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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (9 Viewers)

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Costco is cheaper?
My last three trips to the store I am usure if I looked at any prices. need this and this and this and this. I am not going to stress over 50-100 bucks. I get that there are people who certainly do rightfully stress. I wouldn't guess that the average Costco shopper is anything but middle class +

 
Also - I am eating a bunch of edibles. Like a lot. My wife too. We may go through our supply ina 2 weeks at this rate.

Stupid Minnesota. Anyone want to hook a brother up?

 
Costco fans regularly wait in line behind 20 cars to save a couple bucks on gas. They have nothing but time on their hands. Willing to wait in the most ridiculous lines for anything. 

 
Bought two cases of wine yesterday.  I already have a stocked bar and since I am am a serious homebrewer I am good to go for beer (9 taps with full kegs, another 6 waiting to be tapped, probably 7 or 8 cases of commercial beer and over 300 lbs of grain to brew more).  I may not have enough TP and sanitizer but my alcohol supply will last me months.  :banned:
just wanted to say this sounds pretty dern epic & also to say great job :thumbup: it just reads like a beacon of awesomeness and positivity cheers brother

 
We mirror the daily rate change.
But not the death rate. When they had 2200 cases they had 80 deaths. When we were at 2200 we had 49 deaths. And we had that disaster in Washington included in that.

I think. I very well could be wrong here. Just trying to understand.

 
Getting nervous. Long on supplies except booze. There’s local delivery, but they require you open the door and sign their phone. Family hasn’t been within 10 feet of another human in a week. What to do? The siren call of booze.
I just did a major re-supply on booze. We can probably work something out. You have any AR-15s or hand grenades? You can leave them on the porch when you pick up your handle of Titos

 
My last three trips to the store I am usure if I looked at any prices. need this and this and this and this. I am not going to stress over 50-100 bucks. I get that there are people who certainly do rightfully stress. I wouldn't guess that the average Costco shopper is anything but middle class +
Not in some areas. People poor or on fixed income are still needing reasonable prices for their families. They'll go there first before regular stores.

 
So, I have a family member who began to show symptoms on Tuesday, and was confirmed to have it yesterday. They have been quartined. He will be fine, but a scan from Tuesday to Friday shows signifant lung scarring. They will have another scan Tuesday. They have two family members who were tested, and then told to self quarantine in seperate locations. This is the part that blows my mind. They could have it and are getting parted out to other areas, and could possibly spread it.

I voted a 6 in the other thread. In the last 24 hrs my work and kids school are closed for 2 weeks, grocery store had nothing, and family member is diagnosed. This is rapid.

 
So, I have a family member who began to show symptoms on Tuesday, and was confirmed to have it yesterday. They have been quartined. He will be fine, but a scan from Tuesday to Friday shows signifant lung scarring. They will have another scan Tuesday. They have two family members who were tested, and then told to self quarantine in seperate locations. This is the part that blows my mind. They could have it and are getting parted out to other areas, and could possibly spread it.

I voted a 6 in the other thread. In the last 24 hrs my work and kids school are closed for 2 weeks, grocery store had nothing, and family member is diagnosed. This is rapid.
Damn dude. Big hugs

 
So, I have a family member who began to show symptoms on Tuesday, and was confirmed to have it yesterday. They have been quartined. He will be fine, but a scan from Tuesday to Friday shows signifant lung scarring. They will have another scan Tuesday. They have two family members who were tested, and then told to self quarantine in seperate locations. This is the part that blows my mind. They could have it and are getting parted out to other areas, and could possibly spread it.

I voted a 6 in the other thread. In the last 24 hrs my work and kids school are closed for 2 weeks, grocery store had nothing, and family member is diagnosed. This is rapid.
Sorry to hear that. I hope they are OK. T’s and P’s.

 
Holy ####. On LivePd they cut to a paramedic who said that New Orleans has 53 presumptive cases, many of them waiting on CDC.

 
But not the death rate. When they had 2200 cases they had 80 deaths. When we were at 2200 we had 49 deaths. And we had that disaster in Washington included in that.

I think. I very well could be wrong here. Just trying to understand.
Interesting.  I'd think that's due to Italy having an older population?

I don't think we see italy level fatalities here.  I also don't think we are South Korea either.  I think we end up somewhere  in between.  It will be interesting to watch Spain, France, Germany, and England.

 
1st case in Wayne County (Detroit and then some) confirmed with the disease despite no travel and no known contact. Got  it in the community!

 
What's the point of shutting down sports, broadway and schools if people are still taking mass transit to work, and going to bars, restaurants etc.  It seems like a pr move to say we tried, while trying to save the stock market.  Just shut it all down.  Worst case scenario, we overreacted.  It doesn't seem like "wait and see" is a good course of action.  

Shut it all down.

 
What's the point of shutting down sports, broadway and schools if people are still taking mass transit to work, and going to bars, restaurants etc.  It seems like a pr move to say we tried, while trying to save the stock market.  Just shut it all down.  Worst case scenario, we overreacted.  It doesn't seem like "wait and see" is a good course of action.  

Shut it all down.
The point is some organizations understand. A lot do not. I agree though, shut it all down

 
Holy ####. On LivePd they cut to a paramedic who said that New Orleans has 53 presumptive cases, many of them waiting on CDC.
We have our own version of the Kirkland, WA long-term care center: Lambeth House in New Orleans.

The tally of elderly residents reported positive for coronavirus reached nine at the Lambeth House retirement home in Uptown New Orleans on Friday, more than doubling over a day even as test results on more than a dozen other residents awaited.

 
Right now we have 2800 cases and 58 deaths. 650 of the cases and 40 deaths are in Washington. If we remove Washington so we can see how the rest of the country is going, we have 2150 cases and 18 deaths. That’s a 0.8% death rate.

I think we can ALL agree that our reported cases is WAY low since we aren’t doing much testing. It’s safe to assume our death rate outside of Washington is much lower than even 0.8%.

 
What's the point of shutting down sports, broadway and schools if people are still taking mass transit to work, and going to bars, restaurants etc.  It seems like a pr move to say we tried, while trying to save the stock market.  Just shut it all down.  Worst case scenario, we overreacted.  It doesn't seem like "wait and see" is a good course of action.  

Shut it all down.
I’m sorry but that’s crazy. 
Everyone seems to hate comparing this to the flu. And I’m really not here. But over 30k people a year die from the flu. We could GREATLY reduce that if we shut down sports and restaurants. Is that number OK? 30k people dying from something we could have prevented? What kind of society are we?

 
Right now we have 2800 cases and 58 deaths. 650 of the cases and 40 deaths are in Washington. If we remove Washington so we can see how the rest of the country is going, we have 2150 cases and 18 deaths. That’s a 0.8% death rate.

I think we can ALL agree that our reported cases is WAY low since we aren’t doing much testing. It’s safe to assume our death rate outside of Washington is much lower than even 0.8%.
How much lower? Even at 0.1% if the number infected rises quickly, the US will see a lot of death from this. The strain on the health care system will be massive.

 
Right now we have 2800 cases and 58 deaths. 650 of the cases and 40 deaths are in Washington. If we remove Washington so we can see how the rest of the country is going, we have 2150 cases and 18 deaths. That’s a 0.8% death rate.

I think we can ALL agree that our reported cases is WAY low since we aren’t doing much testing. It’s safe to assume our death rate outside of Washington is much lower than even 0.8%.
I don't know what the death rate is, but I don't think you can extrapolate only the denominator (cases), without assuming with time more than 18 of the 2150 will also die (the base rate will be higher than 0.8% from the 2150).

 
Just want to make sure I have the numbers right. Outside of Washington state where we had the nursing home incident, there have been 18 deaths in the US? 
 

I would love to know the real death rate in the US. More testing would be great to determine that.
Nyc has a 0.3% death rate. That's flu levels and its probably even lower than that. As long as we can flatten the curve, with our health system I think we'll beat this. 

 
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I'm not comfortable with my 75 yo mom alone in the Seattle area. Seems 1 homeless guy with cv 10 min from her in that motel turned cv center left and is out there. With the possibility of domestic travel restrictions especially CA and WA with who knows what's to come up there in her area, hope she gets a ticket here.
Well, mom says they are telling people over 60 there not to travel even if healthy so she's staying put.

 
Right now we have 2800 cases and 58 deaths. 650 of the cases and 40 deaths are in Washington. If we remove Washington so we can see how the rest of the country is going, we have 2150 cases and 18 deaths. That’s a 0.8% death rate.

I think we can ALL agree that our reported cases is WAY low since we aren’t doing much testing. It’s safe to assume our death rate outside of Washington is much lower than even 0.8%.
First paragraph: i agree.  I think 0.8 -1% is what we should expect with proper health care - i.e. the hospitals and ICU are not overrun.

Second paragraph: Not necessarily.  There is a delay between reported cases and deaths.  We are still early in this thing... unfortunately many of those who caught it just havent't died...yet.

 
I don't know what the death rate is, but I don't think you can extrapolate only the denominator (cases), without assuming with time more than 18 of the 2150 will also die (the base rate will be higher than 0.8% from the 2150).
Fair enough. But that’s the known info right now. And I’m sure you agree that since we aren’t doing much testing the denominator is much much lower than it should be.

 
Right now we have 2800 cases and 58 deaths. 650 of the cases and 40 deaths are in Washington. If we remove Washington so we can see how the rest of the country is going, we have 2150 cases and 18 deaths. That’s a 0.8% death rate.

I think we can ALL agree that our reported cases is WAY low since we aren’t doing much testing. It’s safe to assume our death rate outside of Washington is much lower than even 0.8%.
Typically takes 2 weeks after symptoms to be a serious case and 3 weeks for death. It is way to early to know where we come out on mortality rate.

I think the rate with proper care is around 1% but if hospitals are swamped and can’t do proper care you end up with Italy and Wuhan situation  with death rate around 5 percent. This is why some folks just want to shut it down. I agree with that view to be honest. 

 
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