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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (20 Viewers)

Gally said:
But what did Team A really get?   Hockenson?  Is he going to be that much better in fantasy than Irv?  I don't think so.  

Also, is a 60-40 split really a terrible thing?  And that is probably worst case scenario and it could just as well be 70-30.   Any injury to either then swings this into a big win in season as well.  I just think the different outcomes really favor the Team B side.  
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Irv Smith posted 30/365/5 in 2020.  Didn't play in 2021.

Hock posted 61/583/4 in 11 games in 2021. 2020 he had 67/723/6.

There is a significant step up from Irv to Hock, especially if this is a TE premium league.

 
InDitkaWeTrust said:
Irv Smith posted 30/365/5 in 2020.  Didn't play in 2021.

Hock posted 61/583/4 in 11 games in 2021. 2020 he had 67/723/6.

There is a significant step up from Irv to Hock, especially if this is a TE premium league.
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Rudolph was still there in 2020 and rookie TEs often struggle. Smith would have started last season if he wasn't injured and look what a lesser talent like Conklin did in his place.

Hockenson is surely the better fantasy asset in 2022 (and probably beyond) but what Gally is saying is the gap may not be so big going forward - the past doesn't get us points, and while it can be a predictive tool, there also needs to be context.

 
InDitkaWeTrust said:
Irv Smith posted 30/365/5 in 2020.  Didn't play in 2021.

Hock posted 61/583/4 in 11 games in 2021. 2020 he had 67/723/6.

There is a significant step up from Irv to Hock, especially if this is a TE premium league.
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I am not sure that it is a significant step moving forward.  I think Hock will be better but not significantly better TE5 vs TE8?  I also think there is a world where Irv gets TD luck and outscores Hock.  

While overall I think Hock is better and should finish as the higher TE I don't think the difference is big enough to swing this trade to that direction.  

 
FFPC TriFlex (superflex, 3 required starting WRs, 3 flex spots (1 can be a second QB))

We just completed the startup draft before the NFL draft, so there are no 2022 rookie picks.

Gave: DJ Moore (drafted at the startup 4.04 as the WR14, for what it's worth)

Got: 2023 R1, 2023 R2, 2023 R6

 
InDitkaWeTrust said:
Going full Hot Sauce Guy rebuild mode on an orphan I picked up recently.  SF league where my only starting QB was Wentz. 

Gave AJ Brown, Rondale Moore, 1.05

Got Fields 23 1st 23 3rd (both likely high)
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Feels a little light for AJB. Not terribly, but I’m with @Dr. Octopus that AJB alone should have commanded that.

If it was “full HSG”, you woulda got multiple 1sts. :)  

(never go full HSG. Has Tropic Thunder taught you nothing?)

 
Dr. Octopus said:
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

Team A gave up 

  • Carter, Michael NYJ RB; 
  • Smith Jr., Irv MIN TE
Team B gave up 

  • Howard, Jordan PHI RB; 
  • Pringle, Byron CHI WR; 
  • Hockenson, T.J. DET TE;
  • 2022 Draft Pick 3.05
Team B has the 1.01 and will likely be drafting Breece Hall
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Team B gets Hock. That’s my takeaway here. 

 
phandango said:
FFPC TriFlex (superflex, 3 required starting WRs, 3 flex spots (1 can be a second QB))

We just completed the startup draft before the NFL draft, so there are no 2022 rookie picks.

Gave: DJ Moore (drafted at the startup 4.04 as the WR14, for what it's worth)

Got: 2023 R1, 2023 R2, 2023 R6
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I’d sell Moore for that. 

I would not pay that for Moore so long as his QB is one of the ones currently on the roster.

You win. 

 
I disagree.  Kind of

What Moore has done with absolute garbage QBs is pretty impressive.  I mean Carolina has to get an even top half of the league type QB at some point.  Don't they?

Edit to add:  In response to HSG

 
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ghostguy123 said:
FFPC standard

Pick 1.05 and a 2023 1st (playoff team last year)

For

Picks 1.02, 1.11, and 1.12
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knowing that the 2023 1st will likely be late, I’d prefer the 1.2 side

 
Looks about fair to me. I'd go the 1.05 and 23 1st side.

Difference between 1.05 and 1.02 isn't especially large. Probably covered by the 1.11. 

Then it's basically 1.12 for the 23 1st straight up. I don't see anything I'd want to draft at 1.12 so I'd take my chances next year, plus you never know, might end up a higher pick than projected. Certainly won't be any later.

 
Wigglytuff's Gruff said:
Looks about fair to me. I'd go the 1.05 and 23 1st side.

Difference between 1.05 and 1.02 isn't especially large. Probably covered by the 1.11. 

Then it's basically 1.12 for the 23 1st straight up. I don't see anything I'd want to draft at 1.12 so I'd take my chances next year, plus you never know, might end up a higher pick than projected. Certainly won't be any later.
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Look at it again. The future 1st bought both picks 11 and 12 PLUS a bump up from 5 to 2

 
JamboTaylor said:
I don’t know how his value goes anywhere but down. He’s now the #2/3 option in a run heavy offense
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I don't think Philly is Baltimore or Tennessee where running is their identity.  IIRC, they started out throwing it a lot last year and it wasn't going so well.  They realized they were having better success running the ball, so the offense shifted that way.  

I question if this is one of those situations where they don't put up better passing numbers because they don't have the pass catchers.  Now you bring in AJ Brown, Smith going into his 2nd year, Goedert's a solid tight end.  Suddenly you go from a ho hum group to a really good group.  And just logically speaking, a team that has continued to invest 1st round draft capital into the WR position each of the last 3 drafts (Raegor, Smith, now Brown), that seems like a team that really wants to throw the ball. 

 
Got offered this in FFPC Superflex bestball 

Fields; Lawrence

for

Hurts; 2.10 and 2023 2nd

I have a boner for Hurts but feel like I should take this.  Would also have Tannehill and Trubisky.  
 

thoughts?

 
Magnum83 said:
Got offered this in FFPC Superflex bestball 

Fields; Lawrence

for

Hurts; 2.10 and 2023 2nd

I have a boner for Hurts but feel like I should take this.  Would also have Tannehill and Trubisky.  
 

thoughts?
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I don't play Best Ball or Dynasty in SF (only redraft) but this feels like a trade I'd take for sure.  Also, if it is Dynasty, Philly hasn't fully committed to Hurts where I feel Chicago/Jax are fully committed to Fields/T-Law.  Might get some more experienced advice from others but this is a trade I think I'd jump on for Hurts and 2 2nds that look to be late.

 
Magnum83 said:
Got offered this in FFPC Superflex bestball 

Fields; Lawrence

for

Hurts; 2.10 and 2023 2nd

I have a boner for Hurts but feel like I should take this.  Would also have Tannehill and Trubisky.  
 

thoughts?
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I accept would accept that offer very quickly

 
Got the trade done I was talking about earlier 

12 team SuperFlex where I’m very strong at RB/WR but in big trouble at QB. 

I moved ‘22 1.01 for ‘22 1.05 and a ‘23 1st that originally comes from a third owner who’s roster is absolutely trash.

Even accounting for extreme luck on this persons part this ‘23 pick will be 1.04 at the very worst I’d imagine. It has a high high chance of being 1.01 

Pretty pumped tbh 

 
TartanLion said:
Got the trade done I was talking about earlier 

12 team SuperFlex where I’m very strong at RB/WR but in big trouble at QB. 

I moved ‘22 1.01 for ‘22 1.05 and a ‘23 1st that originally comes from a third owner who’s roster is absolutely trash.

Even accounting for extreme luck on this persons part this ‘23 pick will be 1.04 at the very worst I’d imagine. It has a high high chance of being 1.01 

Pretty pumped tbh 
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As you should be.

 
TartanLion said:
Got the trade done I was talking about earlier 

12 team SuperFlex where I’m very strong at RB/WR but in big trouble at QB. 

I moved ‘22 1.01 for ‘22 1.05 and a ‘23 1st that originally comes from a third owner who’s roster is absolutely trash.

Even accounting for extreme luck on this persons part this ‘23 pick will be 1.04 at the very worst I’d imagine. It has a high high chance of being 1.01 

Pretty pumped tbh 
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Love the trade but how does it address your weakness at QB?  Longevity at RB is especially fleeting.  If I had a strong RB room, I'd be doing everything in my power to load up at QB and contend now.  '23 is a full 17 games away.  If you get a great rookie QB in 2023, how long will it be before that QB is up to speed and producing at a high level?  2-3 years?  By then your RBs have 3-4 years of wear and tear and that room probably doesn't look so good anymore.

 
Magnum83 said:
Got offered this in FFPC Superflex bestball 

Fields; Lawrence

for

Hurts; 2.10 and 2023 2nd

I have a boner for Hurts but feel like I should take this.  Would also have Tannehill and Trubisky.  
 

thoughts?
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If you get Fields/Lawrence, you should have accepted already. 

 
InDitkaWeTrust said:
Love the trade but how does it address your weakness at QB?  Longevity at RB is especially fleeting.  If I had a strong RB room, I'd be doing everything in my power to load up at QB and contend now.  '23 is a full 17 games away.  If you get a great rookie QB in 2023, how long will it be before that QB is up to speed and producing at a high level?  2-3 years?  By then your RBs have 3-4 years of wear and tear and that room probably doesn't look so good anymore.
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it’s a very salient question. I’ve got Kamara/Dobbins/Akers/Etienne/Penny/Mack/L Murray and some other bodies at RB. Deebo/Thielen/Pittman/G Davis/A  Robinson/Lazard and a host of other fliers at WR. Lance and Trubisky at QB. Start 2 RB, 3 WR and multiple flex with a possible 2nd QB. Take a WR at 1.05 this year, take a very strong  young QB with 1.01 to 1.04 next year which MIGHT not need  use my own ‘23 1st that can be used on another RB/WR and I feel like I’m pretty well set up. 
 

Just need .. 

Lance to hit 

young RBs to bounce back from injury 

‘23 top QB to work out 

and I think that’s good. 
 

Def seems better to me than taking Hall and a back end ‘23 1st because QBs are gold dust in this league that can’t be solved by the 1.01 this year. 

 
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Accidentally stumbled on page one. Just a reminder that what may look good today may turn rotten tomorrow. Not ragging on anyone, we all have trades that don’t work out. As a Lions fan though this one stuck out….  

On 1/5/2016 at 10:08 AM, xxxxxx said: 

   On 1/5/2016 at 10:07 AM, xxxxx said: 

12 team QRWWWTFF

Calvin Johnson and 2.08

For

Matt Jones and 1.05

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I'll take Jones and the 1.05

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X2

 
King of the Jungle said:
Accidentally stumbled on page one. Just a reminder that what may look good today may turn rotten tomorrow. Not ragging on anyone, we all have trades that don’t work out. As a Lions fan though this one stuck out….  

On 1/5/2016 at 10:08 AM, xxxxxx said: 

   On 1/5/2016 at 10:07 AM, xxxxx said: 

12 team QRWWWTFF

Calvin Johnson and 2.08

Matt Jones and 1.05

——————————

I'll take Jones and the 1.05

—————————

X2
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That post was made in 2016, after Calvin had played his final game, proving that no matter what Lions fans think, it's somehow always worse

 
King of the Jungle said:
Accidentally stumbled on page one. Just a reminder that what may look good today may turn rotten tomorrow. Not ragging on anyone, we all have trades that don’t work out. As a Lions fan though this one stuck out….  

On 1/5/2016 at 10:08 AM, xxxxxx said: 

   On 1/5/2016 at 10:07 AM, xxxxx said: 

12 team QRWWWTFF

Calvin Johnson and 2.08

For

Matt Jones and 1.05

——————————

I'll take Jones and the 1.05

—————————

X2
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1.05 in my leagues in 2016 was Derrick Henry!

 
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