasons including a low payroll despite Toronto being a huge market, high taxes, weak Canadian dollar, etc...). The idea with those signings was that they would make a splash by signing a couple very good pitchers and establish the Jays as a legit competitor again and it's worked. There are free agents who now want to come to Toronto because they see Halladay/Burnett/Ryan are all there until 2010.In theory, KC could be doing the same thing with Meche and maybe Batista but neither one is even on the level of Burnett, much less Halladay or Ryan and honestly they aren't going to do anything to change the fortunes of the Royals. No one is going to want to go to KC because Meche is there. He's a good #3 starter, maybe.
A healthy Brian Bannister will give him a run.
He's no worse than Padilla or Maddux (at this point) or Eaton or Lilly. If nothing else it's a start...plus if he's as average as everyone thinks, they can always trade him down the line since SP is always at a premium at the deadline.
Actually I'd argue that he is worse. He was a headcase in Seattle of Lohseian proportions and usually found himself sent to the minors (when he wasn't hurt) for portions of the season until last year. And last year all he did was get battered around in a pretty friendly home park for pitchers. I think brutal would be a kind word.
If Gagne can pass a physical, he'd be a huge addition to that team. They've had a glaring need for a veteran closer for a while now.
Dotel would have to pay me to play if I was a GM. And then I'd stick him in AA for at least half a season before letting him see real game action. Gagne is a good risk if you can get him for middle relief price. Lieber is so-so. Overpaid, but pretty reliable if your expectations are reasonable.
Depends on what they pay them. This isn't difficult.
at a KC fan screaming East Coast bias. There's no bias, your team just sucks.
Let's see the contracts first. Meche on a 1 year $8 mil deal like Randy Wolf got would have been semi defendable as it would still provide KC an 'ace' but not be an anchor of a contract.
Wait, Taveras?REALLY? 
