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Wow....Cook at 3. My league is crazy RGB heavy and I could see him going 6-7 maybe in our draft in 2 weeks but 3 is just craziness. I do think that is still low for Williams but I get being scared of him as well.
I’m with you and grabbed KJO in my Win Now FFPC league at 6.9 since I already have Theilen as my WR3 and hoping that that’s part this year insurance and part of a transition plan to some youth at WR. Fingers crossed you’re right.
He certainly looks like an NFL WR out there. He’s a little banged up right now, but Patrick Peterson is certainly high on him:
I'm in a dynasty startup slow draft and looked into him based on seeing this. Looked interesting for a late-round pick so I made a note, and then saw him go off the board within an hour (at 14.11)
I only play in 1QB but I like the idea. Would help to know who you had before the trade(s) though to gauge...if this is upgrading from Dak to Herbert then I'd probably rather have that first but if your only QB was Brady or Cousins or something then I love the move.
Honestly not sure why team Herbert had to send a 2nd your way. He’s worth a 1st in single QB all day.
Agreed. I was going to say similar. Herbert is a set and forget Top6 dynasty QB for the next 5+ years. Especially worth a late first in 1QB **if** he’s the last piece you need to give you studs at all positions to Win Now.
I am one that doesn't value QBs really high in 1QB leagues but dropping 1 round to get Herbert or Allen I would do depending on my existing QB situation. There is still something to be said for winning that position every week.
This particular team still needs the RB position addressed but I still have a 23 1st and two 2nds to hopefully help me do it
I'll take 2 and 14Hot Sauce Guy said:
Never mind. Horrible trade.BigAl21 said:
if I need a good young RB (who doesn’t) I stay at 1.2 to grab Walker and then take Best WR Available at 2.2. It could be any WR you have ranked from 7 to 12 with the way drafts as going this year.lardonastick said:
Non-PPR this is a slam dunk for the 1.02 & 2.02 IMO. Not a ton of difference between the 5, 7 or 14 in non-ppr this year, IMO. In my non-ppr league that would have been Garret Wilson, James Cook (or Olave or Watson or Moore), and one of Spiller or Jahan Dotson, or Brian Robinson at 14.lardonastick said:
Due to no RBs available after 1.02, I'd lean that way. If you didn't mind taking 2 WRs that are basically in the same group and don't need RB help then 5 and 7 could be a good value. I'd go 2 and 14 personally though as RBs are hard to come by.lardonastick said:
I don't normally respond to trades in formats I'm not familiar with playing, such as SF, IDP.
I'm just not sold on Walker. That's why I prefer 5 & 7, if I had to choose. if I'm targeting WRs, 5 & 7 this year makes sense, hoping at least one of them hits. I see a difference between 1.05/1.07 and 2.02.
I like the Pitts side in TE premium. I just missed that one. Looks like there's a lot to consider in that format besides TE-P though. But knee-jerk, gimme the elite top 3 TE of the future.
lardonastick said:
I'm with Meno. Don't play IDP at all and only SF in redraft leagues so don't usually throw my opinion out there. What was the trade though?
You are totally right there is a big difference at the WR available at 5/7 and 14. I do believe in Walker and think the coach's philosophy in Seattle will do enough to get him carries and numbers. They are going to want to run and he will get his chance. Especially since Penny can't stay healthy and I'm not sure Carson plays again with that neck injury.
I'd go with the Pitts side when you consider you already have Herbert/Burrow and needed the roster space too. Your TEs were terrible also so seems like a good trade. QBs rarely get hurt but if one goes down this could haunt you so I'd be looking for another move that got you a backup just in case but I'd go Pitts here pretty easily.
lardonastick said:
Given the league parameters, I'd take the Pitts side as well. I'll take a dynasty top 3 TE for the next 5-7 years over a good, not great QB that will be around for about the same amount of time.
There were a couple of other pieces that pretty much even out but the main exchange was Dak for Pitts. Usually QBs are king in that superflex format but there is also a TE premium where TEs get 2 PPR where everyone else gets 1 PPR. So that what makes it a little more interesting.
LOL - London.
Ok. I was a little confused. I just don't think London falls to 5. I have been seeing him pretty consistent at 3. Probably forced to take one of Wilson/Burks/Williams and then at 7 take Moore/Watson if I was guessing. I believe in Walker enough and Standard is just a different animal. I feel you have to take the shot there if you can. To be fair, I'm not high at all at whoever you would take at 14.
Give me DJ here all day. MT will never be what we thought he was, I think Stevenson is going to take a ton of carries from Harris this year & they drafted yet another RB, Shenault is a bust (partially cause they don't use him right), Callaway is nothing with MT/Olave/Landry there, and Swain really isn't anything either.
Thank You for the write up. I'm the side getting DJ. I think this was the last possible moment I'd be able to get good value for a 29 year old Michael Thomas. Using his name to get younger. While I'm not the biggest fan of DJ and Brown, I should be able to use them and possibly get better as well.
I don't disagree with anything you said. London is who I feel best about. I just have a gut feeling on Burks but not being in shape and his combine has scared me some. Williams and Wilson do scare me due to the teams they are on. Moore would be my pick at 7 for sure too. I agree with you on Spiller and figured he would be a much higher pick but didn't get the draft capital I expected. I agree that in .5 PPR like my league is, London is very much in consideration at 2.
Very true. I do like DJ a lot but that offense scares me this year. He was a top 10 WR last year with Big Ben a shell of himself so he has the talent. Problem is that Pitts doesn't really pay their WRs well so he could be gone after this year when he becomes a free agent. Either way, I think this was a good move and if you move Hollywood during his break out with no D-Hop there, you could maximize that value too.
Yeah, dealing Barkley now is likely a sell low but that is really low. I'd also stash him and either wait for a spike to trade him for more or ride him out
light return on a top 5 QB & a WR who’s value should take a jump. Brady side easily.
good return on 1.11
i don’t mind dealing Evans, but that’s not great return. Ridley could be a blank. Shocked you couldn’t get a ‘23 1st & more for Evans.
