Limited WR in what sense please tell? Yes the Denver Offense is much better suited than Cleveland and it isn't remotely close. Apparently Cleveland is going back to the well yet again for a QB. I know no qcontenders that would prefer a 23 yo who has yet to sustain health and has shown little vs a guy that has put up 1000+ yards for 5+ years and is well on his way to another 1000+ yard season. Contenders aren't paying up for Coleman they are for DT. DT is a solid WR2 (never said anything about WR1 and you are talking 2 years out when he turns 32) for a contender. Coleman is a WR4/5 type til he shows something which may not even happen this year.DT is a limited WR. I don't think he'll age well. You'll be lucky to get one more year out of him and that year will be stuck in Denver so his 2018 upside is limited (is the Denver offense really that much better off than Cleveland?). As a FA, I doubt he garners a WR1 role as he'll turn 32 that year. So as a contender I'd much rather pay a 1st for Coleman who will be back in a few weeks than DT. Plus, Coleman's injuries haven't been of the bad variety.
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I was debating offering this the other way around in my league (Zeke for Hunt + late 1st). Easy accept here if I was a Hunt owner, but can understand why the Hunt owner could prefer him to Zeke.I'm here to take my lumps but I opted out of the Elliott circus.
Zealots PPR
Gave: Ezekiel Elliott/2018 1st
Got: Kareem Hunt/two 2018 3rds
Tried to get a 2nd from the guy but he wouldn't budge. Oh well.
True. Others will see it as a buying opportunity. Perhaps more so because they've seen Zeke beat them in the past.I was debating offering this the other way around in my league (Zeke for Hunt + late 1st). Easy accept here if I was a Hunt owner, but can understand why the Hunt owner could prefer him to Zeke.
I'm expecting we see a decent amount of bailing on Zeke this season/offseason regardless of when the legal issues come out. He's shaping up to be a high-risk player, and lots of dynasty owners (myself included) are risk averse by nature.
GordonTwo dynasty trades today, 12 team ppr
A gets Alex Collins, MikeWilliams, 2018 1st round pick likely 10-12
B gets Melvin Gordon
A gets dede Westbrook, Dan Bailey, jerod Goff, Adam Shaheen, 1st (likely 10-12), 3rd
C gets Danny Woodhead, Mark Ingram and demariyus Thomas
Well you did get two 3rds at least...........I'm here to take my lumps but I opted out of the Elliott circus.
Zealots PPR
Gave: Ezekiel Elliott/2018 1st
Got: Kareem Hunt/two 2018 3rds
Tried to get a 2nd from the guy but he wouldn't budge. Oh well.
I'd definitely take a chance on Sammy for that.FFPC happened before kickoff
Doug Martin
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Sammy Watkins
I don't like either guy so I guess I'd take the age in Sammy but not quite sure how close it would be.
I guess Sammy is only getting respect in my leagues. Can't believe Martin can get you SammyFFPC happened before kickoff
Doug Martin
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Sammy Watkins
I don't like either guy so I guess I'd take the age in Sammy but not quite sure how close it would be.
Dak is scoring like crazy this year anyway so I like this deal for you.12tm idp ppr
Gave: Brady
Got: 2018 1st (likely 10-12 range).
I'm weak at RB and with OBJ going down for the year very doubtful I'll contend for a title this year despite being 4-3 and a 2 game division lead. Current QBs are Dak, Hundley and Kelly on taxi and wanted to cash in Brady while there was still opportunity.....With Palmer out injured and Eli on a bye figured he'd be desperate enough.
Parker for me, Ebron is already 2nd string in Detroit and I wouldn't be surprised to see him 2nd string the rest of his career. I hate Jeffery.Builder traded Ebron, Jeffery to a contender for D Parker.
I think I would take Shepard and the 1st, but it is pretty even.14 teams, ppr
Gave: Sterling Shepard, proj. mid-late 1st
Got: Diggs
I wouldn't trade Reed straight up for McCoy so give me that side easily.Couple in a 12 team PPR start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex
not involved but team A is the same team
Team A gave: Jordan Reed, James white, and marquis lee
Team B gave: Lesean McCoy
Team A gave: Doug Baldwin and 2018 second
Team C gave: Deshuan Watson and Danny Woodhead
1st by a lot.12tm idp ppr
Gave: Brady
Got: 2018 1st (likely 10-12 range).
I'm weak at RB and with OBJ going down for the year very doubtful I'll contend for a title this year despite being 4-3 and a 2 game division lead. Current QBs are Dak, Hundley and Kelly on taxi and wanted to cash in Brady while there was still opportunity.....With Palmer out injured and Eli on a bye figured he'd be desperate enough.
I see both sides, but in a value wise I would take Rodgers side, but close.jeaton6 said:12 team PPR:
Gave: Rodgers, Jordan Matthews, Joe Williams
Got: Landry, Eli
Landry in over Martavis. All set at QB with Wentz.
agree with you.Zyphros said:FFPC happened before kickoff
Doug Martin
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Sammy Watkins
I don't like either guy so I guess I'd take the age in Sammy but not quite sure how close it would be.
I would take Cook pretty easily.12 team 0.5 PPR:
Rebuilder gave Dalvin Cook to Contender for McCoy and Cam (Other QBs were Ben and Cutler).
Gordon by a tonTwo dynasty trades today, 12 team ppr
A gets Alex Collins, MikeWilliams, 2018 1st round pick likely 10-12
B gets Melvin Gordon
A gets dede Westbrook, Dan Bailey, jerod Goff, Adam Shaheen, 1st (likely 10-12), 3rd
C gets Danny Woodhead, Mark Ingram and demariyus Thomas
BrownAll different leagues but some blockbusters in here. First three happened before week 6 games, others were this week.
Team A gave up Bryant, Dez DAL WR; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick (playoff team)
Team B gave up Brown, Antonio PIT WR
Team A gave up Hoyer, Brian SFO QB;Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB;Gallman, Wayne NYG RB;Jones, Marvin DET WR;Mitchell, Malcolm NEP WR;Watkins, Sammy LAR WR;Dickson, Ed CAR TE
Team B gave up Stafford, Matthew DET QB;Austin, Tavon LAR WR;Green, A.J. CIN WR;Clay, Charles BUF TE;Bouye, A.J. JAC CB
Team A gave up Ryan, Matt ATL QB;Smallwood, Wendell PHI RB;Jones, Julio ATL WR
Team B gave up Carr, Derek OAK QB;Evans, Mike TBB WR
Team A gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB;Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR;McCoy, Gerald TBB DT;Bostic, Jon IND LB;Farley, Matthias IND S; Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 4 Draft Pick;Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team B gave up Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB;Beckham, Odell NYG WR;Louis, Ricardo CLE WR;Casey, Jurrell TEN DE;Goodson, B.J. NYG LB; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 8 Draft Pick;Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick (playoff team)
Team A gave up Brown, John ARI WR;Rosas, Aldrick NYG PK;Bradham, Nigel PHI LB;Heath, Jeff DAL S;Tandy, Keith TBB S; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 5 Draft Pick (playoff team)
Team B gave up Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR;Burfict, Vontaze CIN LB; Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 4 Draft Pick
Team A gave up Gore, Frank IND RB;Peterson, Adrian ARI RB; Year 2018 Round 7 Draft Pick
Team B gave up Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 6 Draft Pick
Team A gave up Green, A.J. CIN WR
Team B gave up Watkins, Sammy LAR WR; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick;Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick (playoff team)
I will take ZekeI'm here to take my lumps but I opted out of the Elliott circus.
Zealots PPR
Gave: Ezekiel Elliott/2018 1st
Got: Kareem Hunt/two 2018 3rds
Tried to get a 2nd from the guy but he wouldn't budge. Oh well.
Agreed. Pre-injury not likely I do this without additional sweetener, but Landry gets me production I'm missing rolling out Martavis every week and sets me up well come playoffs.I see both sides, but in a value wise I would take Rodgers side, but close.
Diggs14 teams, ppr
Gave: Sterling Shepard, proj. mid-late 1st
Got: Diggs
said he was just happy to get rid of reed, but I would agree he really didn't need to add both of those other pieces. He should make playoffs tho so getting more of a sure thing in McCoy over 3 inconsistent guys was is reasoning there. Also has Hunter Henry and Engram at TE so he does have some decent options.I wouldn't trade Reed straight up for McCoy so give me that side easily.
I prefer Baldwin to Watson in start 1 qb leagues, so give me Baldwin side easily.
I prefer Freeman most in this deal but seems a bit much for him14 Team.. standard scoring..no ppr
A gives Dez, THill, TTaylor
B gives Freeman, 2018 1st Round-up currently #11
I am getting Freeman and Pick .... I am 2-5 and have given up most points14 Team.. standard scoring..no ppr
A gives Dez, THill, TTaylor
B gives Freeman, 2018 1st Round-up currently #11
And so was hurnsThielen is my #5 wr... Green, Dez, KAllen, THill, Thielen
That's an aggressive buy. I think it's fine for both sides12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
Gave: McCoy, Thomas (DEN), 3rd
Got: Kamara
Other RBs: Freeman, Murray, Peterson
Other WRs: Hopkins, Thomas (NO), Diggs, Dez
Mind sharing the league settings? Hard to judge the trade without them.Desperate at QB with Luck, Bradford, and Palmer on the shelf and only Hundley on my taxi squad. WW features Stanton and Moore and that's it.
Offered 2018 and 2019 1sts for Wentz. Turned down. Same for Dak. Turned down. Same for Carr. Accepted. Might be an over pay but hopefully Luck comes back and I can maybe recoup something later.
Curious if you tried shopping Luck in that league or what kind of response you got. I'm in a similar situation in a 16 team league where I had Luck and Palmer. Traded a 3rd to get Josh McCown after the best offer I had was trading Luck for Carr straight up. Was a bit torn on the deal but I'm just not a big believer in Carr as a top talent.Desperate at QB with Luck, Bradford, and Palmer on the shelf and only Hundley on my taxi squad. WW features Stanton and Moore and that's it.
Offered 2018 and 2019 1sts for Wentz. Turned down. Same for Dak. Turned down. Same for Carr. Accepted. Might be an over pay but hopefully Luck comes back and I can maybe recoup something later.
Yeah - assuming this isn't a start 2 or superflex format, I really don't like it. I'd much rather target a cheaper option like Brees, Brady, Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, Cousins, Smith, etc. It's not going to be easy moving Luck for good value - most teams will have at least one guy on their roster they're content with, if not 2. The QB field is stacked right now.Curious if you tried shopping Luck in that league or what kind of response you got. I'm in a similar situation in a 16 team league where I had Luck and Palmer. Traded a 3rd to get Josh McCown after the best offer I had was trading Luck for Carr straight up. Was a bit torn on the deal but I'm just not a big believer in Carr as a top talent.
That's more than what I would be willing to pay for Kamara but I usually like the older guys that I still have some highly productive years over the hot rookie.12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
Gave: McCoy, Thomas (DEN), 3rd
Got: Kamara
Other RBs: Freeman, Murray, Peterson
Other WRs: Hopkins, Thomas (NO), Diggs, Dez
That's a lot to give but if you are generally picking late I can live with it. I view it as an overpay but I also prefer to sell picks for established players when I can find the right deal.Desperate at QB with Luck, Bradford, and Palmer on the shelf and only Hundley on my taxi squad. WW features Stanton and Moore and that's it.
Offered 2018 and 2019 1sts for Wentz. Turned down. Same for Dak. Turned down. Same for Carr. Accepted. Might be an over pay but hopefully Luck comes back and I can maybe recoup something later.
Aggresive is a good way to put it. I'm high on Kamara and was dead set on rolling depth into youth or picks. I think you have to overpay to land Kamara right now, and feel I was in a position to do that.That's an aggressive buy. I think it's fine for both sides
I agree, he is definitely someone that needs a very strong offer to acquire. Definitely looks like you are still a strong contender after the move. Nice job getting your guyAggresive is a good way to put it. I'm high on Kamara and was dead set on rolling depth into youth or picks. I think you have to overpay to land Kamara right now, and feel I was in a position to do that.