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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (38 Viewers)

I believe I would rather have Harris and Bateman.
We all have our preferences.  Like @barackdhouse, I’m not sold on Harris. I don’t think Mitch will be very successful there and Harris seems like a bit of a compiler to me.

I really like Bateman, but I feel like he might be stuck on a team that will never maximize his talent.

And it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Fournette was the highest scoring player in that deal for a couple years. 

 
FFPC 1QB speak of the devil

I gave 2023 4th, 5.04
I got R Jones II
Another good move, IMO. Without too much detail, I was offered the 4.01 for RoJo yesterday in an IDP league and declined. We do not have roster spot crunches on the reg like you guys do, though. 

 
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Not going to try and explain this one but he offered and I accepted. I like late dart throws.

FFPC 1QB 

I gave DAL D/ST
I got NE D/ST, 5.04, 6.04

 
Team A gave 1.7 & 1.8

Team B gave A.J. Brown & 3.3
Brown? I don't know. Enough of a toss-up that three trade calcs all have it differently. One Brown, one picks, one even. 

I like the Brown side better here though he hasn't scored as much as his reputation would suggest. 

 
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Yeah, I definitely understand that.  As my WR 3 or 4 I prefer the bigger upside.  I think that is Jeudy.
I agree with you and I know it was just a high ankle sprain but it was a really bad one and it's no coincidence to me Juedy's best game all year was not even 3 quarters of week one before he went down.

 
FFPC 1QB speak of the devil

I gave 2023 4th, 5.04
I got R Jones II
We've had discussion on this board about FFPC leagues about how much sense it makes to just cut a player you don't have room to keep before taking such a discounted deal. This is a good example were I'd have just cut ROJO  if I was out of roster room before taking a 4-5th. Maybe that guy who trade him was not even doing it for roster room, just using this as an example.

So yes like the trade a lot on your end.

 
I'm a huge fan of Najee myself but even I'd have taken this deal.
I put Najee OTB late last night and woke up to 3 offers. One was junk one was super interesting but not something I wanted to do. Before I countered that one I countered an offer of 1.03 for Najee with the deal that is posted above. Dude accepted within a couple minutes before I could counter the other one but I doubt it would have worked out like this one did.

FWIW that 2023 1st is likely late. And the other offer was Adams and 1.04 for Najee, Stevenson, Sermon and a 2023 2nd. I don't wanna buy Adams so not sure if we would have got somewhere. But that wasn't a terrible offer either.

 
We've had discussion on this board about FFPC leagues about how much sense it makes to just cut a player you don't have room to keep before taking such a discounted deal. This is a good example were I'd have just cut ROJO  if I was out of roster room before taking a 4-5th. Maybe that guy who trade him was not even doing it for roster room, just using this as an example.

So yes like the trade a lot on your end.
I agree completely. If I can't find room and if I like him I would rather boomerang him. And or make someone pay more. No chance he would last to 5.04.

 
Team A gave 1.7 & 1.8

Team B gave A.J. Brown & 3.3
I’m on the AJB side. I don’t think there’s a receiver in 2022 draft that comes close to his ability.

That said, obviously you could potentially flip those picks for something else, so the value isn’t too far off.

I am a Brown fan though, so I’m on that side. If I had the picks to deal for AJB & that was the price I’d happily pay it. 

 
FWIW that 2023 1st is likely late.
 
doesn’t change a thing for me other than who I’d target. Guys like Tank Bigsby, Jordan Addison, Michael Mayer, Sean Tucker, & a few others should round out that 8-12 range assuming good health/consistency - I’d be thrilled with any of them there as value for what you traded. 

 
doesn’t change a thing for me other than who I’d target. Guys like Tank Bigsby, Jordan Addison, Michael Mayer, Sean Tucker, & a few others should round out that 8-12 range assuming good health/consistency - I’d be thrilled with any of them there as value for what you traded. 
Yep, the next new toy is always more desirable.  This time last year the same feelings were for Najee Harris, who performed very well (1500 total yards and 8 TDs) considering they had an awful OL and a done Big Ben.

 
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Not involved, ProvJoe, BB, SF

Rebuilding Pro gives
Pollard, Tony

Joe gives
Fuller, William
Trubisky, Mitchell
Sermon, Trey

I think it works for both sides, but would be leaning pro side here

 
Yep, the next new toy is always more desirable.  This time last year the same feelings were for Najee Harris, who performed very well (1500 total yards and 8 TDs) considering they had an awful OL and a done Big Ben.
I mean, the whole package he received is why I like it, not just the ‘23 pick. 

I don’t see Mitch Trubisky as a whole lot better than a washed Roethlisberger, but again, we all have our takes. 

 
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Yep, the next new toy is always more desirable.  This time last year the same feelings were for Najee Harris, who performed very well (1500 total yards and 8 TDs) considering they had an awful OL and a done Big Ben.
That wasn't really a motivating factor for me though. This was more about needing to gain more pieces and capital. I don't consider Najee to Fournette much of a downgrade if at all in terms of production. I am likely not competing this year but this deal gives me more of a chance IMO. The value is also handily on my side here. It isn't my hate for Najee that drove this, rather what I saw as an opportunity to profit and get better. I have other strong teams with Najee where I likely wouldn't consider moving him.

 
Not involved, ProvJoe, BB, SF

Rebuilding Pro gives
Pollard, Tony

Joe gives
Fuller, William
Trubisky, Mitchell
Sermon, Trey

I think it works for both sides, but would be leaning pro side here
Seems even. In general, in a 3:1 trade, gimme the 1 most of the time. 

I like Pollard’s tremendous upside in the (likely) chance of Elliott missing time. Pollard also has a nice weekly floor as a COP in that offense.

Pro wins this deal. But I can see a scenario where Joe makes out OK if Fuller has a good landing spot & somehow manages to stay on the field for ~14 games. And if Trubisky sucks less than I expect him to (I concede it’s possible) 

 
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That wasn't really a motivating factor for me though. This was more about needing to gain more pieces and capital. I don't consider Najee to Fournette much of a downgrade if at all in terms of production. I am likely not competing this year but this deal gives me more of a chance IMO. The value is also handily on my side here. It isn't my hate for Najee that drove this, rather what I saw as an opportunity to profit and get better. I have other strong teams with Najee where I likely wouldn't consider moving him.
I think value-wise you win this deal regardless of personal feelings about any specific player. 

Simply put, 2x 1sts + Fournette is worth more than the players you gave here. 

 
That wasn't really a motivating factor for me though. This was more about needing to gain more pieces and capital. I don't consider Najee to Fournette much of a downgrade if at all in terms of production. I am likely not competing this year but this deal gives me more of a chance IMO. The value is also handily on my side here. It isn't my hate for Najee that drove this, rather what I saw as an opportunity to profit and get better. I have other strong teams with Najee where I likely wouldn't consider moving him.
I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.

eta With the 2023 being a late 1st and downgrading from Harris to Fournette in dynasty, I see the 1.03 as risky given what Harris will give you the next several years.  It harkens back to the shiny new toy syndrome and Harris is still relatively new himself.  Teams who are constantly trading last year’s stud draft prospect for a new toy the very next year are always playing for the next new toy.

 
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I like Pollard’s tremendous upside in the (likely) chance of Elliott missing time


Elliott just played all year on a sprained ligament in his knee. He doesn't really miss time. He's taken so many hits he might be ineffective, but missing time for anything but suspension isn't really in the cards like you think with him. 

 
Elliott just played all year on a sprained ligament in his knee. He doesn't really miss time. He's taken so many hits he might be ineffective, but missing time for anything but suspension isn't really in the cards like you think with him. 
Eh. Maybe just lacking effectiveness. He hasn’t looked like himself even before the knee sprain. I was high on pollard before last year & EE being a year older doesn’t change that. 

 
I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.
 I'd agree as I think Fournette is year to year and if this was not SF I would have needed the 2023 to project mid to high.  I don't play SF but understand enough to know it increases the value of that late 2023#1 and possibly/likely the 1.3. Bateman is of little consequence to me so from someone is extremely high on Najee I'd have found this deal way to good to resist. 

 
I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.

eta With the 2023 being a late 1st and downgrading from Harris to Fournette in dynasty, I see the 1.03 as risky given what Harris will give you the next several years.  It harkens back to the shiny new toy syndrome and Harris is still relatively new himself.  Teams who are constantly trading last year’s stud draft prospect for a new toy the very next year are always playing for the next new toy.
I agree with the bolded. I am not constantly trading last years stud though. But I get your meaning.

 
FFPC SuperFlex not involved and haven't seen this guy moved in awhile in any format:

Team A gave Pitts, Fournette, 1.06
Team B gave Jefferson, ETN, Kmet

Chew on that one.

 
FFPC SuperFlex not involved and haven't seen this guy moved in awhile in any format:

Team A gave Pitts, Fournette, 1.06
Team B gave Jefferson, ETN, Kmet

Chew on that one.
I’m not an ETN truther for several reasons but I would still take the Jefferson side.  If the 1.06 was a top 2 or 3 2023 pick I would consider the other side.

 
I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.

eta With the 2023 being a late 1st and downgrading from Harris to Fournette in dynasty, I see the 1.03 as risky given what Harris will give you the next several years.  It harkens back to the shiny new toy syndrome and Harris is still relatively new himself.  Teams who are constantly trading last year’s stud draft prospect for a new toy the very next year are always playing for the next new toy.
I think I'm with you and, in a vacuum, prefer the Najee side.  Young, workhorse RBs are a rarity.   I'll keep the bird in hand.

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf
Well, you're looking at one of Wilson, London, Burks, Williams, or Walker.  Hall will go 1.01.  I still like Davis' upside and Albert O has some as well, but he's mostly meh in the deal.  I still lean to the DK side myself and hope he either gets a good QB or is dealt to a team with one, but it is a fair trade.

 
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FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf
Very close.... Curious if you would have pulled the trigger if DK had a better QB situation?

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf
Fair. I would easily trade that to get Metcalf, unless I really needed a RB and then I would consider staying put to get Walker, even if it meant bumping up one or two spots. But I also would not move Metcalf for that even if I did need a RB and Walker was OTC. Obviously I am a big Davis fan and I have been buying Albert O for cheap everywhere. I don't fault anyone for either side. 

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf


That's a toss-up. It of course was likely offered because of DK's situation, but that's really the rub with DK, isn't it? 

I'd go DK because I'm not sure that 1.04 plus Davis is really enough. Albert O. isn't enough to move the needle for me, though his value is apparently a mid-to-late second, so...

 
I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.
Not to beat this horse back to life but the bolded is only true in terms of LF vs Najee. The overall deal greatly favors me from a dynasty perspective. And IMO a redraft one as well. And I think people are still giving LF away for way too cheap out there. I think they are terrified of holding an aging back but are willing to sell too low. 

 
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Not to beat this horse back to life but the bolded is only true in terms of LF vs Najee. The overdeal greatly favors me from a dynasty perspective. And IMO a redraft one as well. And I think people are still giving LF away for way too cheap out there. I think they are terrified of holding an aging back but are willing to sell too low. 
I spoke to the deal from an overall dynasty perspective and gave my reasons why I would go the Najee side.

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf
Fair but I'd rather be one getting Metcalf.

 
Ok thanks, fair enough I wasn't sure if you meant purely Najee vs LF or whether you were including the rest. 
No.  I'll just cut and paste my post here and you will see I was speaking from the point of view of the entire deal.

"

I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.

eta With the 2023 being a late 1st and downgrading from Harris to Fournette in dynasty, I see the 1.03 as risky given what Harris will give you the next several years.  It harkens back to the shiny new toy syndrome and Harris is still relatively new himself.  Teams who are constantly trading last year’s stud draft prospect for a new toy the very next year are always playing for the next new toy."

 
No.  I'll just cut and paste my post here and you will see I was speaking from the point of view of the entire deal.

"

I consider Fournette a huge downgrade in dynasty.  If redraft then I agree.  I remember not too long ago you couldn’t trade Fournette for a pack of Skittles.

eta With the 2023 being a late 1st and downgrading from Harris to Fournette in dynasty, I see the 1.03 as risky given what Harris will give you the next several years.  It harkens back to the shiny new toy syndrome and Harris is still relatively new himself.  Teams who are constantly trading last year’s stud draft prospect for a new toy the very next year are always playing for the next new toy."
Yeah I got it. That's why I said thanks fair enough.

 
FFPC standard

This trade did not actually get finalized, but I am posting it because it was offered to me, and I was on the fence big time, just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger.  So F it, gonna post it as though it was complete.  It was 99% close enough.  Shoot me.

Give: pick 1.04, Gabriel Davis, Albert  Okweugbunam

Get: DK Metcalf
Metcalf side fairly easily for me. And I like Davis a lot (obv)

He won’t have a crappy QB forever. 

 
FFPC SuperFlex not involved and haven't seen this guy moved in awhile in any format:

Team A gave Pitts, Fournette, 1.06
Team B gave Jefferson, ETN, Kmet

Chew on that one.


Oof, I typed this whole long thing out and then changed my mind. 

Probably Pitts, though I cannot love Jefferson any more than I do. I think he's WR1 in the NFL and it's not really all that close. He's better than Chase, and in a better situation, I think. As long as Cousins is there, he's gold. Chase has Higgins, Boyd, Hurst, maybe Gronk siphoning off targets. His big play rate was massively unsustainable. And i roster Chase in my main dynasty league, so I dig the guy -- he's just not Jefferson, college coach preference notwithstanding. 

 
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Oof, I typed this whole long thing out and then changed my mind. 

Probably Pitts, though I cannot love Jefferson any more than I do and I think he's WR1 in the NFL and it's not really all that close. He's better than Chase, and in a better situation, I think. As long as Cousins is there, he's gold. Chase has Higgins, Boyd, Hurst, maybe Gronk siphoning off targets. His big play rate was massively unsustainable. And i roster Chase in my main dynasty league, so I dig the guy -- he's just not Jefferson, college coach preference notwithstanding. 
I prefer Chase over Jefferson but it is close.  I also like Burrow over Cousins obviously.  Boyd and Hurst are no threat to Chase and Higgins is good for him.  Chase was a big play monster at LSU and it has continued in the NFL and will continue to do so.

 

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