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Going back to 1999, the average 40 time of 1st/2nd round draft pick WRs is 4.46. There are alot of "speedster" WRs in there that have never amounted to anything.
From your post in another thread:
How many of these guys had 4.5 speed are better? I'd take Crabtree #2 only behind C. Johnson looking at the last three drafts.
Agree 110% which is why I don't understand the "so call" knock on Crabtree's 40 time. The guys simply makes plays.
My point in this thread was that the slow as mule types probably are not going to make it in the NFL. Certainly the obsession with speed will get some guys hyped and drafted but it's tough to make it on speed alone (just ask the Patriots who ended up with several of the fast guys from recent years that did close to nothing). Teams will give guys with 4.3 speed a shot but not too many with 4.8.As for the faster guys that couldn't cut it in the NFL as WR, I wonder why they were not converted to defensive backs.
LOL, thanks.
Gotcha
Maybe running backwards is a lot different than running forwards?
This is actually a very good point. Why don't they have a backpeddle 20yd time? At least a 10yd time would seem relevant. Maybe starting backpeddle for 10yds, then turn and run upfield to complete the 40yds for an overall time.Maybe running backwards is a lot different than running forwards?
Since we are in the business of trying to predict future fantasy success, I think the solution to this is to make a list of all top 10 WR's for the last 10 years, then make a list of the top 20 WR's that never made it into the top 10 for the same period, and then maybe even a list of the top 30 that never made it into the top 20 or top 10. You could also make a similar list for each teams' top 2 producing WR's for each year over that same period to account for more terrestrial or grounded offenses. Then you go back and look up their combine 40 times and maybe also some cone times. Maybe cross reference that with verticals and height.I'm going to guess that 40 times are all over the place between 4.45 and 4.70. That should tell is if 40 times at the combine correlate to future fantasy relevance with any kind of reliability. It might also tell us if there is a cap to how high a slow WR can climb.I'm more than a little curious to see if there's a better correlation between the combine measurements that would parallel coming out of breaks at speed than the with straightline 40 times.I get so pissed when all the rookie draft mags list the 40 time alone and no other measurements.
I spent some brief time looking up teams that drafted alot of WRs. I didn't finish my research but it was clearly going toward the fact that NFL teams simply draft too many WRs. Also was noticing CBs too. They are flat out obsessed with height or speed or "good hands" etc and ignore fullbacks, OL, and even K or P. At the time I noticed (like everyone else) that next to no one drafts a FB. C and G largely go undrafted same with K and P. It's really an odd sorta naive or inexperienced(drafting) fascination that NFL teams have. I figure most FFers would draft the 2nd best FB or 4th best G before the 40th best WR. But just when I'm about to "get on" some NFL GMs for drafting too many, there's a guy like Housh or Colston going late in the draft and doing well.
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I will add this: When was the last time anyone saw a WR running a pattern in shorts and a shirt? When was the last time anyone saw a WR lineup in a 3 point stance on the field? Who cares what they do running 40 yards straight ahead with no one on them in shorts. All it does is cause some idiot GM to take Troy Williamson in the 1st round.
