Official Donald Trump for President thread (2 Viewers)

[Lutherman2112]

IRONIC

You keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means.

 

[Card Trader]

You keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means.

You meant to quote Sho, right?  

 

[Loan Sharks]

Did he not lie, repeatedly?

No.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Why do you hate helping veterans?

A better question is who's crappy alias is tonelock. My guess is one of the OCD kids who is frustrated that he was ignored by everyone. 

 

[Loan Sharks]

Come to think of it we haven't seen any whining Tofu around here lately and tone lock if a awfully whiney and condescending. I mean I am not really surprised some crat would whip out a junk alias because attacking a man for raising millions of dollars for charity is even too preposterous for them. 

 

[sho nuff]

The haters have no clue that condemning a man for raising over 5 million for vets is going to have the opposite effect of which they think. More voters heading Big Don's way. Keep bashing haters you are doing your part to increase his voting base.

You all keep repeating this false narrative.  Man, that Trump kool-aid is strong.

 

[sho nuff]

Come to think of it we haven't seen any whining Tofu around here lately and tone lock if a awfully whiney and condescending. I mean I am not really surprised some crat would whip out a junk alias because attacking a man for raising millions of dollars for charity is even too preposterous for them. 

We all know Trump fans hate alias accounts.  You are all on your original IDs here.

 

[timschochet]

Still haven't seen any evidence that Trump was criticized for raising money for veterans. He was criticized for his motives (fair) for not following through until he was pushed to do so (perhaps fair). But for the act itself neither Sho Nuff nor anyone else here has ripped him so far as I can see. Personally I praised him for it. So once again several of you are painting a false narrative IMO. 

 

[tone1oc]

A better question is who's crappy alias is tonelock. My guess is one of the OCD kids who is frustrated that he was ignored by everyone. 

Come to think of it we haven't seen any whining Tofu around here lately and tone lock if a awfully whiney and condescending. I mean I am not really surprised some crat would whip out a junk alias because attacking a man for raising millions of dollars for charity is even too preposterous for them. 

Loan Sharks' psycho babble conspiracy about me has me feeling good about posting in FFA.  I will have to wander over here more often.  
 

 

[Loan Sharks]

Loan Sharks' psycho babble conspiracy about me has me feeling good about posting in FFA.  I will have to wonder over here more often.  
 

That you Tofu? 

 

[tone1oc]

That you Tofu? 

 You got me.

Or maybe not.    I'm not sure.  

 

[cstu]

Trump, 800-Pound Media Gorilla, Pounds His Chest at Reporters

By JAMES PONIEWOZIKMAY 31, 2016

At a news conference in Trump Tower on Tuesday morning, the presumptive Republican nominee Donald J. Trump shared his thoughts about the political press and Harambe, the gorilla that Cincinnati Zoo officials shot and killed after a small child wandered into his enclosure.

Mr. Trump had nicer things to say about the gorilla.

The news conference — which Mr. Trump called to defend himself over questions about fund-raising for veterans’ charities — was a textbook example of the candidate’s need to devour media attention and deplore it at the same time.

The offense reporters committed this time: asking whether the money he said he had raised at a January benefit — organized in place of a Fox News debate he was skipping — had really made it to the beneficiaries, and if so, how much.

A candidate said he would do a thing; reporters tried to confirm whether he had. (Last week The Washington Post reported that Mr. Trump had not yet made his own donation.) This, to Mr. Trump, was an outrage, an affront, not very nice treatment at all. He said he had not wanted to claim credit for his deeds — which he promoted, allowed to be covered on television and referred to during the campaign — but the nosy press had forced his hand.

So he showed up at the news conference with a list of donations and recipients, as well as a list of grievances. Tom Llamas, a reporter from ABC News, was a “sleaze,” he said; Jim Acosta, of CNN, “a real beauty.”

The event, carried live on the major cable networks, showed how Mr. Trump uses his media omnipresence to control his message. By railing at the questions, he was able to send a headline to voters, repeated on the chyrons — that the candidate raised money for vets — while mostly pushing past questions of when he did it and whether his earlier claims had been truthful at the time he made them.

The reporters pushed back, pressing Mr. Trump not just on the donations but also on his continued attacks against detractors in the Republican Party, on his press-bashing, on whether he is too thin-skinned for the presidency. Mr. Trump, of course, believes that his skin, like all other parts of him, is fine as it is.

And he essentially promised that, should he be elected, this news conference would be a preview of White House press room sessions to come.

Mr. Trump may dish out abuse to the press, but at least he’s a source of constant quotes. His likely fall opponent, Hillary Clinton, is more polite but also more guarded. (Or as a New York magazine profile by Rebecca Traister this week bluntly put it, “Clinton hates the press”— even if she doesn’t pummel them for the cameras.)

This relative silence has helped Mr. Trump dominate airtime and make the news cycle his floor-to-ceiling mirror. Mrs. Clinton has lately tried to fill the vacuum by doing more interviews; Tuesday afternoon, she phoned in, Trump-style, to Jake Tapper on CNN and Chris Hayes on MSNBC. Both of them led their interviews by asking her what she thought of Mr. Trump’s news conference.

Mr. Trump is not the first candidate to bash the news media while craving its attention. He’s just made the contradiction, like everything he builds, bigger and gaudier.

He’s collected, by a New York Times estimate, $2 billion in free media. And he attacks, mocks and threatens news outlets when they aren’t “nice,” building bona fides with a voter base that has been encouraged for decades to see Big Media as the enemy.

He can glad-hand journalists, then turn peevish and furious. The whole impetus for the news conference, remember, was an event he held when he was angry at Fox News. Now he has nothing but nice things to say about Fox News, because he’s sewn up the nomination, and the network has become very, very nice to him.

And then there came the question about Harambe, because it is 2016, and this is what we do now: We ask the reality TV star who may become the leader of the free world how tough he would be on large zoo animals.

It was poetically fitting. For almost a year, Mr. Trump has been the 800-pound gorilla whose unpredictable rampages have obsessed the news media. Now he was completing the circle by commenting on the 400-pound gorilla who briefly stole the spotlight from him for one holiday weekend.

For the record, Mr. Trump said that he thought zoo officials had little choice but to shoot Harambe. But, he added: “There were moments with the gorilla, the way he held that child, it was almost like a mother with a baby. It looked so beautiful and calm. And then there were moments when it looked pretty dangerous.”

So it is with Mr. Trump and the news media, and their volatile symbiosis. Tuesday morning, he was in raging silverback mode, glowering, posturing and verbally dragging the press around his gilded Manhattan lair.

But viewed from another vantage point, it can look as if he were holding them very close.

 

[cstu]

Unsealed playbooks for Trump University reps reveal officials used questionable tactics to sign up students and charge them thousands for tuition

Objection: I don't like using my credit cards and going into debt OR I just paid my credit cards off," the playbook explains in one hypothetical scenario.

The playbook then directs the Trump University rep to respond with the following script:

"I see, do you like living paycheck to paycheck? Do you like just getting by in life? Do you enjoy seeing everyone else but yourself in their dream house and driving their cars with huge checking accounts? Those people saw an opportunity, and didn't make excuses, like what you're doing now. Most wealthy people made their money in real estate and it usually started with a decision to get the knowledge and skills to be successful. You need to look at what this small investment will fix in your life. … You're here today because you're sick and tired of being sick and tired and you want to chance that — you're not alone. I'm going to help you take your first step to create the life you've dreamed of. Follow me and let's get you enrolled. Congratulations!"

 

[3C's]

That's Dem thinking. Using the vets as A tool in politics.The vets don't support the Dems, it's that simple.

It is? You act like they some faceless group who can't think independently.   They lean more GOP than nonvets but it's fairly close.

Enlisted lean more liberal while officers are typically conservatives

 

[bueno]

Which is what he was being criticized for...along with it being more about pandering to them to avoid Kelly and the debate.

It wasn't about him being great towards vets...that was always secondary (if not further down the line) in his motives.  And that is fair game for criticism.

I wish I could read minds....

 

[sho nuff]

I wish I could read minds....

No need to read minds.

You think he avoided the debate because he really felt a need to help vets?

Or, he felt he would be attacked, didn't want that, knew he would be called out for it, and thought the best way to save face was hold a charity event for vets (who he has not supported charitably all that much in his life)?

 

[dickey moe]

Trump: "So did you hear what this little limey freak in the wheelchair had to say about me?"

Crowd: :yells-roar-of-enthusiastic-applause:

 

[The General]

Be honest how many of you Trumpettes are trusting him with your wallet?

 

[HellToupee]

Be honest how many of you Trumpettes are trusting him with your wallet?

I guess I'd trust him over Crooked Hillary & Bernie . But with politician I'd be concerned 

 

[bueno]

No need to read minds.

You think he avoided the debate because he really felt a need to help vets?

Or, he felt he would be attacked, didn't want that, knew he would be called out for it, and thought the best way to save face was hold a charity event for vets (who he has not supported charitably all that much in his life)?

I think he is a narcissist but a very intelligent one. In fact, I suspect he might be the most intelligent President (if he wins it) since Jimmy Carter (and look how that turned out).

 

[Dexter]

So is your argument that the media isn't doing its job sufficiently? And that they should be better at its job? 

If so, I think that's a legit criticism. But that still doesn't seem to be what Trump is saying. Which is that he wants to sue the media and make it easier to stop it from doing its job.

I'm not Donald Trump so what are you talking about? I'm answering the question with an example of one of the many reasons I (me) (myself) hates the media.

 

[bueno]

Be honest how many of you Trumpettes are trusting him any politician with your wallet?

Fixed

 

[Dexter]

Over 5 million to vets. Only thing that matters in this and only one guy made it happen. 

These idiots are grasping at straws. Tomorrows head line could be Donald Trumps ends homelessness and these turds would cry about how he didn't do enough for world hunger. Mean while they have done NOTHING to help either cause. 

 

[The General]

I guess I'd trust him over Crooked Hillary & Bernie . But with politician I'd be concerned 

Not really the question but I guess you have to pick one to vote for. 

Bernie and Hillary a don't seem concerned with taking your money for themselves. Bernie especially. 

Tump seems like he'd gladly screw you out of your cash on some bad deal and snicker a sucker is born every minute. 

 

[3C's]

Pierson is a special kind of special. Suing TrumpU is like suing Harvard. Oh, and MEXICAN judge!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Not really the question but I guess you have to pick one to vote for. 

Bernie and Hillary a don't seem concerned with taking your money for themselves. Bernie especially. 

Tump seems like he'd gladly screw you out of your cash on some bad deal and snicker a sucker is born every minute. 

Er, Hillary was involved in a shady real estate scam.

 

[The General]

Over 5 million to vets. Only thing that matters in this and only one guy made it happen. 

Just make sure the check clears.

 

[bueno]

Not really the question but I guess you have to pick one to vote for. 

Bernie and Hillary a don't seem concerned with taking your money for themselves. Bernie especially. 

Tump seems like he'd gladly screw you out of your cash on some bad deal and snicker a sucker is born every minute. 

Well Bernie won't take your money unless you have money as I understand him.

 

[Dexter]

Not really the question but I guess you have to pick one to vote for. 

Bernie and Hillary a don't seem concerned with taking your money for themselves. Bernie especially. 

Tump seems like he'd gladly screw you out of your cash on some bad deal and snicker a sucker is born every minute. 

If he did that he wouldn't be in business very long.

 

[The General]

Well Bernie won't take your money unless you have money as I understand him.

Don't think the Berns could be effective and don't agree with a lot of his stuff event though I do like listening to him.

But I trust that guy is absolutely 100% not a crook.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Be honest how many of you Trumpettes are trusting him with your wallet?

Well it is empty after Obama took my $2500 dollars out of it, so there is no downside for me. 

 

[The General]

If he did that he wouldn't be in business very long.

Such an endearing quality. Something I look for in my public officials.

 

[Dexter]

WE HAVE THE BEST VETERANS! DON'T YOU AGREE FOLKS?!?!?!

 

[bigbottom]

If he did that he wouldn't be in business very long.

Well it appears that's sort of why Trump U went out of business. 

 

[bueno]

Don't think the Berns could be effective and don't agree with a lot of his stuff event though I do like listening to him.

But I trust that guy is absolutely 100% not a crook.

I didn't say he would steal your money. Unless you consider high taxes stealing.

 

[The General]

Well it is empty after Obama took my $2500 dollars out of it, so there is no downside for me. 

Not sure what they "took" from you but "Obama" and the government were at least providing services. 

Trump seems like the guy who would take it to buy some gold leaf toilet or some such ####.

 

[The General]

I didn't say he would steal your money. Unless you consider high taxes stealing.

Berns means well even if you don't agree with him.

Trump? Meeeh. Pretty sure his end game when he got into this was to sell Trump brand crap made in China.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Dexter]

Not sure what they "took" from you but "Obama" and the government were at least providing services. 

Trump seems like the guy who would take it to buy some gold leaf toilet or some such ####.

I don't know. Trump seems like the kind of guy to send his private air plane to pick up some stranded marines and get them home.

 

[bueno]

Berns means well even if you don't agree with him.

Trump? Meeeh. Pretty sure his end game when he got into this was to sell Trump brand crap made in China.

Just my 2 cents.

Would help balance the trade deficit.

 

[sho nuff]

I think he is a narcissist but a very intelligent one. In fact, I suspect he might be the most intelligent President (if he wins it) since Jimmy Carter (and look how that turned out).

So, no real answer to what I actually asked?

And no, I suspect he wouldn't be anywhere close to the most intelligent either.

 

[timschochet]

Would help balance the trade deficit.

Absolutely no question in my mind he would make it much worse. 

 

[Dexter]

Berns means well even if you don't agree with him.

Trump? Meeeh. Pretty sure his end game when he got into this was to sell Trump brand crap made in China.

Just my 2 cents.

Bernie can't win the Dem nomination. Hillary has beaten him no mater how you look at it. Yet he's still collecting money and people have the nerve to call Trump sleazy.

 

[The General]

I don't know. Trump seems like the kind of guy to send his private air plane to pick up some stranded marines and get them home.

That was very nice of him. Check to see how much he back billed the Feds for that

 

[The General]

Bernie can't win the Dem nomination. Hillary has beaten him no mater how you look at it. Yet he's still collecting money and people have the nerve to call Trump sleazy.

 Lord.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

That was very nice of him. Check to see how much he back billed the Feds for that

How much?

 

[sho nuff]

Would help balance the trade deficit.

What do you base this on?

 

[Dexter]

That was very nice of him. Check to see how much he back billed the Feds for that

How much did he back bill the feds? 

 

[bueno]

So, no real answer to what I actually asked?

There was more to it at the time - like the massive attempt by the establishment to "Stop Trump." So he said #### off and did something more beneficial to his cause. Net gain for vets and for Trump.

 

[bueno]

What do you base this on?

If we increase exports to China, it helps the trade deficit. If he brings jobs back from overseas, he helps the trade deficit. Is it the best option? I don't know if there is a way to turn the deficit around frankly without having trade wars.

 

[timschochet]

This race is not nearly as close as it seems right now: 

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/627079?unlock=H7TWA2V6N3YWM2D8&mref=homepage-free