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The Rs are ragging on Chicago because murders have increased there this year, but really because the Obamas and Hillary Clinton have so much history with the city.  If Chicago is a disaster, then the Obamas and Hillary are a disaster, too.

 
African-Americans are generally much more likely to agree with the admittedly vague "Is the country headed in the right direction" polling than white Americans.

I don't think Republicans ever grasp how enormously sensitive black Americans are to voter suppression efforts. After a century of being systematically denied the fundamental basic right of voting, any attempt to negate the gains in that area are going to be met with hostility. Why don't Republicans start supporting more inclusive voting policies? That's got to be a better tactic than holding a figurative gun to black voters' heads and saying "ok, start voting for us and we'll stop trying to take away your voting rights."

 
roadkill1292 said:
African-Americans are generally much more likely to agree with the admittedly vague "Is the country headed in the right direction" polling than white Americans.

I don't think Republicans ever grasp how enormously sensitive black Americans are to voter suppression efforts. After a century of being systematically denied the fundamental basic right of voting, any attempt to negate the gains in that area are going to be met with hostility. Why don't Republicans start supporting more inclusive voting policies? That's got to be a better tactic than holding a figurative gun to black voters' heads and saying "ok, start voting for us and we'll stop trying to take away your voting rights."
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I think both parties are more concerned with winning latinos than blacks. I think the republicans will eventually win over the latino vote.  Energy is better spent there.

 
Riversco said:
I think both parties are more concerned with winning latinos than blacks. I think the republicans will eventually win over the latino vote.  Energy is better spent there.
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Conceding 12% of the electorate is a little like conceding California to the Dems. How hard would it be, really, for Republicans to simply be more supportive of all minorities?

 
roadkill1292 said:
Conceding 12% of the electorate is a little like conceding California to the Dems. How hard would it be, really, for Republicans to simply be more supportive of all minorities?
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Blacks are not a growing demographic.  In 2050, blacks might represent only 1-2% more of the population than today.  Latinos are going to go from around 20% to 35% in the same time frame.  The smart play is to focus on latinos.

 
TheMagus said:
I'm not even sure what metric he is looking at when he says "the same ####holes they've always been." Statistically crime is down in all the large cities from where it was several decades ago. I'm assuming Chicago is one of the ####holes (the Rs seem to love to rag on Chicago ), and even though there is still way too much violence there, there are almost half the number of murders there per year than there were in the early 90s. You'll see similar statistics for pretty much all the major cities in the country. There may be an outlier or two. But I don't know if we are talking about crime.

If we are talking about poverty levels, I don't feel like looking it up, but if I did I'm sure I would find they have been decreasing as well. 

Maybe he's just talking about litter and the cities being dirty in general. If he is I can point to various programs I am personally aware of that help make them cleaner.

But given that he's just making blanket statements and using subjective terms with no specifics, it's pretty hard to have a conversation about it. And I'll stand by the fact that declaring someone's home city a "####hole" is pretty offensive. I certainly wouldn't want to vote for someone telling me I lived in a ####hole that they needed to fix for me, while simultaneously knowing virtually nothing about it.  :shrug:
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Yeah, I agree with you.  I just want to see what RW says.  Maybe I'll learn something.  Maybe he's right? :shrug:   I'm just trying to give him a chance to flesh out the statements, and maybe he will soon

 
Riversco said:
Blacks are not a growing demographic.  In 2050, blacks might represent only 1-2% more of the population than today.  Latinos are going to go from around 20% to 35% in the same time frame.  The smart play is to focus on latinos.
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I think that's an oversimplification. There is no growing demographic who favors less support for blacks or other minorities. The millennial demo in particular, which will ultimately be the biggest of the age groups, finds non-inclusiveness offensive. It's not hardly necessary for me to point out that the GOP is already struggling to win favor with this group of voters.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Conceding 12% of the electorate is a little like conceding California to the Dems. How hard would it be, really, for Republicans to simply be more supportive of all minorities?
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They can try to improve their presentation, but I'm just not sure that most minority groups are all that receptive to Republican policies.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
They can try to improve their presentation, but I'm just not sure that most minority groups are all that receptive to Republican policies.
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Yeah, the idea that Republicans can just suddenly start "appealing to minorities" while ignoring the elephant on the room - Republican base - seems a bit silly.  

 
It's super weird to read stuff here from people that really believe this garbage.  I don't get a chance to encounter this much.  

I really hope pro-life and reverse racism and political correctness and immigration and cucks and libtards are super, super important to you fellas.  Like, I hope it affects your day to day happiness, I hope you think about it alot, and it bothers you that this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Because you will continue to lose.  You are going to lose as you have continued to lose, and will in fact increase the size and quantity of your losses.  The country/world is getting more liberal, more progressive, it is CLEAR this is happening, and just because every angry white dude now has high speed internet doesn't mean that there are more of you.  There are less of you.  And there is less of you today, than there was last month.  And less than a year ago.  

Your leaders are doubling down on the stupid, making the Democrats job easier.  They are doing that because the Cliven Bundys they represent insist that they take the most extreme positions, ensuring them of lunatic fringe status.  

Meantime, white people are having little brown and tan babies with brown and tan people, and making more progressive voters in states like Arizona and Texas.  

I really hope that hateful #### you spew is important to you.  Because I would prefer that people with beliefs like that are as miserable as possible as often as possible.  

 
massraider said:
It's super weird to read stuff here from people that really believe this garbage.  I don't get a chance to encounter this much.  

I really hope pro-life and reverse racism and political correctness and immigration and cucks and libtards are super, super important to you fellas.  Like, I hope it affects your day to day happiness, I hope you think about it alot, and it bothers you that this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Because you will continue to lose.  You are going to lose as you have continued to lose, and will in fact increase the size and quantity of your losses.  The country/world is getting more liberal, more progressive, it is CLEAR this is happening, and just because every angry white dude now has high speed internet doesn't mean that there are more of you.  There are less of you.  And there is less of you today, than there was last month.  And less than a year ago.  

Your leaders are doubling down on the stupid, making the Democrats job easier.  They are doing that because the Cliven Bundys they represent insist that they take the most extreme positions, ensuring them of lunatic fringe status.  

Meantime, white people are having little brown and tan babies with brown and tan people, and making more progressive voters in states like Arizona and Texas.  

I really hope that hateful #### you spew is important to you.  Because I would prefer that people with beliefs like that are as miserable as possible as often as possible.  
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Weird rant but is Clinton's comments about Jordan Davis an example of love being shown by the libs and political correctness?  

 
massraider said:
It's super weird to read stuff here from people that really believe this garbage.  I don't get a chance to encounter this much.  

I really hope pro-life and reverse racism and political correctness and immigration and cucks and libtards are super, super important to you fellas.  Like, I hope it affects your day to day happiness, I hope you think about it alot, and it bothers you that this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Because you will continue to lose.  You are going to lose as you have continued to lose, and will in fact increase the size and quantity of your losses.  The country/world is getting more liberal, more progressive, it is CLEAR this is happening, and just because every angry white dude now has high speed internet doesn't mean that there are more of you.  There are less of you.  And there is less of you today, than there was last month.  And less than a year ago.  

Your leaders are doubling down on the stupid, making the Democrats job easier.  They are doing that because the Cliven Bundys they represent insist that they take the most extreme positions, ensuring them of lunatic fringe status.  

Meantime, white people are having little brown and tan babies with brown and tan people, and making more progressive voters in states like Arizona and Texas.  

I really hope that hateful #### you spew is important to you.  Because I would prefer that people with beliefs like that are as miserable as possible as often as possible.  
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Trends are reversing against the left.  3rd generation latinos in the United States are leaning republican now.  They want less government.  3rd generation latinos as a share of the latino electorate are growing with each passing year.  There are more and more republicans with each passing election going forward, with nothing to stop it.  You are simply misinformed about where the United States is heading.  You probably have never read this information before.  

The current state of the United States is that the democrats are enjoying a bubble of voters thanks to an immigration wave.  But that comes at devastating cost to the democrats as the children of that wave will be republicans.  It means profound changes are coming, like California being a republican stronghold in a few decades.

The democrats won the present but permanently sacrificed their future to do so.

 
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I don't believe anyone could be as wrong as you have been in this thread, so I am going to assume you are shtick.  

If it's not, I suggest wearing a helmet when you leave the house.  I don't want you getting hurt out there.  

 
If you learn anything today, realize this:  the democrats didn't convince the people living in America to vote democrat.  They have won elections in recent years by importing waves of immigrants who voted for them.  Without that, they lose badly.  And now the kids of that wave will vote republican.

 
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massraider said:
just because every angry white dude now has high speed internet doesn't mean that there are more of you.  There are less of you.  And there is less of you today, than there was last month.  And less than a year ago.  
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Great post, the above part is so good

 
Riversco said:
If you learn anything today, realize this:  the democrats didn't convince the people living in America to vote democrat.  They have won elections in recent years by importing waves of immigrants who voted for them.  Without that, they lose badly.  And now the kids of that wave will vote republican.
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How's that now?

 
Riversco said:
If you learn anything today, realize this:  the democrats didn't convince the people living in America to vote democrat.  They have won elections in recent years by importing waves of immigrants who voted for them.  Without that, they lose badly.  And now the kids of that wave will vote republican.
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Have immigration numbers gone up that significantly in recent years?

 
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html

“Paul Manafort didn’t understand him,” a longtime Trump confidant told me. “Trump is going to do whatever the #### he wants. You have to trick him into doing what you want.”

No one understands this better than Manafort’s successors. To hear Kellyanne Conway talk about managing her boss is to listen to a mother of four who has had ample experience with unruly toddlers. Instead of criticizing Trump’s angry tweets, for instance, she suggested that he also include a few positive ones. “You had these people saying, ‘Delete the app! Stop tweeting!’ ” she recalled. “I would say, ‘Here are a couple of cool things we should tweet today.’ It’s like saying to someone, ‘How about having two brownies and not six?’ ”

 
... “It all has to be his decision in the end,” she said. A Trump donor explained it this way: “Trump has the following personality: NIH-NFW, meaning ‘If it’s not invented here, not invented behind these eyes, then it’s no ####### way.’ ”
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Sounds like a pretty presidential guy to me. 

 
Opie said:
In case you are interested.

Trump live stream from Golden CO.

I don't see Hillary drawing crowds this size...Golden CO has a population of about 19K
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Maybe in 4 years they'll change it so that the president is the guy who gets the most people to come to his rallies. LOL

That's as ridiculous as the things I've been seeing showing a map of who has more Facebook activity, Trump or Hillary. Or more lawn signs. Trump has a base of zealots that hasn't grown since the primaries. It's the same old non-educated white males that can't wait till there's a wall.

 
Sebowski said:
Not even a serial murdering, pantsuit wearing, Benghazi starting, email deleting, speech profiteering, WOMAN?
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Agree on the pantsuits.

The speech "profiteering" cracks me up.  Trump would boast about this (if he could actually speak above a 3rd grade level) and his base would rally around it --

I guess its better to profit off of a scam of University and your own "NON PROFIT"

 
JIslander said:
Agree on the pantsuits.

The speech "profiteering" cracks me up.  Trump would boast about this (if he could actually speak above a 3rd grade level) and his base would rally around it --

I guess its better to profit off of a scam of University and your own "NON PROFIT"
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LOL @ people criticize Hillary for getting paid for speeches. "That makes me smart". S ound familiar, tax evader?

 
ffldrew said:
You know much about Golden? - it's a Denver suburb that is very easy to get to. This isn't that big of a building and this is really on the Golden/Lakewood border - it's where Westernaires practice.
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Besides, Romney drew 25,000 in 2012.

 
massraider said:
It's super weird to read stuff here from people that really believe this garbage.  I don't get a chance to encounter this much.  

I really hope pro-life and reverse racism and political correctness and immigration and cucks and libtards are super, super important to you fellas.  Like, I hope it affects your day to day happiness, I hope you think about it alot, and it bothers you that this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Because you will continue to lose.  You are going to lose as you have continued to lose, and will in fact increase the size and quantity of your losses.  The country/world is getting more liberal, more progressive, it is CLEAR this is happening, and just because every angry white dude now has high speed internet doesn't mean that there are more of you.  There are less of you.  And there is less of you today, than there was last month.  And less than a year ago.  

Your leaders are doubling down on the stupid, making the Democrats job easier.  They are doing that because the Cliven Bundys they represent insist that they take the most extreme positions, ensuring them of lunatic fringe status.  

Meantime, white people are having little brown and tan babies with brown and tan people, and making more progressive voters in states like Arizona and Texas.  

I really hope that hateful #### you spew is important to you.  Because I would prefer that people with beliefs like that are as miserable as possible as often as possible.  
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:lmao:  

 
I love those kinds of posts. Mass is like the nerd that just stormed out of his room ready to finally take on the big bad bully.  Guy was probably so satisfied with himself after posting that, as the people he's talking about are rolling their eyes and laughing. 

 
Riversco said:
Trump has no shot, but polls are breaking in his favor this past week.  Maybe he rallies into election day from here.  

If you wanted to entertain the idea that Trump wins it at the very end, you might as well just watch New Hampshire and Pennsylvania.  Because you'd have to assume Trump sweeps FL, AZ, NV, NC, and OH.  All of that still wouldn't be enough.  Colorado is a lost cause for Trump.  He'd need either NH or PA.  But he's never led a poll in either state.  So you'd be watching to see if he can take a lead even once.
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You couldn't be more wrong!

 
Willie Neslon said:
Crowd size at rallies doesn't equate to votes it speaks to the type of people who attend political rallies.
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Oh right, it's different now as compared to what everyone was saying when Obama was pulling in huge rallies

TRUMP landslide is in coming!!!!

 
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