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Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (3 Viewers)
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Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
Brewtown can take a 
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BAM
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Great fit with Tennessee. 
Biabreakable
Footballguy
There is some serious cognitive dissonance when one can write how productive a player was in games and then turn around and say that he has t-shirt and shorts althleticism in the same paragraph.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Well, many people's #1 RB goes to the #1 situation for a RB, congratulations guys. Good stuff.
EBF
Footballguy
I like it, but only because it means other people will be burning high rookie picks on him.
That being said, Greene is pretty bad and this was the best RB situation on the market. No reason why he can't do something resembling a Zac Stacy in 2014.
I do think Greene will be a little harder to nudge aside than D-Rich/Pead though.
That being said, Greene is pretty bad and this was the best RB situation on the market. No reason why he can't do something resembling a Zac Stacy in 2014.
I do think Greene will be a little harder to nudge aside than D-Rich/Pead though.
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jurb26
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Tenn traded up to select him as the 1st RB off the board. I think he has no issues pushing Greene aside and the job is his unless something crazy happens. Maybe he loses some GL/Short yardage work due to his size and power. Otherwise, this is a dream situation for anyone high on Sankey prior to the draft. Tenn already has a great oline in place and drafted Lewan to bolster it more. He was my top rated RB going in, this widens the gap.
jurb26
Footballguy
Yes, absolutely. Depends on league format but in standard scoring I think he will go 1 overall more often than Watkins or Evans.
Take that fast-twitch! 1.01I like it, but only because it means other people will be burning high rookie picks on him.
That being said, Greene is pretty bad and this was the best RB situation on the market. No reason why he can't do something resembling a Zac Stacy in 2014.
I do think Greene will be a little harder to nudge aside than D-Rich/Pead though.
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Bronx Bomber
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Id hate to take that chance, then watch them draft Gurley, Yeldon, Gordon, Davis, etc. next year
duaneok66
Footballguy
agreed.I like it, but only because it means other people will be burning high rookie picks on him.
That being said, Greene is pretty bad and this was the best RB situation on the market. No reason why he can't do something resembling a Zac Stacy in 2014.
I do think Greene will be a little harder to nudge aside than D-Rich/Pead though.
they traded down with Philly though.
Anyhow, ever since Joe Morris played for the gmen I've been down on lil RBs like everyone else but anxiously awaiting the next interesting prospect and there has been many. Lil Joe proved it's possible. It's very difficult to tell which stick and which are too small though. MJD was spud webb's height so I didn't expect him to do so well or play so long, but he sure did. He was thick.
I didn't realize Barry was small til like year four of his career so I've never seen a player play bigger. He was built like an adonis.
Marshall had some moves and was so slick.
I don't know Sankey and have been looking and reading some...I don't see what's so special about him.
Obviously people here like him and the top RB off the board, even late, means something. He better show whatever is special about him right away. Despite the hatred on these boards for Shonn, he's had 1000 yard seasons. I loved Battle last year slamming into defensive players and his hard-nosed style of running is just fun. They won't give Sankey the job. It's available, sure, and someone should step in but he needs to be more MJD and less Leon Washington. Smallish RBs quickly get thrown into 3rd down back roles like Leon.
I hope some of you are right and he is going to be a good pro. If so, they have some nice RB depth. If not, it's probably three average to below-average RBs plus Leon.
I don't know Jeremy Hill but being picked right after had me googling. I was more intrigued by him. 6-1 233 makes me more comfy he can handle the NFL. The highlights I saw were impressive and....I hope you Sankey fans are right.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Drafting situation over talent rarely works out. Moving a guy up because he lands in TN will backfire.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that Bishop can only run diagonally?
duaneok66
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
werdnoynek
Footballguy
I posted this previously in this thread when considering landing spots. Greene is almost a certainty for the short yardage / goal line role. Then there's McCluster... they've been on record saying he'll be playing RB for the Titans and the Woodhead role is a fit for him. So if we're going off of what was done in SD, that leaves Sankey for the Mathews role which isn't bad at all. He'll get the ball between the 20's and have limited receptions. In PPR it definitely handicaps him, but in non-PPR he's got value for sure.
ETA: Talent is limited with this one, IMO.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
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McCluster & green are scrubs, role players.
true it may impact Sankey while he gets up to speed and acclimated, but the cream rises
...he's the first rb taken in the draft. This isn't Lamar Miller or Daniel Thomas
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Scrubs can still be impact guys too.
McCluster is not someone you want to sleep on this season, IMO. As a Charger fan, you know that the Woodhead role is a potential gold mine at RB. That may have more to do with Mathews than it did offensive philosophy, but I don't think it's a stretch to put McCluster in that role and keep Sankey on the sidelines on third down or certain passing situations.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
I've never read that he will solely play RB for the Titans.
Whisenhunt has said he's intrigued by his ability to play different positions.
Battle is fine for short yardage. When he was ineffective, the line stunk, and he about literally went down fighting.
Wyatt (who I do love) went a little far with that sentence or maybe it's just the offseason and we're jumping on it...idk...
Whisenhunt said something along the lines of- he is more of a runningback than a WR, but we'll use him in whichever role gives us the best chance to win.
The video is no longer on titansonline which is grrr here in replying to this.
If you google you can see plenty of sites quoting him
Later, week or so I'd guess, he said Kendall Wright has a unique skillset and no one other than McCluster could really fill the role he has in plans for him. I took that as no one is quick enough with good enough hands except McCluster.
One of the exciting things this offseason, for me and oh so many Wright owners in FF, has been Whisenhunt realizing how dynamic Wright is and every little tiny tidbit he gives us where he's scheming to get Wright in space. No WR has ever ran so many 5 yard routes over the middle as Wright in the boring offense last year. It "killed" me so I sort of turn my ears up for any quote of him being used differently.
At the CJ presser, the GM quickly pointed out that they don't lack speed or quickness with Wright around.
All this offseason talk has given me this feel that they have big plans for Wright and McCluster is a very important backup to him. IE if Wright goes down, they are totally stuck without McCluster to fill the spot.
Granted McCluster won't sit around doing nothing until the day (that hopefully doesn't come) Wright gets hurt or even spell him when tired, but there's been enough talk that I don't think there is anyway one can say McCluster is solely going to play RB.
I love Wyatt, again, and am uncomfortable disputing the source. I hope this rant explained it well enogh
Versatility, Titans' new backfield buzzword
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Chris Johnson had one primary characteristic.
Super speed.
He used it to run for more than 2,000 yards in 2009. He used it to get more 1,000 yards in six straight seasons. He used it to race a cheetah.
He's still very fast, but his home run hitting dropped off dramatically, his price was too high and the Titans parted ways with him.
Second-round pick Bishop Sankey should be the lead member of the committee that replaces Johnson. At pick No. 54, Sankey was the first running back drafted, and the Titans started a mini-run at the position. Jeremy Hill went to Cincinnati with the next pick and Carlos Hyde went to San Francisco with the 57th pick.
The buzzword for Sankey and the entire Titans backfield is now versatility.
Sankey's work won't hinge on one thing. The Titans see a runner who can go inside or out, has good vision and understanding of where he should go. He can catch and pass protect.
"I'm a guy that likes to use his eyes when I'm running," he said. "I feel like I'm patient enough to press the line of scrimmage and make the correct read and cut. I think that does work to my advantage as far as being a running back and running down the field and making guys miss in that second level."
While they can lean on Shonn Greene for short-yardage and pure power situations and turn to Dexter McCluster as a jitterbug pass catcher, they expect to lean on Sankey as a three-down back when they want to.
"Really, what he brings to us is a great deal of versatility: vision, feet, ability to catch the football," general manager Ruston Webster said. "The important thing for us in picking one of these backs was to get the right fit for the coaches' offense. Versatility and the ability to play on three downs was really one of the main criteria."
Said Titans West scout Marv Sunderland: "He has a great style. He is more than just kind of a speed guy. He can run inside and can run outside. He can get outside, he can run through guys, and he can break the long runs. He has great hands out of the backfield, and he is a good blocker."
Sankey said he's been compared to Giovani Bernard and LeSean McCoy. Bernard is just getting started with the Bengals but had a fine rookie year. McCoy is one of the league's best -- and most versatile -- backs.
Sunderland sees another fine NFL runner in Sankey.
"The guy that he most reminds me of is a guy from when I was with the Giants, we had Tiki Barber," he said. "He runs a lot like Tiki. Tiki put the ball on the ground, this kid doesn't."
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Chris Johnson had one primary characteristic.
Super speed.
He used it to run for more than 2,000 yards in 2009. He used it to get more 1,000 yards in six straight seasons. He used it to race a cheetah.
He's still very fast, but his home run hitting dropped off dramatically, his price was too high and the Titans parted ways with him.
Second-round pick Bishop Sankey should be the lead member of the committee that replaces Johnson. At pick No. 54, Sankey was the first running back drafted, and the Titans started a mini-run at the position. Jeremy Hill went to Cincinnati with the next pick and Carlos Hyde went to San Francisco with the 57th pick.
The buzzword for Sankey and the entire Titans backfield is now versatility.
Sankey's work won't hinge on one thing. The Titans see a runner who can go inside or out, has good vision and understanding of where he should go. He can catch and pass protect.
"I'm a guy that likes to use his eyes when I'm running," he said. "I feel like I'm patient enough to press the line of scrimmage and make the correct read and cut. I think that does work to my advantage as far as being a running back and running down the field and making guys miss in that second level."
While they can lean on Shonn Greene for short-yardage and pure power situations and turn to Dexter McCluster as a jitterbug pass catcher, they expect to lean on Sankey as a three-down back when they want to.
"Really, what he brings to us is a great deal of versatility: vision, feet, ability to catch the football," general manager Ruston Webster said. "The important thing for us in picking one of these backs was to get the right fit for the coaches' offense. Versatility and the ability to play on three downs was really one of the main criteria."
Said Titans West scout Marv Sunderland: "He has a great style. He is more than just kind of a speed guy. He can run inside and can run outside. He can get outside, he can run through guys, and he can break the long runs. He has great hands out of the backfield, and he is a good blocker."
Sankey said he's been compared to Giovani Bernard and LeSean McCoy. Bernard is just getting started with the Bengals but had a fine rookie year. McCoy is one of the league's best -- and most versatile -- backs.
Sunderland sees another fine NFL runner in Sankey.
"The guy that he most reminds me of is a guy from when I was with the Giants, we had Tiki Barber," he said. "He runs a lot like Tiki. Tiki put the ball on the ground, this kid doesn't."
Of course you do...duaneok66 said:agreed.I like it, but only because it means other people will be burning high rookie picks on him.
That being said, Greene is pretty bad and this was the best RB situation on the market. No reason why he can't do something resembling a Zac Stacy in 2014.
I do think Greene will be a little harder to nudge aside than D-Rich/Pead though.
BoltzNBrew
Footballguy
Just because he went first doesn't mean anything. Proof will be on the field. I moved Sankey to RB1 based on situation but odds of me targeting him at 2 or 3 is slim. This class as a whole is one big bag of mediocrity. Being the best mediocre player is still a mediocre player. Not sure the payoff will be worth the price. I could be wrong but only time will tell.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
actually it does.... you new to this?ctrlaltdefeat said:
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
This. First RB taken in an extremely mediocre class and people are putting him ahead of potential stud WRs. Overreacting to his combine performance was only the beginning it seems.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
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gianmarco
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
Unfortunately ignore doesn't work when you quote him. I guess I'll respond now that I see he's been attempting to antagonize me.
Brewtown, he has yet to play a snap in the NFL. Let's see what he can do before we crown him an all pro.
BoltzNBrew
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Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
What do we know about Whiz the OC and RBs coaches at TENN and their track record developing and utilising their RBs?
