skol asylum
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It should have been Huntsman. He might have helped to prevent dragging us into conflict with the Chinese.
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Quez
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
You do great work pretending to be insane while trolling. I can only assume you have some relevant experience.
timschochet
Footballguy
I must correct you. The two biggest Hillary fans in the FFA have been myself and squistion- at times we were the ONLY true Hillary fans here, the only two who were enthusiastic rather than reluctant supporters.It's amusing the same people really wanting this Russian angle to stick, are the same people who were the biggest Hillary fans in the FFA (minus saints). It's been a rough 2016 with all these L's for you guys.
To the best of my knowledge, squistion has not commented on this issue. My only direct comment was made yesterday: I stated that while there should be an investigation, I doubted that the Wikileaks story had any real effect on the result of the election.
So you're wrong again.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I like a world where "allies" doesn't mean "we let them hack our politicians and political operatives and release stuff through Wikileaks, and in return, we let them do whatever they want in the world!"
The Busy The Tired
Footballguy
What did the wikileaks expose exactly? Oh yeah, that the DNC screwed Bernie? That CNN gave Clinton debate questions early?
Shame on them for exposing corruption!!!
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Says the guy that spent years using south park videos to make his points and believes 100s of athletes learned Swahili at UNC.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
skol asylum
Footballguy
You go ahead and keep spouting "scoreboard". The grownups in the room will continue to discuss the real world disastrous implications Trump's win means for the country and the rest of the world.It's amusing the same people really wanting this Russian angle to stick, are the same people who were the biggest Hillary fans in the FFA (minus saints). It's been a rough 2016 with all these L's for you guys.
The Busy The Tired
Footballguy
Either we stop them from hacking us... or we learn to hack them back!
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The Busy The Tired
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Quez
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Its OK to be temporary allies with evil people in order to fight greater evil: we allied ourselves with Stalin in order to defeat Hitler.
But unless those are the circumstances it is not OK to be allies with evil people, ever. Russia is a great country but it is being led by an evil man, a murderer and a thug. It's not OK for us to be BFF with him. We may have to deal with him, and even work with him on occasion, but we shouldn't be friends.
But unless those are the circumstances it is not OK to be allies with evil people, ever. Russia is a great country but it is being led by an evil man, a murderer and a thug. It's not OK for us to be BFF with him. We may have to deal with him, and even work with him on occasion, but we shouldn't be friends.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
If that's the case, you should be significantly more concerned about the future of the Republic than people already are.They are clearly allies of Trump.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Don't forget 2 terms as the Texas Agriculture Commissioner. It would have made a lot more sense for him to be Sec. of Agriculture.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I could be wrong but to be clear right now the siege of Aleppo has a toll of around 110,000 killed. The city is being razed. I don't think Budapest 56 approached that, but yes it's on Russia's wall of infamy.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Not even close in comparison. Old Budapest and it's historic districts are all in fantastic shape- far better than most of Europe.
The Busy The Tired
Footballguy
I'm more interested in restoring our nation's power on a global stage. Aligning with Russia is a part of making America great again. It doesn't make us bad guys by proxy.
Would it really be such a bad thing if we got along with Russia?
badmojo1006
Footballguy
I read somewhere that the Intelligence Agencies have hacked into various Russian entities - Kremlin, Power Grid, etc., just to say back off, we can do the same
ffldrew
Footballguy
God - reading that I forgot they had a special prosecutor looking into Hamilton Jordan doing cocaine at Studio 54. Mother Teresa couldn't have been in government back in those days.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
*you're
Also, you totally bought that pizzagate ####, we both know it. I understand why you'd want to play it off as fishing now though, it is pretty embarrassing.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tough. In one corner we have Putin and Assad. In another corner we have ISIL. In the other corner we have AQ.
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badmojo1006
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
This is not just a false narrative, it's an insane one. There is no one with more power on a global stage right now than the United States. We are the sole superpower in the world and have been for decades. The Trump presidency and the positions he has already taken threaten that more than anything has since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Would it be so bad if we got along with Russia? Absolutely not. However, the goal of foreign policy is not to get along with Russia. It's to properly assert U.S. rights and privileges throughout the world, while staying true to our ideals and desires as much as possible. If Russia wants to get on board with that, awesome. That is extremely unlikely.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Quez
Footballguy
Sorry about the grammatical error! I just got a smartphone and it automatically changes the words when I type them. YOU ARE my favorite fish.
timschochet
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Gay Boy Scout troop leaders and contributions to Planned Parenthood, real big issues for the SOS. - But hey if it's one more problem for Don so be it...
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Thanks for the update! And like I said, I don't blame you for trying the fishing angle. If a dude fired shots at a restaurant based on some crazy #### I'd been spreading around the internet, I might try to pretend I was just kidding too.
Skoo
Footballguy
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Sorry, if you keep making dumb statements you're going to continue to get called out on them.
So, who else is in on the liberal conspiracy against Trump today? Has the NSA joined up yet?
Quez
Footballguy
What we need to do is find some rebels that are enemies of our enemies and give them a boatload of weapons.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Quez
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We get it Spooge, you can build a house with all of the L's you racked up in the FFA for 2016
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't get this major shift where people think America has fallen apart. It seems like every election before 2016, if a candidate even hinted that America wasn't #1 they would get tore to shreds. What shook Americans so much?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
For those unaware of what's going on in the world, Russia signed on to an OPEC production reduction deal yesterday, solidifying an energy alliance with Saudi Arabia. This will significantly bolster its oil market in rubles, Putin's dream that was finally brought to fruition early this year. If China and Saudi Arabia sign on to trade oil in rubles - and that's still a big "if" right now - the U.S. is crippled in the global economic marketplace. This is one big goal many think Russia has. It's ambitious, but it's doable. It would require Russia to drive a wedge between the U.S. and China and between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. I wonder how that's going.
https://www.ft.com/content/b59c0e9c-bfab-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a
Edit to include article from FT, which I believe is subscription.
https://www.ft.com/content/b59c0e9c-bfab-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a
Edit to include article from FT, which I believe is subscription.
The first global crude supply pact in 15 years has underlined the growing energy alliance between Saudi Arabia and Russia, as the depth of the two-year oil slump forces co-operation between once unlikely partners.
Russia led the main oil producers from outside the Opec cartel, including Mexico and Kazakhstan, in a deal signed this weekend to reduce supply by 568,000 barrels a day — with Moscow, the largest non-Opec exporter, agreeing to shoulder just over half the cut.
Brent crude was up as much as 6.5 per cent within minutes of markets opening in Asia on Monday, to a year-high above $57.89 a barrel, following the non-Opec deal.
The agreement follows almost a year of petro-diplomacy that led Russian president Vladimir Putin and Saudi Arabian leaders to put aside differences over the war in Syria as their economies struggle to adapt to the halving in oil prices since mid-2014.
The direct co-operation between the world’s top two crude exporters comes after Saudi Arabia on November 30 led the 13-member Opec cartel in a deal to cut supply by more than 1m b/d, pushing prices up 15 per cent to above $54 a barrel.
“It is very significant to have an agreement by the two powerhouses that are Russia and Saudi Arabia,” said Olivier Jakob, analyst at the Petromatrix consultancy. “A new geopolitical dynamic is being created which could be transformative for oil markets.”
Saudi Arabia and Russia together account for more than a fifth of global oil supplies, but mistrust between the two nations has not easily been overcome.
Russia reneged on a previous joint deal to reduce output during the last prolonged oil slump at the turn of the century, and its offer to reduce supply by 300,000 b/d this time is seen as partly including natural declines from older fields.
But the involvement of Mr Putin, who has held talks this year with Saudi’s powerful Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, adds weight to Moscow’s commitment.
“With Putin directly involved in brokering this deal and Saudi Arabia and Russia co-operating on various fronts, not just the oil market, Putin is likely to put substantial political pressure on the companies to ensure substantial, if not full, compliance,” said Amrita Sen, co-founder at Energy Aspects.
Saudi Arabia has traditionally acted as the oil market’s so-called swing producer, raising production when supplies were tight and lowering them when necessary to bolster the market and support the price.
But in 2014 the rapid growth of US shale and other high-cost output, after almost four years of $100 oil, led Riyadh to abandon its role due to fear of losing market share.
The subsequent crash in prices has stalled non-Opec supply growth and led to as much as a trillion dollars in investment cuts, but also hammered the budgets of major oil producers.
Riyadh has embarked on an ambitious project to end its economy’s over reliance on oil revenues but needs a higher price in the short term to achieve its goals, including listing part of Saudi Aramco, its state oil company, to raise funds.
It feared giving up more market share to Russia, one of the few non-Opec countries to successfully keep raising output during the slump. Russian output this year reached a record above 11m b/d, but a painful oil-price triggered recession — compounded by sanctions over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine — led Moscow to talks.
“Negotiations from technical to leadership went on for a year with meetings in Russia and elsewhere,” said one Opec delegate. “This wasn’t a game and it didn’t come easily but it is impossible to see [Mr Putin] changing his mind. Saudi too will fulfil its promise.”
Khalid al Falih, Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, said over the weekend that he could now potentially cut supply further than what was agreed with Opec at the start of the year, in what has been seen as a warning shot to traders that might want to test their resolve.
Riyadh and Moscow are thought to be targeting pushing prices above $60 a barrel next year, though analysts cautioned that they are unlikely to have the market entirely their own way.
US oil output has fallen by about 10 per cent since early 2015, but US shale drillers have cut costs dramatically and could respond to any price recovery.
Some market watchers also still harbour doubts whether enough of their pledged cuts will be enacted to start drawing down the huge overhang of inventories that built up during the glut.
“Occasionally these loose, ad hoc producer agreements enjoyed temporary success, but all eventually failed due to cheating from without and within,” said Bob McNally, a former White House energy adviser who runs Rapidan Group, a US-based consulting group. “Time will tell whether [the weekend’s] agreement breaks the historical mould.”
Russia led the main oil producers from outside the Opec cartel, including Mexico and Kazakhstan, in a deal signed this weekend to reduce supply by 568,000 barrels a day — with Moscow, the largest non-Opec exporter, agreeing to shoulder just over half the cut.
Brent crude was up as much as 6.5 per cent within minutes of markets opening in Asia on Monday, to a year-high above $57.89 a barrel, following the non-Opec deal.
The agreement follows almost a year of petro-diplomacy that led Russian president Vladimir Putin and Saudi Arabian leaders to put aside differences over the war in Syria as their economies struggle to adapt to the halving in oil prices since mid-2014.
The direct co-operation between the world’s top two crude exporters comes after Saudi Arabia on November 30 led the 13-member Opec cartel in a deal to cut supply by more than 1m b/d, pushing prices up 15 per cent to above $54 a barrel.
“It is very significant to have an agreement by the two powerhouses that are Russia and Saudi Arabia,” said Olivier Jakob, analyst at the Petromatrix consultancy. “A new geopolitical dynamic is being created which could be transformative for oil markets.”
Saudi Arabia and Russia together account for more than a fifth of global oil supplies, but mistrust between the two nations has not easily been overcome.
Russia reneged on a previous joint deal to reduce output during the last prolonged oil slump at the turn of the century, and its offer to reduce supply by 300,000 b/d this time is seen as partly including natural declines from older fields.
But the involvement of Mr Putin, who has held talks this year with Saudi’s powerful Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, adds weight to Moscow’s commitment.
“With Putin directly involved in brokering this deal and Saudi Arabia and Russia co-operating on various fronts, not just the oil market, Putin is likely to put substantial political pressure on the companies to ensure substantial, if not full, compliance,” said Amrita Sen, co-founder at Energy Aspects.
Saudi Arabia has traditionally acted as the oil market’s so-called swing producer, raising production when supplies were tight and lowering them when necessary to bolster the market and support the price.
But in 2014 the rapid growth of US shale and other high-cost output, after almost four years of $100 oil, led Riyadh to abandon its role due to fear of losing market share.
The subsequent crash in prices has stalled non-Opec supply growth and led to as much as a trillion dollars in investment cuts, but also hammered the budgets of major oil producers.
Riyadh has embarked on an ambitious project to end its economy’s over reliance on oil revenues but needs a higher price in the short term to achieve its goals, including listing part of Saudi Aramco, its state oil company, to raise funds.
It feared giving up more market share to Russia, one of the few non-Opec countries to successfully keep raising output during the slump. Russian output this year reached a record above 11m b/d, but a painful oil-price triggered recession — compounded by sanctions over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine — led Moscow to talks.
“Negotiations from technical to leadership went on for a year with meetings in Russia and elsewhere,” said one Opec delegate. “This wasn’t a game and it didn’t come easily but it is impossible to see [Mr Putin] changing his mind. Saudi too will fulfil its promise.”
Khalid al Falih, Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, said over the weekend that he could now potentially cut supply further than what was agreed with Opec at the start of the year, in what has been seen as a warning shot to traders that might want to test their resolve.
Riyadh and Moscow are thought to be targeting pushing prices above $60 a barrel next year, though analysts cautioned that they are unlikely to have the market entirely their own way.
US oil output has fallen by about 10 per cent since early 2015, but US shale drillers have cut costs dramatically and could respond to any price recovery.
Some market watchers also still harbour doubts whether enough of their pledged cuts will be enacted to start drawing down the huge overhang of inventories that built up during the glut.
“Occasionally these loose, ad hoc producer agreements enjoyed temporary success, but all eventually failed due to cheating from without and within,” said Bob McNally, a former White House energy adviser who runs Rapidan Group, a US-based consulting group. “Time will tell whether [the weekend’s] agreement breaks the historical mould.”
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Caught then end of a Trump speech the other day and he said he was going to "make America rich again". Really weird to hear from the President-elect of the wealthiest country on Earth so far
Ilov80s
Footballguy
butcher boy
Footballguy
8 years of Obama. Most of things that come out of Obama's mouth are lies. Bald-faced lies which he full well knows are lies but he doesn’t care because he believes he is “special” and above accountability and scrutiny. In his mind (or the bubble he lives in) laws, morals, ethics, common decency and anything else that puts limits upon the rest of us, do not apply to him. This is something that all sociopaths have in common.
Aside from not killing millions of people in gulags or concentration camps, he reminds me of Hitler and Stalin. Both of those monsters lived a delusional life where they believed that anything they said was true and above reproach.
Stalin constantly sought, purged, imprisoned and murdered imaginary enemies by the millions.
While being overrun on the eastern front by the Russians, Hitler directed his generals to mobilize imaginary German divisions to reinforce his army in Stalingrad. He knew full well that those divisions didn’t exist but believed he could conjure them out of thin air by his will alone.
Obama is no different. He thinks he can make something true simply by saying it is so. That’s a sociopath.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, but the markets are through the roof, unemployment is down, we have the best university system in the world, the federal deficit is shrinking, middle class taxes are at very low levels, violent crime is down, teens alcohol and drug use is down, domestic oil production is at record levels, etc.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
- Russia sits astride Iran, Iraq and Libya now. People think out disengagement doesn't have consequences. It does.
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