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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (17 Viewers)
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The Commish
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Im pretty sure you learned this from a link i provided you. Either that or its a weird coincidence that after pages of nonsense you came in with this realization from somwhere else at the same time i went over it in these threads
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
It was a Lex Fridman podcast a while ago. Who he has talking to dropped mad knowledge. Go look.
IC FBGCav
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IC FBGCav
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The Commish
Footballguy
Not really. Ive never seen that to be the case here, but i guess its possible. Though in this case, its the exact same info sooooo.....
The Commish
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IC FBGCav
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gianmarco
Footballguy
This shtick of popping in here occasionally, posting the same short rhetorical questions or statements or links to items that don't say what you think they say as if you are more in the know than others here is getting old and tired.
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Footballguy
The most common category of users on my ignore list is Cowboys fans who troll the Eagles thread. The second most common is people who troll this thread.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
What is getting old is you. You all pimp crap that wasn't true, keep changing the goal post. Its a frigging disgrace. I said time will tell. Time is more and more coming to....the truth.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Sorry that I can't talk everyday. I got something called a job. If you are fortunate enough to have a job that let's focus on this thread. More power to you. I remember those days.
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Penguin
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Dezbelief
Footballguy
Doug B said:
The local news reported a NIH study, that has not been peer reviewed, suggests Moderna boosters for everyone regardless of which vaccine they first received.Dragons said:
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
From your perspective, what “truth” had emerged? What specifically should posters be ashamed of?
The Commish
Footballguy
Not sure what you mean here. Learn what? It's rather simple. Things exist that we don't know exist. This was also covered in the video.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
The irony isn't lost that I've made 4 posts in this thread in the entire month of October while he has 11 on this page alone.
beer 30
Footballguy
Dezbelief
Footballguy
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
According to world meter China has 500 active cases and the USA has 9 million.
You guys are so lucky that you got jabbed. It's like you are now superman. CNN clownshow: (CNN)People who got Covid-19 vaccines were not only less likely to die from the virus, but they were less likely to die from any cause over the following months, researchers reported Friday. 
Simply a pathetic lie to try and get some sheeple jabbed.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/22/health/covid-vaccines-death-rates/index.html
"In fact, it shows that people vaccinated for COVID-19 had lower death rates than those who were not vaccinated, even when COVID deaths were excluded. SCIENCE
Simply a pathetic lie to try and get some sheeple jabbed.https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/22/health/covid-vaccines-death-rates/index.html
"In fact, it shows that people vaccinated for COVID-19 had lower death rates than those who were not vaccinated, even when COVID deaths were excluded.
SCIENCE 
Jackstraw
Footballguy
Well wouldn't it stand to reason that people taking more preventative health precautions in one area would in another as well?You guys are so lucky that you got jabbed. It's like you are now superman. CNN clownshow: (CNN)People who got Covid-19 vaccines were not only less likely to die from the virus, but they were less likely to die from any cause over the following months, researchers reported Friday.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/22/health/covid-vaccines-death-rates/index.html
"In fact, it shows that people vaccinated for COVID-19 had lower death rates than those who were not vaccinated, even when COVID deaths were excluded.
Some of the anti vaxxer rally folks don't appear to be model specimens of health.
And sheeple is one of the most dismissive divisive terms developed over the last few years. Instant conversation stopper for me.
fred_1_15301
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Stop engaging the Russian bot.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Your post would have been even more compelling if you slipped in the words "alpha, beta and cuck".You guys are so lucky that you got jabbed. It's like you are now superman. CNN clownshow: (CNN)People who got Covid-19 vaccines were not only less likely to die from the virus, but they were less likely to die from any cause over the following months, researchers reported Friday.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/22/health/covid-vaccines-death-rates/index.html
"In fact, it shows that people vaccinated for COVID-19 had lower death rates than those who were not vaccinated, even when COVID deaths were excluded.
Missed opportunity, better luck next time.
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beer 30
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gianmarco
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Until then, I'll be over here eating grass. I heard on NPR it adds to the vaccine super immunity.
top dog
Footballguy
Received the booster today. Sams was a little discombobulated in the process. Even though I had a confirmation email with my 5pm appt, they didn't have it in their system. No worries though, just fill out these forms. Tech asked if I was getting the Moderna since that was what I had before. Was my choice if I wanted to go Pfizer or Moderna. Told him since I hadn't died from the Moderna shots or COVID yet, let's go with what seemed to work so far.
I asked them about my Dad who is overdue for a booster. He got his at a local drug store but hasn't gotten the email back saying he's ready for the booster (even though he confirmed online he wanted one). They said anyone can use their pharmacy. Don't have to be a member. "Bring him on up". FYI in case anyone is having any issues finding it at their local drug store or whatever...
Courtjester
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My family has been so careful throughout this whole thing--mainly because of my compromised health. We are vaccinated and mask up everywhere.
Friday night my 17 year old came home from school with diarrhea and sniffles. Told her to just get some sleep and watch herself. Late Saturday, I start it, but, in addition, I have a headache, cough and ear ringing (very odd) along with it. My daughter went to school today because she felt a lot better and was worried about missing a big test. i began to feel worse as the day went on and did a rapid at home test. It came back positive. I went and immediately pulled my daughter out of school and we both got a Covid test and now are in a holding pattern for 24-72 hours until we get the results.
She said one of her good friend's family just found out today they are all positive. So that may be the smoking gun here.
I feel terrible. I am freezing, but no fever. Coughing and just exhausted. I am hoping it is just a bad cold/flu type thing. My daughter is isolated in her room and I am isolated in the computer room with my wife running back and forth leaving food/drink outside our doors.
Crossing fingers--I was planning on getting my booster on Friday....
Friday night my 17 year old came home from school with diarrhea and sniffles. Told her to just get some sleep and watch herself. Late Saturday, I start it, but, in addition, I have a headache, cough and ear ringing (very odd) along with it. My daughter went to school today because she felt a lot better and was worried about missing a big test. i began to feel worse as the day went on and did a rapid at home test. It came back positive. I went and immediately pulled my daughter out of school and we both got a Covid test and now are in a holding pattern for 24-72 hours until we get the results.
She said one of her good friend's family just found out today they are all positive. So that may be the smoking gun here.
I feel terrible. I am freezing, but no fever. Coughing and just exhausted. I am hoping it is just a bad cold/flu type thing. My daughter is isolated in her room and I am isolated in the computer room with my wife running back and forth leaving food/drink outside our doors.
Crossing fingers--I was planning on getting my booster on Friday....
skol asylum
Footballguy
Hope you get better soon with no long term crap to deal with.My family has been so careful throughout this whole thing--mainly because of my compromised health. We are vaccinated and mask up everywhere.
Friday night my 17 year old came home from school with diarrhea and sniffles. Told her to just get some sleep and watch herself. Late Saturday, I start it, but, in addition, I have a headache, cough and ear ringing (very odd) along with it. My daughter went to school today because she felt a lot better and was worried about missing a big test. i began to feel worse as the day went on and did a rapid at home test. It came back positive. I went and immediately pulled my daughter out of school and we both got a Covid test and now are in a holding pattern for 24-72 hours until we get the results.
She said one of her good friend's family just found out today they are all positive. So that may be the smoking gun here.
I feel terrible. I am freezing, but no fever. Coughing and just exhausted. I am hoping it is just a bad cold/flu type thing. My daughter is isolated in her room and I am isolated in the computer room with my wife running back and forth leaving food/drink outside our doors.
Crossing fingers--I was planning on getting my booster on Friday....
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Why? Just curious. I was going to wait a little longer, but we were at Rite Aid and the pharmacist was like it's time if you want it. Took 2 mins so what the hell. Moderna again, btw.
belljr
Footballguy
Well since 2 weeks ago, I was in the category that didn't "need one" right now, and my slight overweightness is my only condition, I'm in no rush to take off work and most likely feel like #### for a day ( I did on shot 2). Numbers are coming way down in my area.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
It’s likely more than that. We’ve known about increased mortality from heart disease and stroke in people who’ve recovered from the flu, for example, and covid has even more potential for persistent organ damage post infection. And flu shots mitigate those risks, so it’s not a stretch to believe covid vaccination would have salutary effects above and beyond preventing infection.
Agree about sheeple, and always find it ironic that people less engaged in critical thinking are so prone to identifying others as a mindless flock.
themeanmachine
Footballguy
I got mine because it seems like the 3-4 week gap between the first 2 doses of Pfizer/Moderna was likely too short, and the booster will really solidify immunity, both today and in the medium/longer term. I have no expertise in this, it's just what I've read in various places.Well since 2 weeks ago, I was in the category that didn't "need one" right now, and my slight overweightness is my only condition, I'm in no rush to take off work and most likely feel like #### for a day ( I did on shot 2). Numbers are coming way down in my area.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Hope you have a swift recovery.My family has been so careful throughout this whole thing--mainly because of my compromised health. We are vaccinated and mask up everywhere.
Friday night my 17 year old came home from school with diarrhea and sniffles. Told her to just get some sleep and watch herself. Late Saturday, I start it, but, in addition, I have a headache, cough and ear ringing (very odd) along with it. My daughter went to school today because she felt a lot better and was worried about missing a big test. i began to feel worse as the day went on and did a rapid at home test. It came back positive. I went and immediately pulled my daughter out of school and we both got a Covid test and now are in a holding pattern for 24-72 hours until we get the results.
She said one of her good friend's family just found out today they are all positive. So that may be the smoking gun here.
I feel terrible. I am freezing, but no fever. Coughing and just exhausted. I am hoping it is just a bad cold/flu type thing. My daughter is isolated in her room and I am isolated in the computer room with my wife running back and forth leaving food/drink outside our doors.
Crossing fingers--I was planning on getting my booster on Friday....
Was your daughter around the friend a lot?
My general recommendation for the boosters. If you got J&J get Moderna or Pfizer. If you got Moderna or Pfizer, get the mRNA of your choice. Moderna was higher for J&J booster but that was also a full dose and you’ll receive half a dose for the booster. There’s little benefit to getting the J&J as your booster.
My belief is that Moderna and Pfizer are pretty equal. Moderna performed better (and caused more side effects) because of the higher dose. I think with the lower booster dose, I think to two will balance out. I’m interested to see how the side effects on the Moderna booster are. We just started giving them Friday so I haven’t had much feedback, but my guess would be minor side effects for most.
My belief is that Moderna and Pfizer are pretty equal. Moderna performed better (and caused more side effects) because of the higher dose. I think with the lower booster dose, I think to two will balance out. I’m interested to see how the side effects on the Moderna booster are. We just started giving them Friday so I haven’t had much feedback, but my guess would be minor side effects for most.
top dog
Footballguy
I had no side effects other than sore arm after shot #1 of Moderna. Shot #2 I was pretty tired and sore the next day, was fine the following day. Less of a sore arm than the first shot. Got the booster yesterday, sore arm comparable to shot #2. Had some minor body aches last night around 9:30. Took a couple ibuprofen. All good today.
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Insoxicated
This is a good breakdown. Well said.
My full dose (100mcg) Moderna booster was probably the least-impactful (side effect wise) for me... of the 3 shots. I've read from lots of others that seems to be common.
In wholly unscientific analysis, I don't THINK side effects are a big concern with boosters unless perhaps if you're going from J&J to mRNA (pure speculation).
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Excellent question here.
This claim is ironic given given how terribly off base many of Cav's posts have been over the duration of this event.
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That would be my thought too. There hasn’t been any pattern for side effects with Pfizer so far. I’ll probably be doing a large booster clinic for previous J&J that will probably go with Moderna. I’ve got several friends in that group that I’m sure I’ll hear about it if they get side effects.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Curious on that. I understood initial Moderna is 3x Pfizer, and Moderna booster is a half dose... which would still be higher than Pfizer, right?
Dezbelief
Footballguy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/10/22/mix-and-match-covid-booster-shots-explained-pfizer-moderna-and-jj.html
Pfizer and J&J's boosters have the same dosages as their original vaccine regimens: 30 micrograms and 0.5 milliliters, respectively. Moderna's booster is 50 micrograms per shot, which is half the dosage of its original 100-microgram vaccines.
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Doug B
Footballguy
Same exact thing for me back in March/April. That Moderna Shot #2 fatigue was delayed almost 24 hours from the time I got that second shot ... kinda weird. I'm hoping to have the same "no biggie" response to the Moderna booster that you did.
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