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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)

12 team PPR. 1 QB, short bench. Different league.

Gave: 1.07, Diontae Johnson, Doubs, G. Davis
Received: Kelce, Kupp, Keenan Allen
I’d rather have the 1.07 side, I like Dionte as a potential target vacuum in CAR.

Just feels like too much for 3 rapidly aging assets. Lot of risk going from 4 young players to Kelce, Kupp & Allen.

League winning upside for a year-ish, sure. I get it.
I’m surprised you if all people being on the other side after you making a couple win now trades giving up future firsts…and most liking the other side of your trades.

Being able to put out a weekly lineup of:
QB: Herbert
RB: Barkley, Bijan
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA
TE: Kelce

Bench of note: MHJ, JSN, M. Andrews, Purdy

This puts me back as one of the top competitive teams.
:2cents: I think you’ll be starting 2 or 3 from your bench most of the year.
I am hopeful MHJ and JSN kill it enough for them to be in there, but wanted more assurance for this year. Andrews for sure could crack it as my 5th option over maybe KA or on byes.
 
I’m surprised you if all people being on the other side after you making a couple win now trades giving up future firsts…and most liking the other side of your trades.
I like acquiring aging talent to win now, for sure. I don’t love giving up young players to do it. I’ve been paying future picks, which I suppose is the same thing, but when a pick is 2 years out it feels less valuable.

I also prefer to do it for players who’ve had good track records of health. Those 3 seem particularly spotty in that dept.

I understand the deal and I hope it works, but you’re giving up a lot of youth for a lot of risk.

Best of luck with it. I don’t hate it. If they all stay healthy it should win you a ship.
 
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I’m surprised you if all people being on the other side after you making a couple win now trades giving up future firsts…and most liking the other side of your trades.
I like acquiring aging talent to win now, for sure. I don’t love giving up young players to do it. I’ve been paying figure picks, which I suppose is the same thing, but when a pick is 2 years out it feels less valuable.

I also prefer to do it for players who’ve had good track records of health. Those 3 seem particularly spotty in that dept.

I understand the deal and I hope it works, but you’re giving up a lot of youth for a lot of risk.

Best of luck with it. I don’t hate it. If they all stay healthy it should win you a ship.
yeah, I think we have opposite strategies for acquiring the win now pieces. I hate giving up future firsts, especially this time of year, I would rather give up younger players that I don't believe will turn into studs and current draft pick (s) where I have an established pick and draft board to know what player I am giving up.

ETA: I am a fan of Diontae and he was not part of my initial offer, but the other team countered with him instead of another player so I agreed. He was the hardest piece to give up players wise.
 
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ETA: I am a fan of Diontae and he was not part of my initial offer, but the other team countered with him instead of another player so I agreed. He was the hardest piece to give up players wise.
Honestly that's the piece that I had the biggest issue with in this. I still believe Gabe Davis is more valuable in JAX, but I wouldn't mind giving him up for a Kelce and a ship.

On the other side Kupp concerns me the most health-wise.

Like I said, I don't hate it. I hope it works.
 
ETA: I am a fan of Diontae and he was not part of my initial offer, but the other team countered with him instead of another player so I agreed. He was the hardest piece to give up players wise.
Honestly that's the piece that I had the biggest issue with in this. I still believe Gabe Davis is more valuable in JAX, but I wouldn't mind giving him up for a Kelce and a ship.

On the other side Kupp concerns me the most health-wise.

Like I said, I don't hate it. I hope it works.
I mean come on you always over valued G. Davis. That piece isn't a big worry to me.
Kelce- not worried about injury history...I am worried about him retiring this year or next.
Kupp- soft tissues could be an issue. If he is close to form he is a stud
KA- I was down on him, but last year surprised me when I looked at it. Now paired with Caleb William...we will see
 
1 QB league. 6 per TD though. Guy didn’t have a starting QB.

Nick Chubb for Jared Goff, Zeke and 6.12
Interesting .. I like Chubb but reports are he might be slow out of the gate ... but I would still prefer Chubb

Diggs, Aaron Jones, Dallas Goedert for Kenneth Walker and 6.10

PPR
3 Aging assets for a starting RB on a run heavy scheme should be an easy sell to get KWIII
Not sure Diggs will see the volume he did in Buff, AJones has a serious downgrade in OL and Goedert is likely 5th target in this Offense now ... (AJB, DevSmith, Saq & Hurts runs it, then Goedert might see 70 targets).... Nice Volume for Quality move.
 
Tony Pollard
2025 mid 2nd

For 2.7

1QB league. Draft starts next week. PPR
Ranking the assets in the deal:

Pollard
2.7
2025 mid 2nd

Noah Brown for 4.4
Whatever the opposite of rookie fever is, this is it.

Nick Chubb for Jared Goff, Zeke and 6.12
Chubb's most likely toast, good deal to get Goff when you need a QB in a 6 pt passing league.


Diggs, Aaron Jones, Dallas Goedert for Kenneth Walker and 6.10
2024-the haul
2025-probably Walker, small chance the haul wins
2026 and beyond-All Walker
 
Chubb's most likely toast,
I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. He's not young though.
If I was entirely sure myself I would not have phrased it as "most likely" so for sure conceded fact I could be wrong, it's possible he could pull a late career ACL recovery like Adrian Peterson. But such a significant second knee injury on an older RB, and the way the Browns cut his pay, has me thinking it's most likely not going to go that way for him.
 
Chubb's most likely toast,
I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. He's not young though.
If I was entirely sure myself I would not have phrased it as "most likely" so for sure conceded fact I could be wrong, it's possible he could pull a late career ACL recovery like Adrian Peterson. But such a significant second knee injury on an older RB, and the way the Browns cut his pay, has me thinking it's most likely not going to go that way for him.
At what point in redraft would you pull the trigger on him?
 
Chubb's most likely toast,
I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. He's not young though.
If I was entirely sure myself I would not have phrased it as "most likely" so for sure conceded fact I could be wrong, it's possible he could pull a late career ACL recovery like Adrian Peterson. But such a significant second knee injury on an older RB, and the way the Browns cut his pay, has me thinking it's most likely not going to go that way for him.
At what point in redraft would you pull the trigger on him?
I don't know but can say I've about 15'ish drafts into the year, mainly best ball leagues where I do value him a little less, and I've only had one draft he was remotely someone I considered in what was the 10th round of a draft which took place before the NFL draft and I passed. Where he goes, which right now in FFPC non-best ball leagues is RB34 and late round 9, I just like other options. If he were to go about 2 rounds later I'd probably take a shot at adding him on a team or two, just in case.

Despite his age I'd actually value him higher in dynasty then redraft as I think if he returns to form or close to it that it's most likely going to be 2025. I don't know why some of the early reports on his knee injury seemed to downplay it, but that injury was as bad as it looked to all of us when we saw it.
 
Despite his age I'd actually value him higher in dynasty then redraft as I think if he returns to form or close to it that it's most likely going to be 2025. I don't know why some of the early reports on his knee injury seemed to downplay it, but that injury was as bad as it looked to all of us when we saw it.
Fair take.

I tend to do Hero RB, so Chubb is a target for me at ADP in the ~10th round. My local redraft is IDP, so likely more like 10th/11th.

While I don’t discount the injury at all, I do believe he’s a hard worker, and as an RB4 there’s upside there. I look at him as a potential 2nd half breakout as he regains confidence over the 1st half,
 
12 team 1QB PPR

Gave - Achane, Dell

Got - Hurts, Walker III
Even in 1 QB this feels like a bit of a steal for the Hurts/Walker side. I'm not really high on Achane due to size/health and Dell has a ton of competition in Houston now and is also small. Good trade.
My thoughts exactly on both Achane and Dell. I know a lot of folks are higher on both than I am, but this deal just made sense to me.
 
but I don't think Johnson/Doubs/Davis are anything special so
Of that side I basically look at it as 1.07 + Dionte for the geriatrics.

I do believe DJ has a chance to crack top 10 WR this year, as he should be a target hog. Theilen was fairly washed last year and put up monster numbers for the 1st half of the season.

But as I’ve said, I get the trade. I hope he brings home a ship this year to make it worth it.
 
but I don't think Johnson/Doubs/Davis are anything special so
Of that side I basically look at it as 1.07 + Dionte for the geriatrics.

I do believe DJ has a chance to crack top 10 WR this year, as he should be a target hog. Theilen was fairly washed last year and put up monster numbers for the 1st half of the season.

But as I’ve said, I get the trade. I hope he brings home a ship this year to make it worth it.
To Crack Top 10 in Targets... Maybe ... But to have those targets be remotely catchable or even close to allowing YAC is a major reach for that Offense, OL & QB.
Carolina has a long way to go to get any player in Top 36 value in 2024.
Yeah, He might get a game with 7-88-1 on 15 targets... but that is not going to be most weeks
 
12 team 1QB PPR

gave - Charbonnet, Shakir, pick 2.10

got - T Higgins, Stafford
I actually like charbs, but give me Tee and Stafford if you need a QB.

12 team 1QB PPR

Gave - Achane, Dell

Got - Hurts, Walker III
I’ll take KW3 and hurts fairly easily but it’s fair.

12 team Best Ball SF PPR

Gave: London, Achane, Devy 1st
Got: Lamb

Fair. Depending on roster could go either way. But I think I’ll take London and the devy 1st. Although, devy 1sts are often overrated.
 
To Crack Top 10 in Targets... Maybe ... But to have those targets be remotely catchable or even close to allowing YAC is a major reach for that Offense, OL & QB.
Carolina has a long way to go to get any player in Top 36 value in 2024.
Yeah, He might get a game with 7-88-1 on 15 targets... but that is not going to be most weeks
Obviously I’m assuming growth (pardon the expression) from their tiny QB Bryce “Gimli” Young.

I said a chance, but realistically i see DJ’s ceiling as top 20 WR. Still a semi-elite player. He’s going to be a target hog, so the opportunity is there -but as you suggest, he also needs to catch them, and do something with them.
 
Michael Wilson for 4.4

12 team PPR.
man, these are bargains - is this in a heavy cut-down about to happen format?
No we have very, very, very deep rosters. So half the league hoards draft picks and half trade them all.
I don’t get it. Trading a healthy 2nd year player who was a day 1 starter as a rookie for a late dart throw? It’s Homer Simpson choosing between the boat and the mystery box.
 

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