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***Official*** Dwayne Washington, RB, DET (2 Viewers)

Maybe Riddick is dealing with a high ankle sprain? It's odd, although it seems like he never had a chance of suiting up I haven't read anything about the actual severity of the injury.

 
SameSongNDance said:
Maybe Riddick is dealing with a high ankle sprain? It's odd, although it seems like he never had a chance of suiting up I haven't read anything about the actual severity of the injury.
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2 full weeks of missed practices is definitely concerning. Detroit is usually pretty hush about their injuries.

 
JFS171 said:
I don't know if he's officially listed as full, but the beat writers had this to say per Rotoworld:

 
 
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Shaping up for a nice workload, and a situation to avoid in the same blurb?

eta - quotes suck

 
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ATB said:
Who's the guy to have with Riddick out? I think Tate might be...
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Tate and Boldin have really benefited with Ebron and Riddick out.

However, I also wouldn't be surprised if Washington saw some legitimate work in the passing game this week. It could be Forsett, but I'm still of the belief that Forsett is washed.

 
Assuming Washington is healthy and plays (and again - actually is healthy), I'd think for this week they'd give him Zenner's touches and somewhat ease Washington in.  I'm not expecting them to fully unleash him, but... I guess it's possible.

I'd think Tate's passing game role as the direct Riddick replacement is probably safe another week.  Maybe Washington gets some of that... maybe not. 

 
I want back on the train so bad. I'm completely stacked on RBs and a little weak on wrs. I can't get a 2-1 trade done to open a spot and I'm very close to dropping Tyrell Willams for him. 

 
With Riddick out he actually has an increased shot to be productive as he closely aligns with Ty Montgomery's RB style of play rather than Zenner's. I think Zenner/Washington would be a nice combo long term if Riddick is out. We can see from GB that Ty Montgomery can be very productive in that role along with Riddick and White in NE.

 
mnmplayer said:
With Riddick out he actually has an increased shot to be productive as he closely aligns with Ty Montgomery's RB style of play rather than Zenner's. I think Zenner/Washington would be a nice combo long term if Riddick is out. We can see from GB that Ty Montgomery can be very productive in that role along with Riddick and White in NE.
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I'll probably give him a shot - AGAIN - for one last time.  It's either him or Deandre Washington w/Murray back.  Was really banking on Doug Martin being back so I wouldn't have to be in this situation.

 
Really liking this opportunity for him. Reminds me of Howard having to step up (even though he's stepped back down). 

Would you guys start him over Matt Jones/McKinnon/DT/Tate (flex slot)?

 
ATB said:
Really liking this opportunity for him. Reminds me of Howard having to step up (even though he's stepped back down). 

Would you guys start him over Matt Jones/McKinnon/DT/Tate (flex slot)?
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Depends on if its a PPR league.  In a PPR i would take McKinnon 1st.

 
MaxThreshold said:
I'll probably give him a shot - AGAIN - for one last time.  It's either him or Deandre Washington w/Murray back.  Was really banking on Doug Martin being back so I wouldn't have to be in this situation.
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Same situation with me. I am just thankful that this seems like a good week to play Swaggy since Martin is still out. I am hoping I can lean on Swaggy while Martin is out.

 
ATB said:
Really liking this opportunity for him. Reminds me of Howard having to step up (even though he's stepped back down).

Would you guys start him over Matt Jones/McKinnon/DT/Tate (flex slot)?
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I would not feel comfortable starting him this week over players who are a lock to get a moderate to large amount of work unless you're looking to swing for the fences.

 
ATB said:
Standard. 
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Well you have better options for your flex spot. IMO whoever gets the most volume and or snaps is your best bet as well whoever has the most possible playtime, and that would go with either Jones or Tate. McKinnon is a good choice still but the other two are a better choice.

 
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Picked him up after learning that Charles has swelling in his knee.  Literally no other choice on my team.  Fingers crossed..

From Rotoworld via CBS...

Washington is listed as questionable after logging three straight limited practices, but reports hinted he was almost able to play last week, which suggests he should be ready by Sunday. Prior to spraining his ankle, the seventh-round rookie was part of a timeshare with Theo Riddick (ankle), who has already been ruled out for Sunday. Assuming he plays and isn't too limited by the ankle, Washington could serve as the lead back ahead of Zach Zenner and Justin Forsett. The Lions still figure to go with a timeshare, making any of the three a speculative Week 7 option.

 
Mike Davis still out there. ?
 
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Yahoo projections for him in standard scoring just went from 3.50 to 9.  Clearly they anticipate him playing and getting the lions share.  

 
Just watched all the film on Zenner and Forsett.  My conclusion is that both are liabilities to lose yards on any play.

Washington gives them the best chance of a guaranteed positive play, which is really all they want from their run game (not to put them in a 2nd and long hole).  He's pretty much cut and go, is faster than Zenner, and stronger than Forsett.  Can also beat linemen to the edge.

My guess is that if Washington is not injured he's going to get most of the work, and Redskins are a defense that can be run on.

I think the touches go Washington > Zenner > Forsett.

 
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So frustrating.  Had to have been a high ankle sprain.  He's totally missed his window to shine and now when he returns he'll be 2nd fiddle to riddick again.  

 
I can only understand the frustration if you were expecting something short term out of the guy.

He got hurt, he will be back.  When he comes back - he has only to beat out studs named Zenner and Forsett.  If he can't do that... :shrug:

 
I am holding. I have Bell, Johnson, Ware and Ingram ahead of him. I was just hoping he would hit and I could move him or Ingram for WR help. If he can show something the 2 games before the bye I can still do that. 

 
Honestly I'm happy he isn't playing today. I couldn't make room for him but once he is healthy I still believe he can be a difference maker  :ph34r:

 
Weebs210 said:
Honestly I'm happy he isn't playing today. I couldn't make room for him but once he is healthy I still believe he can be a difference maker  :ph34r:
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I don't know who gave him the nickname "swaggy" (because it's lame), but his real nickname should be Brokeback Washington because no one can seem to quit him.

 
Holding him as well. I always hold high upside guys like this at the end of my bench. That's what the last couple spots on your bench are for.

 
Milkman said:
Holding him as well. I always hold high upside guys like this at the end of my bench. That's what the last couple spots on your bench are for.
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High upside?  He's been a YUGGGE disappointment so far.  I'm just looking for solid.  Heck, I'd settle for average at this point.

 
I'm holding because we've never seen any actual metrics of what he could do for a full game.  I'm intrigued more than anything else.   He was literally hurt so early causing all of this lol...

 
He has neither high nor low upside. Or maybe he has both high and low upside.

The truth is that at this point he has entirely unknown upside, which is why we hope. 

But today, with another DNP under his belt upside gives way to pragmatism.

 
Milkman said:
LOL obviously you're trolling but yeah dude you should drop him if you don't like his upside.
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Not trolling, really.  He might have upside, but I'm not banking on HIGH upside like you are.  My guess is he will go down like a ##### again next time somebody tries to tackle him.

Yeah I'm pissed because he had is opportunity and failed miserably.  He's been teasing his comeback for two weeks now to take the job and he can't even do that w/Riddick out. 

The only reason I still have him is because there is literally no one else on our WW for me to grab.  So while I think he has some upside, at this point it's severely limited.

 
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rickyg said:
So frustrating.  Had to have been a high ankle sprain.  He's totally missed his window to shine and now when he returns he'll be 2nd fiddle to riddick again.  
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MaxThreshold said:
Wow.  I can't believe i fell for this again.  This guy is fool's gold. :bag:
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We don't know that he'll be 2nd fiddle - Riddick hasn't even practiced at ALL in 2 weeks, and the team has said nothing about his injury.  I don't think anyone outside of the Lions org has any idea what's going on there.

And it doesn't mean he's fool's gold.  It means he's not recovered yet.  It's possible he comes back at the same time Riddick does, which wouldn't be ideal... but the whole hype around Washington to begin with was based on the fact that Riddick isn't very good between the tackles and isn't built to take that kind of beating.  Washington is.  His ankle/foot injury won't change the fact that he's 6'1" and 223lbs while Riddick is 5'10" 201lbs.

I've said since Washington got hurt to meet back in Week 8.  An accelerated timeline would be nice, but I'm not bailing yet.  Maybe I'm the eternal optimist here, but I see talent, and I see opportunity... all that's left is health.  :shrug:

 
JFS171 said:
We don't know that he'll be 2nd fiddle - Riddick hasn't even practiced at ALL in 2 weeks, and the team has said nothing about his injury.  I don't think anyone outside of the Lions org has any idea what's going on there.

And it doesn't mean he's fool's gold.  It means he's not recovered yet.  It's possible he comes back at the same time Riddick does, which wouldn't be ideal... but the whole hype around Washington to begin with was based on the fact that Riddick isn't very good between the tackles and isn't built to take that kind of beating.  Washington is.  His ankle/foot injury won't change the fact that he's 6'1" and 223lbs while Riddick is 5'10" 201lbs.

I've said since Washington got hurt to meet back in Week 8.  An accelerated timeline would be nice, but I'm not bailing yet.  Maybe I'm the eternal optimist here, but I see talent, and I see opportunity... all that's left is health.  :shrug:
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You make good points, but apparently Washington can't take that kind of beating either since he's been injured and out the last 4 weeks himself doing exactly that - running between the tackles.  

Which is why this dude is so frustrating - you simply CANNOT blow opportunity out of your ### in the NFL because it doesn't wait for you.  Like I said, it sucks that he got injured but players who make an impact do so when opportunity presents itself.  He's now had TWO weeks to get back in the lineup w/Riddick out and make a statement and yet he can't even do that.

 
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JFS171 said:
We don't know that he'll be 2nd fiddle - Riddick hasn't even practiced at ALL in 2 weeks, and the team has said nothing about his injury.  I don't think anyone outside of the Lions org has any idea what's going on there.

And it doesn't mean he's fool's gold.  It means he's not recovered yet.  It's possible he comes back at the same time Riddick does, which wouldn't be ideal... but the whole hype around Washington to begin with was based on the fact that Riddick isn't very good between the tackles and isn't built to take that kind of beating.  Washington is.  His ankle/foot injury won't change the fact that he's 6'1" and 223lbs while Riddick is 5'10" 201lbs.

I've said since Washington got hurt to meet back in Week 8.  An accelerated timeline would be nice, but I'm not bailing yet.  Maybe I'm the eternal optimist here, but I see talent, and I see opportunity... all that's left is health.  :shrug:
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I hear you on not knowing whether he stays 2nd fiddle to riddick and how they are different players.  

I'm holding him (been holding since week 2) mostly because there aren't any better Rb options on the wire and I love his upside. But I didn't think this was as bad an injury as it apparently was.  Shaping up to be 1 month missed due to injury.  

It just sucks BC these last 2-3 weeks were his chance to shine.  He could have blown up and taken over this backfield.   Now he will come back probably with riddick and might never get the volume he needs to breakout.  

 
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