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OBJ by a wide margin.
The first trade is interesting. I had someone offer Gronk to me for Hunter Henry, my 2017 1.3 rookie pick and my 2018 Round 1 pick. I turned it down and they told me I was crazy not to make the deal. All his back surgeries worry me and I wonder how long he stays in the game before he decides to retire and live off his celebrity.
A guy in my league got the 1.9 for him. I think it's the exception not the rule thoughz I like 1.1 as well but think if the 18 2 were an 18 1 I'd think really hard about it.
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tbh it is a crazy price to ask for in start 1 QB. Maybe even crazy in a start 2 QB league! If you think he is willing to come way down and you really want to move into one of these guys I'd suggest Hilton straight up for them, Luck being my target between the 3. Carr and Newton I'd be asking for something coming back my way. But if he really believes that's where those guys are valued you may be wasting your time. I'd probably rather sit and check on Wentz' development than make a move right now especially with an owner with this price tag.
Mixon is available. So are some other guys like Ross, Foreman, and Kamara. But unless Mixon lands in a really great spot, I'll take Saquon. I think he's more talented than any back in this class.
That's an easy turn down IMO. I don't think I'd even give up Henry and 1.03.
At least in so far as the DJ vs OBJ trade is concerned. I don't think either of those two backs push the deal one way or the other.
Yeah I'm not actually locked onto Mixon over Barkley, but felt like Barkley was a great fallback if Mixon is in a bad spot.
The other owner always starts with a high initial ask and then strikes a deal (or not) after numerous counter-offers. So, he isn't stuck on his initial asking price.
First one is a toss-up. OBJ has more longevity, DJ probably gives you more of a weekly advantage. I like Anderson over Charles/Martin, but those guys are so outclassed by the behemoths at the core of the trade that it's barely worth considering.
I like side getting OBJ in first deal. I rate him straight up over DJ in dynasty. None of the side piece RB's are of particular large value to me to change anything but I'd for sure take Charles and Martin over Anderson based solely on measuring stick of how I value them, not what I could possibly fiip Anderson to get. So I like the main course and the side dishes a little more on the OBJ side of this deal.
I would think it would be on he rare side. Let me put it this way, I own some Ebron shares in a FFPC (TE premium) and he's probably the #1 player I get unsolicited trade offers on from other teams. Those offers have never included a first and when I've replied that I"d need a first to even think about it it always ends the trade talk.
My mistake, it was my 2018 2nd, not 2.10
Prefer Team B; decent haul to move down 5 spotsMatt's Eagles said:
Agree but I would have waited to see who fell first. Most of my leagues have a big twist or two early on (QB, a homer pick at RB, etc) so sometimes see real value in late first. I really like the value in the 2nd with guys like Samuel, Reynolds, Henderson in that range. I just put together a casual top 18 list and there's a lot to like in that late 2nd into the third.
That's the risk though, right? If you wait and 1.09 ends up looking just OK then maybe you get to decide to pass if you don't think the players are much better there. However if you wait and 1.09 ends up having a really good value pick available there when you're trying to trade for it then maybe the guy doesn't want to sell it now or, best case, is simply asking for a much higher price.
Yep, but that still leaves 10 other owners that might pony up. And there's a non-zero chance the guy that originally wanted 1.09 is now even more excited about it because someone the other guy was expected to be gone is still there. I mean if you're making a list of 9 guys you are after, you are pretty much guaranteed your worst case scenario of your 9th guy on the list being there. 9 guys can't go before by 1.08. But he could easily see his #5 guy still there.
Hill and Paul Perkins, kings of the trade this year. Those guys have been getting some ridiculous deals.
But that's very little payoff for someone worth more. Can't win making deals like that just because you don't believe in a guy. Gotta find a price someone else would be willing to pay, not the price you'd be willing to take in a vacuum. It ignores all value, no league is a vacuum.
I agree, but do not own him anywhere. There are deals that I see where I would not do from either side but I respond to which side I prefer . I would definitely take 2 1st's for him taking away the 7 spot move up. I would also take a top 5 1st straight up.
You're reading it wrong. The 7 spot move up IS one of the 1sts. It's not really two firsts. It's moving up from 2.4 to 1.9 and then getting a 2018 1st.
I seen it was a 7 spot move up and if forced to choose I would still take that side. Just saying ideally I would take 2 1st's for him alone without returning an early 2nd. Sorry about the confusion
Dez under performed, Hill is undervalued if they both perform like last year Tyreek side wins easily. Having said that I turned down Tyreek, Robby Anderson & Duke Johnson for Dez and believe there is a very good chance I'm gonna regret it.
Of course the smart money is on Dez being very likely to perform much better than last year and Tyreek to probably perform worse.
Yeah, I've been really shocked by the value being given for those two guys (especially Hill recently). These last few Hill trades have been insane - wish I owned him in order to try and take advantage.
