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Gr00vus said:
Yeah, #### this guy. And #### everyone who's enabled him to get this far.

I just spent too much of my time arguing with friend Funke about how corrupt I think the Clintons are, and I'm still very likely to vote for HRC just to hopefully help send some kind of message to Deranged Donnie and all his misguided minions that he and they will never represent me or my country. I'd rather vote for a candidate that's pretty odious on her own merits than allow such a monstrously messed up person to be President. Patriotism is not voting for this clod. You don't have to vote for HRC, but you just can't vote for this guy.
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This. I don't like Hillary, around 60% of the country views her unfavorably which is deserved and an awful statistic for her. But sorry Donnie, you have got to go.

 
irishidiot said:
Lot of pent up frustration here.   I thought Hillary was a lock?
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It's got nothing to do with HRC. It's got everything to do with preventing a dangerously unqualified person from gaining the Presidency. See this man for what he is. This isn't Romney vs. Obama where we can muddle through with whichever one comes out on top. This guy is advocating for the dark ages here. Whether intentionally or not, he's going to #### up this planet to monumental proportions if he gets in. It's debatable whether the damage he'd cause would be reparable, but there will be serious damage.

 
Guys, the system is clearly broken and the only guy we can safely say will not abuse the system to personally enrich himself is Donald J Trump.

 
Why can we say that?  And who cares about politicians personally enriching themselves when we have so much else to worry about that has an actual impact on our actual lives?

 
Gr00vus said:
It's got everything to do with preventing a dangerously unqualified person from gaining the Presidency. See this man for what he is. This guy is advocating for the dark ages here. Whether intentionally or not, he's going to #### up this planet to monumental proportions if he gets in. It's debatable whether the damage he'd cause would be reparable, but there will be serious damage.
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Wow, this sounds exactly like my Obama schtick.  Good job

 
Statorama said:
Of course, when it's "your guy" it's completely invalidated.
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:lmao:  at any attempt to compare Trump with any past candidate on either side in US history. He's an effing reality TV star who wants to spread nukes around to other countries and default on the national debt. He's completely ignorant on virtually every issue, and a total moron. And he's a bigot. Economic and foreign policy experts on both sides have universally condemned his policy ideas. HTH.

 
Ignoramus said:
Guys, the system is clearly broken and the only guy we can safely say will not abuse the system to personally enrich himself is Donald J Trump.
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Actually this may be accurate. He'll certainly try. But given his history it is questionable at best whether he would succeed. Trump 2016!

 
Gr00vus said:
I wonder what support for either of these candidates would be like if there were no parties. Partisanship has become a painful affliction in this country for this election. If Trump was running the exact same campaign but as a Democrat, I can't imagine there'd be many Republicans voting for him. Similarly with HRC. Our electoral framework is flat out busted. Couldn't give us even one palatable candidate this election. We're getting it with both fists this time. If I'm mad about anything, this is it. Upsets me to no end that enough people aren't smart enough to see past party affiliation or abandon the political machines behind them and thus we're stuck with these dirt bags.
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The political party system is a cesspool today 

 
Coeur de Lion said:
:lmao:  at any attempt to compare Trump with any past candidate on either side in US history. He's an effing reality TV star who wants to spread nukes around to other countries and default on the national debt. He's completely ignorant on virtually every issue, and a total moron. And he's a bigot. Economic and foreign policy experts on both sides have universally condemned his policy ideas. HTH.
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People forget that Obama was wholly unqualified to be President at the time of his election.  While he's done significant long-term damage to the country and it's residents, it's not irreparable.  It will be the same if Trump is elected.

In the next cycle, we need to elect a boring accountant as President, not some cult of personality dud like Obama or Trump.

 
Statorama said:
People forget that Obama was wholly unqualified to be President at the time of his election.  While he's done significant long-term damage to the country and it's residents, it's not irreparable.  It will be the same if Trump is elected.

In the next cycle, we need to elect a boring accountant as President, not some cult of personality dud like Obama or Trump.
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This is pure schtick, right?

 
Statorama said:
People forget that Obama was wholly unqualified to be President at the time of his election.  While he's done significant long-term damage to the country and it's residents, it's not irreparable.  It will be the same if Trump is elected.

In the next cycle, we need to elect a boring accountant as President, not some cult of personality dud like Obama or Trump.
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Obama has been a solid President you doofus. Behind only Reagan in the last 50 years or so.

 
Statorama said:
People forget that Obama was wholly unqualified to be President at the time of his election.  While he's done significant long-term damage to the country and it's residents, it's not irreparable.  It will be the same if Trump is elected.

In the next cycle, we need to elect a boring accountant as President, not some cult of personality dud like Obama or Trump.
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It's amazing to me that anyone could write this but I am reminded now that you were a huge Sarah Palin fan and also a fan of that Tea Party witch woman. So I'm not surprised. 

 
timschochet said:
It's amazing to me that anyone could write this but I am reminded now that you were a huge Sarah Palin fan and also a fan of that Tea Party witch woman. So I'm not surprised. 
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I was a little disappointed that Palin didn't use the gravitas she had at the time to improve herself and take on a more prominent political role.  Ultimately she was just satisfied cashing in on what she was.  What a waste.

Obama WAS unqualified.  He'd never run anything ever.  No executive experience to speak of, and it showed during his Presidency.  He's a terrible person, and he's been a disaster as President.  Sorry to shatter your bubble.

Edit to add: While it's a very low bar, I think HRC would have been a better President than Obama these last 8 years. But her time has passed.

 
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Statorama said:
I was a little disappointed that Palin didn't use the gravitas she had at the time to improve herself and take on a more prominent political role.  Ultimately she was just satisfied cashing in on what she was.  What a waste.

Obama WAS unqualified.  He'd never run anything ever.  No executive experience to speak of, and it showed during his Presidency.  He's a terrible person, and he's been a disaster as President.  Sorry to shatter your bubble.
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and, right on queue......

 
Coeur de Lion said:
Obama has been a solid President you doofus. Behind only Reagan in the last 50 years or so.
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I would argue only Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter were demonstrably worse. Nixon's presidency ended poorly, but he got more good accomplished than Obama ever did. One can flip a coin on GHW and Gerald Ford. (The reason I don't put W below Obama is that he did act decisively when we were attacked - something I'm not convinced Obama would have done.)

 
bueno said:
I would argue only Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter were demonstrably worse. Nixon's presidency ended poorly, but he got more good accomplished than Obama ever did. One can flip a coin on GHW and Gerald Ford. (The reason I don't put W below Obama is that he did act decisively when we were attacked - something I'm not convinced Obama would have done.)
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And you'd be wrong. Of course you're blindly partisan as well, so...

I somehow missed the fact that you included LBJ in there.  :lmao:  He's universally seen as a good to very good President by both sides. Majority have in in the 2nd quarter of all time with a few sneaking him into the lower part of the top quarter.

And W is universally seen as among the worst ever.

 
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bueno said:
I would argue only Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter were demonstrably worse. Nixon's presidency ended poorly, but he got more good accomplished than Obama ever did. One can flip a coin on GHW and Gerald Ford. (The reason I don't put W below Obama is that he did act decisively when we were attacked - something I'm not convinced Obama would have done.)
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By attacking the wrong country and embroiling us in a war that cost billions of dollars and thousands of American lives.  And all for literally nothing.  But he did act decisively so that's all that matters?

 
Coeur de Lion said:
And you'd be wrong. Of course you're blindly partisan as well, so...
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Nevermind the fact that if Beuno really is tethered to the stock market (which, given is fundamental lack of mining knowledge vis a vis cobalt, I have my doubts), then he should have done spectacularly under Obama's presidency.  His home is worth more today than it was in 2008.  Gays can now proudly serve in the military and celebrate their love in marriage.  Pot is now legal in a handful of states generating great sources of tax revenues.  It's a great time to be alive.

You know who's not alive?  Bin Laden.  The dim-witted "decisive" guy who kowtowed to the religious fundies couldn't do that.  Thanks Obama! 

 
General Malaise said:
Nevermind the fact that if Beuno really is tethered to the stock market (which, given is fundamental lack of mining knowledge vis a vis cobalt, I have my doubts), then he should have done spectacularly under Obama's presidency.  His home is worth more today than it was in 2008.  Gays can now proudly serve in the military and celebrate their love in marriage.  Pot is now legal in a handful of states generating great sources of tax revenues.  It's a great time to be alive.

You know who's not alive?  Bin Laden.  The dim-witted "decisive" guy who kowtowed to the religious fundies couldn't do that.  Thanks Obama! 
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This post disgusts me. I don't even know where to begin.

 
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bueno said:
I would argue only Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter were demonstrably worse. Nixon's presidency ended poorly, but he got more good accomplished than Obama ever did. One can flip a coin on GHW and Gerald Ford. (The reason I don't put W below Obama is that he did act decisively when we were attacked - something I'm not convinced Obama would have done.)
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Acted decisively and started a ridiculous war in Iraq...yeah, it was decisively stupid.

 
Coeur de Lion said:
And you'd be wrong. Of course you're blindly partisan as well, so...

I somehow missed the fact that you included LBJ in there.  :lmao:  He's universally seen as a good to very good President by both sides. Majority have in in the 2nd quarter of all time with a few sneaking him into the lower part of the top quarter.

And W is universally seen as bottom five...
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.  Ask any Trump supporter about LBJ and they will look at you confused until you explain to them that the LBJ was president during the Civil Right Act - then watch them foam at the mouth.

 
Eminence said:
This post disgusts me. I don't even know where to begin.
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How about you begin with the fact that I'm right and you're wrong.  Almost always a good spot for you to start.  Plus, you were like 8 when GW was in office, so you have no clue, which again, is par for the course.

You want out of our bet yet?  Let you out for $45 today.

 
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