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brohan there is no chance that he will win wi remember he lost ugly here to cruise and almost to kasich and he attacked walker and the r party and talk radio here hate him they are actively advocating for a third party on conservative talk radio here i heard it over lunch i have seen stranger things i guess but i do not see it happenin in scanny bromigo take that to the bank 
Our bromigo here is correct IMO.  Wisconsin is not in play for Trump, or if it is it's because we're talking about an epic blowout.

Florida is the key for Trump. It's his first stepping stone. He doesn't win the election if he wins Florida, but he almost certainly loses the election if he doesn't. There's pretty much no path to a win without Florida.

 
Michigan and Pennsylvania haven't voted Republican in a national election since 1988, and almost 40% of Florida's population is black or Hispanic.  You genuinely believe that these states are all going to be won by Trump?   :lmao:
Trump's message resonates most in the Industrial rust belt of the Midwest where manufacturing jobs have been decimated due to Nafta, etc..  A lot of people are talking about this as his most likely path to victory.  It's going to be difficult but it's certainly not impossible.  Trump has already taken in a lot of Democrats and more will follow.  In the Primary season Republican numbers were up 65% and Democrat numbers were down 20%.  Get ready to hear a new phrase - Trump Democrats.

On top of that I think it's highly likely his VP pick is going to be someone from this area.  My bet is Senator Rob Portman from Ohio.

 
You asked I responded. You can laugh all you want. You all laughed and never thought he would get this far. Florida is chock full of Blue headed old people. Michigan and Pennsylvania are tired of watching their manufacturing jobs being outsourced.
Yeah, you're right.  You provided a serious response.  Sorry for being a #####.  FWIW I don't think that Florida is a lock for the Democrats.  It's a demographically weird state full of old people, as you mentioned.  I do think that the racial / ethnic diversity in Florida make it a huge uphill battle for Trump, though.  Michigan and Pennsylvania are pretty much out of reach for any Republican at this point, realistically.

To win, Trump needs to hugely boost himself with women and minorities, and I don't see how he can do that in the face of the material he's put out there that can be recycled into short sound bytes of him saying some really offensive stuff about those groups.

 
Trump's message resonates most in the Industrial rust belt of the Midwest where manufacturing jobs have been decimated due to Nafta, etc..  A lot of people are talking about this as his most likely path to victory.  It's going to be difficult but it's certainly not impossible.  Trump has already taken in a lot of Democrats and more will follow.  In the Primary season Republican numbers were up 65% and Democrat numbers were down 20%.  Get ready to hear a new phrase - Trump Democrats.

On top of that I think it's highly likely his VP pick is going to be someone from this area.  My bet is Senator Rob Portman from Ohio.
I'm guessing that you are referring to that US News & World Report poll here?  Might want to read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/10/that-survey-showing-20-percent-of-democrats-backing-trump-come-on/.  Plus, turnout from actual conservatives for Trump is going to be much lower than it would for an actually remotely conservative candidate.  And again, women might be a pretty big problem for him, eh?

 
Trump finds a woman, conservative type that isn't bat#### and can actually stand him and he can win this whole thing :shudder:
But who?  Actual real conservatives aren't going to go anywhere near him based on his policy positions.  And anyone that wants a future politically will have to think long and hard about how realistic his chances are and what attaching themselves to him will mean career-wise moving forward.

His VP pick will end up being some experienced retread with nothing to lose.

 
Yeah, you're right.  You provided a serious response.  Sorry for being a #####.  FWIW I don't think that Florida is a lock for the Democrats.  It's a demographically weird state full of old people, as you mentioned.  I do think that the racial / ethnic diversity in Florida make it a huge uphill battle for Trump, though.  Michigan and Pennsylvania are pretty much out of reach for any Republican at this point, realistically.

To win, Trump needs to hugely boost himself with women and minorities, and I don't see how he can do that in the face of the material he's put out there that can be recycled into short sound bytes of him saying some really offensive stuff about those groups.
I think the key to his nomination is going to be his running mate. If he goes with the Governor of N.M. Susanna Martinez. I think he would really help his cause.

 
But who?  Actual real conservatives aren't going to go anywhere near him based on his policy positions.  And anyone that wants a future politically will have to think long and hard about how realistic his chances are and what attaching themselves to him will mean career-wise moving forward.

His VP pick will end up being some experienced retread with nothing to lose.
Susanna Martinez was a Democrat before she was a Republican...

 
Trump's message resonates most in the Industrial rust belt of the Midwest where manufacturing jobs have been decimated due to Nafta, etc..  A lot of people are talking about this as his most likely path to victory.  It's going to be difficult but it's certainly not impossible.  Trump has already taken in a lot of Democrats and more will follow.  In the Primary season Republican numbers were up 65% and Democrat numbers were down 20%.  Get ready to hear a new phrase - Trump Democrats.

On top of that I think it's highly likely his VP pick is going to be someone from this area.  My bet is Senator Rob Portman from Ohio.
He already said no

Side note- that Ohio senate race sounds like something else.  My condolences to anyone who is gonna have to sit through the next six months of campaign ads in that state.

 
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I think the key to his nomination is going to be his running mate. If he goes with the Governor of N.M. Susanna Martinez. I think he would really help his cause.
We say this every year and about every single candidate on both sides and it really never ends up mattering all that much in the end.

 
But who?  Actual real conservatives aren't going to go anywhere near him based on his policy positions.  And anyone that wants a future politically will have to think long and hard about how realistic his chances are and what attaching themselves to him will mean career-wise moving forward.

His VP pick will end up being some experienced retread with nothing to lose.
No clue if they'd do it but a Condi Rice, Nikki Haley or the New Mexico Gov Martinez. I don't follow closely enough to know who else is out there.

 
I think the key to his nomination is going to be his running mate. If he goes with the Governor of N.M. Susanna Martinez. I think he would really help his cause.
Personally I think he'd be better off trying to woo actual conservatives by picking an experienced retired Republican Senator or Congressman with some foreign policy chops.  He can't undo the damage with Latinos at this point with a VP choice IMO.

 
Yeah, you're right.  You provided a serious response.  Sorry for being a #####.  FWIW I don't think that Florida is a lock for the Democrats.  It's a demographically weird state full of old people, as you mentioned.  I do think that the racial / ethnic diversity in Florida make it a huge uphill battle for Trump, though.  Michigan and Pennsylvania are pretty much out of reach for any Republican at this point, realistically.

To win, Trump needs to hugely boost himself with women and minorities, and I don't see how he can do that in the face of the material he's put out there that can be recycled into short sound bytes of him saying some really offensive stuff about those groups.
If this election cycle holds true, I don't think any state is a lock for any candidate.

The Dems are running such a divisive and unlikable candidate, that what should be a cakewalk against Trump, has now become a coin flip.

I agree with you on Michigan. It would be an uphill battle for Trump to win, but man, after Obama's little stunt yesterday in Flint, there are some angry Democrats there. Some of the interviews last night from Flint residents and their comments about Obama and "I need a glass of water" were scathing.

For Trump to win any percentage of the minority vote, he needs to hammer home the point that things are not getting better for them. Maybe some people are going back to work, but where are the jobs for African Americans in Michigan. Where are your opportunities in Pennsylvania? If he keeps this about jobs and the economy, he can make some hay--now if that will be enough, none of us can pretend to know.  

 
Personally I think he'd be better off trying to woo actual conservatives by picking an experienced retired Republican Senator or Congressman with some foreign policy chops.  He can't undo the damage with Latinos at this point with a VP choice IMO.
the Mexican President came around.   :shrug:

 
Personally I think he'd be better off trying to woo actual conservatives by picking an experienced retired Republican Senator or Congressman with some foreign policy chops.  He can't undo the damage with Latinos at this point with a VP choice IMO.
I'm hoping for Newt Gingrich.  Would love to see the party of family values trot out the rarely seen six-marriage ticket.

 
brohan there is no chance that he will win wi remember he lost ugly here to cruise and almost to kasich and he attacked walker and the r party and talk radio here hate him they are actively advocating for a third party on conservative talk radio here i heard it over lunch i have seen stranger things i guess but i do not see it happenin in scanny bromigo take that to the bank 
Yeah brochach I hear ya, I was just trying to distill the comment above about how Donald would if he could. WI seemed unlikely to me too, so take WI off the board and the Trumpmigos need to find another barrel of EV's.

 
It probably won't help him with Latinos, but it might help with white people who want to support him without seeming like racists.
Yeah, maybe.  IMO that's also kind of a black / white issue too though.  Either you realize that he's a bigot, or you don't.  And if you do, you're either OK with that, or you're not, and running with a minority seems unlikely to change things.  And also, how do his openly racist supporters, and there are a ton of those (no, not all of them), react?

 
He just tweeted a photo of himself eating a taco bowl with a caption including "I love Hispanics" 

 
I hope our bromigo swc is selected to moderate at least one of the general election debates, take that to the bank brochachos.

-QG

 
Florida is in play for trump. Yes, Trump will most likely lose the Hispanic Vote. They vote 75/25 D/R. Even George W. Bush only won 44% of the vote. However, this does not matter. Trump does not need CO, NV or NM to win the presidency. CA, AZ and TX are not swing states. So the only Hispanic vote that matters is in FL. From what I understand that state is mostly LEGAL Cubans and Puerto Ricans, not Mexicans. To reiterate the Mexican vote will not be a factor in the general election.

 
Florida is in play for trump. Yes, Trump will most likely lose the Hispanic Vote. They vote 75/25 D/R. Even George W. Bush only won 44% of the vote. However, this does not matter. Trump does not need CO, NV or NM to win the presidency. CA, AZ and TX are not swing states. So the only Hispanic vote that matters is in FL. From what I understand that state is mostly LEGAL Cubans and Puerto Ricans, not Mexicans. To reiterate the Mexican vote will not be a factor in the general election.
This is true and a pretty good point. 

I think the difficulty for Trump regarding those legal Cubans are also: (1) friendly to the idea of desperate people seeking a better life here, and (2) Catholic and thus generally not too fond of people who pick fights with the pope. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

With respect to Puerto Rico, Trump's bigger problem may be the R next to his name on the ballot, if the Rs in Congress don't get their #### together and pass the Puerto Rico funding legislation soon. Also kind of interesting to consider Trump being hamstrung by his connection to the party considering the conventional wisdom is vice versa.

 
- Worth a bump.

Trump campaign announces national finance chairman with ties to Wall Street and Democrats


... Mnuchin's profile in particular as a Wall Street businessman — he is chairman and CEO of a hedge fund in New York and was once a partner at Goldman Sachs — cuts against that anti-elite image, casting a spotlight on the tricky messaging the campaign faces as it turns to an expensive general election fight.

...But Mnuchin’s political allegiances may also raise eyebrows among Trump’s critics in the Republican Party, who have remained skeptical of the mogul’s conservative bona fides.

A review of Mnuchin's past political donations shows that he has donated to Republican and Democratic politicians alike, according to OpenSecrets.org.

In addition to donating to 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) and the Republican National Committee, Mnuchin has also donated to: then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.); then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.); 2000 Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore; 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry; Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.); and former Senate majority leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), among others.


...FEC records show that over the course of 18 years, beginning with a $500 donation to Democrat Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign in 1998, Mnuchin has made $68,300 in campaign contributions.

Eighty-five percent, or $57,800 of which has gone to Democratic candidates in gubernatorial, senatorial and presidential races. ...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2590486

 
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Look, a lot of right-leaning folks just spent eight years shouting into the wind the exact same stuff about Obama. "He's lying when he says 'If you like your plan, you can keep it'," they said, over and over, and no one listened then. Then they figured out why. We all knew Obama was lying when he said that stuff. It was just rhetoric, too. Just stuff to say to put out the image that he wanted to portray, to stake out a position. Everyone (well, everyone except the rabid Obama-lovers who were willfully ignorant and had the blinders on) knew Obama was lying. Everyone knew it wouldn't happen.

Everyone knows all the stuff the politicians say is lies. Obama lied about everything in both campaigns and then just did whatever he wanted. Railed against Guantanamo then filled it right back up and keeps it going strong. Promised transparency then kept everything from detainment orders down to the White House visitor logs top secret.
Sounds like you want your own Obama.

 
He just tweeted a photo of himself eating a taco bowl with a caption including "I love Hispanics" 
"Whether its cleaning the floors of Trump Tower or picking the ingredients for this taco bowl that I wont eat, there is nothing Hispanics cant do. Great people, really, the best."

 
He just tweeted a photo of himself eating a taco bowl with a caption including "I love Hispanics" 

I shared it on my Facebook, it's fantastic.

http://s32.postimg.org/47yoj9gn9/image.jpg
Some comments on Twitter:

Danny O'Dwyer@dannyodwyer 2h2 hours ago

@realDonaldTrump C'mon man, even your Mexican food has a wall.
Donna BrazileVerified account @donnabrazile 28m28 minutes ago


Got to luv this photo. Donald Trump kicks off his Hispanic voter outreach with a delicious Cinco de Mayo taco bowl
President Trump@Writeintrump 1h1 hour ago

In honor of #CincoDeMayo, the Mexican Cooks at El Polo Loco didn't put broken glass in my Taco Bowl. Thanks guys!



Nate Silver@NateSilver538 2h2 hours ago


No, I didn't predict that the Republican Party would lose its ####### mind.




 
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