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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (9 Viewers)
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belljr
Footballguy
I just drag my ### across the carpet like my dog doesIs that what you did with no TP?
beer 30
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Are there public testing centers in your area? This page looks like it's private sites, but if you call some of the ones local to you ... they might know of public testing going on.
SpurrierisisGod
Footballguy
There are but it's still by appointment. The only ones with availability are the non-rapid tests and they say a 5-7 day turnaround now.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Kids’ school has had spikes in positive tests near-constantly the past week. Business as usual, because what can you do?
Today - toddler classes get shut down for the day (at 6:30am via email) because a single kid home-tested positive last night.
Zero explanation for the change in procedure. So weird.
Today - toddler classes get shut down for the day (at 6:30am via email) because a single kid home-tested positive last night.
Zero explanation for the change in procedure. So weird.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Sent my kids with KN95s today. Will see how it goes. No other emails last week, but the pre-K teachers are still wearing cloth masks instead of something that does better.
Apparently some parents are picking their kids up for lunchtime. Debating whether that is an option for the next few weeks while in omicron spike. My wife doesn't work, so it is viable.
Apparently some parents are picking their kids up for lunchtime. Debating whether that is an option for the next few weeks while in omicron spike. My wife doesn't work, so it is viable.
SpurrierisisGod
Footballguy
Nice catch 22...
Work won't let me come back without a negative test result. Can't get a test scheduled anywhere and one urgent care just told me that no one is testing unless you have symptoms due to a test shortage. Yay.
Work won't let me come back without a negative test result. Can't get a test scheduled anywhere and one urgent care just told me that no one is testing unless you have symptoms due to a test shortage. Yay.
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b-snatchers
Footballguy
May have to travel next week. Just wondering if there are any studies done that shows that COVID spreads on airplanes? Anyone know?
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Insoxicated
I'm sitting on:
8 Binax Now Antigen Tests
6 Binax Now Ag Antigen Tests with eDoc an Travel Validation
2 Lucira PCR Tests
Walmart had BinaxNOW tests in for $14 per 2-pack so I ordered 6 more... will put me at 20 Antigen Quick tests
Need the Travel tests for the Nicaragua/Costa Rica trip (re-entry into the US)
Going to bring a half dozen or so Regular Antigen tests for testing as needed on the trip (Can't just buy a test there, and clinic testing is pricey at $100-200/test).
soothsayer
Footballguy
Walmart recently jacked up the price to $19.88. Walgreens has had them listed at $24.xx when in stock.
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Insoxicated
I've probably flown 20-25 flight legs during the pandemic. No issues. Wear a good mask (n95) not some crappy cloth one... you'll be good to go.
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Yep that's why I stocked up. I probably get asked for a test at least once a week. Funny how everyone I've given them to has forgotten to pay me
The Z Machine
Footballguy
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beer 30
Footballguy
Been buying these, delivery is out a ways now but you can get them. Just ran because of a close contact and had to loan one to my daughter
https://www.amazon.com/iHealth-COVID-19-Authorized-Non-invasive-Discomfort/dp/B09KZ6TBNY/ref=lp_23480822011_1_1
My work has a very odd masking policy. If you're sitting at your cube, you can unmask. As soon as you get up, you need to mask up if you're not vaccinated. I'm at home this week but because of the recent surge in cases most everyone is walking around with masks on but taking them off when they sit down at their cube. Seems idiotic to me. I get it if you have an office, shut the door, mask off, cool. Cubes are wide open with 3/4 height walls see you can see everyone's head.
https://www.amazon.com/iHealth-COVID-19-Authorized-Non-invasive-Discomfort/dp/B09KZ6TBNY/ref=lp_23480822011_1_1
My work has a very odd masking policy. If you're sitting at your cube, you can unmask. As soon as you get up, you need to mask up if you're not vaccinated. I'm at home this week but because of the recent surge in cases most everyone is walking around with masks on but taking them off when they sit down at their cube. Seems idiotic to me. I get it if you have an office, shut the door, mask off, cool. Cubes are wide open with 3/4 height walls see you can see everyone's head.
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IMO Cloth masks are better than nothing, but in a higher risk / enclosed environment like an airplane, I won't personally trust anything other than an N95 vs Omicron right now.
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b-snatchers
Footballguy
I intend to use a KN95 mask.
Is an airplane (as opposed to an airport) considered higher risk? I heard the airflow is superior, just wondering how it compares to say a restaurant for example?
Is an airplane (as opposed to an airport) considered higher risk? I heard the airflow is superior, just wondering how it compares to say a restaurant for example?
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Airplane is much better - far higher air turnover rate and HEPA filtration instead of lower-efficiency MERV-rated filters.
If the people next to you aren't exposing you, you probably won't get it ON the airplane. At the terminal, and being herded into the plane like cattle? There's probably more risk of exposure there.
https://www.boeing.com/confident-travel/cabin-air.html
In MN, cases reached an initial peak of around 6k positive cases a day around Thanksgiving, and then trended down to about 3k cases in mid-December. Since mid-December, positive cases has skyrocketed (like everywhere) to about 8k new cases a day last week. See chart
But, the good news is that ICU cases of covid have continued to drop. On 12/16, MN has 374 people in ICU with covid. That is now down to 255. Non-ICU and ICU beds are still very full, but at least the number of people with covid in ICU is dropping. Hospital usage
But, the good news is that ICU cases of covid have continued to drop. On 12/16, MN has 374 people in ICU with covid. That is now down to 255. Non-ICU and ICU beds are still very full, but at least the number of people with covid in ICU is dropping. Hospital usage
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Fourth Covid-19 shots for immunocompromised will start this week in the US
From CNN's Virginia Langmaid
Under the latest guidance from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, fourth doses of a Covid-19 vaccine can begin this week for the severely immunocompromised.
In early August, the agency recommended a third shot of an mRNA vaccine be added to the primary vaccination regimen for the severely immunocompromised. Later, in October, the CDC moved to recommend a booster dose for the severely immunocompromised age 12 and older at least six months after their third primary vaccination.
But the CDC recently shifted to urge boosters five months after primary vaccinations. For immunocompromised people, this means a fourth shot will be available to some as early as this week, five months after the third shot was authorized.
From CNN's Virginia Langmaid
Under the latest guidance from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, fourth doses of a Covid-19 vaccine can begin this week for the severely immunocompromised.
In early August, the agency recommended a third shot of an mRNA vaccine be added to the primary vaccination regimen for the severely immunocompromised. Later, in October, the CDC moved to recommend a booster dose for the severely immunocompromised age 12 and older at least six months after their third primary vaccination.
But the CDC recently shifted to urge boosters five months after primary vaccinations. For immunocompromised people, this means a fourth shot will be available to some as early as this week, five months after the third shot was authorized.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Also, Pfizer says it will have an updated vaccine that is also effective against Omicron infection by March -- and it may be available immediately in some circumstances.
Moderna starting clinical trials on an Omicron specific booster.
Seems like Pfizer is updating the current vaccine to offer protection against Omicron and potential future variants, whereas Moderna may or may not be Omicron specific only.
Moderna starting clinical trials on an Omicron specific booster.
Seems like Pfizer is updating the current vaccine to offer protection against Omicron and potential future variants, whereas Moderna may or may not be Omicron specific only.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I'm not sure that I'm seeing a lot of benefit from an omicron-specific booster (or whatever term we're using). If you're already up to date on your vaccination, omicron isn't anything to worry about. And if you're not already up to date, you probably aren't going to take a booster anyway. So who is the target market for this?
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
I believe they're saying a boosted mRNA is 70% effective against symptomatic infection, but we don't know whether or not that wanes.
If there is a need for another booster, an omicron version would be useful to bring that back up into the 90s.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Those that are severely at-risk from complications from any case of COVID infection. Immunocompromised and the frail elderly. People in nursing homes (especially those where the staff are reluctant to get the shot themselves).
Besides, there are also kids that are just turning 5 years old that could benefit from never getting an Omicron infection. That would reduce community transmission, which is a good thing.
Scoresman
Footballguy
My airport advice is to wear an N95 and have the air blasting on yourself to keep circulation in your immediate area.
In the terminal is where you are most at risk. Find an empty gate and sit there to wait for your flight. Hold your breath on the jetbridge when boarding.
In the terminal is where you are most at risk. Find an empty gate and sit there to wait for your flight. Hold your breath on the jetbridge when boarding.
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That stance has been proven incorrect so many times in this thread it's not even worth the debate.
Cloth masks offer some but very limited protection vs the virus.
Properly fitting N95 type respirators provide very effective protection.
You're free to wear what you'd like, but please don't spread bad information in here.
gianmarco
Footballguy
All of this. Anything to reduce spread is welcome. The issue isn't that "it's just a cold" for those that are immunized, it's moreso that Omicron may have already burned itself through by the time it comes out and no longer be prevalent. That remains to be seen and I'd rather they err on getting it out there and available.
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Airplane is better because, ideally, you're not removing your mask to eat or drink.
I place my N95 mask on before entering the airport, and don't remove it until I leave the airport at my destination unless I can find an area to sit with nobody around. Thus far it's worked.
belljr
Footballguy
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
All I know is from history, traveling on a plane was a good way to come down with something. Petri dish.
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matuski
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
it has... read the links I replied to you above
You realize what you posted is really, really far from proof... right?
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
lol nevermind
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gianmarco
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
This is how dumb and ridiculous things have gotten.
My friend's daughter was tested in school on Wednesday. Finally, TODAY they got results of her test. She was positive. Completely asymptomatic btw. The school called my friend to go pick her up from school. She's been in school since Wednesday.
Enough is enough already. Can we just move on with our ####### lives already? Yeah I get it, hospitals are full. NOTHING we do RIGHT NOW is going to stop that.
My friend's daughter was tested in school on Wednesday. Finally, TODAY they got results of her test. She was positive. Completely asymptomatic btw. The school called my friend to go pick her up from school. She's been in school since Wednesday.
Enough is enough already. Can we just move on with our ####### lives already? Yeah I get it, hospitals are full. NOTHING we do RIGHT NOW is going to stop that.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I knew it was going to happen--17-year-old has been back to school starting last Thursday and today I get the call to get her because she started a fever and a sore throat. She had two different teachers and probably 5-6 kids out for each class. I picked her up and we found a drive through testing site--results in 48 hours.
My wife got the text this morning that her District was instructing admin personnel to report to different schools due to the large number of sick teachers. She got to her assigned elementary school under the impression it was 6 teachers out--turns out it was 11. She basically just helped to facilitate parents coming to the school and picking up their kids (mind you it was 9:30 am) so the school can go virtual for the foreseeable future. When she got done at that school, they sent her to another school with the same issue and the same solution.
Two years and it seems like we are getting nowhere.
My wife got the text this morning that her District was instructing admin personnel to report to different schools due to the large number of sick teachers. She got to her assigned elementary school under the impression it was 6 teachers out--turns out it was 11. She basically just helped to facilitate parents coming to the school and picking up their kids (mind you it was 9:30 am) so the school can go virtual for the foreseeable future. When she got done at that school, they sent her to another school with the same issue and the same solution.
Two years and it seems like we are getting nowhere.
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Do you think basic cloth masks provide the same level of protection as a properly worn N95 mask?
If so, show your work.
If not, stop being a nit.
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