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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (39 Viewers)

Not involved, FFPC deals(one I posted in dynasty value discussion)

1.2 and 2023 third round pick

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2023 #1 that's really hard to peg were it could land. I know that's key to know but the team has some good young pieces and lot of draft capital so hard to peg. Not one of two best teams on paper, who knows after that.

1.3 and 2.1

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1.6 and 1.7

 
menobrown said:
Not involved, FFPC deals(one I posted in dynasty value discussion)

1.2 and 2023 third round pick

for

2023 #1 that's really hard to peg were it could land. I know that's key to know but the team has some good young pieces and lot of draft capital so hard to peg. Not one of two best teams on paper, who knows after that.
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I’ll take the ‘23 1st. Draft capital usually means improved but growing pains. I’m not as high on Walker / Seattle as some. 

 
menobrown said:
Not involved, FFPC deals(one I posted in dynasty value discussion)

1.2 and 2023 third round pick

for

2023 #1 that's really hard to peg were it could land. I know that's key to know but the team has some good young pieces and lot of draft capital so hard to peg. Not one of two best teams on paper, who knows after that.
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Pick 2 this year and more for a random future 1st??? Ugly

 
This one hurt.  First, he's my favorite player and I swore I'd never trade him away.  Second, I'm a contender and could have use used him this year.  I'm going to have to rely pretty heavily on Javonte now.

PPR - 1 QB

Derrick Henry for 2023 1st (probably mid but could go anywhere)

 
Blick said:
This one hurt.  First, he's my favorite player and I swore I'd never trade him away.  Second, I'm a contender and could have use used him this year.  I'm going to have to rely pretty heavily on Javonte now.

PPR - 1 QB

Derrick Henry for 2023 1st (probably mid but could go anywhere)
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He’s my favorite players as well but you have to get that 2023 1st for him while you still can. 

 
JoeJoe88 said:
He’s my favorite players as well but you have to get that 2023 1st for him while you still can. 
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Yup probably last chance at a 1st. Tough cause not rebuilding though as he could have been the difference, but I understand cashing out while the opportunity still exists. 

 
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

TEAM A gave up

  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.07; 
  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.11
TEAM B gave up

  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.03;
  • Year 2023 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
 
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Dr. Octopus said:
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

TEAM A gave up

  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.07; 
  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.11
TEAM B gave up

  • Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.03;
  • Year 2023 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
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Now that's interesting, think I'd take the 1.07/1.11 cause I have several WRs lumped closely.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
So I was perusing rosters in my SF league and noticed a team with 1 viable QB (Mac Jones) 3 good RB, 2 good WR, 0 top 15 TE, and no 2022 1st round pick.

I wanted their ‘23 1st, so found the team that held it.

i gave: ‘23 1st (10-12, LCG loser), ‘24 1st (TBD, but should be mid-round)

I got: ‘23 1st, likely top 4

It’s now extremely likely I have the top 5 picks in 2023, + 7 or 8, and 2.01

I didn’t really want to borrow from 2024 to do it, but I figure I’ll be a better team after 2023. 

This one might have been a little greedy, but I can live with it. 
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This does seem a little greedy with all of the picks you already owned.  However, you are way committed to that draft so hard to fault you for pushing your chips in even more at this point.  Makes sure you hit the studs in that draft.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
But that’s incorrect. I didn’t have the top 4 picks anyway. 

That was the gain.

This team was an usurper to that plan. They would have snuck in at 1, 2, or 3, foiling my ability to have the top 4 picks. 

And your math is wonky. Moving from 1.11-1.12 to 1.02-1.03 = 5-6? 

I’ll likely move up 8-10 picks. I paid a ‘24 1st to do it. It wasn’t a bargain but I don’t think I got robbed as you suggest. 
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You definitely didn't get robbed but didn't get a smokin deal either.  It could depend on how good your team is next year.  If that 24 pick ends up high then this deal may not look great but it accomplished other goals for you and that means something in a trade.

 
Jonesin For Some Football said:
This does seem a little greedy with all of the picks you already owned.  However, you are way committed to that draft so hard to fault you for pushing your chips in even more at this point.  Makes sure you hit the studs in that draft.
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What I don't like most is the ability for it to backfire to the point where you gave away a future first to move up a spot or two in a good draft - and of course there's always the possibility that he paid to move back a few slots.

If that 2024 first is his, it could be a very high first as well since his team will be relying on a lot of rookies in 2023.

 
In one league where I am semi competitive and have two 2023 1sts, I think I would be pretty happy to move both picks for Derrick Henry and Kamara

 
ghostguy123 said:
In one league where I am semi competitive and have two 2023 1sts, I think I would be pretty happy to move both picks for Derrick Henry and Kamara
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That’s certainly fair. All I’d say though is you better win the championship this year, or I’d imagine you’d be regretting that big time around this time next year. 

 
Talking current vs future pick value in a few threads, so I’ll just post that I just Rejected this offer in FFPC

his 2023 1st for my 1.8 

he’s looking like a top 3-4 team for sure, so the odds of getting better than the 8th overall next year seem thin. And, as I’ve also said in a couple of threads, the player I get at 8 this year might very well be my 3rd or 4th ranked WR since everyone has them ranked so differently. 

 
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joey said:
Talking current vs future pick value in a few threads, so I’ll just post that I just Rejected this offer in FFPC

his 2023 1st for my 1.8 

he’s looking like a top 3-4 team for sure, so the odds of getting better than the 8th overall next year seem thin. And, as I’ve also said in a couple of threads, the player I get at 8 this year might very well be my 3rd or 4th ranked WR since everyone has them ranked so differently. 
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Love it. 

 
Kevrunner said:
This happened today in my 10 Team 1QB PPR League:

Team A gives - AJBrown and Kareem Hunt

Team B gives - Mike Evans and 2023 1st and 2nd rounders

Team B finished in 7th place last year, and if he at least makes the playoffs this year, I like his side, I thought it was a pretty even trade.  Team B usually gets the short end of most of his trades.
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I'm not sure I trust Hurts in Philly so I'd go with the Evans 1st/2nd side much better for the next 1-2 years.  After that it could change if AJB gets a good QB to throw him the ball.  I like Team B personally though.

 
mzkp54 said:
Gibson/Fournette for Montgomery/1.07 (Williams)
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This is an interesting trade.  I like Monty better than the other 2 personally but Gibson/Fournette should have good years.  You guys already drafted and you got Jameson Williams with that pick?  I agree with Hot Sauce.  Think I'd make this trade and then start shopping Gibson/Fournette for what I could get but it is close.  I just think Gibson's value is inflated.

 
foxco said:
Yup probably last chance at a 1st. Tough cause not rebuilding though as he could have been the difference, but I understand cashing out while the opportunity still exists. 
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I get the idea, but DH is a difference maker and potentially a league winner.  I'm not sure I can say the same about Javonte THIS YEAR.  I think I'd stick with DH for another year, put myself into a position to win a 'ship, and then figure out what to do in 2023 even if that means letting him retire on my roster.

 
Blick said:
This one hurt.  First, he's my favorite player and I swore I'd never trade him away.  Second, I'm a contender and could have use used him this year.  I'm going to have to rely pretty heavily on Javonte now.

PPR - 1 QB

Derrick Henry for 2023 1st (probably mid but could go anywhere)
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If I was anywhere near competing there is no way I make this deal.  I don't think 1 1st for him while he is still the best RB in the league is enough unless you don't think you can win.  This feels way light unless it is a top 2 pick but no way to know that yet.

 
12 team PPR 1QB, not involved

Michael Gallup

for

2.02

Guy getting the 2.02 is deep at WR but has nothing of note at RB, would assume he's trying to either use the pick to trade up or thinks one of the secondary RBs will be available like Pierce/Robinson etc. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
What I don't like most is the ability for it to backfire to the point where you gave away a future first to move up a spot or two in a good draft - and of course there's always the possibility that he paid to move back a few slots.
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I assure you there is zero chance of the pick I acquired being higher than 5.

and there is very very little chance of the pick a traded being lower than 9.

at worst I moved up  5 spots. At best I moved up 9 spots. 

Dr. Octopus said:
If that 2024 first is his, it could be a very high first as well since his team will be relying on a lot of rookies in 2023.
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to me, this is the biggest risk. And taking players that bust. But I do have 6 “foundational” players in a start 10 format (2QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 4 FL) so my floor after I add 7 picks in the 1st 13, in theory, is a bit higher. It could be 1.05-1.07. I concede it could be 1.03-1.05 too, in which case it was an overpay.

It’s all roster eval/best guess. Nothing is guaranteed. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
I assure you there is zero chance of the pick I acquired being higher than 5.

and there is very very little chance of the pick a traded being lower than 9.

at worst I moved up  5 spots. At best I moved up 9 spots. 

to me, this is the biggest risk. And taking players that bust. But I do have 6 “foundational” players in a start 10 format (2QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 4 FL) so my floor after I add 7 picks in the 1st 13, in theory, is a bit higher. It could be 1.05-1.07. I concede it could be 1.03-1.05 too, in which case it was an overpay.

It’s all roster eval/best guess. Nothing is guaranteed. 
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I’m just saying sometimes things happen. One of the worst teams “on paper” won one of my leagues last season - it was shocking as there’s some stacked teams in that league. I’ve also seen stacked teams finish is the bottom 3 due to bad luck (injuries, the schedule, etc.). It’s happens and could happen here but if you’re comfortable with it that’s all that matters.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I’m just saying sometimes things happen. One of the worst teams “on paper” won one of my leagues last season - it was shocking as there’s some stacked teams in that league. I’ve also seen stacked teams finish is the bottom 3 due to bad luck (injuries, the schedule, etc.). It’s happens and could happen here but if you’re comfortable with it that’s all that matters.
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No doubt. It’s a calculated risk. And I might lose.

Considering we have 5 stacked teams, 2 decent teams, and 5 bottom dwellers, I’d give the odds if this team winning an LCG (or even making the playoffs) at about 1000:1.

I dunno if I’m comfortable with it, but I made a gamble, so I have to live with it. Hopefully I get lucky with my dice roll 

 
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
I assure you there is zero chance of the pick I acquired being higher than 5.

and there is very very little chance of the pick a traded being lower than 9.

at worst I moved up  5 spots. At best I moved up 9 spots. 

to me, this is the biggest risk. And taking players that bust. But I do have 6 “foundational” players in a start 10 format (2QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 4 FL) so my floor after I add 7 picks in the 1st 13, in theory, is a bit higher. It could be 1.05-1.07. I concede it could be 1.03-1.05 too, in which case it was an overpay.

It’s all roster eval/best guess. Nothing is guaranteed. 
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Just another thought say the team that is a “lock” for at worst pick 9, loses their first three games and then decides to rebuild and starts selling off players? I just think that trade was very risky for the potential payoff. It’s an interesting deal though which is why I’m spending the time discussing it.

 
foxco said:
12 team PPR 1QB, not involved

Michael Gallup

for

2.02

Guy getting the 2.02 is deep at WR but has nothing of note at RB, would assume he's trying to either use the pick to trade up or thinks one of the secondary RBs will be available like Pierce/Robinson etc. 
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I like this pickup for you.  Gallup will get increased targets this year and if he can stay healthy, he'll almost assuredly be better than what you could get at 2.02.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Just another thought say the team that is a “lock” for at worst pick 9, loses their first three games and then decides to rebuild and starts selling off players? I just think that trade was very risky for the potential payoff. It’s an interesting deal though which is why I’m spending the time discussing it.
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I get that from outside the league there’s are a million angles to consider.

but from within the league, one gets to know owners over the years and their tendencies. That team is extremely unlikely to do a rebuild this year, regardless of whether they lose 3 or 5 in a row. They’re deep and young at every position, and they made sharp deals the last couple years, giving them picks 1 & 2 this season. So out of the gate they’re getting Hall/Walker (or their choice of WR).

IMO they’re a lock for the playoffs, and  likely to make the LCG again.

But sure - they could lose 3 QBs to injury, 5 RB & 5 WR could all go down and I’d have given away the 1.03. It is a greater than zero possibility. 

 
I gave 1.12, 2.01, 2.05, Golladay for 1.01 (Hall).

I was league champ last year and still have a very strong team.

 
kutta said:
I gave 1.12, 2.01, 2.05, Golladay for 1.01 (Hall).

I was league champ last year and still have a very strong team.
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Think you'll ever advance into an adults league?  Just kidding.

Brutal trade - ridiculously low for the 1.01.  I'm not even high on any of those picks - that guy should have been able to parlay the 1.01 into 1.12 and something in the first or early second next year. 

 
I’m currently trying to shop the 1.01 in my superFlex. Got a great squad apart from QB, so this is a terrible year to have ‘lucked’ into the 1.01

Keeping a close eye on this thread and will report back if I do a deal. I’ve had one initial offer that was terrible 

1.01 for 1.02 and 2.11. Even aside from it being bad, there’s such a tier break to me after Hall and no QB worth 1.02 so it’s even more useless 

 
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