*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (14 Viewers)

[JAA]

I think we need a selfie with today's newspaper to know this is real

I thought it was 2 pennies?  Sorry - my notebook may be out of date

 

[JAA]

752 death toll in NY for last 24 hours.  Think we are going to see this plateau for the week and then hopefully start to trend down next week.  Numbers will be brutal by the end of this in NY.  

I agree with this.  Im starting to think NY (NYC at least) has peaked.  Maybe 10-14 more days.

 

[JAA]

However even better is I think if you just qualify say 197999 for married with 0 kids.

Your AGI goes up for 1 kid so you need to be under 207000 married with 1 kid

If that makes sense.

I think

What is my AGI limit with wife and 3 kids?

 

[guru_007]

What is my AGI limit with wife and 3 kids?

https://turbotax.intuit.com/stimulus-check/

 

[tangfoot]

a simple test that has the league's employees ##### themselves

If they keep doing that, they'll go blind

 

[CurlyNight]

Would be nice!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/americans-would-receive-2000-a-month-under-house-democrats-plan-2020-4%3famp

 

[JAA]

They use direct deposit info if on file from any tax return info. It just magically appears. No paperwork

I usually pay - what happens then?

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

752 death toll in NY for last 24 hours.  Think we are going to see this plateau for the week and then hopefully start to trend down next week.  Numbers will be brutal by the end of this in NY.  

If today is the peak, and we really get down to 0 deaths by May 15th like the IHME model predicts, it will be both a miracle (to get to 0) and the worst tragedy of a generation or more, as we can basically take today's total deaths cumulative to date and effectively double it before we get down to 0 (to account for the deaths on the way down to 0).

 

[mr roboto]

Did you fill out any paperwork?  Did the money just appear?  How did they get your bank information?

Appeared. IRS. From my direct deposit info they had on file. No paperwork. 

 

[the moops]

I usually pay - what happens then?

You need to go HERE and check on the status of any payment. You can enter direct deposit info somewhere in there

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Would be nice!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/americans-would-receive-2000-a-month-under-house-democrats-plan-2020-4%3famp

Not to complain, but these means testing cutoffs are BS. 

 

[Kal El]

So you're stimulating your savings, not the economy?  

Oh, I'm definitely stimulating myself. 

I'm buying some stuff with it, so I'm helping the economy, too.

 

[Roy L Fewks]

I, for one, am on the edge of my seat with all this stimulus check talk.

 

[mr roboto]

I need a driveway redone and it wasn’t going to be a top priority but I would imagine that concrete workers should be able to work during this period of time right?

 

[Redwes25]

If today is the peak, and we really get down to 0 deaths by May 15th like the IHME model predicts, it will be both a miracle (to get to 0) and the worst tragedy of a generation or more, as we can basically take today's total deaths cumulative to date and effectively double it before we get down to 0 (to account for the deaths on the way down to 0).

I think that model is garbage.  It predicted the peak deaths in NYC five days ago with a pretty quick decline.  That is not what is happening nor what happened in places that are ahead of us on Curve (Italy, Spain, China, etc...)

 

[belljr]

I need a driveway redone and it wasn’t going to be a top priority but I would imagine that concrete workers should be able to work during this period of time right?

Depends on state and area tbh

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

I think that model is garbage.  It predicted the peak deaths in NYC five days ago with a pretty quick decline.  That is not what is happening nor what happened in places that are ahead of us on Curve (Italy, Spain, China, etc...)

Tend to agree. Would like to see how it reflects the last several days worth of data and the future projections. The steep decline wasn't seen in those places, as you point out. Doubling the current number would have around 22K passed away, current model reflects around 14K. 

Bottom line is the plateau is not really anything to point to in terms of "re-opening". Really need to see steep declines before any of those thoughts can be even considered.

 

[That one guy]

I, for one, am on the edge of my seat with all this stimulus check talk.

Is this seat made of gold and/or precious metals?  If so, you probably won’t be getting a stimulus check because you’re Platinum FBG

 

[the moops]

Maybe you can spell the names of these massive companies using only emojis and we can try and guess?

 

[parasaurolophus]

I thought it was 2 pennies?  Sorry - my notebook may be out of date

New Picture for the doubters. 

No rolls of Toilet paper were harmed during this photo shoot. 

 

[the moops]

so nerdy. love it

 

[shader]

Tend to agree. Would like to see how it reflects the last several days worth of data and the future projections. The steep decline wasn't seen in those places, as you point out. Doubling the current number would have around 22K passed away, current model reflects around 14K. 

Bottom line is the plateau is not really anything to point to in terms of "re-opening". Really need to see steep declines before any of those thoughts can be even considered.

The first thing that has to happen before you re-open is that you actually have to get to a plateau in terms of active cases.  The USA isn't close to a plateau.

Click on any country in Worldometers and look at the active cases chart.  Start with South Korea.  You can see their active cases plateau and then go down.

Italy and Spain are just now plateauing.

We know active cases isn't super precise, but it's all the data we have.  If it's not precise enough, states need to make it precise.  Because THAT is the most important stat that's out there in terms of figuring out when to re-open.  

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Good thread on online grocery, ecommerce, logistics issues:

https://twitter.com/pradeep24/status/1250479128731693056?s=21

 

[msommer]

The first thing that has to happen before you re-open is that you actually have to get to a plateau in terms of active cases.  The USA isn't close to a plateau.

Click on any country in Worldometers and look at the active cases chart.  Start with South Korea.  You can see their active cases plateau and then go down.

Italy and Spain are just now plateauing.

We know active cases isn't super precise, but it's all the data we have.  If it's not precise enough, states need to make it precise.  Because THAT is the most important stat that's out there in terms of figuring out when to re-open.  

IMHO you need a plateau of hospitalizations, and that plateau has to be lower than your capacity by a certain margin so you won't be swamped if you open up too much. This is the way I see the European countries go about it. What you open is also interesting and here the European countries differ a lot

 

[the moops]

My stupid back's website is still crashed. Yay for me for choosing a small local credit union!

And after all the waiting and trying to log on, the money isn't actually in my account

 

[beer 30]

The retail sector is beginning to crash. I don't want to speak out of school, so I can't mention names, but two massive companies, names you would all know, are swirling the drain and can't find investors. I'm currently negotiating "terms of surrender" with these companies, both of whom have 7 figure balances on arrears with the company I work for. It's getting ugly fast out there. If this co tinues for several more months, as it appears will be necessary, expect many of the places you eat/stay/shop at to no longer exist. 

Not saying we should be doing anything differently, just stating sad facts. 

Some of the names I heard that are going to struggle coming out of this are Macy's, Kohl's and GAP. Just nod if I'm close

 

[Redwes25]

Tend to agree. Would like to see how it reflects the last several days worth of data and the future projections. The steep decline wasn't seen in those places, as you point out. Doubling the current number would have around 22K passed away, current model reflects around 14K. 

Bottom line is the plateau is not really anything to point to in terms of "re-opening". Really need to see steep declines before any of those thoughts can be even considered.

I would hope policy makers are aware of these flaws if a couple of guys on a fantasy football message board can figure it out.

 

[Doug B]

Some of the names I heard that are going to struggle coming out of this are Macy's, Kohl's and GAP. Just nod if I'm close

Anything with a lot of presence in malls has to be getting waylaid now. Ironically, (indoor) malls are among the places in which it's easiest to enforce social distancing in ways to make retail shopping pretty safe.

 

[Statorama]

Some of the names I heard that are going to struggle coming out of this are Macy's, Kohl's and GAP. Just nod if I'm close

Always thought it was a bad move for Kohl's to close their grocery stores.  Thought they'd move to a hybrid model like Super Target (and they'd be open for business today if they did).

Kohl's has a pretty good online presence (and a zillionaire owner), so they should be fine if this doesn't drag on much longer.  Macy's was holding on for dear life even when the economy was roaring.

 

[Redwes25]

The retail sector is beginning to crash. I don't want to speak out of school, so I can't mention names, but two massive companies, names you would all know, are swirling the drain and can't find investors. I'm currently negotiating "terms of surrender" with these companies, both of whom have 7 figure balances on arrears with the company I work for. It's getting ugly fast out there. If this co tinues for several more months, as it appears will be necessary, expect many of the places you eat/stay/shop at to no longer exist. 

Not saying we should be doing anything differently, just stating sad facts. 

Retail sector has been struggling for awhile.  This will be the nail in the coffin for a few large companies but not sure they would have survived anyway (JCP is a prime example).  

 

[Doug B]

Good thread on online grocery, ecommerce, logistics issues:

https://twitter.com/pradeep24/status/1250479128731693056?s=21

Will be interesting to see if more small-ish to mid-size cities start having large "grocery warehouses" to support ecommerce-based household food-purchasing solutions. Such warehouses could even support in-person shopping, albeit in a semi-inconvenient Service-Merchandise-type model.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

I would hope policy makers are aware of these flaws if a couple of guys on a fantasy football message board can figure it out.

well, I mean, we are kind of bad###es here so...

 

[Doug B]

My stupid back's website is still crashed. Yay for me for choosing a small local credit union!

And after all the waiting and trying to log on, the money isn't actually in my account

It'll get there -- the first people were getting theirs this past Saturday. Just working its way around, it looks like.

 

[The Commish]

Wife got her results back...."inconclusive"...they want to test her again.  Unbelievable

She's told them no and will wait for the antibody test to be available.  She's back on her feet and back to normal for the most part.  None of the rest of us have had any issues, so we will continue to do what we're doing.  Only now we can are including her as part of the family again.  I'll do the shopping and the rest stay home.  This has been quite the rollercoaster.  

 

[Morton Muffley]

I would hope policy makers are aware of these flaws if a couple of guys on a fantasy football message board can figure it out.

Umm...check out ANY of the first 150 pages in this thread and compare the general consensus opinion there to that of our policymakers at the time and I think you'll understand the concern

 

[beer 30]

Wife got her results back...."inconclusive"...they want to test her again.  Unbelievable

She's told them no and will wait for the antibody test to be available.  She's back on her feet and back to normal for the most part.  None of the rest of us have had any issues, so we will continue to do what we're doing.  I'll do the shopping and the rest stay home.  This has been quite the rollercoaster.  

It's a gosh darn Greek tragedy. This far in, how long did you wait? A week? Two?

 

[CurlyNight]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1250502929871749120

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Wife got her results back...."inconclusive"...they want to test her again.  Unbelievable

She's told them no and will wait for the antibody test to be available.  She's back on her feet and back to normal for the most part.  None of the rest of us have had any issues, so we will continue to do what we're doing.  Only now we can are including her as part of the family again.  I'll do the shopping and the rest stay home.  This has been quite the rollercoaster.  

mannn, that's frustrating! I wonder if that means they messed up the test somehow?

anyway, glad she's better  

 

[The Commish]

It's a gosh darn Greek tragedy. This far in, how long did you wait? A week? Two?

Would be two weeks tomorrow that she started feeling the symptoms.  So, this weekend would be two weeks for the actual test.

 

[the moops]

Umm...check out ANY of the first 150 pages in this thread and compare the general consensus opinion there to that of our policymakers at the time and I think you'll understand the concern

First page has a "but the flu kills way more", so there is that

 

[Redwes25]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1250502929871749120

Wonder if the next edition of the Stand will be modified/updated for the TP contingency.  

 

[The Commish]

mannn, that's frustrating! I wonder if that means they messed up the test somehow?

anyway, glad she's better  

Has to be that.  It's a standard PCR test.  You can't "kinda have the virus".  The only other option is the sample went bad while it was sitting, waiting to be processed.  That might be more likely.

 

[Doug B]

Anyone remember how to see the number of posts people have in this thread? I am hoping that will help me find my first post in this thread.

 

[CurlyNight]

Newsom 

$125 mil individual and household package to help our frontline workers be able to do their jobs, like paid childcare. 

 

[CurlyNight]

Wonder if the next edition of the Stand will be modified/updated for the TP contingency.  

My favourite book of his.

 

[thecatch]

Some of the names I heard that are going to struggle coming out of this are Macy's, Kohl's and GAP. Just nod if I'm close

Best Buy's suppliers were actively preparing for its bankruptcy back in the 2010-13 range.  The stock subsequently caught fire, but they just announced furloughs and I suspect they'll be in trouble again.

 

[msommer]

Has to be that.  It's a standard PCR test.  You can't "kinda have the virus".

I've read somewhere that each test is actually two tests (because of the false negatives) so it might be they got a positive and a negative result

 

[The Commish]

Anyone remember how to see the number of posts people have in this thread? I am hoping that will help me find my first post in this thread.

I think that went away with the board upgrade.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Anyone remember how to see the number of posts people have in this thread? I am hoping that will help me find my first post in this thread.

I was thinking that feature went away with the last big board upgrade. If there's away to do it now, I haven't been able to find it, and I've tried. 

 

[nirad3]

Best Buy's suppliers were actively preparing for its bankruptcy back in the 2010-13 range.  The stock subsequently caught fire, but they just announced furloughs and I suspect they'll be in trouble again.

How they survived while Circuit City (basically the same store, no?) died always befuddled me.  I'd be surprised if Best Buy makes it through.