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The polling has been so wrong about trump from the beginning and you morons think it's correct now? Sure, Trump who just accumulated the most votes in GOP history is going to to lose in a land slide. Hint: He's going to win.

 
Dexter said:
The polling has been so wrong about trump from the beginning and you morons think it's correct now? Sure, Trump who just accumulated the most votes in GOP history is going to to lose in a land slide. Hint: He's going to win.
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They've been calling for his demise for a year now. Any chest thumping now is laughable.

We get it, YOU'RE not voting Trump. That doesn't disqualify the millions of people who have voted for him to get this far. Plus, the Democrats who will never vote Clinton.

 
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A guy born in Queens NY in 1986 and raised in this country speaks a different language? Native New Yorkers are sometimes hard to understand, but what they speak is English.
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He may have been speaking Pashto, for all we know he was saying:

"Hey, dad, almost done with my errands, what was it you wanted from the supermarket, OJ and what now?"

 
the convention will be amazing. the GOP must be treating him like he's radioactive...

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump only wants “winners” associated with his campaign, and therefore, he only wants “winners” to share the stage with him in Cleveland at the Republican National Convention in July.

So last week, he invited such dignitaries as NFL quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, legendary college basketball coach Bobby Knight, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, UFC president Dana White, and NASCAR CEO Brian France to speak at the convention.
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saintfool said:
i saw that too. seriously, i can't imagine what the convention is going to look like when the GOP rank and file are not supporting him. usually these things are akin to Up With People but this year?
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The roll call is going to be a sight to behold.  

"Ummm...yeah...he's great...50votesfordonaldtrump".  

"I'm sorry, I couldn't make that out.  What did you say?"

"coughdonaldtrumpcough".  

"What?"  

DONALD TRUMP!  I SAID DONALD TRUMP ALRIGHT!  NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STATE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!"  

 
Dexter said:
The polling has been so wrong about trump from the beginning and you morons think it's correct now? Sure, Trump who just accumulated the most votes in GOP history is going to to lose in a land slide. Hint: He's going to win.
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Thanks for the hint.  I really wasn't sure what you were going for here.

 
Dexter said:
The polling has been so wrong about trump from the beginning and you morons think it's correct now? Sure, Trump who just accumulated the most votes in GOP history is going to to lose in a land slide. Hint: He's going to win.
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No, the polling has been very accurate. From the moment he entered the race, he was way ahead on the Republican side. A lot of people (myself included) figured that wouldn't last, but it did. The polls, however, were very accurate. They consistently showed him winning. 

Now, they consistently show him behind. 

 
timschochet said:
No, the polling has been very accurate. From the moment he entered the race, he was way ahead on the Republican side. A lot of people (myself included) figured that wouldn't last, but it did. The polls, however, were very accurate. They consistently showed him winning. 

Now, they consistently show him behind. 
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You expect Dexter to  be worried about facts?

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I find this persuasive:

Donald Trump is openly sexist. We know this because every article about him prominently declares that he is "openly sexist" or "openly misogynist" in precisely those words. Trump is openly misogynist. Trump is openly misogynist. Trump is openly misogynist. Trump shows blatant misogyny. Trump is openly sexist. Trump is openly sexist and gross.

But if you try to look for him being openly anything, the first quote anyone mentions is the one where he says Megyn Kelly has blood coming out of her "wherever." As somebody who personally ends any list of more than three items with "… and whatever," I may be more inclined than most to believe his claim that no anatomical reference was intended. But even if he was in fact talking about her anatomy – the comment is crude, stupid, puerile, offensive, gross, inappropriate, and whatever. But sexist?

When I think of "sexist" or "misogynist," I think of somebody who thinks women are inferior to men, or who hates women, or who thinks women shouldn't be allowed to have good jobs or full human rights, or who wants to disadvantage women relative to men in some way.

This does not seem to apply very well to Trump. It's been remarked several times that his policies are more "pro-women" in the political sense than almost any other Republican candidate in recent history – he defends Planned Parenthood, defends government support for child care, he's flip-flopped to claiming he's pro-life but is much less convincing about it than the average Republican. And back before his campaign, he seems to have been genuinely proud of his record as a pro-women employer. From his Art of the Deal, written in the late 1980s (long before he was campaigning):


The person I hired to be my personal representative overseeing the construction, Barbara Res, was the first woman ever put in charge of a skyscraper in New York…I'd watched her in construction meetings, and what I liked was that she took no guff from anyone. She was half the size of most of these bruising guys, but she wasn't afraid to tell them off when she had to, and she knew how to get things done.
 
It's funny. My own mother was a housewife all her life. And yet it's turned out that I've hired a lot of women for top jobs, and they've been among my best people. Often, in fact, they are far more effective than the men around them. Louise Sunshine, who was an executive vice president in my company for ten years, was as relentless a fighter as you'll ever meet. Blanche Sprague, the executive vice president who handles all sales and oversses the interior design of my buildings, is one of the best salespeople and managers I've ever met. Norma Foerderer, my executive assistant, is sweet and charming and very classy, but she's steel underneath, and people who think she can be pushed around find out very quickly that they're mistaken.



There have since been a bunch of news reports on how Trump was (according to the Washington Post) "ahead of his time in providing career advancement for women" and how "while some say he could be boorish, his companies nurtured and promoted women in an otherwise male-dominated industry." According to internal (i.e., hard-to-confirm) numbers, his organization is among the few that have more female than male executives.

Meanwhile, when I check out sites like Women Hold Up Signs With Donald Trump's Most Sexist Quotes, the women are holding up signs with quotes like "A person who is flat-chested is very hard to be a 10" (yes, he actually said that). This is undeniably boorish. But are we losing something when we act as if "boorish" and "sexist" are the same thing? Saying "Donald Trump is openly boorish" doesn't have the same kind of ring to it.

If Trump thinks women aren't attractive without big breasts, then his kink is not my kink but his kink is okay. If Trump is dumb enough to say out loud that he thinks women aren't attractive without big breasts, that says certain things about his public relations ability and his dignity-or-lack-thereof, but it sounds like it requires a lot more steps to suggest he is a bad person, or unqualified for anything, or would have an administration which is bad for women, or anything that we should actually care about.

(If you're going to bring up "objectification," then at least you have some sort of theory for how this tenuously connects, but it doesn't really apply to the Megyn Kelly thing, and anyway, this.)

What bothers me most about this is that word "openly." Donald Trump says a thousand times how much he wants to fight for women and thinks he will be a pro-women president, then makes some comments that some people say reveal an anti-women attitude even though the connection is tenuous, and all of a sudden he's openly sexist? Maybe that word doesn't mean what you think it means.




 
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Donald Trump must be the biggest liar in the history of American politics, and that’s saying something.

Trump lies the way other people breathe. We’re used to politicians who stretch the truth, who waffle or dissemble, who emphasize some facts while omitting others. But I can’t think of any other political figure who so brazenly tells lie after lie, spraying audiences with such a fusillade of untruths that it is almost impossible to keep track.
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GB Eugene Robinson.

 
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Donald Trump must be the biggest liar in the history of American politics, and that’s saying something.

Trump lies the way other people breathe. We’re used to politicians who stretch the truth, who waffle or dissemble, who emphasize some facts while omitting others. But I can’t think of any other political figure who so brazenly tells lie after lie, spraying audiences with such a fusillade of untruths that it is almost impossible to keep track.
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Trump is the Peter North of lying.

 
wdcrob said:
Donald Trump must be the biggest liar in the history of American politics, and that’s saying something.

Trump lies the way other people breathe. We’re used to politicians who stretch the truth, who waffle or dissemble, who emphasize some facts while omitting others. But I can’t think of any other political figure who so brazenly tells lie after lie, spraying audiences with such a fusillade of untruths that it is almost impossible to keep track.
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Fact checkers debate the "Trump phenomenon".

Apparently other countries have their Donald Trumps and disagree on the extent to which telling the truth even matters to voters. 

 
Of course it doesn't matter to voters.

All politicians lie.  The good ones do it artfully -- as Robinson describes it above, but likeably and with some subtlety thrown in.  Clinton isn't very likeable or subtle and she leans on them more than some, but her lies are (mostly) not atypical for someone who's been in the political public eye for 25 years.  She's on the extreme end of "normal".  Trump is just in a whole other category.

But at the end of the day it's not costing either of them much support.  Probably less than 5% each.

 
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wdcrob said:
Of course it doesn't matter to voters.

All politicians lie.  The good ones do it artfully -- as Robinson describes it above, but likeably and with some subtlety thrown in.  Clinton isn't very likeable or subtle and she leans on them more than some, but her lies are (mostly) not atypical for someone who's been in the political public eye for 25 years.  She's on the extreme end of "normal".  Trump is just in a whole other category.

But at the end of the day it's not costing either of them much support.  Probably less than 5% each.
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Eh I don't know about it not costing them support. They both have extremely high unfavorable numbers - the highest ever - and their main advantage right now is running against each other. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Eh I don't know about it not costing them support. They both have extremely high unfavorable numbers - the highest ever - and their main advantage right now is running against each other. 
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Sure... but the end vote wouldn't move more than 10% either way if they were both 100% truthful all the time IMO.  All else being equal.  

80-90% of people care more about policy (broadly speaking) and what the parties stand for generally than they care about anything else.  The fact that Trump is losing some of those people is telling.  And the fact that Hillary doesn't appear to be losing very many of them at all sort of proves the point.

 
Dexter said:
The polling has been so wrong about trump from the beginning and you morons think it's correct now? Sure, Trump who just accumulated the most votes in GOP history is going to to lose in a land slide. Hint: He's going to win.
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Two things:

1) The polling wasn't wrong. The prognosticators dismissing the polling were wrong. But the polling was largely correct and it's not during your guy any favors these days.

2) Accumulating the most votes ever in the primary means nothing for the general election. There is no correlation for turnout in the primary vs. turnout in the general. Plus, Trump scored somewhere over 13M votes. That is barely more than 10% of the voter turnout in the 2012 general, which had over 126M voters. I wouldn't hang your hat on his primary support meaning much of anything in November.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
It might not make a difference to everyone, but it could indeed make a difference to any females hoping to be appointed to his Cabinet, or to the federal judiciary, for example.
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I get what you are saying.  Actions speak louder than words, and Trump has a long, demonstratably history of supporting women in the workplace.  That should be more important than when he speaks without the polish of a career politician.  If he says a woman can't be a 10 without big boobs - yeah that's sexist, but its also true (in his opinion...personally, I like 'em smaller but that's neither here nor there).  I think it's very possible to say stupid things like that, and be a champion of woman's causes at the same time.

 
moleculo said:
I get what you are saying.  Actions speak louder than words, and Trump has a long, demonstratably history of supporting women in the workplace.  That should be more important than when he speaks without the polish of a career politician.  If he says a woman can't be a 10 without big boobs - yeah that's sexist, but its also true (in his opinion...personally, I like 'em smaller but that's neither here nor there).  I think it's very possible to say stupid things like that, and be a champion of woman's causes at the same time.
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I don't care how many women he hires. What I care about, in terms of this issue, is that he has given a list of Supreme Court justices he will appoint, and all of them are of an extreme conservative variety. Currently a woman's right to an abortion is being eroded on a state level (particularly in Texas) so this becomes even more important than usual. 

 
timschochet said:
I don't care how many women he hires. What I care about, in terms of this issue, is that he has given a list of Supreme Court justices he will appoint, and all of them are of an extreme conservative variety. Currently a woman's right to an abortion is being eroded on a state level (particularly in Texas) so this becomes even more important than usual. 
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Someone on his staff went and googled names, seriously. The guy is mostly interested in someone who will confirm his own powers and grant him his whims like restricting the first amendment. Which I would call neither conservative nor liberal. I wouldn't even be surprised if he picks a non-judge or if he tries to pack the court. If you're for the vast expansion of the imperial presidency, then you will love his USSC picks.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Someone on his staff went and googled names, seriously. The guy is mostly interested in someone who will confirm his own powers and grant him his whims like restricting the first amendment. Which I would call neither conservative nor liberal.
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Just curious - assuming Donald/Shrill, who are you voting for?

 
timschochet said:
If I lived where you do, I'd vote for Dr. John. 
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Hey I've seen the man and I wouldn't let him drive a scooter. I may write in, and we always have a host of oddballs on the ballot here, but I will more likely at least try and pretend like I am voting for president. Having said that I think there's a shot LA goes blue.

eta - Thinking about this some more, I may get a couple beers or take a couple shots of something before I go vote, I may need to be buzzed to do this.

 
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He Likes to Keep “a Fat Guy” Around

“There was a fat contestant who was a buffoon and a ####up,” recalls the midlevel producer. “And he would #### up week after week, and the producers would figure that he’d screwed up so badly that Trump would have to fire him. But Trump kept deciding to fire someone else. The producers had to scramble because of course Trump can never be seen to make a bad call on the show, so we had to re-engineer the footage to make a different contestant look bad. Later, I heard a producer talk to him, and Trump said, ‘Everybody loves a fat guy. People will watch if you have a funny fat guy around. Trust me, it’s good for ratings.’ I look at Chris Christie now and I swear that’s what’s happening.”
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