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** Official Chicago Bears Draft Talk/Results ** (1 Viewer)

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So what do the beloved Bears do today ? Talk about it here!

Today's Daily Herald summarizes their options pretty well:

The Bears could plan ahead for the possible loss of Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs to free agency next off-season by seeking his successor. Alabama’s Demeco Ryans is the logical choice, although Ohio State’s Bobby Carpenter is bigger and faster.

The Bears could address “tight end,” which might be the closest thing they have to a position of need, by grabbing UCLA’s Marcedes Lewis.

Or they could tab one of 10 defensive backs who might come off the board in the first round, looking for an upgrade over 2005 sixth-round free safety Chris Harris or insurance for Mike Brown, who has missed 18 games with injuries over the past two seasons. No team ever has enough quality cornerbacks.

If Ohio State safety Donte Whitner and/or Florida State cornerback Antonio Cromartie unexpectedly falls to 26, the Bears might have a difficult time passing either of them up.

Of course, there are also lots of talk about trading down....

So, who do you want for the Bears today ?

Let's talk Bears!

 
I think the Bears are in a wonderful spot.

1) If any of the aforementioned LB/CB above fall to them, they can take them.

2) They could move down and then perhaps take a TE.

Their position is desirable with the 'projected' RB run at the end of the first and can deal down a few spots (perhaps Houston trades up?) & gain a 3rd rounder perhaps.

I'm not going to say such and such will happen, as we've seen with what was probably the lock of the NFL Draft with Bush going #1, not occur.

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To tell the truth, the only thing that I wouldn't be satisfied with is if the RB's are still on the board at the Bears pick & they take Mercedes Lewis with their pick. Why not gain the extra pick + get Lewis (if that's who they're after)?

 
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OT, S, TE or LB

Can anyone name the top 2 or 3 left at each position?
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OT - Winston JusticeTE - Mercedes Lewis, Leonard Pope

LB - DeMarco Ryans...

all still out there plus Holmes, Jackson at WR, lots of good DB's as well.

 
OT, S, TE or LB

Can anyone name the top 2 or 3 left at each position?
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OT - Winston JusticeTE - Mercedes Lewis, Leonard Pope

LB - DeMarco Ryans...

all still out there plus Holmes, Jackson at WR, lots of good DB's as well.
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No DB, no DB, please no DB, Take Lewis, Pope, Justice, Moss, top C, trade down for value. Fingers crossed.
 
COME ON JUSTICE!!! Please. He would be a steal for the Bears here.
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Or more picks. More picks is a good thing. Curious as to what the Bills gave them...
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My best is their 2nd rounder and their lower 3rd.
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Good guess. :thumbup: Great trade for the Bears. Two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders is awesome. A great influx of young players without having to pay any of them a ton of money. I love the move even though I would really be digging Winston Justice right now if they would have stayed.

 
I can't believe Justice has dropped this far. What happened?
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I don't get it. NY Giants gave up #20 and got a First, Third, and Fourth round pick.

Bears give up #26 and only get a Second and Third?

The difference between picking #26 and #42 is pretty big -- 16 picks = 1/2 a round. So they drop 1/2 a round and all they get back is a third round pick? I think they could have gotten another pick out of Buffalo -- maybe a fourth or fifth rounder.

Only thing I can think of is they want to save salary cap room and/or their targets are all sleepers and still on the board.

Or they looked at their first round track record and decided it wasn't worth the pain of paying an underperforming first round bust. (Michael Haynes, Terrell Davis, Mark Columbo, Cade McNown, Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis.)

 
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I can't believe Justice has dropped this far. What happened?
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I don't get it. NY Giants gave up #20 and got a First, Third, and Fourth round pick.

Bears give up #26 and only get a Second and Third?

The difference between picking #26 and #42 is pretty big -- 16 picks = 1/2 a round. So they drop 1/2 a round and all they get back is a third round pick? I think they could have gotten another pick out of Buffalo -- maybe a fourth or fifth rounder.

Only thing I can think of is they want to save salary cap room and/or their targets are all sleepers and still on the board.

Or they looked at their first round track record and decided it wasn't worth the pain of paying an underperforming first round bust. (Michael Haynes, Terrell Davis, Mark Columbo, Cade McNown, Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis.)
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They do seem better at evaluating 2nd and 3rd round talent.
 
I can't believe Justice has dropped this far. What happened?
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I don't get it. NY Giants gave up #20 and got a First, Third, and Fourth round pick.

Bears give up #26 and only get a Second and Third?

The difference between picking #26 and #42 is pretty big -- 16 picks = 1/2 a round. So they drop 1/2 a round and all they get back is a third round pick? I think they could have gotten another pick out of Buffalo -- maybe a fourth or fifth rounder.

Only thing I can think of is they want to save salary cap room and/or their targets are all sleepers and still on the board.

Or they looked at their first round track record and decided it wasn't worth the pain of paying an underperforming first round bust. (Michael Haynes, Terrell Davis, Mark Columbo, Cade McNown, Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis.)
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Looks like the sleeper scenario. They just took Danny Manning out of Abilene Christian. 5'11 205lbs 4.35 40. Fast, can return kicks but hasn't faced top notch competition.

Hub Arkush ranks him as the 12th best CB in the draft and projected him to go in 2nd or 3rd round.

 
If Justice and Pope are both still around, who does Chicago take?
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Pray for Pope -- Justice is Blind.I'm actually rooting for Marcedes Lewis.

Bada boom -- Justice just drafted
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Lewis has been gone since JAX picked him in the 1st round. No way Pope lasts another 15 picks. We're doomed to TE mediocrity again.
 
I can't believe Justice has dropped this far. What happened?
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I don't get it. NY Giants gave up #20 and got a First, Third, and Fourth round pick.

Bears give up #26 and only get a Second and Third?

The difference between picking #26 and #42 is pretty big -- 16 picks = 1/2 a round. So they drop 1/2 a round and all they get back is a third round pick? I think they could have gotten another pick out of Buffalo -- maybe a fourth or fifth rounder.

Only thing I can think of is they want to save salary cap room and/or their targets are all sleepers and still on the board.

Or they looked at their first round track record and decided it wasn't worth the pain of paying an underperforming first round bust. (Michael Haynes, Terrell Davis, Mark Columbo, Cade McNown, Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis.)
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Looks like the sleeper scenario. They just took Danny Manning out of Abilene Christian. 5'11 205lbs 4.35 40. Fast, can return kicks but hasn't faced top notch competition.

Hub Arkush ranks him as the 12th best CB in the draft and projected him to go in 2nd or 3rd round.
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I like this pick. He'll be a quality nickel guy in short order and have a great opportunity to make a splash on special teams. I think the special teams part is the big reason they drafted him. Nice pick.
 
I can't believe Justice has dropped this far. What happened?
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I don't get it. NY Giants gave up #20 and got a First, Third, and Fourth round pick.

Bears give up #26 and only get a Second and Third?

The difference between picking #26 and #42 is pretty big -- 16 picks = 1/2 a round. So they drop 1/2 a round and all they get back is a third round pick? I think they could have gotten another pick out of Buffalo -- maybe a fourth or fifth rounder.

Only thing I can think of is they want to save salary cap room and/or their targets are all sleepers and still on the board.

Or they looked at their first round track record and decided it wasn't worth the pain of paying an underperforming first round bust. (Michael Haynes, Terrell Davis, Mark Columbo, Cade McNown, Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis.)
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Looks like the sleeper scenario. They just took Danny Manning out of Abilene Christian. 5'11 205lbs 4.35 40. Fast, can return kicks but hasn't faced top notch competition.

Hub Arkush ranks him as the 12th best CB in the draft and projected him to go in 2nd or 3rd round.
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I like this pick. He'll be a quality nickel guy in short order and have a great opportunity to make a splash on special teams. I think the special teams part is the big reason they drafted him. Nice pick.
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Agreed. I totally had my heart set on a TE this year, though.
 
How about Joe Klopfenstein (TE-Col.) with next pick?

Pros: Joe has fine mobility, strength and good hands to be a quality pro performer. His athleticism and size for the position are optimal and his speed is very good. He has extremely high football intelligence. His good hands rank with any player in this draft. He is very quick off the snap and gets into and out of his cuts at top speed with fine separation speed. He has good lateral agility, balance, field vision and change of direction. He knows how to use his hands to beat the jam and get a smooth release out into the pattern. He is adept at blocking on the second level and can find the linebacker or safety and hit a moving target in the open field.

Cons: Needs to improve bulk and blocking ability. Needs to add muscle to his frame. Lower-body strength needs to be improved to have a better base when blocking.

Numbers: As a senior he caught 33 passes for 468 yards (14.2-yard average) and four touchdowns. As a junior, he caught 28 passes for 284 yards and four touchdowns. At the combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds with a 36” vertical jump and a 9’4” broad jump. Benched 225 pounds 27 times. He had a 1.55 time in the first ten yards of the 40, which is a fine number for a 255-pound athlete.

Skinny: May be the most underrated prospect in this entire class. His skills will allow him to double as an H-back performer, and he’ll be a difficult matchup in the red zone. He has the prototypical numbers for the position to become an early NFL starter and possible Pro Bowl performer soon in his career. He is similar to Todd Heap in size, athleticism, mobility and speed. Top 50 prospect on our board who probably falls to the third round. Fine talent with a big upside with teams like the Texans, Bills and Lions interested.

 
How about Joe Klopfenstein (TE-Col.) with next pick?

Pros: Joe has fine mobility, strength and good hands to be a quality pro performer. His athleticism and size for the position are optimal and his speed is very good. He has extremely high football intelligence. His good hands rank with any player in this draft. He is very quick off the snap and gets into and out of his cuts at top speed with fine separation speed. He has good lateral agility, balance, field vision and change of direction. He knows how to use his hands to beat the jam and get a smooth release out into the pattern. He is adept at blocking on the second level and can find the linebacker or safety and hit a moving target in the open field.

Cons: Needs to improve bulk and blocking ability. Needs to add muscle to his frame. Lower-body strength needs to be improved to have a better base when blocking.

Numbers: As a senior he caught 33 passes for 468 yards (14.2-yard average) and four touchdowns. As a junior, he caught 28 passes for 284 yards and four touchdowns. At the combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds with a 36” vertical jump and a 9’4” broad jump. Benched 225 pounds 27 times. He had a 1.55 time in the first ten yards of the 40, which is a fine number for a 255-pound athlete.

Skinny: May be the most underrated prospect in this entire class. His skills will allow him to double as an H-back performer, and he’ll be a difficult matchup in the red zone. He has the prototypical numbers for the position to become an early NFL starter and possible Pro Bowl performer soon in his career. He is similar to Todd Heap in size, athleticism, mobility and speed. Top 50 prospect on our board who probably falls to the third round. Fine talent with a big upside with teams like the Texans, Bills and Lions interested.
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Definitely our style, but we'll see. He's a workman-style TE. Not flashy, but he works his butt off.
 
How about Joe Klopfenstein (TE-Col.) with next pick?

Pros: Joe has fine mobility, strength and good hands to be a quality pro performer. His athleticism and size for the position are optimal and his speed is very good. He has extremely high football intelligence. His good hands rank with any player in this draft. He is very quick off the snap and gets into and out of his cuts at top speed with fine separation speed. He has good lateral agility, balance, field vision and change of direction. He knows how to use his hands to beat the jam and get a smooth release out into the pattern. He is adept at blocking on the second level and can find the linebacker or safety and hit a moving target in the open field.

Cons: Needs to improve bulk and blocking ability. Needs to add muscle to his frame. Lower-body strength needs to be improved to have a better base when blocking.

Numbers: As a senior he caught 33 passes for 468 yards (14.2-yard average) and four touchdowns. As a junior, he caught 28 passes for 284 yards and four touchdowns. At the combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds with a 36” vertical jump and a 9’4” broad jump. Benched 225 pounds 27 times. He had a 1.55 time in the first ten yards of the 40, which is a fine number for a 255-pound athlete.

Skinny: May be the most underrated prospect in this entire class. His skills will allow him to double as an H-back performer, and he’ll be a difficult matchup in the red zone. He has the prototypical numbers for the position to become an early NFL starter and possible Pro Bowl performer soon in his career. He is similar to Todd Heap in size, athleticism, mobility and speed. Top 50 prospect on our board who probably falls to the third round. Fine talent with a big upside with teams like the Texans, Bills and Lions interested.
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Definitely our style, but we'll see. He's a workman-style TE. Not flashy, but he works his butt off.
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Aaaaand he's a Ram now.
 
This draft is nerve-racking. Bears had a chance to add some electric playmakers and got only a division II corner so far. If we get Pope with the next pick, I'll be okay with it, but I'm very very nervous.

 
What a dissappointment. :thumbdown:
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YepThis draft has me bummed. For the life of me, I don't know why they traded out of the 1st round. Lewis was right there!

Maybe these coming picks will change my thoughts, but right now I'm PO'd.

 
Lewis has been gone since JAX picked him in the 1st round. No way Pope lasts another 15 picks. We're doomed to TE mediocrity again.
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Leonard Pope is overrated and this is a very deep TE class. Bears will find a good TE at some point. There are still plenty left.I think they are probably disappointed that the Cowboys sniped Fasano from them.

 
Lewis has been gone since JAX picked him in the 1st round. No way Pope lasts another 15 picks. We're doomed to TE mediocrity again.
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Leonard Pope is overrated and this is a very deep TE class. Bears will find a good TE at some point. There are still plenty left.I think they are probably disappointed that the Cowboys sniped Fasano from them.
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Pope is absolutely overrated. Lewis was not, but that got botched pretty fast.
 
This draft is nerve-racking. Bears had a chance to add some electric playmakers and got only a division II corner so far. If we get Pope with the next pick, I'll be okay with it, but I'm very very nervous.
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I agreed with their decision to move down. I didn't, nor did they I don't believe, thought M.Lewis would of went so soon. I think they'll go Pope, but Cincy is in front of them.

 
This draft is nerve-racking. Bears had a chance to add some electric playmakers and got only a division II corner so far. If we get Pope with the next pick, I'll be okay with it, but I'm very very nervous.
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I agreed with their decision to move down. I didn't, nor did they I don't believe, thought M.Lewis would of went so soon. I think they'll go Pope, but Cincy is in front of them.
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I thought Lewis was an assumed first-rounder. Certainly wasn't going to last to 42.
 
One of the better athletes I have seen in quite a while, hopefully Angelo/Smith can find a position for him.

 
TE Tony Scheffler goes off the board to Denver. Love this kid, but didn't expect him to go this high.

Bears can still target Pope or Dominique Byrd.

 
Bears took Devin Hester.

horrible pick, IMO.
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Uhh.... WTF. Pope would have been a STEAL there. I thought we got our return man with Manning?
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Clearly TE is not a priority for the Bears in this draft. They either have a guy in mind with one of their 3rd rounders or don't feel like they need to involve the TE in the offense more than what they have the past couple years. Seeing two DBs go with their first two picks is just fine by me though. I'll bet 10 of the top 20 guys on their board were DBs.

 
Bears took Devin Hester.

horrible pick, IMO.
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Uhh.... WTF. Pope would have been a STEAL there. I thought we got our return man with Manning?
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Clearly TE is not a priority for the Bears in this draft. They either have a guy in mind with one of their 3rd rounders or don't feel like they need to involve the TE in the offense more than what they have the past couple years. Seeing two DBs go with their first two picks is just fine by me though. I'll bet 10 of the top 20 guys on their board were DBs.
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Bears have a solid track record with DBs. I just would really like a true pass-catching TE.
 
Bears took Devin Hester.

horrible pick, IMO.
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Uhh.... WTF. Pope would have been a STEAL there. I thought we got our return man with Manning?
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Clearly TE is not a priority for the Bears in this draft. They either have a guy in mind with one of their 3rd rounders or don't feel like they need to involve the TE in the offense more than what they have the past couple years. Seeing two DBs go with their first two picks is just fine by me though. I'll bet 10 of the top 20 guys on their board were DBs.
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Bears have a solid track record with DBs. I just would really like a true pass-catching TE.
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I'm with you. I think they feel they can find one a little later though and I certainly like seeing more young DBs come into the mix. This is one of the deepest TE drafts in years so if they want one, they can still find one.
 
Didn't like the Hester pick at first but I wasn't thrilled with the Bradley pick last year either....Bradley proved me wrong...he's gonna be a good one. Too bad he got hurt in that Detroit game.

anyway, i'll hold out judgement on the hester pick. I saw this post on another board which definately made me feel better...

Guys...

I'm a huge Miami Hurricanes fan with memberships to their insider websites and gone to a few games before. Hester, if he woulda stayed in school might have been a top 10 pick next year. Miami was re-designing their offense to showcase him in a Reggie Bush manner.

He lined up at RB, WR, QB, and DB...He has amazing speed to the outside edge and really tries to make things happen with the ball. The NFL, especially this team will teach him discipline and give him direction. His biggest problem is he needs to learn playbooks. And do NOT compare Manning to him in the return game. There is no comparison to Hester and Manning in terms of explosion. Hester ran a 4.45 INJURED (Hamstring) during his combine. At the UM Pro Day he ran a blistering 4.34 and a 4.36...So watch out

I do hope we land a quality TE this year though...

 
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