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Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (2 Viewers)
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jurb26
Footballguy
Right. We should be hyping the FBG/SP favorites like Crowell and Seastrunk as top 20 players even though they were Undrafted and 6th rounders in this mediocre class.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Currently in a rookie draft (2 conferences) and one draft is at 1.07 and the other is at 1.08 and Sankey still on the board in both drafts. (Hyper Active 1 dynasty leagues made up of FBGs). Is everyone on drugs, or does that tell you something different?
Edited: Only have to start 1 RB and up to 4.
Scoring is 1 PPR for RB/TE/WR.
Edited: Only have to start 1 RB and up to 4.
Scoring is 1 PPR for RB/TE/WR.
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jurb26
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
PPR / Standard scoring QB = 4 pts passing TDs. RB/WR/TE 1 pt per reception with 1 pt per 10 yards rush / rec
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ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Edit - nevermind
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JohnnyU
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
That tells me everyone is on drugs.
With PPR scoring, it makes more sense. This draft has a lot of good WRs.
Have any other RBs went ahead of him?
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like Sankey, but this doesn't mean he's the best RB in the class. It only means one team (as far as we know) also thinks he's the best RB in the class.
I preferred Hyde and Mason to Sankey - but with that said if I was in position to draft a RB I probably would lean towards Sankey now since it wasn't like I had those other two miles ahead of Sankey. Then again, I dont think either one of those RBs landed in awful spots either - both have potential to move to the top of the depth chart soon.
jurb26
Footballguy
I knew somebody would say this. We can speculate all we want about which teams had him ranked as the top RB and which didn't. The irrefutable fact is that he was the first RB taken. We can do the same speculation with every player, at every position.
cloppbeast
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
I hope you're not suggesting that we wait to see these RBs play in the NFL before determining who's best.
Because, that would obviously be crazy talk.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
cloppbeast
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
If you were in a draft that allowed so many college players, would you take Melvin Gordon and Mike Davis over Carlos Hyde and Sankey? The reason I ask is that would tell us a lot on how people feel about Hyde and Sankey really.
Gandalf
Footballguy
buck naked
Footballguy
I checked about 9 DWFC dynasty championship leagues rookie drafts right now - start 2 RB, ppr. Sankey went in 3rd or 4th in all but 1, where he went 6th.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
1 min RB leagues are slanted away from the spot anyway.
In mandatory 2RB leagues Sankey should go now lower than 3
BoltzNBrew
Footballguy
It's his arrogance and rubbing peoples noses in it that I don't like. Props for calling him the best in the class and that he was the first RB taken. I had Hyde 1 and Sankey 2. Add Hill and 3 RB went 4 picks apart. in the middle of the 2nd round. Just because Sankey went first doesn't mean he'll be #1 when all is said and done.
The way I see it, he's the best RB in the class until someone proves otherwise (oddly enough) like a reigning champ. Generally, 2-3 games in, we are calling someone else the best RB in their class. The stats will prove who is best. We do usually give them the title though for the summer.
IMO It doesn't get any better than Sylvester Croom as a RB coach. He's had three 2000 yard backs and his list of RBs who did well under him is a very nice resume.
He is one of the few Whisenhunt kept from the previous staff.
Sure someone can say "what about soandso" and that's fine, but Croom is one of the best.
For offense, the Titans aren't built like the Cards, Chargers, or Steelers. Whisenhunt brought in some former head coaches to be positional coaches and wants them around for input. Most have them running San Diego's offense last year with some modifications. What those exactly will be....time will tell.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
We should claim definitively before they play a down who the best RB in this class is? We, fantasy owners, surely need to speculate who is the best RB before they play a down of course.
I'm not suggesting anything. None of us know if Sankey is the best RB or not - and the fact he was the first RB taken only means we know the Titans think he's the best RB in the class. Maybe all 32 teams had him at the top, maybe half did - we don't know. San Francisco surely could have had Hyde at the top or Cincinnati, Hill.
Bottom line though is right now Sankey certainly has to be considered the best RB in the class for rookie draft purposes - I can agree to that.
lod01
Footballguy
I've mocked our league and I'm pretty sure this is what is going to happen in ours. I have Sankey at either 7 or 8 simply because those at the top of the draft have serious WR needs and not RB needs. One will take Ebron and one will take QB.
He should go sooner however. I just don't think he does.
William Green was the best RB in a poor class, TJ Duckett was #2.
One of my fave WRs last year was whom Hopkins whom the Texans drafted. One of the most exciting was the Vikes Patterson.
Neither was good for FF and the games they performed well were oh so hard to predict that most probably didn't start them.
I think Sankey (even with William Green or Duckett projections) is better for redraft than them. It's easier to predict RBs than rookie WRs and sometimes that's enough.
This WR crop is supposed to be special. If we see a bunch of them starting often during the preseason, that would be significant. I'd put the starting WRs over Sankey, but if anyone is a backup (regardless of name) I'd go with Sankey over them.
For dynasty, I'm planning on Duckett and Green and avoiding them. Because it's ff and part of the fun, I'm planning to roll with some UDFA or late picks and not dip my toe in the top RB waters.
One of my fave WRs last year was whom Hopkins whom the Texans drafted. One of the most exciting was the Vikes Patterson.
Neither was good for FF and the games they performed well were oh so hard to predict that most probably didn't start them.
I think Sankey (even with William Green or Duckett projections) is better for redraft than them. It's easier to predict RBs than rookie WRs and sometimes that's enough.
This WR crop is supposed to be special. If we see a bunch of them starting often during the preseason, that would be significant. I'd put the starting WRs over Sankey, but if anyone is a backup (regardless of name) I'd go with Sankey over them.
For dynasty, I'm planning on Duckett and Green and avoiding them. Because it's ff and part of the fun, I'm planning to roll with some UDFA or late picks and not dip my toe in the top RB waters.
Well we don't know on Hunter either with limited time and the Chargers had a lot of giant redwoods at WR for so many years now.
Titans don't have Gates or even an old Gates you trust anyway because of what he's accomplished. They do seem to have a good TE though.
The Chargers don't have a WR like Wright. Wright probably can't play like any of their tall WRs and neither can they play like him-they're just so different.
I haven't found Whisenhunt's offense to be oh so similar on each new team. He does do a good job of adjusting to the talent he has.
Locker is someone I'm not a fan of. I've watched people here go from loving Rivers to hating to falling in love again. The latter I credit Whisenhunt with. Warner had a bad o-line in NY, but I felt like he took a step backward then Whisenhunt righted that ship too. It's possible he can fix Locker. Whisehunt has not been perfect. There's guys that didn't pan out under him like Leinart.
Loggains had them do this dink and dunk offense that almost literally didn't include any medium routes. Like every Titan fan screaming at the TV last year, I believe simply throwing normal NFL routes will be an improvement for everyone. Three short passes, a sideline route thrown away, three more short passes....is a pattern that gnaws at you and eventually really frustrates ya. I'm willing to give Locker a chance and Whisenhunt seems to be. He has only played a little over a season's worth of games and did go from arguably the worst OC in NFL history(Chris Palmer) to Loggains. I think there's a chance he does well.
Tornacl
Footballguy
Sankey had production very near the top of all RBs in the nation last year, plus excellent production the year before. At the combine, Sankey had the best measurables. He was the first RB taken. And he landed in what was considered the best RB situation for a rookie to land in. I really don't see what's not to like about him. Is he going to end up being ADP? Probably not. Could he end up being a lot like Matt Forte? Absolutely - and I would take that all day long! Could he be similar to Gio Bernard? I could see that too, although I think Sankey is a better runner and Gio is a better receiver.
I only play in PPR leagues (some .5 ppr for RBs), and I expect him to come off the board around 1.04, after Watkins, Evans, and Beckham. If he fell to me at the 1.08 pick I would be pumped, but it ain't gonna happen.
I only play in PPR leagues (some .5 ppr for RBs), and I expect him to come off the board around 1.04, after Watkins, Evans, and Beckham. If he fell to me at the 1.08 pick I would be pumped, but it ain't gonna happen.
Denver724
Footballguy
Tornacl
Footballguy
Personally, I do, but I can see a good argument either way. One of my leagues has already started drafting, and OBJ went 1.03. If I were sitting at the 1.04 pick, I would expect to be choosing between Sankey and either Cooks or OBJ.
Gio was praised here a lot last year.
I was never sold on him.
The receptions are excellent and make him fantasy relevant, but as a runner statistically he's very unexciting. I've seen him play, he does have big play ability, but his rushing stats aren't anywhere near what people here pretend they are.
I absolutely want to see him get 18+ carries and see what happens and would love to have him on my roster as I expect good things if he gets that chance, but...quite frankly as the top RB taken Sankey better be a better runner than Gio. Many of those rushing stats per game are brutal.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BernGi00/gamelog//
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Not only was he was the 4th RB in the draft that year, but that same year the Saints took a 1st round WR. With Brees in his prime... Not only situation has to do with the other. Titans had completely different running backs and staff, who cares about 2007?
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Seems like most Sankey supporters are now hanging their hats on him being the first RB taken. A couple of guys from Alabama seem to be long forgotten... Draft position is nice and normally means the player will have a better chance at being successful, but it's hardly a certainty that they will be.
Looking back at the past few years, guys like David Wilson, Isaiah Pead, Ryan Williams, Jahvid Best, Dexter Mccluster, Donald Brown, Felix Jones, and Beanie Wells were all taken earlier and fell off. Some with injuries and some with inability to play at the next level.
Just saying...
Looking back at the past few years, guys like David Wilson, Isaiah Pead, Ryan Williams, Jahvid Best, Dexter Mccluster, Donald Brown, Felix Jones, and Beanie Wells were all taken earlier and fell off. Some with injuries and some with inability to play at the next level.
Just saying...
duaneok66
Footballguy
a lot of hype in that post. A lot of "greats". If he was that "great" then he would have been a top 10 pick.
Whateves - he was the first RB taken. You sound like you are related to EBF. Are you his first or second cousin?
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No - my analysis is that he is cash money and gonna roll up the NFL (I said that before the draft).
I would ask your opinion, but EBF may be on the phone....
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
Kinda surprised this wasn't posted yet, sorry if it was and I missed it:
Shonn Greene Has Surgery
Veteran running back Shonn Greene was already facing an uncertain role after the Tennessee Titans selected the 2014 NFL Draft's first running back, Bishop Sankey, at No. 54 overall.
Now Greene has another obstacle to lead-back duties.
The 28-year-old back is expected to miss the entirety of theTitans' organized team activities this spring after undergoing surgery on his right knee, the Tennessean's Jim Wyatt reports.
This is the same knee that required arthroscopic surgery last September, forcing Greene to miss five games.
Greene complained of soreness and experienced swelling in the knee after the Titans' recent three-day minicamp, per Wyatt.
It's a troubling sign, as new coach Ken Whisenhunt is counting on Greene to team with Sankey and Dexter McCluster in a three-pronged attack to replace Chris Johnson in the backfield.
If Sankey impresses coaches in offseason practices, Greene could find himself tumbling down the depth chart by the time he returns to the field for training camp.
Shonn Greene Has Surgery
Veteran running back Shonn Greene was already facing an uncertain role after the Tennessee Titans selected the 2014 NFL Draft's first running back, Bishop Sankey, at No. 54 overall.
Now Greene has another obstacle to lead-back duties.
The 28-year-old back is expected to miss the entirety of theTitans' organized team activities this spring after undergoing surgery on his right knee, the Tennessean's Jim Wyatt reports.
This is the same knee that required arthroscopic surgery last September, forcing Greene to miss five games.
Greene complained of soreness and experienced swelling in the knee after the Titans' recent three-day minicamp, per Wyatt.
It's a troubling sign, as new coach Ken Whisenhunt is counting on Greene to team with Sankey and Dexter McCluster in a three-pronged attack to replace Chris Johnson in the backfield.
If Sankey impresses coaches in offseason practices, Greene could find himself tumbling down the depth chart by the time he returns to the field for training camp.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
UW’s Bishop Sankey becomes first running back drafted, heads to Tennessee Titans
The Huskies’ Bishop Sankey became the first running back selected in this year’s NFL draft when the Tennessee Titans chose him with the 54th overall pick in the second round today.
This is the latest that the first running back has been taken in the history of the NFL draft. Last year, the Bengals drafted Giovani Bernard with the 37th overall pick — which was the latest the first back had been taken (until now).
In Tennessee, Sankey will join former UW quarterback Jake Locker, the Titans’ first-round pick in 2011.
Sankey, the former Gonzaga Prep (Spokane) standout, broke the Washington season rushing record with 1,870 yards as a junior in 2013. His 37 career rushing touchdowns, his 38 total touchdowns and his 327 rushing attempts in 2013 are also UW records.
Sankey was impressive at the NFL combine in February, running a 4.49-second 40-yard dash and bench-pressing 225 pounds 26 times (second-best among running backs at the combine).
Sankey is the first UW running back drafted since Rashaan Shehee went in the third round to Kansas City in 1998.
Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks
Bishop Sankey is outstanding in pass protection. He can play on all 3 downs very early in his career.
7:47 PM - 9 May 2014
The Huskies’ Bishop Sankey became the first running back selected in this year’s NFL draft when the Tennessee Titans chose him with the 54th overall pick in the second round today.
This is the latest that the first running back has been taken in the history of the NFL draft. Last year, the Bengals drafted Giovani Bernard with the 37th overall pick — which was the latest the first back had been taken (until now).
In Tennessee, Sankey will join former UW quarterback Jake Locker, the Titans’ first-round pick in 2011.
Sankey, the former Gonzaga Prep (Spokane) standout, broke the Washington season rushing record with 1,870 yards as a junior in 2013. His 37 career rushing touchdowns, his 38 total touchdowns and his 327 rushing attempts in 2013 are also UW records.
Sankey was impressive at the NFL combine in February, running a 4.49-second 40-yard dash and bench-pressing 225 pounds 26 times (second-best among running backs at the combine).
Sankey is the first UW running back drafted since Rashaan Shehee went in the third round to Kansas City in 1998.
Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks
Bishop Sankey is outstanding in pass protection. He can play on all 3 downs very early in his career.
7:47 PM - 9 May 2014
msommer
Footballguy
Got it in one.With Eddie Lacy winning ROY?msommer said:In fairness there was a pretty hefty debate last year regarding Gio's draft position and whether than meant that he was the best....We all know how that turned outBri said:
