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I wish they'd trade away half the team and get CJ. The problem is no one wants the bad half. YOU SUCK, BEARS. :(
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I wish they'd trade away half the team and get CJ. The problem is no one wants the bad half. YOU SUCK, BEARS. :(
twistd
Footballguy
I think that the Bears will go LT in the first round. I'm hoping they draft two O Linemen in the first five rounds. I suspect that they will draft a RB in the first three rounds, probably second or third. The RB class is deep. They could get a good one even waiting until the third. I think that they are planning on going back to the run this season. The WR group are really weak. The QB could really suck. So they are going to try to rebuild the line and focus on the running game.
Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
1. Jeff Otah
2. Chilo Rachal
3. Earl Bennett
3. Kevin Smith
2. Chilo Rachal
3. Earl Bennett
3. Kevin Smith
Rounders
Footballguy
I have not been a fan of his, but I think that Zbikowski could be a very good fit for the Bears Cover 2 defense. He reminds me a lot of Mike Brown.works for meRounders said:
Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
Somehow, it seems like it would be pretty hard to mess up this draft. I definitely want them to go O-line in the first, but after that it seems like they could go any number of directions and still come out okay.
Rounders
Footballguy
You would think, but then again Angelo will probably draft all defensive players and say hey look at our defense, it lead us to the Super Bowl!!!
Max Power
Footballguy
Report: Urlacher suggests he could retire
Brian Urlacher (neck, back) has reportedly suggested that he may consider retirement if the Bears don't follow through on upgrading his contract.
If he proves injury, Urlacher could keep the $13 million in bonuses he got upon signing his six-year extension in 2003. He's skipping all the Bears' voluntary workouts, which already cost him $250,000, and threatening to sit out mandatory work as well. To make matters worse, Lance Briggs is sitting out voluntaries, possibly because he's unhappy with his brand new deal. Apr. 18 - 1:28 am et
Source: Chicago Sun Times
Brian Urlacher (neck, back) has reportedly suggested that he may consider retirement if the Bears don't follow through on upgrading his contract.
If he proves injury, Urlacher could keep the $13 million in bonuses he got upon signing his six-year extension in 2003. He's skipping all the Bears' voluntary workouts, which already cost him $250,000, and threatening to sit out mandatory work as well. To make matters worse, Lance Briggs is sitting out voluntaries, possibly because he's unhappy with his brand new deal. Apr. 18 - 1:28 am et
Source: Chicago Sun Times
RBM
Footballguy
Unbelievable.Im really getting sick of himReport: Urlacher suggests he could retire Brian Urlacher (neck, back) has reportedly suggested that he may consider retirement if the Bears don't follow through on upgrading his contract.If he proves injury, Urlacher could keep the $13 million in bonuses he got upon signing his six-year extension in 2003. He's skipping all the Bears' voluntary workouts, which already cost him $250,000, and threatening to sit out mandatory work as well. To make matters worse, Lance Briggs is sitting out voluntaries, possibly because he's unhappy with his brand new deal. Apr. 18 - 1:28 am etSource: Chicago Sun Times
Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
Urlacher's response to article above:
Bears' Urlacher: 'I never said that I was going to quit'
Linebacker disputes report that he wants a trade or will retire
By Vaughn McClure | Tribune reporter
9:52 AM CDT, April 18, 2008
PHOENIX - Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher disputed a report that he threatened to retire if the Bears don't reward him with more guaranteed money.
"I never said that I was going to quit,'' Urlacher told the Tribune early Friday morning. "That's just a gossip column. Reports like that is why I choose not to speak to the media.''
Urlacher, who is seeking a multi-year contract extension that would pad the nine-year, $57-million contract he signed in 2003, has not attended the Bears' on-going voluntary workouts and said he is unsure if he will attend the team's mandatory minicamp May 30-June 1 if a contract agreement is not reached. He also cited the opportunity to spend more time with his children as a reason for staying in Arizona.
He did not express plans to boycott training camp. The Bears, who sit about $16 million under the salary cap, continue to have talks with Urlacher's agents.
"They've offered me a one-year extension,'' Urlacher said. "My agents are doing a great job for me. I try to stay out of it as much as I can.''
Urlacher said he understands the Bears' hesitance to make a bigger commitment is directly related to concerns about his health. He is coming off minor neck surgery in January and continues to battle arthritis in his lower back.
"But in my mind, my neck is rehabbed and back to normal,'' Urlacher said. "My back is better now than it was at any point last season.''
Urlacher turns 30 in May, and the eight-year veteran still has a personal goal of playing at least 12 seasons.
"When I first came into the league, I said I wanted to play 10 years,'' he said. "Now, I think I can play 12 or 13. Then we will reassess then.
"I don't want to be old guy out there trying to play with these young guys and can't keep up anymore. I think I'll know when it's time for that. But I'm not close to that right now.''
Urlacher also diffused any trade talk, as the report suggested.
"Everybody knows I want to be in Chicago,'' he said. "I've said that from Day 1. I can't imagine playing anywhere else. I want to be with my teammates.
"Could I see a scenario where I wouldn't be here? It would be if they traded me. But we all know that's not going to happen."
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Bears' Urlacher: 'I never said that I was going to quit'
Linebacker disputes report that he wants a trade or will retire
By Vaughn McClure | Tribune reporter
9:52 AM CDT, April 18, 2008
PHOENIX - Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher disputed a report that he threatened to retire if the Bears don't reward him with more guaranteed money.
"I never said that I was going to quit,'' Urlacher told the Tribune early Friday morning. "That's just a gossip column. Reports like that is why I choose not to speak to the media.''
Urlacher, who is seeking a multi-year contract extension that would pad the nine-year, $57-million contract he signed in 2003, has not attended the Bears' on-going voluntary workouts and said he is unsure if he will attend the team's mandatory minicamp May 30-June 1 if a contract agreement is not reached. He also cited the opportunity to spend more time with his children as a reason for staying in Arizona.
He did not express plans to boycott training camp. The Bears, who sit about $16 million under the salary cap, continue to have talks with Urlacher's agents.
"They've offered me a one-year extension,'' Urlacher said. "My agents are doing a great job for me. I try to stay out of it as much as I can.''
Urlacher said he understands the Bears' hesitance to make a bigger commitment is directly related to concerns about his health. He is coming off minor neck surgery in January and continues to battle arthritis in his lower back.
"But in my mind, my neck is rehabbed and back to normal,'' Urlacher said. "My back is better now than it was at any point last season.''
Urlacher turns 30 in May, and the eight-year veteran still has a personal goal of playing at least 12 seasons.
"When I first came into the league, I said I wanted to play 10 years,'' he said. "Now, I think I can play 12 or 13. Then we will reassess then.
"I don't want to be old guy out there trying to play with these young guys and can't keep up anymore. I think I'll know when it's time for that. But I'm not close to that right now.''
Urlacher also diffused any trade talk, as the report suggested.
"Everybody knows I want to be in Chicago,'' he said. "I've said that from Day 1. I can't imagine playing anywhere else. I want to be with my teammates.
"Could I see a scenario where I wouldn't be here? It would be if they traded me. But we all know that's not going to happen."
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Max Power
Footballguy
Per Suntimes....
Urlacher and Briggs aren't the only ones missing. Kicker Robbie Gould, entering the final season of the bargain four-year contract he signed in 2005, hasn't checked in.
Skipping the workouts is the only leverage Gould has in pursuing a new contract after making the Pro Bowl in 2006 and being an alternate last season. The Bears have been in discussion with his agent, Brian Mackler, who declined to comment on the situation.
Gould didn't receive a signing bonus when he replaced Doug Brien in Week 5 of the 2005 season. The Bears can hang the franchise tag over his head, but there's only one of those for 2009, and if defensive tackle Tommie Harris can't work out an extension, he might wind up wearing that collar. The Bears also could apply the less-used transition tag.
Without another kicker on the roster, the Bears could look into Mike Vanderjagt. The most accurate kicker in league history had a tryout in Denver earlier this week. Vanderjagt doesn't have a strong leg for kickoffs, but neither does Gould.
Urlacher and Briggs aren't the only ones missing. Kicker Robbie Gould, entering the final season of the bargain four-year contract he signed in 2005, hasn't checked in.
Skipping the workouts is the only leverage Gould has in pursuing a new contract after making the Pro Bowl in 2006 and being an alternate last season. The Bears have been in discussion with his agent, Brian Mackler, who declined to comment on the situation.
Gould didn't receive a signing bonus when he replaced Doug Brien in Week 5 of the 2005 season. The Bears can hang the franchise tag over his head, but there's only one of those for 2009, and if defensive tackle Tommie Harris can't work out an extension, he might wind up wearing that collar. The Bears also could apply the less-used transition tag.
Without another kicker on the roster, the Bears could look into Mike Vanderjagt. The most accurate kicker in league history had a tryout in Denver earlier this week. Vanderjagt doesn't have a strong leg for kickoffs, but neither does Gould.
Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
I would do that in a heartbeat. It's sad to say, but I would.
ditka85
Footballguy
Absolutley. Move Briggs to MLB and start either Okwo or Jamar at Weak. However, no way this trade would ever happen.
RBM
Footballguy
Same here
Max Power
Footballguy
Can someone give me something to be happy about?
-Harris, Hester, Gould, Urlacher all want new contracts (Elite money for their positions)
-Briggs is unhappy with his NEW contract
-We are going to bank on Mike Brown staying healthy again
-Benson coming off an injury as well as a terrible season
-Sub par WR corps (boarderline garbage)
-aging OL with several major holes
-Only 2 Qbs on the roster (neither very good)
If JA blows thie Draft, I might lose it.
-Harris, Hester, Gould, Urlacher all want new contracts (Elite money for their positions)
-Briggs is unhappy with his NEW contract
-We are going to bank on Mike Brown staying healthy again
-Benson coming off an injury as well as a terrible season
-Sub par WR corps (boarderline garbage)
-aging OL with several major holes
-Only 2 Qbs on the roster (neither very good)
If JA blows thie Draft, I might lose it.
ditka85
Footballguy
I know it's tough, but hang in there buddy.
3nOut
Footballguy
what do you consider blowing the draft?
RBM
Footballguy
Is there a gun to the head smiley?
ditka85
Footballguy
Gotta say I'm miffed that someone would piss away a quarter of a mil like that.
Max Power
Footballguy
Not totally Sure. JA suprises every year. I'll be ok as long as 3 of the first 4 picks are on Offense. I have been saying this for about 3 years now, but I think JA tends to get too cute during the draft. I think his "genius" label has gotten to him. The Bears need to walk out of the draft with 2 OL prospects that can start/contribute this season. A top 10 RB in this year's class. And either another WR that will see the field this season or a QB of the future. It really isn't asking for a whole lot, and I think the above is the minimal I would be happy with. I'm just not 100% convinced it will happen.
Max Power
Footballguy
Nope, but this place can get depressing at times. Listening to all the other posters get excited about their teams. Getting that difference maker in the draft or a trade. Only thing to come out of Bears camp is bad news and insane propaganda. (Hester is the next Steve Smith, Grossman is better now since he was benched, Benson is a 1600 yard back if we draft a good OL) Maybe I'm just upset because it is the first real nice day of the year here and I am stuck inside.
sholditch
Footballguy
If you're a long-time Bears fan you're already used to it. If you're not a longtime fan, this would be a good time to reexamine your allegiance. There is nothing to look forward to for at least year, possibly two or three.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
sholditch
Footballguy
With his age and health issues there is no way he would bring that much in a trade. Basically you can't trade him now. And I don't really see any point in the past that they could have. The only time would have been after losing the superbowl, but the fans would have revolted. Urlacher will be a Bear for the rest of his career. If that was ever offered they should have agreed and danced a jig.
3nOut
Footballguy
I don't have a problem with the word voluntary. They don't have to show up. I believe the 250K is not a fine that is taken out of their paycheck, its a bonus. It was decided in their contract how much of a bonus they get for these voluntary workputs. I believe I read somewhere that he has to show up for 80% (or so) of his workouts to be eligible for the bonus. That means if there are 40 scheduled workout days, he can miss 6-8 days and still get his bonus. They "volunteered" for that contract so yes, this is voluntary. If they didn't want the extra cash, they could have had no bonus put in for voluntary workouts and would not lose anything financially if they didn't show up.
3nOut
Footballguy
Even though the chances are slim to none, according to other threads (rumors), Matt Ryan and/or McFadden might fall to the Bears. I doubt both do but what if one or the other does. As much as we need OL help, would you prefer the Bears take one of these two? What if they both do? Would you prefer Ryan or McFadden, or would you still take the best available OL on the board?
Max Power
Footballguy
I'm probably one of the few who will be excited by this news...
LAKE FOREST, Ill. – Restricted free-agent wide receiver Rashied Davis will return for a fourth season with the Bears after signing his one-year tender offer Friday afternoon at Halas Hall.
Davis originally joined the Bears as a free agent in 2005 after spending four seasons with the San Jose SaberCats in the Arena Football League. The 5-9, 187-pounder switched to receiver in 2006 after playing cornerback as a rookie and caught 22 passes for 303 yards and 2 touchdowns.
LAKE FOREST, Ill. – Restricted free-agent wide receiver Rashied Davis will return for a fourth season with the Bears after signing his one-year tender offer Friday afternoon at Halas Hall.
Davis originally joined the Bears as a free agent in 2005 after spending four seasons with the San Jose SaberCats in the Arena Football League. The 5-9, 187-pounder switched to receiver in 2006 after playing cornerback as a rookie and caught 22 passes for 303 yards and 2 touchdowns.
Max Power
Footballguy
Glad you bring this up. Depending which OL prospects are left, My personal feeling is no to McFadden and yes to Ryan. The No on McFadden is just due to the depth at the position. I really feel like there will be several solid RB options at the 70th overall pick. Plus how good would any RB be if we don't improve the OL?The only way I think Ryan should be taken is if Both Claddy and Albert are off the board. I'm not a big fan of Otah or Williams. One is said to "play lazy" and the other lacks strength. those are thing I don't want to hear when spending a high pick on a prospect. So at this point I think the team would get more talent grabing Ryan in rd1 and maybe (hopefully) a OT Sam Baker in RD2 as opposed to a Otah/Williams and Flacco/Henne combo.
A 7th rounder maybe. Can you imagine how he'd disappear in NE's defensive scheme?
Max Power
Footballguy
the latest from Lovie...
No mention of RB until asked by the media
Seeing this makes me pretty sure the Bears don't take a RB until Rd3.ETA: I'm still rooting for the Bears to bring in Kevin Jones. I think he would be a nice 1-2 punch with Ced. It would also let the Bears grab another OL,QB or WR early. However I don't think it is very likely. What team would want 2 RBs coming off major injuries to start a season?
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flapgreen
Footballguy
This would make too much sense
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
My thoughts on the Bears draft.
They must, MUST draft three offensive lineman in the first three rounds(four picks).
If Brandon Albert is there, take him at 14.
Then follow that with a OT in the second round. Anthony Collins? Sam Baker?
Then a RB with the first third round pick. Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte, Kevin Smith, etc.
Then another OT with the last third round pick. Tony Hills?
If Albert is gone and Chris Williams is available(with Otah gone).
Take Williams at 14.
Then trade up, trade the second round pick and the last third round pick...to get Ghosder Cherilus.
Then with the only third round pick now, take the Best Rb avail. Charles, Forte, Smith.
If Otah is available. Take Otah at 14.
Chilo Rachal in the second round.
Top RB available with the first third round pick.
Then take the best available OT with the last third round pick. Tony Hills.
They must, MUST draft three offensive lineman in the first three rounds(four picks).
If Brandon Albert is there, take him at 14.
Then follow that with a OT in the second round. Anthony Collins? Sam Baker?
Then a RB with the first third round pick. Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte, Kevin Smith, etc.
Then another OT with the last third round pick. Tony Hills?
If Albert is gone and Chris Williams is available(with Otah gone).
Take Williams at 14.
Then trade up, trade the second round pick and the last third round pick...to get Ghosder Cherilus.
Then with the only third round pick now, take the Best Rb avail. Charles, Forte, Smith.
If Otah is available. Take Otah at 14.
Chilo Rachal in the second round.
Top RB available with the first third round pick.
Then take the best available OT with the last third round pick. Tony Hills.
Smoking a 12lb pork shoulder. I love draft day...
nittanylion
Footballguy
So, Bears fans, let's talk for a post or two about your OWN Adrian Peterson. I'm inclined to believe the Bears won't take a RB until Day 2 this year, if at all...
...assuming we're correct, I'd enjoy some educated speculation on 'Adrian the First', and his projected workload, etc.
FIFTY catches last year - nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of points for a RB in PPR Format, you can get at a flea market price and plug in as a flex option when the bye weeks get ya down...IF he can muster those #'s again...or possibly see significant work over all 16 Games...
Drop some knowledge on me, Bear Oracle. I'll hang up and listen.
...assuming we're correct, I'd enjoy some educated speculation on 'Adrian the First', and his projected workload, etc.
FIFTY catches last year - nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of points for a RB in PPR Format, you can get at a flea market price and plug in as a flex option when the bye weeks get ya down...IF he can muster those #'s again...or possibly see significant work over all 16 Games...
Drop some knowledge on me, Bear Oracle. I'll hang up and listen.
ditka85
Footballguy
I doubt Adrian gets 50 catches again. I anticipate Wolfe getting in on 3rd down more.
flapgreen
Footballguy
If they draft a RB, I'd guess that Wolfe would be gone. His value seems low in the NFL.
sholditch
Footballguy
My feeling on Peterson is that he isn't going to be consistent enough to where you would want to start him, even at a flex. If he's the featured back, which is entirely possible, I think he could eek out a few good games but that line will kill him. If it's the last round and you've got all your starters, maybe.
As for the McFadden, Ryan thing, I would rather them take Otah, but having McFadden fall to you at 14 would be too good to resist. Personally, I think Ryan is no better than his closest competition, and they're all projected to the second round. But if they did take McFadden they would have to trade up to get some OL picks. And they'd have to draft for OL the rest of the draft. I personally don't see the reason for all the gloom and doom about McFadden. All the scouts have him rated no. 1, and he'll be fine. Anyway, there's no way that happens. He'd never make it past Denver at the latest.
As for the McFadden, Ryan thing, I would rather them take Otah, but having McFadden fall to you at 14 would be too good to resist. Personally, I think Ryan is no better than his closest competition, and they're all projected to the second round. But if they did take McFadden they would have to trade up to get some OL picks. And they'd have to draft for OL the rest of the draft. I personally don't see the reason for all the gloom and doom about McFadden. All the scouts have him rated no. 1, and he'll be fine. Anyway, there's no way that happens. He'd never make it past Denver at the latest.
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RBM
Footballguy
Where is he goin? He was a 3rd round pick just last year. Way too early to just admit failure with that one.I think he has his place, just have to really pick your spots with him.
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ditka85
Footballguy
I don't think Angelo is ready to eat crow on Wolfe just yet. He's pretty stubborn when it comes to cutting 1st day picks.
Peterson's going to be the 3rd string RB again, and will play a prominent role on special teams. The Bears will draft a RB (obviously) in the first 3 rounds, and he'll complement Benson. Wolfe will get his 3rd down touches, and an occasional hand-off so I think we're going to see a committee handling the duties for the Bears next season.
