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Statistically probably not a bad idea. If we could control exposure and purposely expose people in waves to limit the strain on hospitals, it would probably be more effective than what we're doing, since we blew it on early testing.
Excellent read ... gives the straight dope re: aerosol transmission. Also explains what “airborne transmission” really is and what happens when viruses really go airborne (R0 figures in the teens).
From what I read a few days ago you don't build immunity to it like other infectious diseases. Hopefully that has changed and I'm wrong about that.
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I was going to accuse you of making a bad analogy, but it's actually a pretty good metaphor for our current situation.
i get it if you're planning for intermittent outages.
March 4th: In an interview with Sean Hannity, Trump calls the WHO’s estimate of the global death rate “false,” describes the coronavirus as “very mild,” and suggests that those infected can get better by “sitting around” and “going to work.
There's no proof that any of those things will prevent the spread. This is why I called those things super paranoid. Washing hands, covering mouth, etc are proven and similar to wearing seatbelts.
I told my brother to use gloves when handling mail and to not let my dad touch it. Dishwashing gloves work too assuming people haven't realised that and emptied the shelves. I hold mail with a paper towel and once I'm done it's hand washing time.
What do you do if your neighbor tosses you a stack of 100s for rent that he just counted out while licking his thumb?
We wipe down the food packaging with disinfectant wipes and spray the mail with lysol. And then wash hands after handling. Like Big League Chew, our son has asthma so we are being extra careful.
Yes. With literally zero doubt they are risky to some degree. However, two key questions:
This article pretty clearly seems to suggest the risk of getting this from packaging or something picked up from a store is incredibly low. Lots of quotes throughout. Here's one:
spray the bills with Lysol and hang to dry.
Friend in NYC was tested Thursday & told the same thing, 5-7 days. You got pull or making bank, 6 hours.
We're having our groceries delivered, so our concern is the individuals who have handled the items from collection at the store through delivery at our door. But again, we are being extra cautious because of our son.
Unfortunately, many CPAP users don't have the luxury of riding things out: we could choke to death without it. I do have a gas powered generator with a few cans of gas, but I'm talking about ordering one of those camping/emergency generators that doesn't use gas. The one I'm looking at even charges using a solar panel.
NY or NYC? You mentioned that it's been a ghost town for weeks. NYC has not been a ghost town for weeks. People have been all over outside by all accounts.
There is risk in everything. There is risk in sitting at my computer; the tree outside could fall and crush this spot. If we start to fixate on eliminating extraordinarily low risks, we might go mad. So, of course, the more I interact with other people, the more likelihood of transmission. But I'm following all of the guidelines I've been given from the government, I'm in essence on lockdown, but for the few times I leave the house either for a walk or bike ride around town with my family for fresh air (allowed, even encouraged, as I understand it) or to stop at a store for something, in which case it's pretty limited, a quick stop, and I try not to touch anything, and I stay distanced from everyone, just as I've been told.
Well said. People should basically assume they have it and act accordingly. Given the asymptomatic nature of many of those infected and the lack of universal testing we don’t have much choice.
I disagree based on what I see outside my window every day. Most people seem to be listening and doing a pretty good job. There are some who aren't. But most are.
I wasn’t blaming anyone, just making an observation about diseases of affluence. Genetics clearly play a big role in disease.
I believe it's foolish to consider this an "extraordinarily low risk" - if you want to say on a errand by errand basis, the risk is extremely low, i'd suggest the chance of crashing a car when you are a bit drunk (not wasted) on a trip by trip basis is actually pretty darned low. But tempt fate enough, that is a heightened risk. I think the same applies here.
I think your first mistake may be using the government as your source of information/tips
Understood, and folks should do whatever makes them comfortable. This conversation started with people killing a poster who went to a store for food. Which seemed unreasonable to me. I also was asking the questions about wiping down packages to understand whether it's something that other of us need to be doing, because we haven't been (because I haven't seen any authority suggesting we should).
Since deaths tend to happen 2 weeks after symptoms I hope that rate of infections and deaths peak very soon. We can learn if these lockdowns do any good from what happens in Italy.
What's your basis for that? There's an article linked above with a doctor in essence saying exactly that.
That's kind of where I'm trying to be. Sometimes difficult to figure out where "sensible" is at any given time.
I hope so with all of my hope. I work in Nassau county (Great Neck) and while I haven’t been there in 3 weeks I am very glad to hear that.
They’re also on my sh!tlist.
Nobody killed anybody. Somebody suggested that going to bagel shop for "a" bagel and coffee was ill-advised. Which it is, given the gravity and threat of this contagion. Especially, if living in NYC given recent data and reports from doctors.
The general population isn’t going to hole up in their homes for 3 weeks. I think the idea that they are going to do this is naive.
