Official Donald Trump for President thread (3 Viewers)

[Jamesbrownkid]

As a commentator on TV put it last night, when Trump says "Make America great again" what he really means is "Make America white again".

Man, you sure throw the race term around. Make you feel good?

Hey, when the jackboot fits...

It doesn't.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/24/media-race-hoax-debunked-polls-prove-trump-supporters-are-not-racist/

We keep hearing from the mainstream media and their allies among the Republican Establishment about how racist, sexist and nativist supporters of Republican frontrunner Donald Trump are. The polls prove that talking point is nothing more than yet another fabricated race hoax.

Guess who benefits most if Trump exits the race?

Yep, women and minorities:

But what would happen if the “current front-runner” aka Trump were out? The Fox poll asks voters their second choice candidate, which allows us to look at what happens to the race if someone were to get out. For instance, if Trump gets out, Carson takes the top spot (24 percent), followed by Rubio (12 percent), Fiorina (11 percent), Cruz (11 percent) and Bush (10 percent).

If Trump bails, two Hispanics and a black man pick up almost 50% of the billionaire businessman’s voters.

Moreover, if Trump bails, a woman, two Hispanics, and a black men earn 58% of total GOP support while the white guys wither and die.

The mainstream media are nothing more than a bunch of godforsaken, leftwing liars.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

As a commentator on TV put it last night, when Trump says "Make America great again" what he really means is "Make America white again".

Man, you sure throw the race term around. Make you feel good?

I bet you are drunk right now, irishidiot.

Nope. I'll wait until 6:00.

It will help when you start a fight.

so people call trump a racist while others insult by stereotyping ..i love this non PC stuff ...let it rip fellas

 

[elbowrm]

I have a question:

Those of you that are not voting for Trump, who do you support for our next president?

Bloomberg is my ideal candidate. Social liberal, economic conservative, stopping senseless gun violence a key issue, actually has the net worth Trump claims.

 

[squistion]

We're going to live like Kings under Trump. American infrastructure will be improved, jobs will be superfluous, Christianty will be King, our veterans will be taken care of, and America will begin to get out of it's extreme debt! We will all benefit.

Socialism isn't the only way to make sure everyone can be taken care of. Expert capitalism on a global scale will work as well!

Superfluous? Jobs will be superfluous under Trump?

You shouldn't use a word if you don't know what it means.

 

[SIDA!]

Tim. Have you ever defined racism? I'm curious to read what it is since I'm sure it in no way resembles what it says in my dictionary.

 

[timschochet]

Tim. Have you ever defined racism? I'm curious to read what it is since I'm sure it in no way resembles what it says in my dictionary.

To paraphrase a former SC Justice (who was speaking of prnography): I know it when I see it.

 

[SIDA!]

Tim. Have you ever defined racism? I'm curious to read what it is since I'm sure it in no way resembles what it says in my dictionary.

To paraphrase a former SC Justice (who was speaking of prnography): I know it when I see it.

No. You don't.

There is a difference between something that is obscene and racist.

Chiefly the fact that one describes and labels another human being and puts them in a negative light.

So, you don't just get to walk around saying such and such is racist and then fall back on "because I say so. "

 

[timschochet]

Actually, SIDA, I very rarely ever call people racist. I call statements racist, and that's an important distinction. A well meaning person can make a racist statement without really considering it or without thinking that it's racist; that doesn't make that person a racist by implication. Only if one deliberately will full knowledge makes racist statements or performs racist actions with consistency would I call one a racist. For instance, I consider Eminence, whether joking or not, to be a racist because he has made numerous comments demeaning African- Americans. That is pretty rare in this forum.

Now I consider Donald Trump's views on illegal immigration as racist for two reasons: first because he characterized most or all illegals as "from Mexico", and second because he characterized them as "rapists and murderers". Yes there were caveats, but that was the essence of his statement. I have read most of your thoughts about illegals, and while I obviously strongly disagree with you on the subject I don't find your arguments to be racist. See the difference?

In addition I found Trump's Birther comments from a couple of years ago to be implicitly racist because I don't believe Trump (or anyone else) would have spent so much time and effort on such nonsense if the President hadn't been a black man with an odd sounding name. So when I add this to Trump's statements about illegals and his checkered history in business concerning minority issues, I have no qualms concluding that Trump is probably a racist.

 

[SIDA!]

So, basically you typed 500 words to avoid giving me a definition of what racism is?

 

[dallas050]

Latest polls. Trump still leading....

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/254732-trump-stays-on-top-in-first-post-debate-fox-news-poll

 

[bigbottom]

While other candidates might not have used the word shrill, I could see them backing down once confronted based on fear of being offensive. He's right though, tying that word to sexism is a far reach.

I have never heard "shrill" used to describe a male, every usage I have seen has always been for a female. It has been considered sexist for years.

Of course. Which is what made it hilarious when he then used the word to describe Rand Paul. Gotta give it to the Donald - he is quick on his feet when it comes to zingers.

 

[Murph]

While other candidates might not have used the word shrill, I could see them backing down once confronted based on fear of being offensive. He's right though, tying that word to sexism is a far reach.

I have never heard "shrill" used to describe a male, every usage I have seen has always been for a female. It has been considered sexist for years.

Of course. Which is what made it hilarious when he then used the word to describe Rand Paul. Gotta give it to the Donald - he is quick on his feet when it comes to zingers.

I like Paul and loathe Trump but I do always laugh when Trump attacks him. Is there a backstory as to why he has such a hard-on for Paul?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 9m9 minutes ago

Donald Trump: "Remember the expression, 'Merry Christmas'? You don't hear it anymore. You're going to hear it if I'm elected." Applause.

Amazing.

 

[Joe Summer]

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 9m9 minutes ago

Donald Trump: "Remember the expression, 'Merry Christmas'? You don't hear it anymore. You're going to hear it if I'm elected." Applause.

Amazing.

My link

 

[TobiasFunke]

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 9m9 minutes ago

Donald Trump: "Remember the expression, 'Merry Christmas'? You don't hear it anymore. You're going to hear it if I'm elected." Applause.

Amazing.

My link

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid. It's remarkable to watch the contrast between Fiorina get caught in that lie about the Planned Parenthood video from the last debate while Trump can apparently lie about the fact that his campaign isn't being funded by donations and nobody bats an eye.

 

[RBM]

Imagine this thread on his Inauguration Day.

 

[QuizGuy66]

What is this Merry Christmas that Trump is talking about? I'm not familiar with it.

-QG

 

[TobiasFunke]

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid.

I don't think it's stupidity -- they just want to tear the whole system down and Trump's the only one saying he'll do it. They know he's full of #### on a lot of stuff, but everything else takes a back seat to that IMO.

What is he gonna do to "tear the whole system down," exactly? Or even approximately? I'd love to see someone list some things about "the system" that they don't like and what they think Trump might do to change them.

If you're voting for him because they think he'll "tear the whole system down" but you can't explain what it is about the system that needs to be torn down and what you think Trump might do to make it happen then yeah, it's stupidity.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/25/trump-spokesman-fox-news-marginalizing-trump-trying-to-get-him-out-of-the-race/

In an appearance on CNN’s “New Day” on Friday, Michael Cohen, special counsel for Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, spoke about Trump’s ongoing feud with the Fox News Channel.

Co-host Alisyn Camerota asked if it is just Trump not being able to handle criticism from pundits, to which Cohen explained it was much of a deeper issue than that.

“This isn’t an issue about pundits and this isn’t an issue about criticism,” he said

"what he does is he does not want anything more than for them to be fair to him. And they’re not. What they’re doing is they’re marginalizing him, they’re criticizing him, they’re trying to figure out how to get this man out of the race.”

“I don’t know if it is Fox News as opposed to some of their anchors, but I do believe that they do not report Donald Trump fairly and they do not report him accurately,” he added.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/24/bitter-truce-fox-news-ailes-furious-at-national-reviews-rich-lowry-for-forcing-fox-to-cede-moral-high-ground-to-donald-trump/

The Fox News Channel’s top executive, Roger Ailes, is “furious” at the National Review’s editor Rich Lowry for using foul language in an attack on GOP frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump on Wednesday evening, Breitbart News has learned.

Ailes is mad at Lowry because this move means, in the ongoing war between Fox News and Trump, Fox News has now “given up the moral high ground.” Essentially, Ailes understands, that means his network looks like the unfair aggressor that Trump has accused it of being—rather than a neutral arbiter of the news—all while Trump continues soaring in the 2016 GOP primary polls.

 

[The General]

Fox News is fair and balanced. Trump is way out of line here.

 

[RBM]

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid.

I don't think it's stupidity -- they just want to tear the whole system down and Trump's the only one saying he'll do it. They know he's full of #### on a lot of stuff, but everything else takes a back seat to that IMO.

What is he gonna do to "tear the whole system down," exactly? Or even approximately? I'd love to see someone list some things about "the system" that they don't like and what they think Trump might do to change them.

I think that wall thing has alot of folks excited.

 

[The General]

Ben Carlson has a 2 wall plan with a road in between. Twice as good as Trumps sad single wall.

 

[Bull Dozier]

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid.

I don't think it's stupidity -- they just want to tear the whole system down and Trump's the only one saying he'll do it. They know he's full of #### on a lot of stuff, but everything else takes a back seat to that IMO.

What is he gonna do to "tear the whole system down," exactly? Or even approximately? I'd love to see someone list some things about "the system" that they don't like and what they think Trump might do to change them.

I think that wall thing has alot of folks excited.

The wall is going to create a lot of superflous jobs. It's a 2 for 1.

 

[The General]

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 9m9 minutes ago

Donald Trump: "Remember the expression, 'Merry Christmas'? You don't hear it anymore. You're going to hear it if I'm elected." Applause.

Amazing.

The wall is a key component in the War on Christmas.

 

[lod01]

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid.

I don't think it's stupidity -- they just want to tear the whole system down and Trump's the only one saying he'll do it. They know he's full of #### on a lot of stuff, but everything else takes a back seat to that IMO.

What is he gonna do to "tear the whole system down," exactly? Or even approximately? I'd love to see someone list some things about "the system" that they don't like and what they think Trump might do to change them.

I think that wall thing has alot of folks excited.

The wall is going to create a lot of superflous jobs. It's a 2 for 1.

Actually the thing to do is advertise for workers to build the wall. Illegals welcome. Anyone volunteering to help build it, from start to finish, gets to stay.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

Preview of Trump on 60 minutes this Sunday

Pelley: Here you had a bigot -- (talking about the guy that asked the Muslim question)

Trump: You don't know that. I mean, he asked a question. You don't know that he was a bigot. But look.

Trump: Well, let me ask you this. So he said, "There's a problem in this country and it's Muslims." All right. I love the Muslims. I have many, many friends -- people living in this building, Muslims. They're phenomenal people. But like everything else you have people where there are problems. Now we could say there are no problems with the Muslims. There's no problems. There's no terrorism. There's no problems. There's no anything. They didn't knock down the World Trade Center. To the best of my knowledge the people that knocked down the World Trade Center -- you know where they're -- they didn't fly back to Sweden.

another one

Pelley: Why so thin-skinned?

Trump: I don't like lies. I don't mind a bad story. If you did a bad story on me for 60 Minutes, if it were a fair story I wouldn't be thin-skinned at all. You know, some of the media is among the worst people I've ever met. I mean a pretty good percentage is really a terrible group of people. They write lies, they write false stories. They know they're false. It makes no difference. And frankly I don't call it thin skinned, I'm angry.

 

[Eminence]

It's going to be great watching Fox News apologize to Donald. Then you will all see the master negotiator he really is.

 

[Eminence]

This sort of hypocrisy piled on top of this sort of stupidity won't matter. Trump supporters really are that stupid.

I don't think it's stupidity -- they just want to tear the whole system down and Trump's the only one saying he'll do it. They know he's full of #### on a lot of stuff, but everything else takes a back seat to that IMO.

What is he gonna do to "tear the whole system down," exactly? Or even approximately? I'd love to see someone list some things about "the system" that they don't like and what they think Trump might do to change them.

I think that wall thing has alot of folks excited.

The wall is going to create a lot of superflous jobs. It's a 2 for 1.

Exactly! We're gonna have more jobs than we need. That's why wages will go out. It's supply and demand. If you have less workers for the same amount of jobs, wages up.

Don't you get it? If you reduce the population, you help everyone. You also end up with a surplus of food. It will be great and will reenerize our lives and industry. The best part? We welcome all the non-criminals back, legally.

 

[Eminence]

Not to mention, crime will go down.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeFYFADNng Donald Trump Oklahoma State Fair Speech

 

[squistion]

Greta Van Susteren @greta

Conservative crowd boos Trump for calling Rubio a clown http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-booed-calls-marco-rubio-clown-214069

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

Greta Van Susteren @greta

Conservative crowd boos Trump for calling Rubio a clown http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-booed-calls-marco-rubio-clown-214069

Frank Luntz: I’m the last person you’d expect to defend Donald Trump, but these sound like boos of agreement, not against him.

 

[squistion]

Greta Van Susteren @greta

Conservative crowd boos Trump for calling Rubio a clown http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-booed-calls-marco-rubio-clown-214069

Frank Luntz: Im the last person youd expect to defend Donald Trump, but these sound like boos of agreement, not against him.

Doesn't sound like it in the video:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-marco-rubio-clown-comment

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/professors-confess-trump-likely-jeb-win-2016/

Donald Trump has a better shot at the presidency than Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and is just as likely to win the 2016 election as Jeb Bush, say two embarrassed political scientists.

From their article they concluded http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/09/25/if-republicans-nominate-a-strong-conservative-it-could-hurt-them-on-election-day-a-lot/
that Donald Trump “has a 54 percent chance of being elected president if he is the GOP nominee… [and] he is as electable as [Jeb] Bush and [John] Kasich and more electable than [Carly] Fiorina and [Marco] Rubio.”

one recent poll showed Trump getting 25 percent of the African-American vote. If that proves true late next summer, he’ll have the election in the bag because it would produce a six-point shift in the final result. The same poll showed him well ahead in the midwest, which is the GOP’s only path to victory in 2016

What’s powering this support? It is almost surely Trump’s ability to win GOP and Democratic votes in the blue-collar suburbs by his championing Americans and by shunning elite preferences.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

Doesn't sound like it in the video:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-marco-rubio-clown-comment

Sounds like they are booing Rubio the same way they boo'd Karl Rove when trump mentioned him.

(Trump is dominating Rubio in the polls, so you're probably right that they were booing Trump for him lol)

 

[urbanhack]

Doesn't sound like it in the video:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-marco-rubio-clown-comment

Sounds like they are booing Rubio the same way they boo'd Karl Rove when trump mentioned him.

OH....OK. Trump was talking #### and got called out on it.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

They are definitely booing Rubio, listened to it a few times. If you want to push some kind of agenda like the media and say they were booing Trump that is fine, I won't agree with it though.

Even Frank Luntz who HATES Trump agrees.

 

[squistion]

Doesn't sound like it in the video:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-marco-rubio-clown-comment

Sounds like they are booing Rubio the same way they boo'd Karl Rove when trump mentioned him.(Trump is dominating Rubio in the polls, so you're probably right that they were booing Trump for him lol)

Dominating in the polls would be irrelevant to the audience of conservatives activists he was speaking to. And he had been well received by the crowd earlier in the day, but most observers (except Luntz) felt the crowd here was booing Trump, for his characterization of Rubio.

 

[urbanhack]

They are definitely booing Rubio, listened to it a few times. If you want to push some kind of agenda like the media and say they were booing Trump that is fine, I won't agree with it though.

Even Frank Luntz who HATES Trump agrees.

Sure thing, worst alias ever.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

The spin on this boo thing just tells me the lobbyists are pissing their pants right now.

 

[urbanhack]

The spin on this boo thing just tells me the lobbyists are pissing their pants right now.

Yea, this is the crucial moment.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPyJwztUEAAoB6L.jpg:large crowd for Trump @ Oklahoma - Media: "Ten people show up for Trump and he is really struggling in all the latest polls"(hint: he is leading)

 

[Leviathan]

I brought my Bible! Vote for me!

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

https://instagram.com/p/8E5dKNGhYs/This chart combines the latest opinion polls and is updated whenever a new poll is released.

realdonaldtrump An updated POLL tracker (with all polls thru the weekend) reveals I maintained a double digit lead at 34.8%. Not only that, my poll #'s are double that of 2nd place candidate.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://public.media.foxnews.com/2015/09/25/092415_tkf_stonelink_WMPG4.mp4roger stone talking Trump on Megyn Kelly

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwmo7Uamfg4

Donald Trump is the only one that has the balls to hit a home run for the American People

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

September 25, 2015: GOP Presidential candidate and front-runner Donald Trump delivers remarks at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C. The annual gathering of social conservatives is hosted by the Family Research Council.

https://youtu.be/f6AxQvqISek?t=0s Trump killed it

Overwhelming support in the comment section too.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/dont-expect-a-truce-in-the-trumpfox-news-war.html

"Ailes friend told me today: “Roger can’t turn back. The entire credibility of Fox as powerbroker rests on Trump being destroyed.”

So apparently Trump wasn't crazy or whining, foxnews WAS trying to destroy him.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/uploads/profile/photo-61000.jpg?_r=1442634988<-- That is not a picture of James Brown